[000:00:00;00] a tense situation at home, a lot of news is coming from belarus, not only some rockets, planes and everything else have arrived there . and now the news is coming. so, again, these endless military exercises, where to drag the russian brothers, something is going somewhere again, uh, i mean from belarus and on the ukrainian line - of the russian front, well, let's add there, er, hmm, interesting information about what has already been confirmed by the intelligence service of ukraine , about the fact that russian nuclear war stocks are already on the territory of belarus, can you tell us a little more about what to highlight from all this what is a television informational picture, well, belarusian television, i mean these cringe videos when they break some bricks with their heads and then build pyramids. and where there is a real military danger for both ukraine and

belarus, in particular, well, yesterday, september 1 , for one week, they are held in belarus is studying the csto treaty - this is a military treaty in which russia , in particular, participates , belarus, armenia, kazakhstan, and so on. in the south-west of belarus, according to official reports, about two and a half thousand soldiers are participating in them, and not only russians, but there , he said, the state of other countries, although the equipment that the kazakhs did not bring with them , it is not known what the russians use there, or their own equipment or belarusian equipment. in general , the ukrainian sign said that the russians had apparently withdrawn their troops stationed on the territory of belarus at

various training grounds, 3-4 training grounds, they lived in such tent cities for the time being, and the news received by radio liberty, let's say from a satellite image, they show that one of these training grounds where there were tents of russian troops is now gone. there are no tents or troops . that is, they were transferred from the territory of belarus, but there are still on the territory of belarus another e-e lags, as it were, a tent city like this military camp in the village of the target in the mogilev region, there are several thousand at the moment , there is no final information, these are wagner's mercenaries, the so-called wagnerians, i understand, after all , their fate is not clear, lukashenko recently spoke that they will remain here in response to the demands of poland, lithuania, latvia and estonia to withdraw all of these wagners from belarus

. here he answered that it will not be that it is some kind of manya , that is, that they will remain there and will continue , but the facts show that what he says is one thing and that's all - still, these mercenaries go on vacation, then do not return, and their fate no longer depends on lukashenka, but please clarify, just after the negative rise of prigozhin and after thousands of wagnerians from belarus began to disappear what are left? do they participate in all military trainings or not? do they participate in border provocations, but in particular in the lithuanian and polish directions, do they sit in tents, well, in military training ? there is no information about their participation. oh, it was officially reported that they are training the belarusian military there, i don’t know what methods of fighting and so on , because apparently lukashenko appreciates them, that they have a lot of experience, that’s right, but

the required number of such instructors is not very large if they are needed so realistically, what do they do, what do they take provocations, biological provocations at the moment there is such a concern that they can change clothes there and leave together with other migrants because the migrant crisis continues on the borders of belarus with poland, lithuania and latvia dozens or even hundreds of people will try to cross it every day, let's say , who illegally want to cross the territory of belarus with the assistance of the belarusian authorities , and poland and lithuania, which they emphasize, are one from the conditions for some possible improvement of the liberalization of relations, and in the event of an aggravation of the situation with wagner and the situation with this emigrant crisis, they may have announced that a complete closure of the european borders of belarus is possible, that is, a complete blockade at the moment the blockade is so half-hearted because,

let's say, most of the transition the border of poland and belarus is closed. and there is only one for passengers, one for cargo for trucks, and in lithuania , two crossings for passenger e-e means of transportation were recently closed and there is a threat that two more will be closed and maybe in general and maybe in general but well, it all depends on how the situation will develop, but there is a multi-series such and such a story and it started a long time ago and with fresh series it was so that the border guards went somewhere for 5 m and then they returned to their territory and immediately there was a scandal, a scandal, and it’s fresh. this is a polish nato helicopter that flew er into belarusian territory, turned back there , they already summoned the ambassador, and so on , that

