[000:00:00;00] the law has been signed, we expect that the venice commission will submit proposals to the international expert group and this process is starting. that is, it follows from what you said to ms. olga that we will already have time to fulfill most of the conditions correctly. this means that these are only certain steps within the framework of those conditions and these conditions are there, i would say that the conditions themselves are certain steps within the framework of structural changes in the state, because if we are talking about the issue of national minorities, you know very well that this is quite sensational the issue is with some a-a countries and this process and the settlement of these problematic issues, in particular in the educational process

, it will be long. it cannot be evaluated on the scale of six months or a year ago. the tasks and the law were praised and we received the conclusion of the venice commission, we implemented it , we expect that the parliament will adopt the relevant changes, and we held more than 20 consultations with national minorities, today we are preparing a state program, but this process is definitely not will end even when the negotiations begin, therefore, in the seven recommendations, all the steps that we need for communication with the member states are carried out and will be carried out by october of this year unequivocally. can you imagine the closing of all these sections that we have to go through, relatively speaking well, i wonder how long it will take for the negotiations to begin. they will continue. i would say that the negotiations are the simplest process with those that are expected of us are on the way to membership, yes, after membership, because this is the process

of implementing already existing standards of eu practice. and we are very helped by the fact that today this year marks 10 years since we signed the association agreement and began to implement the actual government team completed the screening of the legislation and today we have determined that almost 2000 rules of the eu standards have been implemented in our legislation - this is almost 10 times more than was provided for by the association agreement itself from the entire scope of obligations that are usually undertaken by member states, we need to implement a sufficiently small amount in order to be a competitive member of the eu, therefore , from a technical point of view, within the next two years, the prospect of closing the negotiations is absolutely realistic, but there are definitely political factors associated with a-a full-scale war that

is ongoing for today, the terms of ukraine's accession to the european union and these decisions, of course , depend on ukraine's progress, but they have a very large geopolitical context, and even today you hear that when it comes to we are talking about ukraine, we have also spoken with almost ten other states, and we hope that while ukraine will do its homework, we will also find a general consensus on the political conditions of eu enlargement, you have already noted that the issue of national minorities is a sensitive issue. this is clear. we even specifically we understand which country we are talking about. however, what do you think is the most difficult of the demands placed on us and which are based on the truth ? do you agree that it is probably the anti-corruption reform because, given the

messages we have recently, we almost every day someone from the military and from the officials is accused first of all of corruption and on a large scale, and actually i would also pay attention to the blog that deals with anti-corruption reform, because actually when the european commission determined at the beginning of the decision on the granting of candidate status to ukraine recommendations , they related exclusively to the appointment of heads of anti-corruption bodies, and there is sufficient progress in anti-corruption investigations at the same time, and in fact , the implementation of this recommendation even in the conditions started a war completely restarted the work of anti-corruption bodies a and e actually we are for ourselves well, how politically yes as politicians have chosen a strategy of zero tolerance for any cases therefore e today we see a large number of dismissals and systemic investigations e-e that take place due to individual cases that

are identified by anti-corruption bodies , of course, again, this is block a, which is impossible to complete. or to say that ukraine has completely overcome corruption is a continuous process, and for us, this recommendation actually is the most important, because it is definitely a question of trust in the state, transparency of the functioning of the state, and financial support for ukraine, in particular , in the process of recovery also depends on this, but primarily financial support for ukraine is connected with the survival of our state during the period of a full-scale war. of course, this is the most important and the most difficult block, where we should not formally approach its implementation, we should first of all build trust in us as a state, in state institutions, and this is

much more systematic and complicated than simply let's say that we pass laws and put political ticks. and tell us about the beginning of bilateral relations, these difficulties that we now have there from poland. i'm not talking about the difficulties with hungary. how come there are no such difficulties in hungary? there are probably certain difficulties from the point of view of the block in history that they occupied, and from poland it is really very unpleasant, kevins, and it is related to the restrictions on the grain expert in poland of grain crops in poland and, at the instigation of poland, four more eu countries to impose such restrictions, this is an unpleasant case for ukraine, for the european union, because these countries did not have the right, but the constitutional right according to their legislation , to praise such decisions, and of course for our agricultural market

