[000:00:00;00] with you until monday until 20:00 i wish you all good health take care of yourself and your loved ones goodbye greetings on the air from the wall from ukraine in the studio they are already working feromeru today in the program we are talking about the situation at the front and the breakthrough of russian fortifications yes russian drone bribery yansky was rescued by bbc journalists who spent a month with the soldiers of the ukrainian armed forces on the eastern front , one of the most difficult areas of the front where russian forces exceed 100,000 exclusive

bbc report and analysis counteroffensive from an expert let's start from the counter-tenth floor ukrainian troops launched offensive operations near bakhmut in the east and west of the zaporizhzhia region in the southern direction, they advanced on both sections of the front, the american analytical center of the institute for the study of war reports, the ukrainian command confirmed at the beginning of the week that it liberated the village of robotin, for which heavy fighting continued until three months and on the eve of the edition of holstree journal reported that ukrainian troops broke through the main line of russian defense in the south-east of the country and this is according to the publication has given rise to hope for a breakthrough in the counteroffensive in the last few weeks, bbc correspondents quentin somervell and darren conway, together with the soldiers of the ukrainian armed forces, spent on the front line in the area between kupyansk and liman both cities ukrainian forces retook that in september of last year, but now the military is facing a new deadly threat

from russian with mitrons and comedians, fighting in the east of ukraine has intensified. it is here, as the ukrainian military command claims, in these trenches and on these fields that the fiercest battle is unfolding, so the final during in recent days, there has been a lot of activity by the russians in this area. they sent airdrops around the village to get behind me, so now we have to leave before dawn to get to the cops. the russian troops left southern kupyansk almost a year ago, but the enemy has been trying to return here for the past few weeks. the russians managed to advance. here, behind these fields , the soldiers of the 68th yeger brigade are tasked with preventing the enemy from advancing, their

positions are attacked by infantry and artillery units every day, here you can see this is the exit of the artillery, as they explain to us, there are about 100 thousand russian soldiers concentrated along this front line, these are newly formed combat groups, some of them are located behind these trees on the colorantia phylla, if you look around, you will see that this place is being shelled there is a lot of damage here, there are many positions in the trenches to take cover when attention is focused on the counteroffensive in the south of ukraine, it is easy to forget that fierce battles are being fought in the east and in the north, in the south, offensive actions are advancing little by little, but here in the east, russia

this war attacks on many front lines and it depletes the resources of russia , but also of ukraine, so the demands on the ukrainian military fighting in the south and east are growing. we have to go - he says, get in the car, a dozen shells arrive in the same minute. we first met andriy in june, when he participated in the southern counteroffensive in the area of ​​the great novosilka . the man says that the eastern front is more deadly. novosilky was great. less is not without safety because the number of russian e-e military was much smaller than here and here they have more weapons. above all, that is why their

successes here are modest, but from kupyansk to the estuary and further south, russia is restoring its power in the srebynsk region . in the forest, the situation is particularly tense, we are going deep into this forest, there were many battles here, an artillery strike, maybe a couple of hours ago, you can see it is still burning, this whole area is being fired from drones and missile systems, you can see trees without top military equates artillery barrage with wwi battle of verdun but now there's a new deadly threat kamikaze drone bullet explodes in front of our car now we're trying to find

cover machine gunner falls inside go okay says unharmed nods carpenter on our car russian drone so they spotted us they sent drones now they are looking for us and hunting us what do we need to move quickly we are only a few hundred meters from our position drones are working in pairs on the mountain, another drone for surveillance, so we leave the road, we had to stop here, the danger is that the deeper you go into the forest, the shelter does not get better, there is constant russian artillery, it destroys trees, and this turns these areas into wide and

open very open that's why there are no trees here we had to pull off the road drones are working above us and we just witnessed what they are capable of thanks to the thick armor of the hummer and the quick thinking of the driver no one inside was hurt but of course the civilians who live near the front, young and old residents of kupyansk are being evacuated from their homes, now they are in the range of russian weapons, russia does not understand last year, they survived six months of occupation, they refuse to be in it again, the offensive of the russian army on the eastern front is again separating ukrainian families viktor hugs his family

for the last time before they part sofia is only 5 months old the girl is too precious to leave her in danger why are you sending your children away it's scary i don't know what will come or not to squeeze or not to squeeze viktor hoped that the goodbyes were over but as russia advances, he prays to see his

