[000:00:00;00] good afternoon, thank you for the invitation. thank you for what happened at our suggestion to tell a little about the activities of your company, and i will start with the fact that just a couple of days ago there was information that the ukrainian armored vehicles company resumed the production of mortars of various calibers and at the beginning of the year the security and defense forces supplied at least 600 different mortars i would like you to tell our viewers why it is about resuming production , how long it took, and exactly what types of mortars we can talk about now thank you for the question. i will probably answer, let's say no, not fully disclosing all the information regarding the organization of the geolocation production process

. why was it restored? because the company lost the production site and the contractor's site in the temporarily occupied territory. e production process at another e-e let's say yes to another location and changing changing the manufacturer changing contractors e-e in accordance with the norms of standards and requirements of the ministry of defense we had to pass qualification tests after that is, quality control by the customer is very strict, especially for mortars as means of destruction, and we are talking about restoration because we have already produced them since 2018, and we have already produced them since 2018

. by the way, it was actively used since the 18th year. the mp-120 aga mortar was put into service before the start of a full-scale invasion , so its production was started. let's talk about these extras the tests, that is, it was necessary to confirm, to confirm a certain quality of these three mortars, as understood by the caliber 60-82 and 120 km, and these new tests, they were shorter compared to those of the state tests because we remember the story when we had to fire under each mortar as much as 5,000 minutes to prove the quality of each element

of the mortar , as it was now more than 5,000 minutes understanding of its stability and durability, as well as the formation of a set of spare parts for the so-called zpa qualification tests are a little simpler, they are less voluminous tests, but which involve the full scope of tests to confirm the declared characteristics and quality of products, that is, this time they did not shoot 5,000 whose mines are significantly less than a few hundred, good. and you said that, or more precisely, there was a report that more than 600 mortars were supplied to the defense forces. a volunteer project by the company itself, which made these deliveries with its own funds, such large-scale deliveries

. unfortunately, we are unable to carry out the e-e supply is carried out for law enforcement agencies for the state customer, including with the use of e-e volunteer funds of giant funds therefore, the recipient of the equipment is the armed forces and other power units of the authorized state, and are there any reviews from the military themselves who received mortars during these first batches? i think there are also 120 mm mortars. what kind of reaction are most needed by our military. what kind of feedback are there on the first days of operation? there are already reviews. since we have been supplying them for a long time, it has been a long time . therefore, of course, immediately after training, they are sent to the front line to the front and

immediately start working. of course, there are also questions and breakdowns that arise , including warranty breakdowns and issues about operation, for example, this information that you took, you took from the press release in which the instructions for operation were laid out this is due to the fact that there are cases when untrained personnel were allowed to operate the equipment or did not learn the information about operation in a certain way, that is why we put in open access a simple video instruction on how to use the mortar to minimize the use of the mortar. the task is damage to products or their breakdown due to operational errors, but when we talk about 20 mm mortars, your company has made certain improvements that

make double charging impossible, and other know-how that should increase operational the combat capabilities of this mortar, these refinements already have, let's say, a certain result in terms of the effectiveness of their use on the battlefield, of course , we started our experimental design work and from the fact that, let's say, duplicating the mechanism to prevent double charging of the soviet 2b11 mortar and already in the process of state tests of the mortar, we significantly refined it, changed the composition of the metal , changed its design several times , tested it by firing and came to the conclusion that the fuse that we created, developed and manufactured , it does not fail as often as, for example, the soviet ones, however

, you can see on the internet about operation. unfortunately, firing mortars of 102 caliber 120 mm. i am not talking about our mortars, but about the use of mortars in general it is carried out in the majority, there are all the videos that i have seen from the battlefield , there is not a single video with a fuse, unfortunately, they are all used without fuses, that is , the level of our military has probably risen that they remember that we threw them into the minus it must be exploded, and regarding the cooperation regarding the formation of the resumption of mortar production, how many ukrainian enterprises are involved in these projects? is it only ukrainian armored vehicles that produce all the components of these mortars ? we have three contractors involved in the production of mortars, but it is necessary to say that under this the contractors still attract their e.e. let's say it's suppliers

of contractors, that is, one workplace creates 10-15 workplaces in related enterprises , even in related industries. and when we say about the new policy now, the content of the word and mortars and abroad, here is price competition , if there is a government order, are these our mortars or your mortars, will they withstand foreign deliveries, the question is interesting. thank you for such a question, it means it is complex. production of mortars in 2018 with, let's say , new targeting, that is, the finished product had to be cheaper than similar imported products in order to have