, this is a very personal decision. that we all know how the country survives in the conditions of war and that in fact the eu countries are not in fact, but in fact the countries are, this is the only direction of the realization or export of products, we started to draw conclusions from such decisions that really friendship friendship, we have a lot of good projects with poland, there are a lot of them where they support us, but such unfriendly actions will still take place and we have determined that we actually need to develop other corridors, other capabilities . today, we are working in klin on the danube corridor to build a border customs -e infrastructure with romania with romania e -e baltic direction legal countries and this is a lesson for ukraine because we have to find e not only revive

, rebuild, rebuild and improve european standards, but also rethink our place on the map of europe is geopolitical and economic and this place should be mutually acceptable both for ukraine and for our neighbors and in general for the balance in europe, this is a good lesson for us, but i think that for poland it is also a case where they will draw conclusions and understand that in a strategic perspective , the conditions necessary for the survival of ukraine force us to quickly develop alternative export corridors, which will actually be the main trade arteries after the war and the restoration of peace in europe, and it is obvious poland does not want to be on the side of those countries that did not take advantage of this opportunity, so we hope that the restrictions will not be extended after september 15, instead

, the huge funds and compensation that poland received will be directed to the development of solidarity corridors and the deployment of additional capacities for transit of products and what are the chances that they will not continue restrictions at least unilaterally these decisions this decision is adopted by the european commission because as a member of the european union the country refuses the trade policy, it is the sovereign authority of the european union, therefore the european commission will make decisions , we meet almost every week in the format of the appropriate coordination platform, we have assurances about several things, firstly, that no statistics or data confirm or confirm threats to the european union market, in fact, the second which follows from the first one that there is no expediency in such restrictions. of course, a country can impose unilateral restrictions, but this

will inevitably lead to two things. first, it will be the legal process of the european union against poland and it will be the arbitration process of ukraine against the european union regarding the violation of the association agreement. well , the eu's internal treaties, and the third. of course , this is the deprivation of funding. on the rules, not election processes and for us, this is basically a normal story, and moreover, i want to draw attention to the fact that polish colleagues are very actively monitoring my public statements on this issue. i want to draw the attention of colleagues who will listen to us, namely, ukrainian farmers have already signed an appeal to the leadership of the european institutions and to these countries, in which they themselves confirm that transit through this territory is a priority for them and that they

are ready to independently prioritize exports outside these countries. i think that under such conditions , there are no political chances to continue these restrictions. well, i actually wanted to ask you so much at this moment as much about what if the neighboring countries will impose conditions on us during the negotiations like this it happened, let's say, from north macedonia, and at first the conditions were set, then bulgaria, it can be said that the process of negotiations did not start to the end, because north macedonia all the time depends on how its european integration will be perceived by its neighbors, it happened and it is very important, but you just understand what is this, it's a bell, a signal, it's connected to each other, it's not just like that, you know. and this will inevitably happen. i would really like to say that

there will be no such cases in ukraine, and there are. well, such an expression is nothing personal, just business likewise, membership in the eu is very serious, and along with homework, every step forward will require a political decision. why do we focus so much on the opening of negotiations because the opening of negotiations is the last let's say a purely political decision that can be adopted at the level of leaders, then there will be negotiations , it will be an assessment of specific areas, and it will all be a very pragmatic, long process, but we will be able to start it only after passing the blocs of fandamentos, and of course the countries will be express their positions a-a with regard to national minorities, some countries especially seriously monitor blocs related to the rule of law, and some countries er-er other issues er-er, but i

believe that based on how previous decisions were praised er-er, more applicants apply every year other countries become hostages because they want to make a decision regarding ukraine, which does not create grounds for not opening negotiations or not recognizing progress based on the recommendations of other countries that , let's say, actively advocate the interests of the western balkans or other countries in europe make them hostages of decisions regarding ukraine, it's more such contexts. and in fact, already in december of this year, we will see how it happens . in fact, i would also like to draw such attention to vitaly on such a moment, he is very interesting , it will be easier for us in a certain way, because ah, on us too moldova and georgia, moldova, which follows ukraine, is based on ukrainian progress, and the decision in

the european union is held in a certain way by the package, and today we must realize that ukraine is not in a group of countries, but ukraine is the country that is followed by two more countries, and in fact, not making a decision on ukraine will also mean not making a decision on georgia and moldova , so in a certain way we are stronger here, because our zeal let's say this very seriously. it is very interesting what kind of rhetoric our diplomats and representatives of the eu have towards hungary, what statements they hear because they are blocking the allocation of funds to us and in general are putting many obstacles on the way to the european union, well, again, we absolutely we realistically perceive that hungary has chosen its side

