[000:00:00;00] to the youth and sports of ukraine from 14 to 19 years old, mr. igor, thank you for finding our time on sunday, i will start my question with the quote of one russian propagandist who loved to say coincidence i don't think so or do you think it's a coincidence mr. president zelenskyi is leaving in the united states, we know that there will be her participation in the session of the general assembly of the developing united nations and a meeting with high-ranking officials , including maybe with the president, on the one hand, on the other hand, yesterday it became known that at least let's say pretrial mr. kolomoisky and many people say, i don't think it's a coincidence, because it's some kind of gift. as i said, they say in odessa and you want songs. i have them. you want the oligarchs to be in prison and those closest to

the president, as was believed. oligarch seven here, please, he is already sitting, what do you say to mr. igor? well, i also think that this is not a coincidence of coincidences and i don't think because, uh, you would still forget, uh, to say one fact. right now, maybe the visit has already ended there. i don't know for sure and was with a visit, the heads of our anti-corruption law enforcement agencies sap nabu and so on and so on and they talked about the problems of fighting corruption, so you understand that the president needs good relations with the united states because it is our strategic a partner and a country that forms the agenda for the provision of modern weapons to ukraine, well, without its help, we are unlikely to honestly say that we will win this war with russia, because we have

everything except modern weapons in order to introduce a catch with russia this spring, and that is why we need normal relations there, and always, er, united states and both emphasizing the need for you, guys , to fight corruption, so here is such a case demonstrated by mr. conclusion. maybe he is on bail. i think that this is not a big problem for him and he will be released on bail, and then this case will be investigated, but since there is still a problem, we hope that the decision will be fair because we know how many problems were

there ? that it is really a person who broke the law and it will be proven. she was in prison. gordon is in prison. that is clear, mr. igor. and what do you think? i understand that you are not an expert, but i am not an expert either, but look, it exists. do you think that in ukraine you can find very strong very clever, very intelligent. very even. i would say that there should be experts and so on, because it is obvious that mr. kolomoiskyi has the money to hire the best lawyers .

let's do it and then this competition is obviously strong lawyers, and on the opposite side there should be strong prosecutors and strong investigators, strong experts and so on and so on, what do you say ? the judge of the pension court mr. mykola kozyubro, i have some ideas about the situation, i have carefully studied the suspicion. i am absolutely in favor of the competitive process - it is the basis in general , including the democrats in the country . and talented and professional lawyers, but if the suspicion has already appeared, then it must be brought to court. in fact, we have several questions. i

am not a fan of kolomoisky. of accusations is that he er, he allegedly opened an account, allegedly without opening er money without depositing cash, they informed him that he had some large amount of cash there, they converted it from cash to non-cash well, as we usually do, we came to the bank, opened it, put uah 100, which were in the pocket of we have uah 100 in the account already without feeders. yes, there are accusations that he did not put money at all. it was just a fiction , but how it goes, i can’t imagine how it can go such sums, uh, without being reflected in the balance in the bank, or it was clear that this then people don't see the shores at all they thought that they would get away with it, but on the other hand, why such a complex scheme described there by privatbank, they would transfer the rights

of extortion of this debt to this structure to mr. kolomoisky and he would buy this structure, accordingly, there is such a legal history of the transfer he would have bought the right of debt for the appropriate amount, perhaps with a discount, and he would have uh, this one as the opposite . well, i don't, i don't exactly remember this structure, but it should not have owed money to mr. kolomoiskyi's privatbank. well, there are two questions , the first of which arose but god grant that we have the truth is, i really want that if this person is guilty, she should be in prison regardless of her status, and by the way, regardless of what she did there at the beginning of the 14th year, when the ato began, this should also not be forgotten, but if a person committed crimes and

the mission is in prison and not at large, i have a very simple position. thank you, mr. igor, let's move on to another , more international issue. everyone is waiting for the talks between mr. erdogan and mr. putin , and undoubtedly ukrainians are interested in the grain agreement. what do you think, a lot of people and about they are thinking about it with whom i spoke, but do you think some arguments will be enough? i simply cannot imagine what arguments can influence putin and putin in such and such a narrow pipe crawls forward and there at the end some kind of explosion is already being prepared but we do not know when it will happen but well, well, there will be an agreement, there will not be, putin will not care, there is a beautiful russian saying, one answer to everything bad, he already has exactly no seven bad, and 150 million different bad, but the answer is still one well, what

can erdoğan do so that putin agreed officially, you know, i hope that he will have one answer, and it will be heard from us in prague, from this international community, for putin, and it will be unambiguous. this person should be responsible for those crimes . when did this evil come, did russia come to our land , to our territory, regarding the question, i think erdogan would not have gone to sochi, there was a different design at first, putin should have come to turkey well, since the extradited

