[000:00:00;00] a-and the topic for our conversation and the reason for our conversation is the decision of the european union, which simplified the rules regarding the assets seized as part of sanctions and confiscated as part of criminal proceedings, which must be transferred to ukraine, he at least started negotiations with the governments of the eu countries regarding the relevant directive directive - this is an analogue of the ukrainian word law in the european union, and at what stage are these negotiations now , have the countries of the european union already reached some kind of agreement regarding the fact that the assets of russians arrested as part of the sanctions regimes will be given to us i would like to pass on here to start the answer to this question. i will mention that

recently an international register of losses was created in gas, which should accumulate all losses incurred by the state of ukraine by companies and citizens, and everyone understands that these losses must be compensated precisely at the expense of russian assets. the question is what to fill today uh, the european union has two realistic ideas, it's exactly uh what you mentioned - it's the arrest uh and uh, the introduction of criminal liability for violating the sanctions of the european union where the directive is already at the final stage, and the second idea is, accordingly, the second idea - this is precisely the taxation of profits from frozen russian assets that are stored in

the accounts of the largest european depository of the euroglue company - this is the language here it is precisely about 200 billion, almost 200 billion euros, of the assets of the russian central bank, which are in the accounts of this company , e.e., regarding the directive. directive and now institutional negotiations are starting between institutions, bodies of the euro -euro european union and beyond. once the parliament votes for this directive, it will become mandatory for all members of the member countries of the european union, well , it does not happen very quickly, but we understand

the bureaucracy in peaceful countries is not moving as fast as in ukraine when there is a war when everything is urgently needed and as of yesterday uh europeans are still in such a sweet uh deadlock and can solve such important issues for months unfortunately you monitor these initiatives, you have a special report like this, ru ss watch, it is called on the dxi group website , it can be found, if possible, we can show what it looks like, we have a video for this, and it is also financed by such a report there are some interesting diagrams, you can read it. it is many , many pages long. i will not retell the whole thing. and he is preparing this report on the support of the international revival fund , and this is precisely about this initiative of the members of the european parliament regarding the creation of legislation

on the seizure, confiscation of assets under security and the transfer of ukraine is going on there in the latest report, you can find it on the dixigroup website, and how is this process going in general , then you said that the deputies submitted an initiative for consideration by the european parliament, negotiations are underway with other branches of government in the european union , and then the european parliament has to vote. is there not going to be an additional origin from the side of the national parliaments within the european union , we understand that the european union is not the only country there are many countries in the composition, so at the level of the european council there will be negotiations with by the governments of the countries and does not prohibit anything, then by the national parliament, this directive will be mandatory, which at the level of the european

parliament will be voted by all parliamentarians, it will be mandatory for the implementation of the national governments and will be applied to the countries of the european union, why do i ask i have such a fear, we see what is happening with ukrainian grain when farmers of certain neighboring countries of ukraine and countries that are friendly to us , but suddenly they force their governments to refuse to block ukrainian grain it is actually contradictory to the free trade agreement signed with the european union, and only then the international and national authorities of the european union make appropriate decisions, that is , national governments can block such decisions, and i fear that individual countries can, we understand which countries can do this, can try to block

this initiative, we hope thank you for the question , we hope that this issue will be resolved precisely at the level of the european union will be the nearest a directive was recently adopted and it will be mandatory for all countries of the european union, and the negotiations regarding the differences will end precisely at the stage of the national and at the stage of the governments of the european union, if we talk about how much money this decision can bring us, how much for the assets of the russians under this sub-action, frozen, arrested in various eu countries, is there at least an estimated figure, because about assets, about gold and foreign reserves, you are there about 200 billion, yes, on the accounts, yes, there are numbers, they

became known after the application of the 10th package sanctions, when financial institutions were obliged to report on frozen russian assets, we are talking about both private and state russian assets, as i have already said, it became known about 200 billion euros that are frozen in the european union. these are russian state assets, assets of the russian central bank and somewhere around 30 billion euros - these are private assets about figures that can be confiscated now if we talk about the assets of the profit of the euroclear company, then this is according to estimates. it is about three or four billion euros per year, other experts call this money

7 but it is necessary to understand that the world bank has estimated the losses to ukraine at 411 billion dollars , the government of ukraine estimates the losses in ukraine at 700 billion dollars and these figures are somewhat not commensurate and the ideas are such that if there are opponents of this idea regarding the e directing the profits of the euroklar company to the reconstruction of ukraine that if the european union wants to intervene in the e -e system of the central european bank , then why can't it take away all the assets but as i already said today, two real ideas are the confiscation of assets where are the criminal proceedings?