in historical perspective yes in history and actually it is very difficult to change, we pay attention to the fact that most of the decisions and which require hungary's approval are made either on on the site of the european union or on the site of the un or on the site of nato, and here it is actually up to the allies themselves to find arguments to convince them, and we see today that , after all, we have 11 packages of sanctions, we have a huge program of macro-financial assistance and the decision on ukraine's membership in nato was made on the basis of freedom itself, and this means that together with our ally, we always found arguments that allow us to reach solutions, and maybe hungary does not have such strong positions that would allow them to block certain issues as it was back in the days when only crimea

was annexed and the war was a hybrid let 's put it this way ms. olga thank you very much for participating in our broadcast olga stefanishyna , deputy prime minister for european and euro-atlantic integration was with us on communication and now natalya plaksienko, an expert on issues of east asia from butyr, is in touch with us and we will start with the upcoming meeting of the twenty-somethings , i remember a lot of quite interesting events here is why we congratulate you here is why in your opinion here is why in your opinion president putin will not go to the twenties themselves, when he did not go to the brics, it was possible to understand that the south african republic had ratified the rome statute and there were certain warnings from the pretoria itself so that vladimir putin was not there and vladimir putin could think that suddenly if this of course explained everything, but india is not the country that criticized the roman statutes, vladimir putin was not

threatened by anything in new delhi, he could show that he is not isolated, authoritative, why he did not go to india, he does not feel so certain that he did not go to zero he will not be able to show himself, in any case, the g20 includes a number of countries of the western trend , which in any case will not politely greet putin. he will have to and had to talk about the war and not about pleasant topics for him actually, nothing special is good for putin. he does not wait accordingly and makes such decisions. in addition, you and i will now be faced with a certain fear of putin before visits. as you can see, there was talk for a long time about the fact that putin is visiting turkey and everything seemed to be resolved, but he is still did not go to turkey and president erdoğan is going to visit him and the only supposedly confirmed visit so far

is a visit to china in october this month this year, well, we will see with you how brave putin will be in general for foreign visits and actually speaking, he will be more comfortable in china during this period, after all, because, first of all, there will be mainly countries that maintain neutrality, and western countries have not confirmed their visit to date, that is, putin is not comfortable and after all, he does not go there where he does not feel that he will not be slapped, despite the fact that he is actually guarding . there will be 130,000 law enforcement officers and anti-aircraft defense deployed. everything will be very serious . he just doesn't want to talk to the western leaders. as

you said, it came as a surprise to me that he is not planning to visit the g20, but to visit the g20. in fact, it's about shame. let's take a look at the visits he made . for the third time after the autumn congress for the first time he headed the party in the fall during this time you all women don't have many visits e this e visit to central asia kazakhstan uzbekistan summit something in the last year visits to the persian gulf countries a trip to russia e trips to bricks and e last year's trip to the big 20, as we see it, visits to such large venues where it was important to resolve certain issues after the congress, it was important to go and make such a diplomatic

visit, a nod, a march in relation to his new re-election well, plus, the country was closed for a long time due to covid, and he did not make a single visit for this reason, and no one inquired about him, that is, he needed to establish diplomatic relations in those places that he was interested in. what about the big twenty? - the first is the relationship india and china are not simple, and literally at the brics, the two leaders for the first time since the 20th year, and after the difficult border skirmishes, they discussed the fact that from now on they will solve all their border issues peacefully. well, in a few days , china will literally print a map on which he er-e depicts the territory of india as his own . that is, this issue is not a simple one between the two countries, plus, as far as we

know today, it is not only that the g20 is not an accomplice in connection with the russian aggression against ukraine. will block this decision, well, china will still be uncomfortable at this summit, because in any case it does not support the position of the majority of western countries, and accordingly , everyone obviously does not want to once again show about this pro-russian neutrality and once again listen to, for example from the leaders of the western countries that he should influence russia somehow of the prime minister well, it is obvious that

he does not see any such priority tasks at this summit either, and maybe this is happening because he does not want to go to india once again to meet with prime minister mindi because the relations between india and china do not look good, one of the reasons is also the owner, as i said, that they talked to each other at brics, that is, the leaders of the countries do not completely ignore each other, but still india is a country where china, the chinese president would like to once again implement visits e it is really so because the relations between the countries are not simple , and not because these issues are of a territorial nature. they are still in such a very suspended state, as far as we know , on the border from time to time these clashes take place accordingly. of course, in rendra fashion, he as the country that receives er. he should pay attention to each of the leaders to negotiate, well, obviously, this small

