[000:00:00;00] let's say it's much more difficult to get some components, to get some elements for a shot, to buy some components than there in the pre-war period . ukraine is actively providing domestic european manufacturers with orders for e-e ammunition e-e artillery calibers, we mentioned the 60 mm 120 mm clip for mortars 122 for ars systems , is the company going to move there and further there is 152-155 mm, is it, well, in such business plans of your company, we are considering such a proposal, or rather, a possibility. but

we are facing the difficulties that i voiced earlier, it is not so, uh, just uh, and there are also a number of technical uh- it is much easier to organize the production of 155 mm nato caliber, as far as the available component technology, etc. but for 152 mm , there is indeed a significant shortage of components and technologically, it is slightly different from 122 mm, it requires different equipment for therefore, there are difficulties that need to be understood if they are to be implemented in the future. but of course, our strategy is to expand the product portfolio and development of vladislav , but what kind of help is needed from the state in order for this scaling of production to really happen, and we are state and private

companies, what would you like now it was the most . well, it is necessary from the side of state institutions or from the side of state structures to really produce more in the majority and more nomenclature. well, my position has remained unchanged for many years of work in this field uh, in order to have uh, in order to develop and have uh, the necessary volumes of supply, long-term contracts are needed , uh, companies cannot produce products for minutes figuratively, uh, especially there is ammunition if we are talking about ammunition, where the presence is required a production line that cannot be stopped, a melting line, a stamping line, and so on, so private

manufacturers and i as a representative of the private defense industry, we need a planned long-term order, and it gives an opportunity that private manufacturers do not need for the most part, investments in fixed assets are unnecessary if we are talking about the production of operational products. and we need more planned orders so that there are no such minutes of figurative order when we produce something quickly, then we stop, then we produce something again quickly, this is the main criterion if the enterprise will have not only any of our enterprises in the field of private pc will have a long-term order, it will organize any serial production without problems orthodoxy thank you very much for including for the work that your company is doing for our security and defense, and i will remind our viewers that

eterikospresso had a letter to belbas, the general director of the company ukrainian armored vehicles, which supplies our army with mortars and shots for art systems of various calibers, and then we will talk about missile weapons. about the dynamics of this market but this is already after the information break, so in a few minutes i am waiting for you for the continuation of our italy-ukraine program on megogo at the legendary san siro stadium, our national team will impress the italian audience with a bright game watch the euro 2024 selection super match 5 on megogo i'm back missing combispasm the power that tames your fight i'm discounts on kanefron m 20% at porozhnyk pharmacies you and savings there are discounts on motilium pills 20% at porozhnyk pharmacies

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call congratulations, this is the freedom of life on radio svoboda we have already come to the very change the following shots may shock you news from the scene live kamikaze drone attacks political analysis objectively and meaningfully there is no political season exclusive interviews reports from the hottest points of the front freedom life frankly and impartially draw conclusions ourselves we continue our military program with which we talk about weapons , technology and our defense industry , and now we are joined by valentyn batrak , director of the army conversion research center

and the disarmament of analytics, the writer valentina, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear you. i congratulate you, mr. serhii, i am always happy to join and discuss these issues, so i would like to start our conversation with the study that came out on ukrinform, this study is under your signature, under the signature of academician gorbulin, and the main question there is the main one motive - this is the search for an answer to the question of how to stop russia and where to move in ukraine, and there is such a quote that in order to influence the aggression of the putin regime, you need to have obvious advantages over the group the occupiers and not so in terms of the number of personnel, but what about the technology of weapons, you are talking about this in the context of technology , what is it about in more detail and can it be asserted against the background of volodymyr zelenskyi’s statement about testing long-range systems at 700 km that ukraine is finally starting to make such noticeable

steps on the way to technological progress, well, we must start with the fact that we receive weapons through three channels , logistical and technical assistance from western countries. this is the largest such channel, so to speak , then the purchase of our own e-e weapons the development of innovative solutions that are available in ukraine, and the third channel is actually an import , but there is one more nuance, which is currently only in development, it will say yes, not the fourth channel, but it is an addition to the second channel, it is a military-technical promise therefore, i would now suggest talking more about ukrainian technologies and military-technical cooperation. because it is these two aspects that make it possible to defeat russia