family again and we are joined by a military analyst director of the independent platform newga network mykhailo samus mykhailo i congratulate you so in the report of our correspondents from the eastern front we are the first so to speak, they saw the tactics of the russians' use of attack drones , as well as how difficult it is for the defense of the ukrainian police in the area of ​​liman and kupyansk , meanwhile, in the south, they are reporting an advance the armed forces and the breakthrough of the russian fortifications near the village of verbove. how do you assess the situation at the front and the change in russian tactics in general? well, i will not say that this is a tactic, that the tactics of the russians have changed , in fact, the russians constantly used shock crowns and the fact that there are more of them is an objective process more and more investments are being made both in ukraine and in russia, the development of ftv drones, e-e in attack drones of other modifications in russia, this is the lancet, for example, and therefore it should not be surprising that russia

will use them more and more on the battlefield the question here is that we need to find countermeasures and protection against these drones , and this is paradise electronic warfare, including air defense systems, which are specifically designed to destroy drones, because those traditional air defense systems that have been manufactured since of the cold war, and they were, after all, uh, trained, let's say, focused on the destruction of traditional targets, these are airplanes and uh, for example, missiles, as for the situation on the front, in principle, uh , the ukrainian army is actively advancing on south in three directions, this is precisely the tokmak direction that you mentioned, this is the berdyansky direction, and now the volnovakha volnovasky direction has also been activated, which is aimed at mariupol, the main efforts

of the ukrainian army here are focused on the kupyan direction, russia is trying to attack, are they forcing or how are thinking of forcing the ukrainian command to withdraw reserves from the south or the bakhmut direction, where the ukrainian army is also actively advancing, and transfer them to the north in order to prevent a breakthrough russians, but in the west, these different , sometimes even opposite, assessments of ukrainian continuity are heard in the american press, saying that he is lethargic, slow, almost a failure. expectations are exceeded, how premature are such statements in your opinion ? i think that in order to understand what the ukrainian offensive is, you need to go and see what it is

like on the battlefield, but now there was a report and there one feels what a real war is like sitting in the united states to criticize er combat actions that well, in terms of scale and intensity surpass everything that happened after the second world war i think absolutely maybe even inadequately that is, the ukrainian army acts according to what resources it has of course the american generals such an operation has never been carried out, because according to the modern american doctrine, the nato doctrine , it is necessary to first conduct the air phase , to win a dominant position in the air and destroy ground objects, the infrastructure of the force air defense and destroy the main lines of defense only after that to conduct the ground phase, which records the achievement of the air phase, because our allies, unfortunately, did not provide us with the same f-16 modern aircraft in the ukrainian command, and did not give the russians the opportunity to build these structures there for six months about defense and conducts a very difficult

ground operation in which the russians have air superiority and it is very difficult, but the ukrainian soldiers, officers, sergeants are breaking through this defense and i think that just before the end of the autumn campaign, if we are talking about the current moment, we will see achievements, which, for example, will consist in the crossing of the main logistical transport routes, for example, the city of melitopol . in the new year, we should receive the f16, then the operation will go a little at a different pace. by the way, british military analysts agree with you that no army in the world has yet transitioned to an offensive against a larger enemy without air superiority, yes, that is, in 16, it is delayed at least until the end of the year, as you said, and to what extent are they

able to change the distribution of forces at the front ? so it's uh, why is it the infliction of russian aviation with a blow, uh, it's corrected with special bombs that are very dangerous - these are powerful bombs that uh, are designed and created according to the example of american bombs jam. that is, they are guided high-precision bombs that cause a lot of damage to our troops and why can the russians enter let's say the area of ​​application of these missiles that can be used from a distance of 50 km because we do not have aviation that could repel russian aviation thank you mykhailo unfortunately in we don't have enough management time, it was the director of the independent platform, mykhailo sas, and that's all for today

until monday , congratulations, friends, we continue the information broadcast on the expresso tv channel, mykola veresen, vitaly portnikov, greetings health, as always, first at the front, and then we will look around ukraine, and in ukraine we will also look , but first, anyway, at the front oleksiy hetman , reserve major of the national guard of ukraine, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian wars, now you can even say war if you count that there are two of them some will take into account that this is one. well, in short, good health . thank you, what time means to us, mr. oleksiy

