[000:00:00;00] in a few moments good evening we are from ukraine glory to ukraine this is a verdict program my name is serhiy rudenko i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health today in the program there has not been such a powerful attack since the spring russian terrorists bombarded the kyiv region with missiles and drones what were the consequences of a successful hunt ukrainian drones minus in the russian city of pskov, four il-76s and not only them separated and moved through the fields. the procession of the moscow patriarchate to the pochaiv lavra . why did the authorities not succeed in stopping them? ukrainian

agents in russia, is it possible to defeat the country terrorist, undermining its stability from the middle of this night. the main directorate of the ministry of defense of ukraine hit the airfield of the russian occupiers in pskov . let's see how it all happened

. let's take a closer look there. explosions. say dronov at the end of the well-known gossip in the quarter of the er people's deputy about how the gur of the ministry of defense burned down four il-76 planes in obsko and damaged two more about the counteroffensive of the armed forces

of ukraine in zaporizhzhia and the fire on russia, we will talk about all this during the next hour. today i will have three military guests as my guests: a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine volodymyr malyan, a major of the national guard of ukraine in the reserve oleksiy hetman and general of the security service of ukraine viktor yagun however , before starting our conversation for those who is watching us live now on youtube, i invite you to take part in our survey today we ask you about whether the transfer of hostilities to the territory will force russia to leave ukraine of the russian federation, yes, no, and your option, please write in the comments. well, i invite the first guest to the conversation , the editor tells me. so far , volodymyr omelyan is not in touch, let's start with a night attack on ukraine. on the night of august 30, the armed forces of the russian federation attacked ukraine with cruise missiles and drones

kamikaze shekhet in the direction of ukrainian cities, the russians fired 28 missiles and 16 drones of the air defense forces destroyed 43 of 44 enemy air targets, how they attacked the ukrainian capital this night , let's see , the belly wave broke all the windows and doors

they went to the entrance, they moved, they were scared, then the second explosion. literally after a couple of seconds, 20-30 seconds passed. half a minute did not pass again. there was a breakdown. the dishes were beaten by pigs . people don’t do that right away. there is no one. there is no one. and we already have a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine volodymyr romelyan p volodymyr, i congratulate you for the sake of seeing you on our air. greetings serhii good evening mr.

volodymyr, we started our conversation with the fact that this night there was one of the largest mass strikes in the last few months on the ukrainian capital, uh, 44 aerial targets were in total in the airspace of ukraine , the russian occupiers directed most of the missiles and drones at the ukrainian capital . already at the end of the summer, they are trying to force zelenskyi to start at least some negotiations with moscow or what else it can be connected with. well, you know, i wouldn't weave such an obvious logic into it . it still seems to me that the russians are more reminiscent of

its existence, what, what, the capacity, yes, the strike was massive, but if we compare it with the shelling of last year, it is obviously much less powerful, and we see that none of the rockets achieved their goals, especially the more jackals. kyiv is well protected, i wish that the whole of ukraine was just as well protected and we defeated the enemy on his territory, we have some progress with the ukrainian neptunes, which are now being modified and are successfully destroying the enemy army , but more is needed and in mass production it is absolutely obvious what is happening now in ukraine and continues. during the last one and a half years, it shows that russia was and remains a terrorist country, what do you think prevents against the background of such massive shelling, including kyiv, and the same united state of america, after all, recognizing russia as a country that sponsors terrorism well, this is an established legal concept, although

we all understand that russia is a terrorist country that brings death to other people on planet earth. well , you know. i think that the usa has a global plan to which they adhere, and it is good that in we have partners who are capable of becoming strategic, because we have recently leaned into the fact that we only think tactically about strategy , we do not have enough time, uh, this status is not easy, because then what to do with china, which is the main trading partner of uh, russia, where what should russia do in general with the configuration of the global rooster that china is now trying to knock out around itself, including everything that we include in it, er, our private army of the russian empire, so there are quite a lot of questions here. i think these considerations actually

stop the americans from granting this status for the russian federation, because then it caused too many more global problems, this is not russia's problem, that is, if it was only about russia, it would have received this status. well , against the background of what happened today, this night in ukraine, the gur confirmed the destruction of four planes. -76 and two were damaged in pskov, at the airfield where the 76th guards airborne assault division is based, and i will remind you that in the spring of 2022, the fighters were in buch and the moscow media added that during this harvest, the military unit 64,044 was also on fire. two special forces brigades are located next to the airfield