we hope that the directive will be adopted soon, and the idea is that it is possible to direct the profits that are on the accounts of the depository of euroglue so that it is clearer and maybe i will speak, that is, it is about the fact that russian money is frozen on e-e to this deputy on the accounts yes, but the european union is afraid to transfer it. it is this money that he is ready to transfer only the profits from the management of this money because if he transfers the money, it is like someone else's property, a violation of property rights and this destroys the system itself, uh, sovereignty, that is, we are not talking about confiscation of all assets, because these are sovereign assets, they are protected by this sovereign immunity, and uh, the european union is ready to transfer the profits from the management of this money, although it is a pity that they are finally ready, they are not ready, that's right

the opponent is the european central bank, but talks are taking place, and this is one of the realistic ideas. so we actually only have two minutes left, and there are many questions . to be honest with you, let's choose the most important, so let's talk about confiscated assets in ukraine in europe. it is clear. and what should be done in ukraine with the confiscated assets of russians or russian-related structures, or should they not be transferred to the army, an organization that manages these seized assets and sells them at auctions or transfer them to the state property fund, well, it is not very clear, many willing to deal with the arrested russian assets er. so now this issue has become acute because more and more russian assets in ukraine er are being confiscated in accordance with the decision of

the higher anti-corruption court of ukraine and er then the question of what to do with these assets, how to dispose of them effectively so that they do not lose their value, here, first of all , we are talking about e-e working businesses and further already in this direction, the state property fund of ukraine is the main player in this direction, which should solve e- the future fate of these assets is either to privatize these assets , to give them for privatization, or to transfer the lease to the management regarding the management, there are different opinions. but it is clear that only the state can effectively manage, for example, critical infrastructure objects the present time e-e regarding

privatization so it should be transparent tenders er and er only then it is possible to effectively er effectively receive funds from the sale of these assets and the main question here is how not to lose the value of this asset so that it continues to work and bring profits to the state er to pay taxes to give jobs to people and this is a challenge for the state and well, but still, the state property fund should deal with this in your opinion, that is, it should be like this, it is already determined by the legislation. and yes, arma transferred assets that were previously transferred there and those the assets obtained by the army as part of the criminal proceedings are understandable ms. olena. thank you, olena, the expert from the tracking project, precisely

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, this week we have a daily column drones in russia, we will not to depart from tradition, the residents of bryansk had the most vivid impressions of two days, one country is the second, or without perun, the yoptel moptyla here, they started to attack bryansk with their heads, it’s just one, the second, he there, the third, first flew like an airplane

, someone like that, not on, they attack us from the front in program i have already told how they are trying to change the information on russian television about this, that is why citizens express themselves in social networks, but one way or another, even russian propagandists fall short in history, like a year and a half of the war. and how strange it turns out that russian bryansk suddenly becomes a front-line city once again, which borders ukraine, and the regional center of bryansk becomes a front-line city. i understand everything , but i still can't cope with emotions. of my world that the regional center of bryansk has become a front-line center and is being attacked by ukrainian drones two days in a row more and more sabotage and development groups will be sent to

russian territory more and more we will see red in drones more and more we will see cruise missile strikes on our territory the task of destabilizing the internal situation in russia well, the picture of the world will probably have to be changed, and here it also turned out that somehow everything is very bad with the ppp and suddenly they started talking about it too. well, that's how i see it and some new whose experts were caught on russian television, and we need to dominate the air ana we have, thank god, almost there is and we are a strong country, well, there was a modern armed forces - it’s not in ukraine, that’s back, that is, now, they have a western system, self-propelled complexes with long-range actions up to 1,000 km, you ask. and this allows you to close the line, including contact and force, and they have information from

the reconnaissance systems of nato . no, we can’t say that the situation hasn’t changed because i remember that there’s more , well, let’s assume now that we have august an hour ago in aviation construction, we could act, do everything, everything, everything that was blowing in the sky , anything, they could at least somersault, fly wherever they want and now everything will change yes, but the gender is further , i still have the western handle now in the air defense system and yes далее то есть и influenced well, a year ago they couldn't do anything, but you see, suddenly it turned out that after a year they said that literally no weapon would change anything on the battlefield, it turned out that it changes on the battlefield and changes a lot of things and in general