. good evening. look at this story about the bombing of russia, ukrainians, well, by some forces, it is unknown. where did these forces come from, but to what extent is it more emotional or more military? is it a mixture because, well, there are such obvious advantages there, these military transport planes are damaged or simply destroyed, on the other hand, many say that it is more to stun the russians and raise the mood of the ukrainians, and not for in other words, we know that many drones are developed by ukrainians and sooner or later it will fly to russian territory, it will give results in the military sense of the word, well, 5% of the planes and 76 had

destroyed by this stage or did we have too much of it i think it is normal 5% for one hit is normal about the emotional component component i think it now outweighs the military component it is very important for er, well , you and i in order for us to feel strong and capable of hitting targets on the territory of the russian federation, which many of us have longed for. it flies there as you say. well, this means that if they can intercept or can intercept a small number, then the next strike may be more powerful, it is not a few units or tens of e-e. based

on the official message of our representatives of the new secretary of national security , the president of the country in the general staff they say that ukroboronprom of course our missile defense system is still capable of producing at least a thousand or more precisely thousands of such drones per month, which means that the next strike will be more powerful and even the russians understand it. they somehow still discussed it some 2-3 months ago on their propagandists show . what are we going to do ? they asked each other like this if you and i use a powerful raid at once, powerful - that's a hundred and two hundred b palan of some kind on some object and there they came to the conclusion that their anti -aircraft defense will not be able to intercept all these drones and a large part of them will be able to break through

the air defense of the russian federation , then somehow they stopped talking about it they can speak in tongues there for the fact that they thus avoid the russian local public, but they were right here when on a mass raid e 200-300 400 well , for example, one object of e level will be destroyed even better than it will be a missile hit which we really want some kind of attack there, well, would it be better, mr. oleksiy , see another question. this is confirmation of your thoughts. today, before the program, i read somewhere that the air defense forces are redeploying against the southern defense of the far east to the west of the russian federation, that is, to the border with ukraine, here to the european part, which means that they really lack something, but everyone noticed the number 700, 700 km

, the range of the hit . that one and a half thousand kilometers there are hits, you will be surprised. that is, there is such a potential in ukraine that not only for 500-700,000, but already for 1,000 km there were strays. so i will not be surprised because one and a half thousand is where to count if from our border. that is possible one and a half thousand, if from another city, as i said, mr. bogdanov, then it can be 100 km , but from the border it will be 1,500. well, let's divide these things into two components. the first is to fly missiles. well, let's put it wrong together. but let's put it next to cruise ballistic missiles from a certain activity for which they can fly, it will definitely not be 1,500 per 800 km, it will most likely be 400,500 well, maybe

with a penny of kilometers, this is what our air defense can now produce, oh, our anti-aircraft missile system, but we are not the latest missile, this is recycled rockets that we have already begun to begin to develop, well, many years ago, in 15-16, in the 20th year , that is, i do not want to be associated with any political components, but we have been actively developing for 7-8 years, but in we don't have, by and large, long-range ballistic missiles, and in the future there are no such developments that can shoot at several thousand kilometers. that's why it is. well, by and large, we don't need, we have enough missiles, which according to international classifications are called short and medium-range, that is, 500 plus minus kilometers, but a distant impression of one and a half to 2,000 km, even talking about 3,000 km. it will most likely be a different weapon, it will be an unmanned aerial vehicle, which, well, even

there are made of cardboard. as they say, it is possible to make which will achieve these goals of the russian federation, and they are almost not well, they are badly vulnerable, it is not possible to intercept the role by official means, it can be done only with visual observation posts, which, by the way , was done in ukraine, we are all fraudsters, we are not the only ones, the station intercepts we have past visual observations that we know where they can fly and where we can expect these analysts. the russian federation is larger in size and it is not in the given situation. this is just a minus. they will not be able to visually cover the whole of russia from where our bpala can fly therefore on far distance, finishing the thought, it is very fast, it tells a lot, you can expect 300-400, 500 km strikes of our modified missiles, what do you want, s200 neptune thunder two, what do you want, but for a long

distance, it will be by uav well, that's all see another question well, these rumors are fertile well, he is always in a war such and such a fashion or such a necessity, do you really assume that there are some partisan units or that there may also be these drones that can be launched not at all from ukraine but somewhere from russia, is there such a possibility i just can't imagine how to deliver them here, but maybe it's possible to put them in a backpack , even though there are big wings. as far as i understand, but i can. they somehow fit together, that is , let's assume the opinion of many people that they really got somewhere in russia. i don't know if russian volunteers or ukrainian spies and saboteurs are launching these attacks there, well, at least maybe not completely, but for a certain percentage, all the flights are just

honor flights from people who are there directly in russia, you can imagine this. well, it is possible, theoretically, it is also possible it is possible that these will be people who do not collect and launch all bopls from the territory of the russian federation, but simply direct them from outside because they chatted when they did not fly close to the target. where are they directed ? do to us on the territory of the russian federation. i just want, uh, well, for all of us to remember how we planted, well, forced, not forced, how we did a very, very interesting operation when my helicopter came to us with eight pilots who surrendered and surrendered the plane. well, maybe for a reward how is it, as we promised, it must be done so that this would be an example for other pilots of the russian federation, but let