on its territory or deep in the occupied territories. i, for example, in to the occupied crimea, why is it important, first of all , we are starting from the fact that even here we can imagine the implementation of a complete deoccupation . to be burned by the enemy we need things that will allow us to carry out a grain response to the enemy , a mirror response to the enemy, first of all , there are two components now, eh, in these ideas about the two most important components, eh, missiles eh

missiles with a range of 500-1000 km e and in the future 1.5 thousand kilometers and e we know well together that it should be about not only cruise missiles but also cruise missiles e the fact that a ukrainian missile e-e hit the s400 complex on the territory of crimea it is definitely very important for us that it has been proven to us in practice that the construction and production of rockets continues and increases, and it is probably just a modification of the neptune cruise missile to the ground-to-ground class, that is, not as an anti-ship missile, but as a missile that will be to be used for ground targets and this is very important. i think that we are already talking

about the range of the missile increased if neptune had 280, then i am convinced that quite soon we will learn about strikes by such a missile already at a distance of about 400,500 km i am absolutely convinced that this is how it will be and it is a very important point that it was not russian anti-aircraft proved to be incapable - russian anti-aircraft anti -missile defense and the s400 complex is a powerful complex which actually is complex ppu pro e could not react, well, we can probably write it off to the fact that it was an unexpected blow and what, but on the other hand, let's see that the territory of russia is very large, in russia it will not be like in israel, let's say the possibility to completely close all its territory and if you choose different ob objects, ukraine will be able to deliver

effective strikes and actually from the middle of july. in our country, we are talking about the fact that ukraine began not only to hit objects and scare psychologically to put pressure on the enemy, but began to methodically destroy the elements of the defense of potential, it is 22m3 here and it is the large il-76 planes, we will say yes, which provide the mobility of the airborne forces of russia , and it is definitely other planes there, su 30 mig-29 , which were also during one of the attacks, there were five planes damaged or destroyed, you are disabled at least and this is definitely naval equipment - it is er that ukraine even under novorossiysk got

er increased and if we they said they started with missiles, then in order to complete the topic of missiles, we still need very serious efforts to create ballistic missiles as well, because, uh, if cruise missiles, well, formally , russia can quickly adapt to them and shoot down such a significant number of them, then ballistic missiles. i think that she will not be able to kill at all, because they do not have such systems as patriot, such systems as sam, that is, mamba, and i think that they will be forced to either endure further or make a decision to terminate at a and in fact we have to force them to peace, so to speak, and so that they do not want

to carry out attacks, because any attack will be mirror responses. in the production of weapons, a factory that produces electronics for missiles is on fire today in lyubartsy, and this is already a very big achievement. so, after missiles, the second element , in my opinion, is just a variety of drones, but i want to positively note that we have never there was no production of naval drones even during this already great continental war - this production has been established in our country and we are developing and producing marine drones already with a load of up to 850 kg

. well, a significant achievement. now we are observing in the development and application of e drones of unmanned aviation complexes, although so far we are only talking about kamikaze drones, so far it seems that nothing has been created. such a drone already had a load of 70, and maybe in the future even 100 kg of explosives, but the dynamics of development is so fast that it accelerated so much precisely in the 23rd year that it can be predicted that in the near future we will have such killer drones with a large, powerful load, and er, if ukraine even started making drones from cardboard, even according to the principle of the well-known australian company e, then we are saying that ukrainians are very quickly mastering the use of new composite materials, new elements

of communication navigation, and so on. and we see that in dozens of armored personnel carriers attacked moscow, yes, that is, there are many anti-drone air defense systems there, but they can’t do anything, they can’t, their air defense is helpless, just like the anti-missile defense in crimea, we’ve already seen it , so these two components are needed very quickly. well they are developing quite quickly and let's say that it is very nice, especially that not only the private sector, although the ministry of defense testifies that the vast majority of purchases of such new high-tech things are the private sector is almost, well, there, i don’t know, it dominates, but the fact that marine drones were developed actually under the guidance of the security service and this is the public sector with the certificate of the head of the security service. this is probably a very positive

moment . and state-owned enterprises. by the way, here i cannot help but mention that we need not only the killer drone, but also an operational-tactical drone of the operational-strategic level in the future , which will be a multi-use complex e guided weapons. we have it. it was developed back in 2017. tests of the tsrk-2v began to be developed. that is , the rk-2 missile barrier complex was developed. cables and optics were developed. the electronic guidance system with a laser channel. there are joint developments.