the possibility of e-e supplies for the armed forces for the ministry of defense or other power customers and in this case if the results were achieved if taken for comparison, i will not name there in absolute numbers, but the mortar is cheaper e-e and 82 mm and 120 mm than foreign analogues in of the same configuration, because, for example, a mortar without fuses without spare parts without wheels can cost completely different funds if it is in the same configuration and may be at the same level or perhaps a little more expensive than mortars from storage. well, there are 10-20-year-old ones that is, well, not fresh production, and therefore completely competitive, and well, the price advantage, for example, in the 120th minometer is quite significant , it is somewhere 20-30%, if you compare it with the tenders of the 19th, 20th, er, 21, er, and now, about

uh, well, with active combat operations and active purchases , it was possible to lower this price from foreign suppliers a little, so there is a whole uh price difference of about 15-29%. well, this is quite significant from the point of view of the expenditure of state funds, it is a lot, but in addition to mortars, your company supplies the armed forces with 60 mm rounds, and literally it was recently that you established a partnership with foreign companies for the production of 120-mm mines, a little more about this project, how long it took, how difficult it was to implement it, what volumes, relatively speaking , can be supplied to the armed forces, at least oriented, what can you say, i will start from the end, probably well, this one is hundreds of thousands

, over 100,000 units per year. regarding the complexity of cooperation, look at the mortar shot. combined production of various branches of metallurgy, chemistry, and precise metal processing for blasters and capsules, of course , it is not easy to establish such a cooperation and it takes time to arrange a shot, a mortar shot, to test it. this is quite a long time. cannot be either er made or there in the near future due to the loading of production lines made in ukraine

, therefore foreign cooperation is used exactly for this and it should be noted that by 2022 before a full-scale invasion ammunition in ukraine, ammunition in ukraine was not produced except for the 60-mm mines you mentioned earlier, and there were also 152-mm hyacinth shots being developed, but they did not complete the tests of the state tests, and that is why this is a fact and it should be noted that now the war is already active and we are engaged and ukroboronprom has declared production. therefore, this is precisely the creation of new production facilities and the expansion of their production capabilities, but we can talk about the fact that you are in cooperation with

foreign partners created, relatively speaking, let's say the first ukrainian mine of 120 mm caliber, you can talk like that. you can also use this mine or a mortar shot. it needed uh, again, tests when we had to confirm certain properties of this mine in relation to the debris here and there and other parameters which ones are there that the military pays attention to. since we produced them let's say operations with a foreign partner, we used uh that documentation let's say uh, they were done using their experience and under their uh registration nato test documents and so on, that's why it's there in detail. i wouldn't like to reveal it, but here, as

an operation, there was such a production cooperation and it's if this is a commercial moment and also an element of security, that's why it's in detail i would not like to talk about it, but our production capabilities were also used, from the experience of such serial production and testing and delivery , that is, this mine fully meets the requirements of nato and all requirements for this mine are taken into account from the point of view the requirements of our military are exactly that there was clearly no need for tests, but you are moving on, and the company has supplied the armed forces and promises to continue to supply 122 mm caliber ammunition, this is a fragmented high-explosive blaster, ammunition for d-30 howitzers and self-propelled units of the clove type, this is the direction with 122 mm ammunition like it

did it develop or is it similar to the fact that there were mines of 120 mm eh a little, well, if you take it that way , it is really similar cooperative chain, but the principle is similar to the formation of, let's say, a ready-made shot from components according to our competences there, and here, too, it is necessary to note the difficulties that arise because , unfortunately, the production of gunpowder there is very limited in europe, and it is there the main er criterion why er well, the narrow bottleneck of the production volumes of production, for example

, of the 122nd shot, well, that is, my about the fact that there is a shortage of gunpowder in europe, there are certain chemical elements now affecting the fact that it is very difficult to agree on timely production if on time the prices are certainly rising, what is happening in europe right now with the production of ammunition for art systems for mortars, what is the situation there, i think you are well aware of the large enough deficit, as i said, for powder mixtures, e.e., for various , especially powder mixtures, e.e. let's say yes, for the post-soviet hummingbirds e-e 122 and 152 e-e well, the workload of the productions e-e production according to european and western it is planned for years ahead and therefore e-e let’s say

so get some components get into some elements for a shot, it is much more difficult to buy some components than there in the pre-war period, and on the one hand, on the other hand, we understand that the european union, as part of its e-e guarantors, as part of its programs to provide ukraine, actively provides domestic european manufacturers with orders for e- e reserves e-e artillery caliber, here we mentioned a clip of 60 mm, then 20 mm for mortars 122 for ars systems, is the company going to move there and further there 152-155 mm , is it, well, in such business plans of yours enterprises, we are considering such a proposal, or rather, what is the possibility. but we are facing the difficulties that

