[000:00:00;00] on the basis of the sea of ​​azov, it is a very wonderful city. i spent my childhood there many times with my grandmother. i really want to bring it back under our control. it is very beautiful and everything is very good there, but there is an interesting thing about melitopol . today, they are starting to build fortifications on the approaches to the north of melitopol, that is, such fortifications even under the pharmacy for a week , well, 1.5 weeks ago, there were none, that is, they understand that no one will storm like this that we are advancing, and by and large, according to the tehmak, there were no longer only checkpoints on the roads, there were no syrovikin lines or any powerful fortifications . well, obviously, there were still combat operations there, your enemy will defend himself there, he will add additional troops there of the summer army of the airborne assault division, but still

defend yourself in reinforced concrete structures, where there are thin connections to be dug, and this and everything around is mined, like all the fields there, i thought it was a clean field, and they have much less chances than the russians therefore, let us believe that this year, before the cold rains, we will see our troops already directly on the coast of the rising sea in parallel with the construction of another line, but already without surovikin, because we know that the forty are no longer commanders , it is not at all clear where he is sitting somewhere in the ocean in a prison. they say that he is in prison. they fed him there. he lost his mind. well , he lost his mind. let's say he was gone, but something is wrong with him. but that's not what the russians are for.

judging by everything, about 100 are planning the estuary kupyansk operation they drove 000 e-e personnel there and this is quite a powerful resource, as serhiy naev , the commander of the combined forces of the armed forces of ukraine says, e-e russia withdrew its troops in belarus and threw them all in the direction of the kupyan and liman areas, does this mean that russia is ready to go to kharkiv, considering that the ukrainians are going to the sea of ​​azov. in this way, to pull up part of the forces that are currently on the southern front. yes, of course , they planned it this way. this was an operation not exactly to advance somewhere, well, somewhere advance somewhere, capture some territory. this was an operation to force us to transfer some forces from the southern direction to the kuplensky lymanskyi to gain defense , we added the headlights to the reserve there, but the reserves were not from

the southern direction, but from the middle of the country, we had such opportunities and so far well, there it is difficult, but we, well, today we are able to hold the defense there, if they really try , very, very powerful well, then we will have to make some kind of decision, which one ? on the other hand, they are really there with belarus, that’s two or even three weeks ago , they didn’t pull up the troops. friends were trained there. well , the so-called young fighter’s course there is about 20,000. they finished their training, as in belarus it was used as a training ground and they transferred it there, well, to kupnytsky the lyman direction, here are all the newly trained military personnel on the other side , uh, they took the guards 76th airborne division from the kuplen lyman direction, and that's why, well , the airborne work, more precisely, i will get in

the old division has everything, the pskov division is quite powerful there, it has combat experience, there are not so many freshly mobilized , well, it is by and large the elite part of the russian federation, it is from the kupyansk liman direction that this division was taken and transferred to the southern direction to the house, and in the same way they took the 7th mountain assault division from the kherson region, what i transferred to the south, that is, they are strengthening their grouping there, but not thanks to the reserve, about which they say so much. but thanks to the fact that they are moving the troops along the front, this means that in some place where they removed from will be weakened. well, it obviously leaked there, it leaked there, it flowed there, which means from where. but it leaked so far, some reserves that they can pull up. well, from belarus. yes, others were trained there. well, for now there is no information that they can’t add somewhere. well, even though there are 23,000 military personnel, they are planning to add 400 or 450,000 more in slovakia. it is mathematically and physically difficult to understand how they are going

to do this, where will they dig these people up on the streets, well, let's see, you will see about 450,000 in the plans that should be mobilized anyway, although we have already calculated that on our front during the russian-ukrainian war, uh, at the peak of the number of russians, this is somewhere at the end of last year, there were already on the front line and there were somewhere 400 or 450,000 years ago, you have to understand that they already had such a powerful group . we remember the offensive action far from such a powerful group that tried to do it at the beginning of this year. they didn't advance , they put a lot of lives and managed to advance, well , near the bahmut, near the solidarity in it and that's all for a large account, and the grouping was up to 400, more precisely, more than 400,000, now they want to draw something else, add thousands, but it will be