’s all there is. is lukashenko's propaganda, is there any real tension not only with migrants, but also with such cases, well, this tension continues why because, uh, the steppe of belarus lukashenko is creating a very dangerous situation uh, on all borders, including through wagner, through nuclear weapons, through that's why poland and lithuania, maybe not to such an extent, because it has less armed forces, nevertheless, poland is pushing new, new, new military groups to the belarusian border to monitor, to react, to control if such incidents occur in the conditions of today's real war. what is happening on the territory of ukraine, they are not of particular importance. you can only have some conversations, talk about some helicopters, some er-e copter just flew and turned or

fell or was shot down, these are so small. in my opinion, incidents that in peacetime maybe it would be of some importance now . no, it's not serious. it's clear, that is, they're just blowing up such an information bubble. it's clear, but there is a greater danger, and we understand that the component here is both military and strategic psychological i am talking about nuclear weapons in belarus, and the head of the main directorate of intelligence of the ministry of defense of ukraine, kyrylo budanov, believes that this is the assessment. yes, he says that he has certain operational and other documents that show that the weapons are there, that lukashenka's troops were trained to work with them, and what not the encouraging results are that they can't deal with those tactical nuclear complexes, the belarusian one is a point in the old one, with such old equipment , one can shoot at the belarusian military, but with a nuke in

the event that they have to be used, then everything is not so good. this is what the chief told us. the chief accepted the intelligence. maybe you know something more about these exercises. where were they drawn up and who, in general, should be working with these weapons? does the belarusian army have to work with russian nuclear weapons, or do they not trust the belarusians? comrades there, as they say, the fsb officers and the russian troops are manipulating them, well, lukashenko says that he will get nuclear weapons there, you know these iskander complexes, which now again a new party has arrived in belarus with about a dozen wild complexes and they can transfer tactical nuclear weapons. is putin really going to give or use lukashenko? it's hard to say. i wouldn't guess on this topic. it's more likely that there is a danger . journalists and intelligence agencies of many

countries, primarily western countries and ukraine, are watching this. where there were many conversations on this topic, seven announced that lukashenko had already arrived, they confirmed all this, if informational psychological such a company to intimidate the west to intimidate ukraine, such it happened and continues further as to whether they are studying or have learned what are the peculiarities in the belarusian military will use nuclear weapons, well, it's hard to guess, i don't think it's very difficult here - it's difficult because they will probably study with the russians and all that . that is, it's not a question of training, it's a question of decision, it's a question of determination, it's a question of a specific situation. lukashenko says that it can be used in the event of an attack on the territory of belarus , well, i do not predict such an attack. well, we remember, i will now show you where the attack on belarus was supposed to be, well, that is, you can also

simulate an informational one, but just even if we recall theoretically this and the story in the case of, for example, an idiotic decision and let’s er-e shoot somewhere and theoretically, for example, lukashenko says well, i’m against a-a and putin says i’m in favor of who will actually implement and launches for how much lukashenko generally controls, for example making such a decision, when it diverges from putin's ideas, he will be able to stop a criminal order or another. can you already? well, you know, the situation is quite complicated, i would say so in this plane, but anyway, no matter what , military officers, generals and to the specific soldiers of the belarusian army, they are not subordinate to putin, they are subordinate to alexander lukashenko, only he is responsible . if putin gives an order, lukashenko does not support them, they have no right, and i do not know what will happen next, whether they will take a risk or not

, so i still uh, i would say that if the final lukashenko has to say the word. well, you see, we would have believed in ourselves too if there was no such option, and prigozhyn's three-pointed take-off because the guarantees. well, we have ears, we have eyes , we heard how lukashenko promised him in this prigozhyn bunkhouse guarantees of life and freedom yes, as a result, they say but i didn't promise him anything now, i promised him a place in belarus well, i didn't say anything about life that is, the price of lukashenka's word that is, why do you think that it will be here the last word is not in the same style well here i am rehearsed well, at least according to the information that went out immediately after the suppression of this rebellion in russia, there was no such thing as lukashenko guaranteed on the entire territory of russia, based on the fact that come to belarus you will be safe there , this really said that he among himself they we talked now, well, it's hard to say, but it's no longer the

person he was talking to, and god later, if he did say any guarantees, he didn't say lukashenko on his own behalf in all the negotiations, because he would have already been a mediator, that is, he said what he was asked by putin to tell him, because he would have such a position, that is, he could not solve this issue, and lukashenko was only a mediator , so in fact, lukashenko's dimension of the word is security. well, that's it. it's so flexible and very different. we don't have much time. until the last minute, but there are, as they say, two scandals, one good and the other good , this is when lukashenko's athletes and putin's athletes realized that they will not even go to the asian games because the international olympic committee decided so, and this is both positive and negative - this is an absolutely wild story. when, in fact, in a beautiful suit , the russian ambassador of belarus was invited to a banquet in stockholm on the occasion of the awarding of the nobel prizes, well, in reality, that is, even a year ago, they were not