's understand a little how it happened. the pilot was unlikely to have placed an ad somewhere in a newspaper that was looking for sponsors for a flight to the territory of ukraine. that is, it was necessary to find such a person, it had to be done in such a way that i would explain how it should be done so that no one would guess it says that there were meetings with him. and those who met him repeatedly met him. our school, that is, ours, in which, judging by this , there is enough in russia, and we still need to look for this person in order to make an agreement with him, i think that with others pilots and some other people are going certain conversations, besides, let's remember what happened in 14-15 16th year, when russia blocked the possibility of supplying spare parts for our military equipment, which was still soviet at that time, well, we were left with btr-60-80, and they already stopped supplying us with spare parts, of course to supply, but we imported them in such a way that our group came to russia and there

somehow negotiated with the locals there in a warehouse somewhere or in some parts and we smuggled these things out, brought them to ukraine and supplied them to the armed forces, that is, spare parts. it was necessary to negotiate with people from some russians who were able to sell us these spare parts for money, or there was an obligation, or a stipulation, and we had to negotiate with the russian customs officials, because they had to be transferred somehow across the russian border, and it was our intelligence that was handed out to us, that's why you know, it seems to me that you don't need to tell us that we can do something for a garden that is not worse than that. i think that our intelligence is not worse than yourself. look at one more question. if we have already mentioned airplanes and helicopters, there are also

such a discussion is that death and disasters are the last two in donetsk region, in zhytomyr region, where there are airplanes, there were also helicopters, and there are people who believe that this could be sabotage. in the army, even in peacetime, airplanes and helicopters fall, so what is your opinion , it is possible that sabotage is possible. in these two cases, after all, two planes were lost . keep in mind the minister of internal affairs , and the helicopter is an accident. that's right. recently very, very recently, when i was in zhytomyr oblast, there were two planes, and there were helicopters, er, what you say, you can believe in your ass about diversions and somehow you know it is very little like the case of well, look, two planes, er, three experienced pilots who know how to fly it they are not combat planes, they are training planes, they are not so fast, they are also not very maneuverable, you can imagine if two cars collided in a clear field, well, it is

difficult to detect, yes, and it is even more difficult to collide in airplanes, because they still have one more degree of freedom, which says action ie upper with not only left and right, so it seems to me that there was some kind of external intervention here , because such a certificate is so easy for people to collide in flight, well, it is possible, but it is very unlikely, you know. we remember there. in the air and other such things are more or less known, but these are civilian planes, they are controlled by a large account there from lithuania. they just gave the wrong corridor here, people. well, there is a flight program, but visually they saw each other for well, in a few minutes maybe from seconds to many seconds before they collided and they had every opportunity to make some kind of maneuver to

avoid this collision, so it seems to me that there is something there, well , let our dbr figure it out. i think we need to investigate the black ones. well, they are orange. nothing . let there be no black boxes. and figure out what happened and why it happened. i am inclined to think that such pilots could not just collide if it was an external intervention, what exactly it is, it is difficult to say, but it seems to me that it is my own point of view that there was an external intervention thank you, oleksiy hetman, a reserve major of the national guard of ukraine, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, was in touch with us and will be in touch with us. as i understand it, pavlo klimkin is a diplomat of the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine from the 14th to the 19th those years, we hope you will see him now, congratulations, mr. pavlo, good health, mr. minister , mr. vitaliy, i congratulate mr. mykola. congratulations to all friends . let's start with ukrainian-polish relations , but today there was a message that ukraine is ready to complain to the european commission that

poland will unilaterally continue restrictions on the import of ukrainian agricultural products into this country, to what extent does this generally indicate a further worsening of bilateral relations, and in what sense can we say that poland is really violating the association agreement with the european union, which the ukrainian ministry of foreign affairs and other poles are telling it to continue this story , regardless of the emotional background of bilateral relations for them. this is important, of course, in the context of the elections that will be held in october , but now this issue is one of the key and in polish media and even personal conversations, what i hear from my polish friends is that

it will no longer be possible to extinguish this issue and it needs to be resolved, we overslept while it