and uh, private enterprises, which is also very important, and therefore, there are all the possibilities for uh , to carry out this independently. well, here, unfortunately , i can't help but say something that uh, only in the 23rd year, it started to develop rapidly, uh well, maybe there were some objective reasons during the great war in the sense that the calculations were mainly on weapons of western production, but somewhere in december-january it became clear , in january of this year, that the west would not provide weapons so quickly and, in principle, there were signs of this that today, for example, in garden , you can see such material with a reference to the book of one of biden’s closest entourage, where it was said that there were very dissatisfied with the persistence of the ukrainian

authorities, in particular, president zelensky, when he in the 21st year, the first time e was in september, we remember, was in washington and very persistently , well, he even demanded e-e acceptance into nato and so on. therefore, we can now, after a certain time, understand e, why e added, the west reacts somewhat restrained system, especially the united states, the biden administration, but of course it is very unfortunate that these developments did not start and the state did not support them and looked at them very discreetly starting from the 19th. th year , the efforts of the state are already weak and this is one of the reasons this is actually a large-scale attack, because if our priority was the development of various missiles and drones , in addition, we need to add automation to that

, of course , we also need to add opportunities for new weapons control systems. well, it could be scaled, it could all be much more accelerated, the means of electronic warfare, under certain conditions, we could keep up with russia, so there are a lot of such nuances that uh, well, actually made ukraine weak before the big war and therefore turned into a vulnerable target. of course, ukraine was attractive to putin , who thought he would do it quickly, but the 23rd year shows that ukrainians will not even want to look at the position of the west in

in the future, today's publication is a very powerful publication about what president zelenskyi said during a business forum in italy that we will liberate crimea and the path depends on russia's behavior, either diplomatically or militarily, and here it is. for some reason the statement appeared due to great pressure for ukraine to give up its desire to de-occupy all its lands and territories . actually, today's statement is another one, so to speak . attacks began through the western media about the slowness of the counter-offensive about the need for negotiations with putin and so on . actually, such a statement was necessary to say

that if you do not support us in the issues de-occupation, and so far the biden administration does not support it, so we will try to move independently, it is very interesting that europe can play on our side, let's say macron has already made a statement what is more true that europe should prepare to help ukraine if there will be a second trump, but actually, uh, this is a hint that if the united states delays aid too much, europe will take over. well, so to speak, the center of gravity will be in europe, uh, this is very symptomatic, very interesting. and now what else

you need to do to ukraine, look, biden promised an aid agreement based on the model of the israeli model, if it happens, then it will be for about 10 years and about 3 billion dollars. the eu and after that borel, the top diplomat of the european union, noted that an agreement is being prepared from the 24th to the 27th year , approximately 5 billion euros annually, and what needs to be done in ukraine there. namely western powers, and we need to switch it very quickly in order to attract precisely ukrainian opportunities and do it within the framework of military-technical cooperation. we already have powerful projects such as, well, a powerful start, we will say uh, such as, first of all

, uh, the creation of baikar mohina enterprises in turkish, ukraine has its own production facilities, and we know from the interview with bayraktarach that ukraine will be allowed to exploit and maybe develop. our falcon 300 has more powerful weapons than the e-e baraktar, for example, yes. thank you very much for such a general assessment of what is happening in our defense industry. where should we go and these landmarks are defined clearly enough in my opinion, and i advise our readers to turn to your publication on ukrinform where it is once again emphasized and detailed, and i will remind our viewers that our interlocutor was valentin batrak, director of the konovaltsi army research center and disarmament, analyst and writer. so what conclusions can we draw that we need to develop our own defense industry and establish effective cooperation with our partners, which

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