[000:00:00;00] and that's why we will be happy for president zelenskiy, we will meet him, he will pursue him as a great ally, and we really hope that he will not, i don't know , become an ally in fact, they are tired and would like ukraine to win already, i am talking to friends who say why is it necessary to intervene yet, my friends are americans who say, well, putin has enough of all these nuclear threats we already don't believe it let's go let's just go in, let's finish it. and everything is so that the patience of the americans also runs out . i'm making a choice that now decisions will be made on the next big package of aid to ukraine, eh, 24 billion

. is this or the amount there 40 billion? it's very interesting , because in order for the republicans to support them, they gave money to protect our southern border with mexico, eh. yes that's it такая быть part of everything, well, of course, it needs to be restored, which is completely burned down now, so zelensky can come and support his part of this package, as it were, on camera, he can speak . well, i don't know. a-a but these are his tasks, therefore, if he comes to the congress after this, he votes for help, e-e , a new aid package, then this is a crushing success of e-e zelensky, a-a, if it is, a-a, if it fails, it’s like all of us we understand that of course, it is a failure. please tell me. when we say that the americans are tired because you know. these are different levels of tiredness. let us, as members of nato, enter there

. we will end the war. this is one moment. calm down in this way, here is the second moment, here the question is, what should fatigue lead to, uh, americans are tired of ukrainians, it is very different, of course. yes, because the americans are tired, we are ready to turn putin's head. even a nest and we are as if ready to help to continue helping the whole of ukraine to do everything necessary and because putin is a criminal of the number scene, a big threat has the sky , everything is tired the decision about when the war will end and how it will end. this decision of the ukrainians is also very important here. it is very important to remind people who think that america will definitely decide

america will not decide. we help because ukraine was attacked. it is important and so on, and on the list there will be no states when it is what ukraine needs , we have a too long list of bad and complicated regimes and ridiculous regimes, and when we dictate to people what they need to do, you know, this is not always the case with us to put it mildly, it turns out that's why when we speak, we will simply support you. i think this is the most reasonable approach. in this situation, it is not a very difficult situation. you noticed that the united states visited the head of the anti-corruption institution ukraine was the head of the anti-corruption prosecutor, in washington, they met with a number of american officials, the head of the anti-corruption court. here they are in three such main figures in anti-corruption

ukrainian architecture. why, and in your opinion, are they in general, they were invited to visit zelensky, by the way, yes, because the fight against corruption is very important, you know, i remember how they fought corruption in a country neighboring ukraine and how it ended, what did it lead to, and what did it lead to? -and there is hope a-a and there is hope that a-a if georgia, which is now visible again, withdraws from the west and signed a cooperation agreement with china, it withdraws from us a-a we have hope for ukraine, this means the fight against corruption , this means that again we can support, we can help, we can make a deal, some recommendations well, this solution is the struggle of ukrainians, this is the struggle of the members of the government

of ukraine, but 100% in the end , the elected person is responsible for everything from these officials , so the one who appointed these people in the end after all, he is responsible for their activities, as i understand it, but we are all for them, the states, we really, really want ukraine to fight corruption and do everything we can to do it. it is said in the not yet published book that biden has much more experience and acceptance of ukraine in the police life of ukraine than zelensky, so biden has been dealing with that issue for a long time, and he has been dealing with corruption and corruption in ukraine so that his enemies who ask naturally everything turn it 180° to explain that he is the main corrupt officer, but i think that normal people understand that he has been fighting corruption in ukraine for a very long time or not. but he will fight for ukraine

as much as he can. well, what do you think about the detention of ihor kolomoisky, well, how does it affect the american, uh, ukrainian relations , i know that kolomoisky is located like this , the sanction is disconnected from the state. i think that any step which shows that the country is interested in justice and the observance of the law is considered very important, the same thing that we ask for, we observe with a strap when people say why is he not sitting yet why is he not behind bars that this is slow justice is what i am talking about you understand justice is like that love is like that the verb needs to be judged, therefore justice is moving forward, it will be in america as well. and if we see signals , this is before what is happening in ukraine. россии when at some point some villain is enough to destroy them and not for that not for the other no with what kind of crime it's not connected simply

bulldogs crossed each other's roads a-a and all this is horror therefore there should be a place for it justice too be the process should be a court and all this should happen, it should be as far as possible in sight, and people should sit behind it , this is a state process - it is a state process of growing up . this it will happen, this is important, as far as i understand zelensky, who is not mistaken with kolomoisky, too, but here i am, well, i am the biggest specialist in anal, so i think that such signals are heard by the sector, and even in this situation, i was glad that the arrested ukrainians the oligarch still wears the color of the ukrainian flag, yes, that is, he is a patriot, this is a good signal, this is a good trend, and i wish you success and courage .

