[000:00:00;00] because you know, i'll give you an example. ruslan and i have already discussed this, and i recently had a teacher's conference before september 1. it was held in dnipro, but it was attended by employees of e-e luhansk education. that is , in fact, these are people who have been displaced twice and in the 14th year they also went to the territory of luhansk region, but unoccupied, and then from the unoccupied territories of luhansk region, when it was already full-scale, they moved to dnipro. well, they were included by zoom e from different ends and the planet, including e because many teachers continue to work remotely and when and when i gave my speech , it was so motivational. i said what we talked about with the president . well, when i said about the long war, i paid attention to the faces in these icons and

zoomed in. they said mrs. natalya, thank you for this truth because we wanted to hear how much more yes , and thank you for not giving us illusions, that 's the main thing that sounded, although i'll be honest with you , my voice trembled when i offered them this truth from the president of ukraine, right? it seems to you that the president still meant what he said that this war is more aimed at the israeli status, that is, that the president honestly said that we will obviously have to live not too sweetly from here on , again, we do not know what will happen with russia there she will share, she will not share verbally, she will not speak, but our relationship is not going to be easy, it is important here that a doctrine of some kind is finally appearing in ukraine, which has not existed in ukraine, and the essence of this doctrine. of course

, we have to consider different scenarios, but this not means that ukraine should not aim to strive for a total victory rather, this image of victory is discussed where it is not fixed, it involves not only the liberation of all territories, the restoration of territorial integrity, but also the creation of conditions under which russia cannot repeat this war for a long period of time in the future, the only way is this to achieve demilitarization or the replacement of the government will not help only the destruction of russia itself, so concrete steps are being taken precisely in the civil society itself from the first days there is media opposition there is work with by the national elites, by the russians, we are working on personal sanctions that are supposed to accelerate the collapse of russia, the request is afraid of this, but in the end, the temporary commission in the verkhovna rada on cooperation with the national elites, it was created by the russians , that is why the ukrainian scenario for the collapse of russia must be there, and we we have to work

on this, because only this will enable the total victory of ukraine, here we are in such a clinch because, for example, our western partners are absolutely convinced that one nation does not have meddling in the internal affairs of another nation, despite the fact that they recognize russia as an aggressor there on all international platforms, and we also need to tell the truth about this, it is unpleasant for us , the national liberation movement, and help tatarstan implement what they, what they voted for in 1991, about independence candidates in poland, they accept the russian diaspora and the so-called refugees, er , players, they accept someone there in the baltics , they accept the peoples of the russian federation and their congresses, but so that they say that we they don’t talk about the collapse of russia, they say they say they’re afraid of it, they don’t have a strategy for this, even individual

analysts, centers are doing analysis, but at the level of the state, it’s not considered as showing the ukrainians and in ukraine, the ruler is from the holiday regime, just like that simplicity implies that er, it means that it is necessary to indicate in the document that this is exactly the plan . yes, we will go exactly there and we will do to them exactly this and that. yes, all powerful states do not exist in the holy simplicity and foreign policy, but it is in such a regime , and a priori israel does not exist there , great britain, for example. and then that they have a zone of interests, this zone of interests

, well, they provide for a permanent work system. and that's why they have it in persian, in arabic. there is no reason that nurduv in pakistan is not broadcast somewhere, and so on and so on. therefore, if we understand that this is our problem is ten years old there should be specialists who can put in tatar, tatar, buryat, and all the rest , and in russian, by the way, including russian, i ask, what’s wrong with that in 14 hale, in reality, in general, so that they’ve already gone further, i know that there are people there at the level of yekaterinburg there, forgive me, what are you reading there and so on, that is, he knows what is there, if the elites, the relevant institutions , must do it, it is possible to work, we must, we must know the enemy’s echo in such a way better than i know the tone, yes, we will understand eh, what kind of messengers will they send there? and with what groups the elite can work with whom can work with whom do you understand and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on

and so on and so on after all, they reflected on natalia's story about this long war and about the reaction of people's teachers . vladimir, what does it mean that we are speaking from the president's mouth? what do we perceive today as a new start, that is, i also liked the fact that he says that he works with his team so that he , er, puts them at the level of micro-management here. interview what is it so we don't get tired today today uh today is a new start here what does it mean that we heard from the president about a long war i think it's right an honest conversation of society because we have uh and it's not a secret there was an expectation of a sincere desire, which was formed in the overestimation of the expectation of a quick one