invited as representatives of the military criminal regimes, and here they suddenly invited your brief comment on this matter. on this matter, there are already protests by representatives of the belarusian opposition and representatives of one of the main laboratories of the nobel peace prize winner , oles belyansky, who is now in prison and to whom it is difficult even to transfer medicine to this prison that is, what can be said here , a nobel laureate will sit in prison, and the ambassador of belarus, lukashenka, is there at the banquet , this is a very, very improbable situation, i think that international pressure will change this new decision of the rila committee, that is, there is actually hope for external pressure, because inside the whitebeards, this is simply an expressed position, but some well , it will definitely not be right for her to address victory with the nobel committee, we can all negotiate, of course, thank you very much for

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anton borkovsky nayspresso so we return to studio eh and as we promised you, we will now communicate with the head of the luhansk regional military administration from 19 to 23, this position was held by serhiy gaidai, he is in touch with us, mr. serhiy , glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, i congratulate you, sir sergey, i will start right away with the fact that well, we all know that in fact luhansk has the largest territory of occupation out of the ukrainian regions , and at the same time, this direction also looks very hot from the front line, but we know that it is not the first day that they are trying to break through the ukrainian defense of the new yehoriv direction. maybe you can tell us a little more about what exactly is happening in the luhansk section of the front these days. well, it

's really hot in the luhansk region right now, and in the literal sense, in the figurative sense, they also brought in a huge number of personnel and the enemy's artillery creates a huge difficulty, because, taking into account the intensity with which the positions of our defenders are shelled, we understand that with the ammunition they have, unfortunately, everything is fine , because the shelling is conducted for four and sometimes up to 6 hours -e certain positions, well, that is, they level everything absolutely, and any defensive structures can’t withstand eh in this mode there for a week or two and everything will, well, in any case, be broken , because even if they don’t shoot accurately , something flies up, they pulled it up in the first place it

the zed storm is fighting somewhere behind the people of akhmativ, still behind, there are military personnel who are sometimes connected and we also sometimes see the so-called espanyol. that is, these are the 30,000 ultras football fans who are currently distributed between kharkiv donetsk and luhansk in the direction of er. well, this is not very unexpected, but in principle, such a resource appeared among the rashists, well, we laughed with a bunch of horse people, a little bit of fans, you understand that they would still very much like to push the front line somewhere up to the oskil river from kyiv reservoirs, but who will succeed, but look, i just want us to be able to show the audience interesting things, but two days ago, in luhansk, we can see how beautifully enemy equipment was destroyed, and a rather unique one,

in particular, a target detection station, this is a dome we are now showing the e-e launch-loading unit zrk m-m 9k-37 well , the zrk buk is probably still worth it, god willing, that is, but even here it is not important how our units, you e-e intelligence and special forces destroy this equipment, but what its specification that is, there of expensive iron . i understand that the enemy has raised a lot of e-e. if there are no problems with bk, then they also have no problems with such important expensive things, or how ? it is not even new , it was discovered that more than a thousand units of equipment were accumulated in the luhansk region. of course, this equipment is just now, uh, luhansk is more or less relatively the main

logistics center, and they further uh, from here distribute the equipment in the luhansk direction and in the donetsk region, in the kupyan region, in the kharkiv region, but we saw very different equipment in our country, eh. well, even the t-90 breakthrough is not so common. this is unity, a modern russian tank, and they see it. quite often further eh heavy tank support equipment is that terminators plus rap quite powerful eh raider complexes and if earlier we thought that armor is such a cool eh cool tool cool equipment then we have something even cooler eh there were already examples recently, the general staff showed how the complexes cost, well, almost eight times more expensive than

armored personnel carriers, that is, under 200 million dollars , so we have something like that right in the luhansk direction, because rapeseed is really very powerful and it is very disturbing, it is not a panacea for our pilots but all the same, it really interferes with work, mr. serhii, one very interesting moment, i have a friend who was born in staro bilsha, yes, you know him, they know all of ukraine. transfer starobilsk novoaidar this territory as they say the cossack land and in the north of luhansk region we know absolutely the positions and moods of the local population there that have been since the beginning of the war but how is it now because these days in the occupied territories an absurd comedy called elections is played here as