well, i don't know, i'm not sure what you know . they took out the mobilisin e-e the capacity of russian prisons was estimated at about 70,000 more people . it was impossible to recruit there, taking into account the women. they took people from depressed areas who have certain debts on loans for some small offenses, that is, it was easier for them to go and serve in the armed forces, but why stay at home, how are the realtors there, or who are their collectors, who pulled them, then the third third component, they made a very expensive , very powerful advertisement, that’s how it is possible to serve well in the russian armed forces, which in this way, you were not able to get many people involved . well, and the fourth component, they promised people who are foreigners, who agree, who agree to fight for russia. well, russia in the armed forces of the regular part of the russian

of the army, they receive russian citizenship almost automatically if they had the opportunity to recruit 450,000 people so easily if they plan. then why was it necessary to do such complicated hands, advertising, imprisonment, er , depressed, er, foreigners, well, you know, you can do it already it's a little bit different, mr. major , i wanted to ask you about one more story that most veterans of the russian and ukrainian wars are obviously faced with. 27-year-old fitness trainer and blogger roman zavolok, who the day before spat at veterans and humiliated them by filming it, sbu spokesman artem dekhtyarenko explained why the fitness trainer was detained, we will hear that he baselessly accused ukrainian defenders of being allegedly responsible for starting the war in the russian federation

against ukraine and kill people for money, moreover, the person involved spat at one of the soldiers, he turned out to be a soldier of the armed forces who returned from the front after receiving a concussion and numerous injuries as a result of a mine explosion , according to the investigation, the provocateur recorded his criminal acts on camera, then shoot a video with comments, he posted it on his own page on instagram, as established by the sbu. in this way, the person involved has already repeatedly tried to discredit ukrainian defenders who are fighting against the russian invaders . the information that the attacker's provocative videos and posts could be used by kremlin propagandists to spread new fakes about the war in ukraine p major, the war in ukraine continues, but obviously these stories will be repeated even after the war, because part people live in the rear, people come from the war

, in what way do you think ukrainian society can overcome this gap between civilians who live in the war, but not at the front, and those who come from the front? this to this blogger, if he is a fitness trainer - this person is in good health and the question should be immediately addressed to the military commission if we are still not in the armed forces and it will be because he is urgently needed well , not urgently, just according to the protocol, according to the laws, he must be called up to the ranks of the armed forces forces and well, there is nowhere to explain to him there very quickly who is there and what you are for. well, let's go. well, let azov be there. i think he will like us there, and the guys looking for gold will also like him there. everything will be fine, but about how to arrange for people who will return to from the war. you know it was a problem for atoshniks who returned after the ato and there weren't very many of us like that, well, compared to the number of the civilian

population, and by the way, i also spat like that, but the truth was that it wasn't in kyiv, not here yet there in the east, some do not even call it in some places, the local public, it's not me personally. maybe there, as a group, we were also told how bad we are, that we are to blame for everything here. well, you can't get used to anything like that here, but about these people. well, you know , this glamorous public is very annoying. these majors appeared unexpectedly, i already forgot there is another one that has not been seen for a long time now they mean somehow i did something after which they grew up behaves they think that they are holding the bogozavrat by the beard but there is even a tamanitura here but there is a nuance, a nuance in that that we had a lot, they returned from the anti-terrorist operation, and now they will return from the front. well, about 2 million people who, uh, went through this war there, and these people among themselves, well, there will be almost no, almost no

, there will be no quarrels, although there are certain quarrels, and it will be like this a certain contingent and who else will have to adapt to us people who have returned from the war well, i am already released and this war is only a few months old for me. well, there are three or four places at the beginning and that's it. unfortunately , later on i was released due to age and other indicators. i will say so well, my brothers, what kind of people will come back, i don't think that they should adjust. because there will be many of us and there will be such majors who will adjust, and they will adjust very quickly. i don't think that there is a problem here, there was a problem, there was a problem, you know, let's say a little two words about it, when did we do it, maybe who remembers such a flash mob, 22 push-ups from the pore, everyone did it, even the generals, why did they do it because in the united states 22 people from people who

took part in the vietnam war, he and it in other wars and they laid hands on themselves because they could not find themselves in civilian life because there were not many of them and they ended up in completely different environments 22 people per day this is a very large number so we did 22 push-ups and asked our friends from the united states not to do this, come, even though they offered. come to us, at least we will find you her work , everything will be fine. that's how it happens, people have to set up people who came when the war was local war and such people are few, when it is a full-scale war, there are a lot of such people, then they adapt, it will be these majors , who and the dolboyashrys. believe us. thank you, mr. majora . also on our youtube and facebook platforms for those who are currently watching us on youtube and facebook please like and e take part in the survey