the end of the war, the quick victory in the end of the war , that we will already be in crimea in the summer, and that we have to suffer a little more, and everything will be a complete victory. constantly after the maidans, after the presidential elections , there are huge expectations already a year later, and before that , huge disappointment because these expectations are quickly realized and people are disappointed, and sometimes so completely. to prepare yes we were preparing well no not a sprint so to the middle distance and now yes we have to run a marathon and this marathon is not only here in a full-scale war eh and eh and eh so when we talk about a long war and so and about the israeli situation here you have to be careful. by the way, because there is a big

difference . israel is dealing with the palestinians and with such home-made missiles. well, there is also iran. yes, which is not yet firing directly at israel. and ballistic in particular, it is firing martyrs, and this is a completely different story. israel in 607 ce and in the early 70s fought with opponents who were defeated and armed according to the latter. by the israeli military expert david gendelvan, who said that at that time israel was all blood and we saw that in these wars, even the current ones, it is still classic military things . they play a role, that is, the number of mobilized against the number of mobilized , the number of artillery against the number of artillery it's just here, if you look at the perspective, i think that society needs to be gradually trained here. look at how we discussed the problem of territorial defense before

the invasion. yes, i'm late. yes, but yes, it 's correct. yes, but it will take a long time. not everything is possible quickly, successfully, but it worked, it worked. even what was done late , but we need to take the next step if we are going to develop within the framework of the israeli model. yes, when there is a constant threat from the north, then the constant work of people. well, how? a minimum of men, i think some of the women should be there, i know there a week or two a year so that people learn how to work with weapons so that they are ready to know where the points where you can gather and so on significantly, when some are fighting and others are resting and not thinking about the war, they have already distanced themselves from the war, this requires serious psychological restructuring, but this work is for the future and now

. the question is that we need to prepare for the current great war, a large-scale war it can drag on. well, we know for a year or two, no one knows how much . and that's what we need to prepare for. well, that's right, the arab war lasted for 8 years. there are several such traps for us. and there will definitely be no positive migration to ukraine. that is, you will have a deterioration of human capital and opportunities, including for conscription, which means that we need to rebuild the entire logic of the country's economy and demography countries and so on. this is the first opinion. the second opinion is what we say. we must be ready for long scenarios, but long

scenarios exhaust whom they exhaust. economy than we are in such conditions, therefore a long war is definitely not in favor of ukraine , and accordingly, the longer we drag on , the more the line is being built, relatively speaking, we know and have already seen it now, if our western partners were decided the problems are not those that have not arisen, but those that may arise, then we could deploy the ukrainian forces on the offensive much faster , accordingly, what i want to say is that being ready does not mean agreeing to this scenario, we must do everything to speed up

ukrainian victory, and this means weapons that should be produced in ukraine. this means not in the horse, in any case not to quarrel with our partners, i do not drink to them, but to strengthen and have more and more partners around the world, eh, third we have to act in a controversial way to take strong steps as the president said to make fundamental changes, including destroying internal corruption , strengthening the production of weapons in the middle of the country, and even now talking about investments, this is returning to the long scenario, the president said that there will be investors, i will not be tsivers , he will not be convinced, he seems to be convinced just like uh when we talked about a quick victory and about kebabs in the crimea . it was necessary. it was an influence on eh, without these promises. we owe you. it was right

. it was done right. i understand why. yes, the president says, but we gave investors investment insurance, maybe big projects are real , maybe we gave them the best conditions for investment. also returning to the test of the president, we need to give them something, give them conditions even now during the war, so that they come now and build now and for this we need to change the logic of building the economy in the state, that is, a long war is not means in the literal sense, this is, among other things, a choice that we will have to make, here is the thesis about crimea, about the dismantling of crimea, it is just that. i would say a special case, such a detail is very important, but in fact we may have to make a very difficult choice, and it is precisely related to e- are our partners who will offer us for a certain time, eh, maybe

we will have to take a peaceful break in order to recover so that investors will come to us, but this threat will always be there, and we need to build the economy, and accordingly, what would helped us to support the necessary military potential, this does not mean war in the literal sense that we will only fight there for years, fight during this pause, we did not all quarrel when it was built, that is, during the pause, and someone was against it, the president said that the thesis about preserving unity is very important yes, because our main enemy, unfortunately, then it will be inside, not outside, but inside. so here it is a problem with an asterisk of preserving unity. yes , and just in the very corner of this problem, which is called the thesis of unity and preservation people of human potential, after all, unlike russia, where women still hurt, we are, after all, a human-centered state . and we are losing human potential, degradation