certain fear and that's why i wish the prosecutor who works on this case and other corruption cases courage on the other hand, such questions are also understood, again, as justice is said, but to what extent is justice in general, the readiness of this justice to prosecute someone is influenced by american sectional politics , because you know that kolomoisky is under the sanctions of the state department, his guarantor wants to appear as a second person coming out under american sanctions, some dubinsky, does he know about it? he is a former journalist who naturally is a member of the right-wing party of the verkhovna rada of ukraine. he is known for taking part in a non-communist propaganda project aimed at overthrowing and to fight against the power that was elected

as a result of the victory of the ukrainian revolution in 2013, there was such an operation in the 19th year when many of these people did not give themselves in the existing government and here he is the guarantor of kolomoisky, but he becomes a deputy and remains, as far as they understand, this is part of the infrastructure of his own eh and system is under american sanctions, there are people absolutely calm to approach , they live and prosper with american sanctions, you know, i think about what is happening with politicians in our country states that supported or took part are funny on the sixth of january 21, because there are also state politicians who were arrested in the capital. here are the illusions that we are engaged in about you, the people who must decide to complete the crime and so on, they can , for some reasons, and even you can, on some charges, eh, does not serve at all, in

principle, even the 14th amendment to the constitution of the united states of america, which is now being disputed about whether it is possible to allow a person who was involved in a coup attempt to participate in the political life of the country in the future , we are deciding this now. or on vyborov because, except for the voters, no one has the collective strength to resist, that's how evil it is, because they can't decide to stand up to insults, so these politicians who support people who harm ukraine need to at least lose on vybor a-a posle etogor we even deal with the prosecutor's office and they have to be responsible, but i just kind of follow the american example and i hope that we give a sufficiently a-a adequate example of how it should work

работать justice, eh, and wait to investigate , so that others may investigate our example, how ethical it is to turn the country's population into jurors, the entire population competently understand what is happening. it's wrong , that's how it would be. sorry, my hands are tied . the voters forced me to do it. and now you can't come here. it's a lot. that's why the government of the 14th amendment is so weak. a chance because it depends on the interpretation of the judges ету очень so you know it is not clear what it is and when it is quiet the majority in which any evil is somehow dissolved college, which, according to the idea, should be another such a way to stop the seizure of power by protecting

the mattress, and instead of it, for the last 25 years, the man who lost the general election will end up in power so that when we, as voters, are not allowed to fulfill our task, this is my pain, calm down. and when it falls on our shoulders as voters, i believe that we will fully understand that , even if we do not look at how they sound, we do not have crazy populist politics, in principle , americans are enough calm reasonable people to make the right choice when it is given to us, they did it, well, on the other hand, you already understand that victory over trump is some kind of world of rehabilitation of history with the storming of capital, you don’t need to deceive yourself here says that he is ready to put the woman in prison further, i am afraid that there will be time left, as he said, he will not have a choice because when he won, he chose at the age of 16 , they told him, well, you promised us that you would now put hillary, hillary was released, you are putting her

remote control they don't have it, we won't do it, but over time, we see how he reached the point where he gradually replaced all the people he had, as it was called , fully adult, and all these people were replaced by the crazy, who then in in the end, they pulled it out with difficulty on january 20. when there was a change of power and it was successful. so trump is now going against the entire american system . he will win. he will need to destroy it . he will not have a second election. everything is on the same side trump russian and usual do not do not fulfill his threats if he has already received by blackmail what he needs but in

this situation and the second option he will need to destroy the american system , is it possible of course i think that we are absolutely uneducated because of how weak the institutions are that people are leaving because they say it's an abomination - it's not taken in their place until there are new ones, and this institute is weak. the institute is only in the universe as long as there are people. if you clean it, if you don't take it, how don't take a beggar and just don't take anyone, then it gradually disappears, we see how, by the way, the shublykans are successfully fighting , for example, the institute of higher education, which they do not see as a big threat, because the more educated people, the fewer republicans , and that's why they are always looking for a way to limit funding. - and the universities either to teach or they were terrified that they could be accused of saying something wrong, it goes on how do you

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now i don't know the time everyone will go to europe when they will understand what our war is over there thank you to our friends for their contribution to the victory we are infinitely grateful to our to the audience for solidarity , caring, with help. thank you to all the people who contributed to our common cause, the cause of our victory, we continue the informative film for the espresso tv channel with you vitaliy portykov, our guests today, nataliya chernysh, doctor of sociological sciences, professor of sociology at franko lviv national university, from the president of the sociological association of ukraine , and such a professor , congratulations , ms. nataliya, good evening. that wartime is trauma for society and people respond according to this trauma and therefore extrapolate their moods, say, to the post-war period well, to put it mildly, it may not be scientific. well, except for the post-war period