of ukraine, the transfer of hostilities to the territory of the russian federation, yes, no, or your option . please write in the comments . further , we are in touch. i congratulate you, i'm glad to see you on our air, have a good evening, have a good health, let's start with today's event at the pskov airport, because russian propagandists exploded from the event of the night event where four il-76 were burned and 2 planes

were damaged, we hear like crazy russian propagandist solovyov called for the destruction of the baltic states after the drone attack on the upsk airfield, let's break it down into a number of questions about whose land he needs to be treated and there's nothing to comment on here, mr. generals. how do you assess the prospects of transferring the war or hostilities , let's say, from the territory of ukraine to the territory of russia, and the current trend saved this night - these seven regions were attacked in the central part of the russian federation, well , look, i have always been a supporter of the transfer of the war to the territory of russia because without these events, which are now happening almost every night in russia, it would not have reached them that the war had come to their home, that they had started this war in the first place, and that

the boomerang has the ability to return, and the more problems there are in russia how much less will they have the opportunity to use their powers on the territory of ukraine , and all this is very simple, only carrying out the war and some kind of horror there on the territory of russia, and we are very tolerant towards their civilian objects , look at the vast majority, if not it is not by chance, a coincidence of circumstances there does not shoot down the drones of the vast majority, it is an attack on military objects and objects, roughly speaking , decision-making and even the same moscow network, the ministry is located there, and it is impossible to say exactly what it is uh, it's a civilian dinner, so we demonstrate that, unlike russia, which strikes educational institutions, medical institutions, cultural facilities, civilian

facilities, houses, uh, where people live, we hit military facilities and so it will continue in the future if they hope that they will have a peaceful dream, let them forget about him and i would like to hear what he will say with his own when the drones start flying to murmansk arkhangelsk and who will he blame there norway finland well i don't know let's see the accusations against the west have already been heard and from the mouth of the spokeswoman yes the so-called spokeswoman of the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation, maria zakharova, let's hear the kyiv regime using drones to attack several objects in the russian regions according to a preliminary report, a military and civilian airfield in bryansk was damaged an administrative building in the dzerzhinsk district of the kharkiv region, the unmanned aerial vehicle flew into an empty storage

tank, not all of the products were shot down in the oryol, ryazan, and tula regions of moscow, it flew such a distance that it was unmanned, worked out with information from western satellites , ukrainian drones simply could not be russian propagandists and representatives of the russian government say that ukraine would not have done this without the west, so that ukraine could not have resisted the west for so long he says, well, in principle, we condemn the fact that drones are flying there, and this is probably bad, but ukraine has the right to defend itself in accordance with the united nations charter, no one forbids the ukrainian state to retaliate against a military object to you, general, is the constant appeal to the west and the constant hunting there of the nato countries

of the russian government, or is this an attempt to downplay the role of ukraine itself and the ukrainian heroes who work against the russian federation in order to say, well, we are losing there to ukraine or we got punched in the teeth by ukraine at the pskov airport, but it would be impossible to do this for them. ukraine is the bone of their will, they do not accept ukraine as a state and the mortgage that can stop them, and in their narratives they simply cannot express the fact that the armed forces of ukraine are able to stop russia, they are able to achieve the goals that we saw this night, so it is clear that it is much easier for them to explain all their losses and losses not by the fact that

ukraine is strong and can respond, but by the fact that the conditional measure and nato are fighting against them, and therefore, if we lose, we will lose not in ukraine, but in the institution, and it is clear that it is easier to say that the drones flew from estonia because it is not so far there, 100 km, yes, than seven, more than 700 km from ukraine. someone is there knows, declared that belarus was involved in the attack, because if they were flying from the side of ukraine, then belarus definitely contributed to this flight . drones over they cannot recognize it as their own territory. so, mr. generals, i will ask you as a specialist in national security issues, because what has been happening over the past few days is that parishioners of the ukrainian orthodox church

of the moscow patriarchate have been marching to the pochaiv lavra despite the prohibition of their procession during the war e- it is very difficult to perceive within the framework of the simple volition of the parishioners and the fact that they wanted so much and marched there to the pochaiv lavra according to yours. during the war, the laws are still unwritten, that is, these are the dances that they introduce in ukraine and that they arrange during martial law. they directly affect the internal situation, and we see that this is a great official resource of russia and the branches of the russian orthodox church, because it is in the conditions

wartime well, there must be a lot of such marches, what do you think, is there a place for such a procession during martial law or not ? listen, the law is written for them , they do it all on purpose in order to provoke the ukrainian authorities and make a picture for uh for the enemy, no one is being persecuted here, this is the first time, and secondly , you. pay attention to the contingent that is walking in this crowd. this is very simple . one roadblock is set up and women with children are allowed through. and all the men are moved aside and start to sort out. where are the documents, what are you doing. where did you come from? why are you at the front? and are you on the list and do you know that they all dissolve very quickly? well , in the thickets and and and the landing, that's all clear, it's all done on purpose in order to show that there is strength, we