, according to your opinion , will the transfer of hostilities to the territory of the russian federation force russia to leave ukraine? urban russians of ukraine are partially switching over the russian territory . they should still believe their king. they are still ready to put their own lives at risk for the sake of robbery and occupation, but this is a brilliant operation of the armed forces of ukraine at a distance of 700 km from the ukrainian border, this shows that we are making significant progress in strike type unmanned aircraft. i am happy and proud that this is already happening, that it is, let's say, moving from a series of exotics or something exclusive to the format

of everyday life, that we can hit objects as far as the urals, and i believe that we will cross the urals, i will also remind our tv viewers that this night the armed forces of ukraine immediately attacked the regions of the russian federation, that is, it is not only about the attack on the airfield in e-e pskov. at the beginning of the great war, they were circling over ukraine, they just wanted to go to the gostomel airport and the airfield, but they were not allowed at the airport. again, the armed forces of ukraine seven regions of russia were attacked this night , this is the pskov region, bryansk, oryol , moscow, ryazan, and kaluska, also occupied sevastopol, and the media call it now this attack on the russian federation is the first of a full-scale war

. well, mr. volodymyr, we talk quite often in the article about what about the russians . will they somehow change their position? will they to think differently if drone missiles will fall on their heads and if hostilities will unfold on their territory, and every time we are faced with a rather simple opinion that russia is great, what is happening there in the central part of the russian federation is happening in the central part of the state it is not always clear to those who live in the far east , in siberia, in the south of russia, under the conditions of how the ideology and propaganda of vladimir putin is built according to yours, how long they will manage to hide from other regions that

what is actually happening and the fact that russia, instead of reaching kyiv in 3-4 days, is now forced to take care of its air defense after a year and a half , is forced to react even to the fact that ukrainian drones fly 700 km from ukraine to pskov, that is, how this will affect the atmosphere of the hm e-e regime on the support of putin's regime in the russian federation. well, you know, i am a supporter of the opinion that the change of opinion in the russian head and s- occurs only after the separation of this head from the body and we see it on the battlefield e- they are unchanging in their beliefs the only thing that can affect them is not even the burning kremlin there or some rich portals of moscow, er, the disaster of the red army, the great

defeat of the russian army, it will definitely have an impact on the internal agenda of the russian federation, these feats are not extremely important , because apart from the fact that they are an act of revenge they achieve the goal, you are really right to remark about vet in russia, there is simply not enough strength and means to buy all the objects that have weight for them, and we choose the objects accordingly, and uh, this is a very big step forward, indigenous or from the past year when we were just biting our elbows and watching them deploy their divisions on the ukrainian border moments before the attack if i had had these weapons then i think it would have been possible the attack if there had been it would have been much smaller and much less effective over the last few weeks sir volodymyr, in the world press quite often they compare or, well, they assume the comparison

of the resources of ukraine and russia, and literally, these days , orban viktor orban, the premier city of hungary , said that the victory of ukraine over russia is impossible due to the difference in mobilization of the reserve in the united states of america, the idea that ukraine will win the entire war is not like the truth, said the american anchor and framerson during an interview with the prime minister of hungary, to which orbán said this is a lie this is not just a misunderstanding this is a lie this is impossible , everyone who is involved in politics understands the logic of the numbers, the data knows that it is impossible, this is a tragedy for ukraine, they will run out of soldiers earlier than in russia, will it matter as a result ? so, these are boots on the ground, and the russians are much stronger in terms of numbers, if n- volodymyr, did you have the opportunity to tell orbán personally that you should tell him about these words? well, i hope that after the fall of putin and the kremlin, orban will go to

trial and that this trial will be fair, because it is the leader of hungary who printed the government and, in fact, after the death of putin lukashenko , the crown of the last dictator of europe smoothly passes into his hands, and this, too, something must be done . now there are scandalous journalists there or other guys and girls of the kremlin’s casket, i wouldn’t react to them. we used to hear that russia cannot be defeated because it is a technologically very developed country, that it has a lot of tanks, planes, now there are only boots on the grass and they say that there are too many of them to defeat. we will not be able to, we will be able to defeat, of course , we must understand at what cost and reduce our efforts not only in military affairs, but in fact in

