[000:00:00;00] we want to survive as a nation, we will stand up for our country for our territory, and in my opinion this is a key distinguishing factor, which will not allow us to lose, no matter how many difficulties we have to face, everything has been destroyed, all the pipes have been cut in that area behind the temporary sector, there is already light if the occupiers they did not try to intimidate ukrainians. it was difficult to make a hired system very scary. thank god that you came . thank you, hammer

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our tomorrow watch the saturday political club what on saturdays on espresso it was chopped and chopped there it is really tough dynamically bloody cold the battle is more brutal than this one day the battle started and it was endless people stopped noticing what day of the week today is how long we have been here the fact that the enemy lacked ammunition as they said we did not feel it at all they flowed like water, that is, where it turns out hmm flow there and directed with theirs was actually very difficult it gave an opportunity to win time there will be no

people left in ukraine who will not be affected by this war battle for bakhmut at the moment the largest local confrontation not only during russia's invasion of ukraine, but also in europe since the second world war. in today's issue of donbas realia, we will talk about this and also about western and soviet tactics with a ukrainian officer , a graduate of the us army command and staff college, pavel palisa, commander 93 of a separate mechanized brigade that defended bakhmut at the height of the battles for the city since february of this year , after graduating from the lviv academy of ground forces, you then studied at

the american command and staff complex as so it turned out. how did you get there? i was serving as the head of the operational department of the 58th brigade, and uh, one of the employees, one of my colleagues, uh , i got a telegram with a list of courses with requirements for candidates and so on, i'm serious about that didn't actually go there well put it put me there somewhere and i was actually very surprised it was well it must have been some element of luck or something so i know you met a full-scale war there in the states can you remember that day that morning what did you

do how did you find out generally about what a full-scale war began, yes i can and i will definitely not forget this day, but on february 23, in the well of verkhov the great, i had the honor of presenting ukraine as my native state to all college students. i had been preparing for it for a long time before that the standard program for foreign students is called the new world every year they select from all candidates from all students who wish that year there were 72 72 applications me too if something well i heard well i don't know how it happened i just felt that i well i can do it yes that's it on february 23, i spent

this is a 45-minute briefing. he told us about our native country, about where we are, how we are, what we are, how cool it is in our cities, according to our tradition, about our national identity , about our history . why you should not confuse ukrainians with russians . i came home in the evening, cooked dinner, and the time difference is 8 hours, that is, just as i opened my laptop while watching the news, i came across putin's address where he announced a special military operation , well, that's how i found out that the war had actually started, you headed the fifth assault division regiment this was one of the first units

of the assault regiment created in ukraine. yes, why the assault regiment and how did you personally select people there, how was the procedure at the very beginning of its formation, it was not an assault regiment, but uh, on this unit even then in the future, it was determined that they would be entrusted with tasks of an offensive nature , respectively, and there were changes to the staff, and it was already being formed as an assault unit, and the criteria for selection were primarily the motivation of patriotic young people citizens are aware of what they are doing, what they are here for, and so on , the organizational core itself, yes, 90% was selected, well , personally, later, when the deadlines were tightened

, and due to the lack of time, no it was always possible to pay attention to everyone, but in most cases, when the mobilized were brought in, they gathered in the assembly hall , uh, i talked, i talked, the chief of staff told us what tasks await us in the future . are people ready for this? what tasks did the fifth assault regiment perform , because then mostly defense was war at the beginning of the war, the first tasks of the fifth separate assault regiment were also of a defensive nature in it was the end of the second half of june in the lysychansk district of the lysychansk oil refinery in severska, it was the first combat experience of the e-e regiment as a combat organization, and for many it was also the first combat experience and baptism of fire at the same time when you were appointed as the commander of the 103rd

brigade, it is conditional, we call it an experienced and old unit, and the statement that it does not run under pressure has been established when you went and led it felt the responsibility to continue these glorious traditions even in those extremely difficult conditions in which we had to worry. well, of course, every military body , every unit is a team with its own traditions , its own internal culture, its own atmosphere, and each serviceman moving from unit to unit somewhere , surely such easy we feel goosebumps one hundred percent, but well, it is a great responsibility and at the same time an honor to be a part of this collective of this team, in general

, somehow you manage to get a unit controlled and, most importantly, effective even in extremely difficult circumstances, because during the war there were different situations and to one degree or another everyone had to retreat there, leave , etc. that is , it is a big collective work of everyone, it starts from the soldier and ends with the commanders of different levels for you personally, the main stages of the battle for bakhmut, if you list them, the first stage - this is probably the period when the brigade actually entered bakhmut. this was the second entry of the brigade into

bakhmut. before that, the one and a half month period was for the restoration of combat capacity. that is, it was already the second rotation in the bakhmut direction of the brigade. the difficult period was just while everything was getting back on track, people were getting used to the new difficult conditions, and the second period was probably an active defense on the eastern bank of the bakhmutka river. well, i would say that the third stage is when the fighting already started in a multi-level residential building, as in general it was difficult to plan the defense of the city, because the people on the streets are afraid. yes, there is such a specific element of war, and there in israel, in the states , people are specially trained. this is exactly how the specifics of the battles go. somehow, people had to get used

to how difficult it was, because this is not a field, it is completely different, in fact, it was very difficult the guys are fighters and they invested and worked hard, well, it was worth a titanic effort, this is actually the entire period when the entire period for me personally, the entire period of the defense of bahmut it was like, well, one day the battle began and he was without end, i would even say that after a certain period, even people stopped noticing what day

of the week it is today, how long have we been here, and with such a plan, it was really difficult. a small house, it was hacked, hacked, there was a really tough guy wagner , it's interesting to hear your point of view, because you directly crossed paths with them in battle, if compared with the russian army in general, my personal point of view wagner, in general, as fighters, is very effective and the enemy’s inconvenient balance of forces during the battle of bakhmut is in the artillery, there in the equipment, in the people, what did you have to stop with, the enemy lacked ammunition, as they said, hmm, we didn’t feel it at all