. that is true, but i will tell you one thing that i know absolutely clearly. our people love to talk even about their trauma, even when they do not have such an opportunity they are even happy with a sociological survey, that's why i'm convinced, i've been studying sociology for many years, that in general, most of them answer truthfully, and where they don't want to answer , they refuse to give an interview, or talk to sociologists who take these interview or ask to fill out a questionnaire, and according to our calculations, there are sociologists who do not want to answer because they may be afraid that their opinion will not be praised or that there are approximately 7-8%. that is, they have the right to choose or they participate in the survey and say what they

feel or think or not, i will say for example, what about the war in russia

, somewhere around 80% refuse to answer." that our people are not afraid to speak and answer honestly, i remember the times . i remember the times when we were rejected because of the foundations, the questionnaires were taken back why because they filled out the questionnaire with a pen with green paste and they were afraid that they would be found behind that green paste and you understand them and something will not be good for them that they will be punished where will you see this now , people are knocking everything down that they think in most cases without fear and this is a very good option , but that is not even what i mean. i do not completely agree with you that people can answer truthfully. i mean how established their position is, that is, whether it will change

it is the opposite of the day of peace, or simply the first day of peace in - i am for the first day of peace. i don't even think yet. it seems to me that it is still very far away, but you are also right about the whole plan, because our research shows differences between the 22nd year and the 23rd -m are already showing the differences. well, when it was in august, our director of the institute of sociology yevhen holovakha gave an interview, obviously most of those who look for sociology and simply for public civic sociology know him and he has two conclusions 22nd year and the 23rd thing changed, they became critical of the government, and the second thing that happened suddenly , as if they became more radical, so the relationship to the war, or at all, look at life

. now, i explain that they became more critical of the government. eggs, golden macaroni with gold, there is a short path from which to the golden toilet. well, this is understandable and it stirs people negatively, but this is what has become, and if the government will not spend the night, then such moods change, you see, because that is what in the states they call the the situation is fluid, i.e. fluid, that is, a change occurs in moods, statements, and so on. this is happening in a year, a lot has changed , from the total optimism of the 22nd year to such notes of anxiety, which means a critical attitude to the actions of the government, which can be good, and the second look, it suddenly became more ideologically engaged in ukraine, political

parties have always had the character of personalities who were led, yes, this is a party, let's say yulia tymoshenko is there, motherland and so on , most people knew by personality and now for the first time over the entire history of research, it has been shown that we have 57% of people who are not focused on a certain person, but on a certain ideology. and it is interesting that the more radical 19% of the nationalists chose such an ideological vector as support for nationalism and something like nine or eight. i don’t remember anymore. i don’t like numbers. by the way, in sociology, it’s better to talk about the claims and the rest of the national democrats, but the national democrats are nationalists . national democrats do you understand that this

gives a great advantage to the right over the left in the so-called traditional spectrum, i.e. there were 11 once traditionally the left, except for the so-called communists, well, the sentiments before that were well, the feelings were so blurred or that sympathies were there and so on. well, and now we see that they are electing the wrong person to lead this or that party. i don't want to idealize these changes, this radicalism. it seems a bit artificial to me, why because they are still more oriented towards party leaders, so if we had elections now, we still have two groups of sympathizers

, they have already divided and not so ideologically in the direction of the zelensky party and the party for zelensky, i am asking you between them more or less now. the balance between the two and this, by the way, is straining the office of the president , and it is very interesting that the third place is unexpectedly taken by a party that does not yet have a party with a party of a cozy party, there is not all of this do these people have no political ambition? not only that, but they are supported from below by the azov party, which is the same. and is it even correct to make such fantastically political assumptions ? well, we know that zelensky is the leader of the real party, and he supports it again. this is also a conditional thing, because there the party of the servant of the people zelenskyi can tomorrow change to any other party and become the leader of another

project . people with political ambitions. when they appear in real politics and their support immediately changes to zelensky, a good example is when he announced his political ambitions, his rating increased several times. and when he did not announce it, no one took him seriously. it is not a question for sociologists to get to the right-hand man. we can’t touch him and he won’t say whether it’s obvious . well, now it’s not so simple, or because of the changeability of those preferences. such a myth that is gaining momentum that he has such huge support in sociology, there is not just a figure of trust in this or that leader, but there is also mistrust, that is, he does not trust this leader, and just so you know

, zelenskyi has a negative overall rating , that is, there is a negative rating, and a positive one prevails confidence in zelenskyy because of that, say that it will surely be popular support, maybe you know, if there is a victory, there is a temptation even if there is a victory, that every person will understand a victory. well, this is also an important moment . we can understand a victory by some people who will vote for certain politicians are completely different, absolutely yes. i agree. by the way, sociology shows that ukrainians perceive victory as absolute , do they have any nuances? of course, there are four categories of people who imagine victory in different ways, the largest number of those that the borders of the 91st year, then there is a victory, this is a victory