the management of the state, so that there is no corruption, so that there is no inefficiency, and most importantly, so that there is no treachery of ukrainians to the kremlin well, regarding corruption regarding what is happening in the same ministry of defense of ukraine during the week , we have been watching the story regarding the purchase of winter or summer jackets, it is no longer clear what was purchased from the ministry of defense but it is clear that the company that carried out purchases in turkey before this the company involves relatives of high-ranking officials from the office of the president of ukraine, and we see how the minister of defense makes some appeals to the journalist and people's deputies regarding the pariah, let's close the threshold who will win and

will lose his position. how do you perceive this whole story? how do you know what makes ministers? you were a minister yourself, and obviously the main thing for a minister is to preserve honor and trust and still remain a person who is responsible for his words. well, i think that after the first scandal, i was sent to resign immediately, but this is not even about the ministers , eh, the president of ukraine spent the last four years to ensure that the government had one single face, all the others are faceless, we will learn about their surnames on the day of their release, eh, and never we suspect their existence in addition to corruption scandals and this is now a huge challenge for zelensky in fact and since i heard that he is planning his political future and he will have to answer for the members of his team who in fact among the public will bear the surname zelensky and uh if the reaction of the president is not decisive if he does not immediately stop such manifestations. and this is not

only the dismissal of officials who were directly involved in the schemes, but first of all the people who recommended them for these positions were appointed to these positions and are guarded in these positions, because we understand that in the same information, there is a difference in the fact that he personally has very few powers, but who appointed his deputies and who are their goals from the thread here, it is enough to simply figure out if there is desire and power, for example, our law enforcement agencies, it should be such a desire for a long time, power does not want, then volodymyr zelenskyi announced this week that he will introduce a bill to the verkhovna rada of ukraine that provides for equating an act of corruption with high treason it is not enough now, mr. volodymyr, criminal liability for acts of corruption, which should be equated with high treason. well, if high treason

should be equated with looting during the war , obviously with you, i happened to see a video of a friend of tyshchenko, kum yarmak, and a close friend of the president, who offered to go even further but this is to reduce corruption to the death penalty and the corrupt person should be punished by the throat, these are all beautiful phrases and beautiful visas that are produced for us, in fact, we lack one thing, the execution of court orders there are no objective verdicts and grabbing top corruption by the hands and putting handcuffs on them, because sometimes there are even high-profile cases when i hear about the top officials who led the schemes. well, it's funny to me , it can't be like that when an official of the second category does what he wants takes bribes in the millions or billions, and officials of category a, who are directly responsible for his work in this position, are in our noses , it does not happen like that, but unfortunately, this is the case in ukraine, so

will we equate state corruption treason and bring corrupt officials out of the department to the conditionally tame other law enforcement agencies, or will we promise to execute them, this will have no effect as long as there are decision-making algorithms that immediately encourage bribery and there are top officials who willingly cover all of this. thank you, vladimir, for the conversation. this was volodymyr omelyan, former minister of infrastructure , serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, we are friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us on youtube, you can take part in our survey today we are asking you about whether the transfer of hostilities to the territory of the russian federation will force russia to leave ukraine, answer options are yes, no, and you can write your answer option in the comments below, we have oleksiy hetman, a russian veteran of the ukrainian war reserve major of the national guard of ukraine mr. major and i congratulate you for the sake

of seeing you on our air good evening let 's start with you and continue the more accurate survey of ukraine by the transfer of hostilities to the territory of the russian federation. what do you think? well, the transfer of hostilities to the territory of the russian federation obviously means that there are no longer russian troops on the territory of ukraine. we already know hostilities on the territory of russia. if we postpone hostilities , well, maybe not us personally, but the russian foreign legions who volunteer there, their unit will start hostilities there, then i am sure that the troops will be deployed already there try to take any actions directly on the territory of the russian federation, it is unlikely that they will be very prophesied if there will be any movement towards moscow, for example, or

just any kursk, at least another well, at random, he said any relatively large or very large atmosphere cities on the territory of the russian federation. i think that they will not be anywhere in ukraine . there is no need for hostilities in ukraine. the only thing that they will fight for is you. what will they do for crimea, because for them it is sacred and the loss of crimea will be mean the political death of today's leadership of the russian federation or even the physical death , although by and large the newest leaders. if they come to the same base as the russian federation is today. putin well, there will be no, putin will be a patron so that there is still some uh creature nearby, so it’s not about the last name, after all, it’s about the fact that this russia needs to be changed by the whole world, because leaving such a country is a dangerous country, a sponsor