there is a known warrant for his detention by the international criminal court, he did not go to sochi, turkey, he was afraid, he negotiated with the zertagar to come to sochi, well, bardagram, if i say it again, i repeat myself, i did not expect a solution to this issue, he was and did not go , there are many arguments, including that there are various financial arguments, but i paid attention to piskov's statement. this person does not have a word of his own opinion. he is putin's mouth. he says what putin cannot say. i understood from his statement that the agreement and whether the renewal of the grain agreement is quite possible because the orthogon will speak as he will, we will tell him to convince, well, this is a question for the cardigan rather, but i think that he will be able to convince putin of this by the way, putin cannot control the situation now, you will see that one ship has passed

two more vessels came out today, that is, by pressure-niche, valko is not vavka , but they are coming here because there is no other normal logistics, the railway , you cannot transport such volumes, or because of that, they are iryni . by the way, they attack, they create certain negotiating positions with this task, they want the most favorable conditions, but uh, in the open uh, in the black sea, they do not intercept here, there was one known case , but the ship continued on its way, that is, they operate there, these vessels can carry out their flights, listen more one question, if we have already started talking about it, we are changing the logic of the question a little, but it is interesting. i think this is a more interesting question

. to think, i will reprimand the theoretical arrest of putin, it would be terribly profitable, it is friendship, chewing gum for the whole of europe, everyone clapped their hands, everyone shouted, well done, the americans would unblock all the supplies of everyone, there would be rockets, planes, i don’t know tanks, everything in the world, we all gave money, well done, for the recovery after of these earthquakes. in short, when i put myself in the place of putin or the same sand or environment , i thought why putin did not fly like that, because such a delicious candy flies to erdogan, which simply does not add up, it is impossible to be arrested sent to gaga and you are the champion of the world and everyone claps their hands and say, well, well done turks, what a wonderful life, what do you say, well, the logic of such consideration of events it has the right to

exist, let’s say it was really such an indulgence for the horde itself, because it was quite clear to him a skeptical attitude towards the course he is taking the country on. this is clearly not about a western, non-democratic course - it is a course for the renewal, let's say, of the islamization of ukraine. it differs from the course bequeathed by the father of a turk and a turk, but god he is a judge, but in this way you really had to correct the situation, i think, however, the leadership of the couples and the presidents of amofos, who were also faced with such a dilemma. calculated various events and said that mr. president, we do not guarantee you that you are not dictators, we do not guarantee that you will not be arrested in turkey, maybe there

, uh, uh, with erdogan, about this he also could not guarantee such a development of events, so well, putin careful well, we know he does not sit conditional bunker that he created the whole country and is afraid to show his nose because he understands that he can be taken by the skin and brought to the hague and that no strategic nuclear forces of russia will not help him in this game because when he is arrested he will no longer be a dictator, will cease to be a president, but will be an ordinary citizen, putin , who can be sacrificed in exchange for some preference , who receives new power from the west, because i have no doubt that this war will simply end on the same day that putin putin

will not be in this world because the political elite, or rather claas in russia, is not interested in this war. i am also a rude little girl who is close to the dictator. maybe she is interested in something, she is not interested, not the russian generals, not the political elite, they want to get rid of it. the exchange of putin in exchange for which of the preference e-e association with the new government. this is a completely deliberate game that you can go and play this card. it's just that everyone is afraid to do it now because they are afraid of putin, this is also true. thanks to mr. igor igor zhdanov, the head of the information defense project of the fund, open policy and the minister of youth and sports of ukraine, was in touch with us from 14 to 19 years old. now we will have advertising before advertising .

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create, the germans themselves do not create, the chinese are trying to do something, something doesn’t work out that way, you can’t say that they just all use their planes there, that’s all they buy arbaza and soldiers , respectively, in ukraine somehow. i can’t understand how it is possible to establish mass production of such large commercial aircraft, what do you say, mr. kostyantyn i will say very simply, our problem with the whole ukrainian idea of ​​the military-industrial complex is that we can do it with our own strength, then we will enter the world market and trade and everything will be fine. but in order for everything to work well this aviation industry should be a very serious logistical component of this entire system and if you don't have such a component you cannot

compete in the world in this matter except for what we have with aviation so to speak. we have a very good system. which one it used to be called the antonov factory or the antonov firm or the antonov ntk , but during the years of our independence it lost all its positions on the world market and lost the opportunity to promote its products on the world market . motor sich could provide our aviation component with its engines, but everything there was also oriented towards russia and two two people, this is the red commander antonova, mr. kyiv and known to all of us , the owner of the sichi engine. i think they killed