, we, we are strong, we will stand until the end, we don't break it and close it all only in one case, when the pochaiv lavra will return to where it should be to the ukrainian churches, it does not matter if it is a recatholic church from which it was once removed . will it be the orthodox church of ukraine, mr. general ? whether to apply force to them or not to apply force in the kyiv-pechersk lavra, the monks there were barracked by the commission of the ministry of culture, they do not allow e-e in the verkhovna rada of ukraine there is a bill registered regarding the e-e ban activities of the branch of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, but all this is at the level of such a political pause, that is, they decide whether it is politically expedient. is it politically expedient? you as a professional, as

a person who led the security service of ukraine , do you see the threats posed by this church in ukraine in relation to and the current one regarding the future congress. i don't want to repeat myself, but i clearly said that this is not a church. this is a center , a religious structure that uses its opportunities, uh, works for the enemy. and all this while earning money and deceiving the parishioners without telling them the truth because when you start cooperating with people when you directly communicate with them and tell the truth, you show truthful videos uh, what do their uh, uh , so-called this church uh-uh church leadership say, what do their churchmen in moscow say people say that we did not know this , we thought that it was not true, you understand that there is a part of people who can never be convinced of anything and

do not need to convince them, but the administrative weight of the state must be very strong close this is this branch, forget about it, and everything else will be decided by itself. if a part wants to go and pray, let it go and pray where it wants, how it wants, but all the churches that belong to ukraine should return to ukraine and definitely not be used against ukraine, why is this not brought to an end? that you can't sit on two chairs, understand both you and our decisions, and only in this case everything everything will fall into place, another rather powerful front that works against ukraine, against the ukrainian people, this is corruption volodymyr zelenskyy said this week that he wants to submit draft laws to the verkhovna rada of ukraine that will equate

the act of corruption with treason. what can you say about why we are the sixth president and the sixth president has been announcing the fight against corruption for the fourth year and the previous six previous five presidents also said that it is necessary to fight corruption . it's really a very scary thing that harms us and our future. i think that the steps ukraine has taken in recent years by creating a certain school and anti-corruption and a systematic approach to doing everything so

that there are no overlaps roughly speaking, the client and those who provide services , this is exactly the way to destroy corruption . the other is clear to some people we have a clear structure that is responsible for this, and unfortunately only certain incomprehensible steps on the part of some or other managers make us think a lot. is it correct? do we understand this

struggle correctly? worked and i would like to believe that it will not break down and that everything will work in the same way in which it has worked before, including everywhere here in some new structures, new organs, and i consider this absolutely one of those things , well, it is not clear to me it's a comeback to the revival of the so-called anti-corruption block in the security service system, we are again returning to the early 90s, when a simple decision, er, thought that it was well, that making simple decisions, the president before performing some simple, well, complex tasks , the security service since the 90s, almost

for 30 years, it was engaged in the fight against corruption. what did this lead to, that the service found itself in a situation where it performed functions that were not characteristic of a special service, if we want to return to this? well, then we need to tell our partners that nato is not up to date and the problem reforming the security sector is also not at stake, we need to build a system of soviet special services that dealt with everything else . that's all. well, especially in 2016, when a package of anti-corruption laws was adopted, then everyone talked about the fact that our legislation is the best in the world in general in europe, therefore, in principle, it is obviously not about increasing responsibility, but simply about the implementation of laws .

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of the combined forces of the american forces in europe, and mykhailo sama, the village expert at the moment. goodbye to ukraine in the studios of the mayor are working in london today in the program we are talking about the price of the ukrainian counter-offensive what are the losses of the armed forces of ukraine in order to return the territories seized by russia in ukraine the number of those killed in the war is increasing rapidly american officials claim the true number of losses is a state secret but the new york times recently wrote 70,000 ukrainian servicemen have died since the beginning of the full-scale invasion of russia into ukraine, what is the price of advancement at the front