of terrorism, as well as officially recognized, god bless so that you know that this is a terrorist country. well, give it a go and recycle it, so that the harrows of god start again, some kind of war from the territory of this country is changing russia, e-e, what is done every night in the regions, i mean drones that hit military objects e-e in some industrial enterprises that night, seven regions of the russian federation were attacked at the pskov airfield, four planes were destroyed and two were damaged in 76, well, that is, these are quite serious losses for russia, because as far as i remember ill-76 e-e in russia, they the total number is 110, that is, it is exactly the excursion, these are exactly

the planes there, 18 planes that flew in the direction of zhulyany and gostomel vasylki, they also flew one, it seems that they shot down our plane, thanks to them, but they were flying we gave them the opportunity to land in different ways now about it then, well, everyone knows how we stopped it, we will talk about it already after the war, the history of the work and these are exactly these planes well, maybe not these planes, but the planes that called there were also damaged, you know, there was a video from the moscow city recently when some girl saw the explosion there, she didn't say that it was very scary. she didn't say anything like that. oh, how interesting they ran. let's see , that is, for the legs. it's just for fun. they don't understand that the war has already moved to their territory and so far they are not well, the vast majority of them are not afraid. for now, they are interested in something new. when this happens, they will be permanent and they will understand that we

are capable of attacking and capable of destroying their plates . well, everything related to their armed forces is the decision-making center of leontovich. teams and so on, i think that there will be a change in their consciousness and this change will manifest itself when they finally start to announce an air alert in moscow, so far the peace of moscow has made a decision, well, i understand that it is putin who told him that there are no there will be no air for the second moscow, i think that when they start there, little by little, it will begin to reach them that the war was already taking place on their territory. well, they will not remember there with her , well, the well-known saying that any country that starts a war must understand that war arrests were eventually carried out. on its territory, they did not know or heard of this, but they will see almost everything. i think that a lot will change, and we must understand that our uavs that we produce are our own weapons and they are powerful, we produce them in large quantities

, they are more modern than the same iranian mines, because let's take into account our engineers , they are still a little more professional than iranian engineers, for example, that's why well here , especially since they were doing these bpalas from the supply of the soviet union for many years there, mother we make modern weapons, and that's why when we have them, and they said they are very modest, more than a thousand a month, we can produce, well, 10,000, that's also more than a thousand ago. i think that i believe that the next attacks will not be 20-30, but 200- 300 and then i think that they will understand what is happening and some movements may begin and for now these are two words so as not to drag it out , this is the question they are for now. they start talking about it and when it will be massively and it will not be possible to keep silent, i think well, a lot of things will start to change inside the russian federation well, i am sure

of this, we will return to the situation on the eastern and southern fronts majora writes about the fact that the armed forces of ukraine broke through the surovykin line in the south of ukraine e military correspondent bil yulian repke published geolocated satellite images on his blog, according to rybka, the zsu is now approaching the village of verbove , zaporizhia region, and they have already passed the main line of russian defense in zaporizhia region, which still consists of concrete barriers of trenches, minefields, barbed wire and firing positions, well, that is, is this soromikin line, or are there three strands of these sorovikin lines, eh, what were the russians proud of? that the armed forces of ukraine

are getting closer and closer to melitopol and the sea of ​​azov in order to cut off the supply line or the land line from russia to the occupied crimea. an attack on the crimean bridge and actually, it is obvious that the russian group will remain in a bag called the crimean one, i understand correctly that it will be an encirclement in a big way, crimea will turn into an island, well, on the contrary , melitopol will have an airplane, they have built a circle of defense around it, that is, i want to make it a fortress for some reason i think we will do some kind of frontal storm , no one will do this, look at bakhmut we are trying to surround him or at least keep him under fire control and further well, in the end i will be forced to go there because it is almost impossible to be in bakhmut there. it will be the same with takmak and just as it will be with mariupol. well, we will find kirillovka , it will already be the coast of azov, er, on

the sea of ​​azov, a very wonderful city. i vacationed there many times with my grandmother. i really want to return it to our control again. everything is very nice there, everything is very good there, but about melitopol, here is an interesting thing if you look at the map of dibstate, er, two . well, there a week ago and today, they are starting to build fortifications on the approaches to the north of melitopol, that is, such vertifications were not even examined for another week, well, 1.5 weeks ago, they did not exist , that is, they understand that no one will storm that way , that we are advancing, and by and large , there were no longer any after the tehmak. well, there is only a roadblock along such raw material lines, were there not any powerful fortifications ? well, apparently, there were still combat operations there, your enemy will defend himself there, he will add additional troops of the summer vysk and an airborne assault division there, but still