, depopulation - this is what is really happening in the country, we have very little time left . tell me, please, ears, how many minutes do we have how many 5 minutes? well, the political process will be discussed - everyone literally according to the thesis, because there is very little time and the elections, what do you think? how did the president react to this idea? i am convinced that ukraine is one of the most democratic countries in the world, although it it looks like a joke, but we, er, our maidans, even the president does not like quarrels on facebook. i hate them too, but when there is a hint of corruption or some kind of stupidity, facebook consolidates very quickly and squeezes out stupid ideas like not letting ukrainians out for three years is the director quarreling with someone over his famine , this is this, we are uniting against this quickly, therefore, we should not be afraid

of the political process, we should not be afraid of the reincarnation of old politicians, we should be afraid of the fact that we do not have a competition of ideas there is no broad dialogue with society, and if we can make the political process in the format of a project competition, it would be great. another election process. we can also organize it, but i think that society is not ready for that. stretched and it will simply be turned into some kind of avenger into some kind of quarrel, unfortunately, uh, that's why it's necessary, but it hurts, yes, to an economist, such a thesis, uh, 5 billion uah, where did this figure come from? i think it is this is an estimate, we need to calculate inflation. there is, er. by the way, research on the support, if

i’m not mistaken, they also calculated billions , not dollars, not realistic. the aid was supposed to be there for three or so billions for a few months. during the long war in 70 years, he did not pass how many elections. and in the last two years, he held several elections there, yes, early elections, so ukraine should not depart from the status of a democratic state, and such a situation should be normal for it, that is, in

we must have a toolkit of choice during the war, we must have an economy that works during the war, planning there, culture , the development of culture, all this, uh, what money was not taken out, sentences, that means the facebook society reacted against and and that means on elections 5 yards we are ready because elections are an opportunity to correct mistakes under bullets under bullets yes because if we do not correct mistakes under bullets you are afraid to the first line under bullets an observer is possible and moreover we must organize the process in such a way that people who are -e are at the front so that they will be taken there to some dislocation city so that it will be secured . in this way, who will get into some stronghold where they will vote, e-e will cause opposition from this society and they will say, why don't you you understand, this is a task that we can do, uh, you can vote by action through electronic devices or the palestine

of incorrect russia, because they do not wash like we do, 1,000 uah, a task that cannot be done, this is not a thermonuclear reaction, this is not a thermonuclear reaction. we just have to get used to it . to the point that we need you to make extra-externality real as i briefly, yes , i have already beaten him, yes, briefly, i think that this dilemma is solved quite simply. the acute, intense phase of the war is now chosen at the right time. i think public opinion is also against it, but the president actually formulated the problem, this is an admission, by the way. to think i think that while the question is about whether it will be held there, no, whether to hold presidential elections next year, well , of course, together with parliamentary elections, everything

will depend on the specific military and political situation at that time if the war will be delayed if it becomes less intense in the regime of low intensity, as was the case in donbas after the 15th year, elections will definitely be held then they will have to be held , but the main thing is that i think we need to agree on the rules of how to hold elections in conditions of war so as not to quarrel between by itself, there are questions that need to be formulated , on which we cannot quarrel among ourselves, but we need to formulate a set of such questions , give people a choice between the number of drones and five billion for the elections, then the people will vote unequivocally, look, look a simple example, only optimization, only optimization of management processes in the army, yes, the distribution of funds. it can save 10 billion uah per month 10-15. that is, we 100-150 billion per year only at the expense of well, correctly, in management, we can

use it more effectively for firewood, not for anything, in one word, it turns out that all the tasks defined there and all the problems defined there must already exist in new realities, and we must get used to the fact that we have a new reality and we are in this reality and the economy from your processing and that's all with your help, the president formulated the menu, the menu, the political menu, yes, for the next period, for the new phase of the war, thank you very much for this. thank you, my friends , for watching us and for sharing this dialogue with us. this is not a dispute, we were just simulating the situation. does not mean that someone was for what i hope that i said which is not plus a smart person will understand well, but we