a local the population, in particular, there in the north of luhansk region, how do they cope with those elections, and to what extent, in general, and finally , in the territory of the occupied luhansk region, people got involved in pseudo-elections . despite the fact that, of course, after a year and a half of war well, you know, people who are actively pro-ukrainian are residents of these territories. they are, after all, under the pressure of the occupiers and collaborators, is it possible? well, not their perception on the physical level of this atmosphere. all the more so that, unfortunately, there is a very widespread story about , well, you know, the neighbors are scumbags, they simply even point a finger at

the neighbors who are pro-ukrainian, and then they can be taken somewhere and taken out by someone even returns despite this all no looking at the complete lack of democracy and such flagrant war crimes, you know, people are often found tortured and killed in forest strips , despite the lack of a ukrainian signal. all the same, people remain loyal to ukraine , all the same, they are waiting for de-occupation, all the same, they are doing something in order not to go to those elections, and somewhere partisans are putting up leaflets to cry, but recently, literally the day before yesterday, i

published the partizan work on his page, so everywhere, starobilsk, navidar, e.e., rubizhne, severodonetsk, everywhere they spread these leaflets. and this is deadly dangerous, that is , there is still a huge percentage of people who really simply do not have the opportunity to leave for one reason or another, but they are waiting for their return, e.e. ukrainian in this territory is temporarily occupied, but at the same time involved , let's say, young ukrainians who fate has so determined that they actually grow up and go to school during this occupation by the sumy with textbooks and what it looks like. that is, children like that go to russian schools, or are there still some children who do not go and maybe somewhere there they are trying the internet, there was some kind of online channel, although there is a channel in connection with ukraine i can't imagine this about myself, that's why i want you to tell me what it looks like in general, this is a huge problem of ours, our

pain, because really, even at the beginning of the russian occupation, the occupation authorities and their collaborators helped them, they simply took away ukrainian textbooks they withdrew from school libraries, village libraries, literature that is printed in ukrainian and even if in russian, but these are textbooks there, for example, on the history of ukraine , such a normal history, and not that putin history, where lenin invented in ukraine , everything was removed from it, and as in 39- last year, the nazis did, they simply put them together somewhere in the center of the yard and burned them, they say now listen, they have already become russian students in principle . it turns out like this in recent years. ukrainian programs are connected and passed . i know this for 100%.

because uh sometimes i just even receive um uh certain uh messages there are messages from local residents who stayed in the occupied territory uh they sometimes ask for help in connection or maybe in one or another direction uh what to do about the children, well, that is, not everyone is fully involved and not everyone has been completely washed in the city, we must fight for the children, and especially after the deoccupation, this will be one of our main goals, we have the last minute, serhiy we saw how ours worked out quite clearly and there was cotton in the distant physical myrny luhansk, as it was believed that the mood changed after the cotton blossomed already in luhansk, which is far from the front line, well, first of all, this is a good powerful signal

that the native is breaking -e rashitsky about the fact that russia is here seriously and for a long time and forever , but people understand that it is not forever at all, it is the first and the second, after all, they see the difference between rashitsky's propaganda and what is happening in reality local residents clearly understand that where there is cotton, there are military targets and not civilian objects . we will sum up at least this morning, it was good especially for bini kolomoisky , which we have already talked about, we congratulate odessa and sums , two heroic cities in them, today is city day , be careful, but we congratulate you. well, we

will meet with you, i will pass the baton watch espresso verdict and serhiy rudenko glory to ukraine, this is a verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko i greet everyone and wish everyone good health today in the program so i become more frequent and goals more interesting after the raid of drones near moscow , factories that produce electronics for missiles and in the crimea were on fire is approaching how to make the peninsula unusable for defense customers we are again being warned about a hard winter has ukraine prepared for possible russian attacks on critical infrastructure on the threshold of the cold war or will russia decide to unleash a direct military conflict with nato , we will talk about this and other things today for the next hour with three of our guests: former battalion platoon commander aidar yevgen wild diplomat oleksandr hara and