the ukrainian aviation industry. thank you. is there so when you say that buzhok teaches a lot, it is lost. i remember my father knew mr. antonov well, they were friends there in one way or another , and when i asked him many, many years ago, he said that from his point of view it was intuition, and intuition - this is, as einstein said, ignorance is 90% of success. when he was asked this, the great einstein shocked everyone when asked about intu and said, "you don't understand. it's nine. and my father told me that antonov didn't see it that way. that's not how he surrounded himself with people who are not like that we looked at him, but here, come on, everyone does it, anna, let's try this moment, it's intuitive - it's an engineer plus intuition, then antonov is a genius, are there any such antonovs in

ukraine? antonov is really a genius . he was a very diverse person, and he was very ... -e he has a lot of many pictures. yes, he is an artist. yes, he was a tennis player . he had four women - he and everyone else were friends there. his first wife was shakatuni yelyzaveta avetovna . a really talented person is a genius, such geniuses. as i understand it, in ukraine now you won't find ladies among us. with you, boeing is the name of a german who moved to the united states and founded this one. boeings are still flying, antonov . they are still flying, but less and less. will there be a new antonov or a new boeing or a ukrainian boeing in ukraine well, i think that

now these issues have already become such a group work, it's not eh. however, it can be an lm-mask, but in this field, you need to be very competent in various in various such directions of the entire industry, and it is more likely group work is also possible. and what can we offer? well, for example, there is still some potential. there are some engines, there is some knowledge, uh , enter this concert and this airbus. and somehow show yourself there. well, maybe ukrainians make the best wings in the world. there is some part of the fuselage or i don't know some propellers i just don't understand anything about it that's why i'm asking you if we can somehow

we still have that potential nothing a new e-e has not been made in these years, all the efforts have been made to replace 7 178 there e-e with other machines , this is such a remix of what was obtained during the construction of ruslan oci so when it was developed, this was the e-e top of the e-e antonov's creativity. this was antonov's last car and its layout, and when he was there for the first time , it was a mess, so it was simple then with cameras, there were no smartphones, and cameras were not allowed . -e ruslana, he

has a strange layout and he was ahead of his time for 50 years, it is still a relevant car, mr. konstantin, i have such a gloomy question now, maybe at the end , i will ask even more optimistically, you know, margaret thatcher , the british prime minister of her time, simply closed the pride of the various prides of britain , she said we can't afford it, she closed space is so big space components yes, okay, she closed the auto industry, in fact, she closed the aircraft industry, in fact, and i even went when i was near london, she just showed me the field and said, “what was here, they say, there were factories, they stood there, but thatcher she looked, they calculated, she said, well, we can’t with our budget, we won’t be able to pull it off, let’s close what we can’t keep , then in ukraine it might be easier somehow not to finance something that will still not give any result. it’s simple, well, i don’t know what your opinion is

please, i think we need to integrate. this is the world association of aircraft industry manufacturers, uh , calmly, persistently, accurately and clearly fulfilling all its obligations. this is a polish company, and it was such a repair plant, well, like our lviv aircraft repair plant of the 410th, which in zhulyanakh, they are now producing a part of the f16 fuselage and are going to do some things on the f-35. that is, everything is possible , all you need is the will and perseverance and people who want to do it, and unfortunately, antonov has such people for a long time. i haven't seen it for a long time, and those who are going through the process of managing this enterprise are uh-uh, it's not aviation fans , it's uh-uh, businessmen who, uh, pilfer money, let's say

, let's call things by their names, another group of questions. this product is a dream because when you watch documentaries, you read. you see that this is the only way to transport something huge from europe to australia , for example, yes. and it flies and the other way, it will take a long time to load the boats there, well, it’s shorter. and it works, and on the one hand, you see that it really works from the other side. you see it every day, well, what for one plane, well, two ? well, it is obvious that 20 planes in the world do not need to keep a factory , keep it a lot, that is, build 1-2 such planes can and should but what do you say , the dream is like that well, this is the soviet union who could

to allow yourself such happiness, and maybe no one needs it. is it your opinion that the main task of the dream was to transport buran ? yes, and the spacecraft. and there is no such commercial value. ruslan earns much more than the dream because he the dream constantly flies fulfills one-time orders there one-time transportation and uh i have already been there more than once i have been there for a year and a half when the question arose of restoring the dream i said that there is no sense in this if there is a sense in it - only some political for someone else's money but e it will be very difficult for us to do this, because these components that are on the dream, the wing, the chassis, there are a lot of other components , it will be very difficult to make them, you understand, and these factories that produced this dream were assembled by more than 14

enterprises of the soviet the union as its elephant and those pro-productions that did it are no longer there and russia is no longer there because there were a lot of you from russia, so i think that this is nonsense and it is rather dancing with tambourines around this topic , it is very important from such patriotic embroidered reasons, but not from any point of view er, reasonable, er, some reasonable motives, mr. kostyantyn. look, this is where the optimism began. i hope that you will add optimism to us at the end, because if a country with a population of 40 million and such a modest budget is enough, well, that is, the country's budget, er, there is no possibility but also such a country where there is oil, gas