, but the enemy worked effectively, the tactics are nothing fancy, but they are effective somewhere flowed like water, that is, where it turns out to flow there and directed for their own, in principle, everything is logical, er, there was simply no such impression that the whole i understand that all of them forces then conditionally pulled everything under bakhmut but it is possible, and in the very place, the 93rd brigade opposed all this unreal force there, for the sake of justice, i would like to note that not only the 93rd brigade opposed wagner in bakhmut, but we replaced another brigade that before that -e fought in bakhmut and e-e for a certain period e-e held the defense together with the national guard brigade of the third brigade

of the national guard e-e and attached units there were also units there and e-e gura there were units of territorial defense and there were other separate subdivisions which for what were those er-e for sure? well, there were also some partly first combat experience. and yes, and another one, you can describe the battles for the city in that period in three words. how would you write about and during the battles for bakhmut dynamically bloody cold bakhmut became like that a measure of the intensity of the war for ukrainian society , how do you feel about it and what do you think of these battles in general

? fun, a difficult question. i think the battle of bakhmut is currently the most brutal battle of this war and probably the most brutal battle in europe since the end of world war ii war and life showed that the occupation of bakhmut in general, russia did not give anything in terms of operational strategy, why did they need it from your point of view? i think it is more symbolic for them. bakhmut was important from the point of view of propaganda. probably , yes, it is more of a symbol, but as a result, the russians destroyed the battles for bakhmut, they destroyed a beautiful city, we will definitely

have it, what is the significance of this operation for us at my level, where i can give some kind of assessment, of course, i think , eh. uh use your reserves and give the armed forces of ukraine the opportunity to prepare newly created units to provide them with e-e weapons , equipment and proper training. enemy units are located in the very place, they are conducting the defense, they occasionally try to increase

the activity of this defense, but at the moment all attention is focused on the flanks of bakhmut , many experts speak for analysts about the fact that russia does not currently have large reserves, not even operational ones, what do you see in your direction? i understood that on the flanks , conditionally, they are currently defending themselves there in the area of ​​the verkhov reservoir and the ticks, but how actively are they trying to advance in your direction, every day the enemy is trying to counterattack e- in any case, the enemy cannot be underestimated, no matter what reserves they have there, the very resource base of the operative is extremely powerful. that is why we need to prepare for confrontation and further

times of positional warfare, the line of contact was there, well, a constant aesthetic for years, but how is the front line changing now, even if there are places where it is called static . maybe you have an example from experience when this position changed hands many times without significant changes in the line in the end, from my experience well, the first thing that came to mind was the battles for majorsk, and in the fall of the 22nd there was a platoon stronghold consisting of three positions. doctrine conditionally nato doctrine with let’s call it the russian-soviet a-a that is currently used by ukraine. what do you think in this line, an even more western model is definitely more western model, it is aimed more at

efficiency than at than purely at quantity and at the resource base you already have experience and a well-coordinated unit, what do you think ? how much has the effectiveness on the battlefield changed, if absolutely every unit, every brigade received new western artillery, there are new tanks, new bmps, and so on, how much did it add it would be cool to lie about the efficiency in ours, it would be cool first of all - it motivates the fighters oh cool we got a modern combat vehicle oh cool we have a modern gun and besides the safety of the bradley combat vehicle everyone has already heard how it has proven itself, well, that is, the degree of protection, the degree of squeezability survival on the battlefield is much more than samples

of soviet equipment. of course, this has a positive effect on the fulfillment of the task of preserving the life of ambition, which is the biggest problem, but the problems on the battlefield right now for the ukrainian military, as you think from your point of view, of course, as a brigade commander, hmm, the necessary amount of ammunition must be carried out to increase countermeasures by the enemy's unmanned aerial vehicle, fp-fanned in the fight against the enemy's eukalized ones . no for promises sure there well er training training training and training

is not enough for any training commander it just doesn't happen it will be a long time, what from your point of view should we do now in order to win in this, the first thing every citizen should realize is that there will be no people left in ukraine who will not be affected by this war, a powerful enemy with whom we have been fighting for more than a century, it will be possible to stop it only with joint efforts. well, at least you know approximately how long the war can last

, at least this hot active phase now , considering that we will discover that it has been with us for more than one hundred years, i would not take the active phase as a forecast will continue for a while well, i still won't give it right the battle for bakhmut tentatively began at the beginning of august last year and continues to this day, the russian army was able to occupy the city at the cost of colossal losses in people and equipment only

by turning it into a fireground and while military analysts argue about its strategic importance bahmut for jesus, taking advantage of the exhaustion of the enemy's forces, they themselves went on the offensive in this part of the front, these were the donbas realities my name is igor loginov, see you soon , you want to wake up rested and full of strength but from the old mattress the whole body hurts all the time and you can't find a comfortable position on the sofa, you need to improve your sleeping place meet the new product from the experts mattress tv mattress stopper kasper ortholight instant solution to the problem of an uncomfortable sofa or an old mattress at a good price of only 999 uah

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