dialogue on brics is enough because, strictly speaking, there is nothing to discuss yet for two countries whose main issue is a territorial dispute. and what will it contain then in the communique based on the results of the meeting, if lavrov has already stated that he will not sign everything related to everything that will be against russia , it will be clear. will there be any general phrases again? maybe, but there is such a probability that there will be no commissars at all. the fact is that india, er, had great ambitions regarding this summit, wanting to be a country that represents the interests of the global south, and of course it had the opportunity to make this summit more productive. but the reluctance to get involved in the russian-ukrainian war, well, considering

even the position of india, which is also neutral although she repeatedly voiced the phrase that she advocates for peace and in a rendering fashion, during a meeting, for example, with volodymyr zelenskyi in hiroshima, he said that he would do everything that depends on him to achieve peace, but india did not do this, moreover, in a certain way, it distanced itself from the invitation of our president and from the active discussion of the consequences felt by the world due to russian aggression and, accordingly, at the previous summits of the meetings of the ministers, there was never a communiqué to be adopted. precisely because of india's position to separate the economic issues that are taken care of by the non-subscription issues. well, officially, even their official version is that security , military issues are not the area of ​​discussion for the g20. actually, this is a very

big mistake, because everything that concerns the current problems and the global cock, in particular, it specifically related to putin's actions, and the failure to recognize this has led to the fact that the summit, if it does happen, will be absolutely without any results for india and for india. i wanted to take into account the fact that, on the one hand, russia will block, on the other hand, india did not give the opportunity to speak to the ukrainian president and talk about these problems in a deeper, more detailed way, even if the church was threatened with some kind of possible discussion. relations as such that both parties are satisfied, that's why putin is going to china, well, first of all, we will wait to see if putin will go, but in fact

, the support of china is now the most important thing for putin both from the point of view of diplomacy and from the point of view repetition of narratives from the point of view of economic support, because if it were not for china's economic support, it is obvious that putin's putin would be so confident today, plus, unfortunately, one way or another, china is noticed in the reexport of various military spare parts, and we see repeated reports and, accordingly, this support. of course, putin needs it very much, and on the one hand, this visit should be ostensibly in response to the delphinium wagon, because this summit is

timed to the tenth anniversary of the belt and the belt and the path of the geopolitics of the strategic project of sydneypin from the other side of russia. well, of course, it is important to maintain relations with china and receive this help from china. well, it is obvious that putin with his visit, if he makes it in any case, will have his personal conversation with sydneypin and the issue of war, the question of hmm how it is developing as putin sees it, it will be discussed , to some extent, putin needs to go and explain what is next, how he plans, no matter what, because because china is his closest partner, and you and i saw this during the meeting in siedelpin, after all, putin is to one degree or another accountable to this day for his actions and his behavior and very much. of course, they want china

to somehow understand what is happening in my future let's also discuss the topic of the visit of the head of the british foreign ministry to china, actually for the first time in five years, and it is interesting that on the one hand they made a statement that it is impossible to restore ties, let's say, in one meeting. and they are not working in this direction in parallel in the house of commons parliament great britain calls taiwan an independent state, which of course infuriates china. well, in fact, the relationship between the two countries is not simple, because the golden era, during the time of prime minister cameron, turned into such an era that constantly fell downwards, and to a large extent this happened is connected with the events of the 19th year, when china absolutely suppressed the autonomy

of hong kong with such harsh methods, despite the fact that there was an agreement between the two countries that hong kong with its rights of such autonomy would receive this operation of rights for 45 years and, accordingly, this the agreement was very harshly suppressed, and it should be said that at that moment, after all, great britain reacted very weakly, like other western countries, and china managed not only to completely destroy the opposition that supported these speeches and not only to destroy today a lot of people in prison and e-e china has established direct management through organs that are absolutely planted and accordingly between the two countries there cannot be a return to those so e-e good relations and to business as such e but

nevertheless we see today what a row western countries, despite the fact that they are actively changing their approaches to interaction with china, they still cannot refuse to dialogue with it, and understanding that china is a large important influential country, in addition , china is very closely tied to the economic relations with each of them, and as for great britain, for example, it is the second trading partner after the united states, because after brexit, great britain tried to cooperate closely and find markets in china, and that is, on the one hand, we see pressure and the need for business to develop some rules interaction in view of the fact that the situation in china