i mentioned earlier, it is not so, it is simple, and there are also a number of technical issues, it is much easier to organize the production of 155 mm nato caliber, how many are available component technologies, etc., etc. but for 152 mm , there is indeed a significant shortage of components and technologies, technologically, it is slightly different from 122 mm, it requires different equipment for production, so there are well, there are difficulties that need to be understood if they are in to further implement but of course our strategy is the expansion of the product portfolio and development. thank you, but what kind of help is needed from the state so that this scaling of production really takes place, and we are state and private companies, what would you

like the most right now ? on the part of state structures or really produce more in the majority and more nomenclature well, my position has remained unchanged for many years of work in this field eh in order to have eh in order to to develop and have the necessary volumes of supply, long-term contracts are needed, companies cannot produce products in a wave-like manner, all the more so there is ammunition, if we are talking about ammunition, which requires the presence of a production line that cannot stop, a melting line, stamping and so on, therefore, both private manufacturers and i, as a representative of the private

defense industry, need a planned long-term order, and it makes it possible for private manufacturers to make unnecessary investments in fixed assets, if we are talking about the production of active products. and we need planned orders more so that there are no such minutes of figurative orders when we produce something quickly, then we stop, then we produce something again quickly, this is the main criterion if the enterprise will have not only ours, any enterprise from the field of private pc e will have a long-term order it will organize any serial production without problems orthodoxy thank you very much for including for the work your company does for our safety and

of defense, and i will remind our viewers that eterikospresso had a letter to belbas from the general director of the ukrainian armored vehicles company, which supplies our army with mortars and shots for art systems of various calibers, and then we will talk about missile weapons. about the dynamics of this market. but this is after the informational pause so in a few minutes i'm waiting for you to continue our program there is a cough there are discounts on mukaltin 15 percent at podorozhnyk bam pharmacies and savings there are discounts on voltaren forte and voltaren emulgel 20% at podorozhnyk bam pharmacies and

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of how to stop russia and where to move in ukraine and there is such a quote that in order to influence the aggression of the putin regime, you need to have obvious advantages over the group of occupiers, and not so with regard to the number of personnel, but as for the technology of weapons, you are talking about technology against the background of volodymyr zelenskyi's statement about the testing of long-range systems at 700 km that ukraine is finally starting to take such noticeable steps on the road to technological progress, well , we must start with the fact that we receive weapons for material and technical assistance from western countries through three channels. this is the largest such channel, so to speak, then the purchase of own e-e weapons of those developments of innovative solutions that

are in ukraine e-e and e-e the third channel is actually import, but there is another nuance which now only in development it will say yes, not the fourth channel, but this is a second addition to the second channel, this is military-technical work , so i would now suggest talking more about ukrainian technologies and military-technical cooperation. it is these two aspects that make it possible to defeat russia eh on its territory or deep in the occupied in the occupied territories as for example in the occupied crimea why is it important eh above

all an even more terrible stage may begin when almost all cities and those that will already be de-occupied, yes, following the example of kherson, yes, they will simply be burned by the enemy. we need things that will allow us to carry out grain well answer the enemy's mirror response to the enemy, first of all, there are two components, now, in these ideas about the two most important components , these are missiles, missiles with a range of 500-1,000 km and in the future 1,500 km, and we know very well together what is going on not only about cruise missiles, but also about ballistic missiles, the fact that a ukrainian missile hit

the s400 complex on the territory of crimea. it is definitely very important for us that it has been proven to us in practice that the construction and production of missiles continues and increases. it's probably just e the modification of the neptune cruise missile is being carried out to the ground-to-ground class, that is, not as an anti-ship missile, but as a missile that will be used for land targets, and this is very important. it seems to me that we are already talking about e-e, the range of the missile is increased, if the neptune had 280, then i am convinced that quite soon we will find out about strikes by such a missile already at a distance of about 400,500 km, i am absolutely convinced that it will be so and

it is a very important point that it was not the russians proved incapable anti-aircraft - russian anti-aircraft anti-missile defense, and the s400 complex is a powerful complex, which is actually a complex of anti-aircraft defense systems, it was unable to react, well , we can probably attribute this to the fact that it was an unexpected strike and what, but on the other hand, let's see that the territory of russia is very large russia will not have the opportunity, as in israel , let's say, to completely close all its territory, and if you choose different objects, then ukraine will be able to deliver effective strikes in the middle of july . in our country, we are talking about the fact that ukraine began not only to hit objects and scare psychologically to put pressure on the enemy, but began to methodically destroy the elements of the defense