, that's already somehow it got even worse. i will remind you after vsimanyan told how they completely destroyed the ukrainian ppu for another year and a half, and suddenly it happens, and it also happens that in the last month they try to tell the russians about how they attack the kupyansk, but they will advance, they have almost advanced , there is a kilometer left, and suddenly this thought is the situation for us in the kharkov direction for a couple of months there, there is tension from our side. reserves and now

the situation is more stable, but it is stabilized, well, we are standing in order for the twelve to continue, or for the emissary to remove these parts , transfer some to other areas, they would if zelensky will throw absolutely everything into the air well, on other tv channels, they continue to tell how they are about to come to kupyansk, but you see such a dissonance suddenly arises, uh, in general, in relation to kharkiv, there are clearly obsessive ideas, and just then they talked about something i had a very interesting conversation with this expert, and in some places it is even funny that we will be in kharkiv. i heard that in order to take kharkiv, for example, a group of 500,000 is needed there.

a powerful additional grouping has not been damaged by long-term battles, which, you know, there are battles going on, that is, all the units are either under attack or they are leading, there are offensive forces and they are trying to attack, we need fresh forces, it turns out that they specially strengthened kharkov, but with other countries, if they don't leave, we can't take kharkov by ourselves, well, look, they're not ready to stay, not from kharkov, or with anyone else, you 're such a surprise, suddenly there were some other thoughts that appeared, and i honestly don't understand why they won't go, well, and looms there as a result, you know, well, certain. i would say well, a dead end. and what to do? and so, in principle, this dead end is not only emerging near kharkov, it is emerging for the russians along absolutely all the front lines

. because nowhere can they especially brag about the fact that they can take something . and this has already affected russian propaganda. well, for example, our central intelligence agency told us that the kremlin approved a new information strategy, which began to spread in the russian media and social networks on august 25, well, practically circle, and now the main one in it is an attack on the brains of the ukrainian population, on military personnel, er, it is precisely within the framework of this strategy that you can now see a bunch of some terrible losses in ukraine called such tsif, only we never even had a war, we simply never had these people on the field battle, how many are called our losses, shouts that everyone is being mobilized , all these talks about the fact that the west is tired and disappointed in ukraine, they literally want to surrender the territory in exchange for peace, that

's all there, and well, i'm not talking about a counteroffensive which failed and in general, all of this is now replicated with the sole purpose of pressuring the psyche to tell because there is no other way to do anything on the battlefield , they rely solely on the psychological factor. the vice, so to speak, is the threshold of sensitivity a-a, for which i simply carried a technical nuance, i want, for which i simply , uh, will not want to, uh, and the party will enter and asked. here at the front. in this situation, it is not even in the zaporizhzhya direction of work. this is what drives them to go to numbers in the army. this is a separate history. this

is the subject of our concern and work . this work has been going on with them for the last few weeks. everyone who has anything to do with this has noticed that they have passively put pressure on the army there, all the cries are to sell, and so on . it was like this last year at exactly the same time. it was all now. it can only be amplified , and you know, with such a kind of literally such a rush, everything goes there and there are some videos. patience, it is heard in almost everyone on the airwaves in different versions , everyone is talking about it, and the second thing is that of course they also began to pressure narodychev, e.e. military personnel, and this pressure is very

strong. russians. for example, it was a rally of relatives of those military personnel who were in the salon or went missing . the organizers did it in order to show the world that we have such a problem. in order to tell that something is being prepared directly and their version was like this, this is the first meeting of this kind, uh , and i think that this was a hook and they are reading our social networks. crochet in repressions will not be applied to these relatives today, literally, and tomorrow, the next rally will be five times more, you know, when it does not affect them, and perhaps it will be the trigger for the shafts for what is it for the wave of protests against

those who will do what who need zelensky stop the war, the war is coming, of course there are forces , of course we have been talking about it for an hour, at what stage will a psychological breakdown occur? they are waiting for this psychological breakdown, which is not coming, but now i repeat it once again, it is literally already some kind of desperate , such a simple content when they only hope for this , that now we will push something will happen, although you know, even against this background, they have transferred their information field to such an extent shouting that even in this information field of theirs there is a reverse effect when, well, there is some kind of disappointment, how come we talk about it and nothing happens

and after that such thoughts begin, jesus pain threshold and so on, let's talk about it. as for the pain threshold, well, that's what the statistics of losses say. well , how much of it can be measured and assumed to be realistic, unrealistic, that is. not wounded, not looking for treated ones, i think from the point of view of the population size that is left to be quite tolerable, and not tolerable, this is how much because of sociologists, what they say in four to five times, that is , conditionally speaking. kletke kogda in every seba yes, and there are angry children in every entrance, and this is not a fact, in fact, and this is not a fact , that is, if speaking in terms of the mobilization potential, it is practically limitless in our country, in general, in the 40s