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is eternally alive and new, and in the language of love in battle, like a song, the crack of the dawn, love ukraine with all your heart ours and forever we will be with her 1+1 continues the national telethon at this time we are working in the format of a discussion platform night watch nataliya ostrovska and yevhen plinskyi and today on our broadcast we raised the very important topic of ukrainian refugees according to the eu 4.7 million ukrainians on today we left the country and for a large part of the broadcast we discussed how we will bring these people back home, but today we want to talk about the positive, about strong , talented, independent young ukrainians, how

to raise such a generation, how not to lose the main thing is what you talked about evgeny well, in general, how does the state contribute or not at all to the development of such talents, because we already know such spoilers of our program that every ukrainian invests in the development of talented youth as let's talk at night about children who win international competitions among their we will talk to our peers in the night watch and with us yan starodubets - student of the lviv small academy of sciences, nominee for the global of student price award iryna polishchuk , director of the kyiv small academy of sciences candidate of chemical sciences and bohdan rublyov, doctor of physical and mathematical sciences, professor thank you for visiting yana, let's start with you please tell me what kind of award is the global studen price and how important is its role in the world well, for you too this is the mission to represent

ukraine at such awards tell me in fact, this is an extremely cool award because it gives the opportunity to finance the project. well, in general , the education of students is conditional from all over the world. a student who receives a grant of 100,000 e-e dollars, this is also an extremely cool opportunity for me, although of course at first i do not believe that i will be able to get into the 150, because in fact, i participate in the whole world, but in court i decided to try and the competition is still going on extremely cool participants, everyone helps their society as best they can, because the main goal of this e-e award is to identify those teenagers, those students who have the most influence on their society, these are completely

different continents e-e from europe it seems seven one of the participants, of which i am here and that is why it is of course extremely interesting, extremely cool, cool, cool, part of such a society, with which project of yours did you get there? student from academic achievements to volunteer projects and even to sports achievements, as i have already said, the main goal is the impact on society and it can be completely different. well, for example, for me it is teaching for the first fifth grades and this is a study of sorbents, that is, i wrote a research paper where i first proved that some much more expensive analogs of sorbents that are sold in pharmacies are not more effective than others, because i think that it is really important , especially for the elderly, to save certain funds and not overpay for the brand after moreover, i already tried to synthesize my own adsorbents and it was already more focused

on ecology, that is, it was sorbents that can be used at typical power plants, and of course this is a volunteer activity, i write articles, for example, i try to further enlighten young people, for example, i am taking a course in higher philosophy in america, but we somehow do not have such a thing in ukrainian schools, and this is what i am doing now . for some reason, unfortunately, we do not have this subject, and i am trying to pass on to them the knowledge that ms. iryna receives. we know that yan is a student of the kyiv small academy of science. this is the first time they hear about my mother. i congratulate everyone. indeed, i said that this subject was not included in the school curriculum, but in the small academy of sciences. and i directly head the kyiv small academy of sciences. we really have those subjects that are not

in the school curriculum. i can only list such as cyber security, ethnology, the same philosophy, entrepreneurship, and this is exactly the kind of opportunities that will allow a child to choose his own path, and indeed, i have already mentioned that, and we have such a good reason for which we are proud today and keep our fingers crossed so that ukraine is heard again and we are again associated with victories, because indeed we have many winners in ukraine, we know about the olympic champions, about the european world champions before the new year, i think it can be reminded because we are proud of it, it was in ukraine that for the first time there was a world champion among students, the best students in the world, and it also started a big war, he was also a pupil of the kyiv small academy of sciences, so i hope that this year we will also see

among the winners our young pupil of the chemistry department. well, when a child enters the system of the small academy of sciences, of course we focused primarily on finding out the needs to develop skills and giving the toolkit that will further allow the child to realize himself. therefore, this is a very complex proposal that i want you to use as the largest number of all who are listening to us now. if you have already mentioned the victories of the ukrainians on international competitions of ukrainian schoolchildren, this year there is a team under the leadership of bohdan rublev at the international mathematical olympiad, six ukrainians who took part all returned with awards. well, this event is actually quite

it was inactive in our e-e information network, so i want to talk about it