[000:00:00;00] welcome to the espresso channel. today, in the difficult conditions of the war, ukrainian enterprises are creating new types of weapons for our army, from mortars and supplies for them to missile weapons, which looks especially relevant against the background of the statement by the president of ukraine about the need to increase domestic production and reports of successful tests of new missile systems with a range of up to 700 km. this should really be interpreted as a noticeable progress in the implementation of the state missile program, but should we talk about certain weapons projects in public. i think that without excessive detailing, it is still worth what the statements of the president from shakhtar of the national security and defense council actually demonstrate, because it has an important informational component . as for the practical side, then our companies and public and private companies that are successful in this

field need maximum support from me so , we will talk about the creation of weapons and the conditions for scaling up successful projects. today, in our military program with ukrainian industrialists and experts, my name is serhii zgorets, i am the director of an information consulting company of the defense express company, which, together with press channels, strives to highlight the most relevant trends in the field of security and defense, and now we are joined by vladyslav belbas, the general director of the ukrainian armored vehicle company, vladislave. congratulations, i am glad to see and hear you. good day, thank you for the invitation . thank you for what happened to our offer to tell a little about the activities of your company and i will start with the fact that just a couple of days ago there was information that the ukrainian armored vehicle company resumed production

of mortars of various calibers and at the beginning of the year at least 600 different mortars were delivered by the security and defense forces. i would like you to tell our viewers what exactly it is about resuming production . how long did it take? and what types of mortars can we talk about now ? thank you for the question. i will probably answer. let's say no, not fully disclosing all the information regarding the organization of the geolocation production process, why was it restored ? because the company lost the production site and the contractor's site in the temporarily occupied territory. we had to restore the production process at a different location, let’s say, at another location

, and changing the manufacturer, changing the contractors, in accordance with the standards and requirements of the ministry of defense, we had to pass qualification tests after that, that is, quality control by the customer very tough, especially for mortars , and as means of defeat, and we are talking about restoration, because we have already produced them since 2018, and the goalkeeper 82 mortar was put into service in 2018 and has proven itself well and was used. by the way active since the 18th year, and the mp-120 mortar was put into service before the start of a full-scale invasion, so its production was started, well, if it was organized from scratch, it was already wartime

when we talk about these additional tests, that is, it was necessary to confirm to confirm a certain let's say the quality of these three mortars, as i understand the caliber 60-82 and 120 km and these new tests, they were shorter compared to those of the state tests because we remember that history when it was necessary to fire as many as 5,000 mines under each mortar in order to prove the quality of each element of the mortar, how did it pass now more than 5,000 mines? that means, look , when it passes the development stage, you need to test the full resource of the mortar to understand its stability . endurance and also the formation of a set of spare parts of the so-called zpa qualification tests are a little simpler, they are less voluminous tests, but which provide for the full

scope of tests to confirm the declared characteristics and quality of products, that is, this time they did not fire 5,000 mines, or it is significantly less than several hundred, good. and you said that, or more precisely, there was a report that more than 600 mortars were delivered to the defense forces. is this, relatively speaking, a volunteer project on the part of the company itself, which there at its own expense made these deliveries at its own expense, such voluminous deliveries

. the use of volunteer funds of giant funds, but the recipient of the equipment is the armed forces and other power units of the authorized state, and are there any reviews from the military themselves who received mortars for these first batches? i think that there are also mortars 120 e-e 120 mm what are the most needed by our military, what is the reaction , what are the reviews, what are the first days of operation, the reviews are already there. eh and they start working right away eh of course there are also questions eh and breakdowns that arise , including warranty breakdowns or questions about operation, for example, this information that you took, you took it from the press release

in which the instructions for operation, this is due to the fact that there are cases when untrained personnel were allowed to operate if they did not learn the information about operation in a certain way, that is why we have published in open access a simple video instruction on how to use a mortar in order to minimize the task, let's say damage to the products or their breakdown due to operational errors, but when we are talking about the 20 mm minemec, your company has made certain improvements that make double charging impossible, and other know-how that should increase the operational combat capabilities of this mortar, these refinements already have, let's say so, a certain result in terms of the effectiveness of their use on the battlefield , of course, we started our experimental

design work with the fact that er, let's say so, from the duplication of the prevention mechanism double charging of the soviet e-e mortar 2b11, and already in the process of state tests of the mortar, we significantly refined it, changed the e-e metal composition , changed its design several times, changed it several times , tested it by firing and came to the conclusion that the fuse that we created, developed and produced e-e it does not fail as often as, for example, the soviet ones, however , you can see about operation on the internet. unfortunately, firing 102 caliber 120 mm mortars. i am not talking about our mortars, but about the use of mortars in general it is carried out in the majority, there are all the videos that i have seen from the battlefield , there is not a single video with a fuse, unfortunately, they are all

used without fuses, that is , the level of our military has probably risen that they remember that we threw them into the minus . it should be mandatory must explode, and regarding the cooperation regarding the formation of the resumption of production of mortars , how many ukrainian enterprises are involved in these projects? mortars, we have three contractors involved, but it must be said that this is under this contractors also involve their er, let's say this, suppliers of contractors, that is, one job creates 10-15 jobs in related enterprises , even related industries. and when we talk about a new policy, now the meaning of the word and mortars also abroad, there is price competition , if there is a government order there, are our

mortars or your mortars, will they withstand foreign deliveries, the question is interesting. thank you for such a question, it means it is complex. if to talk about the company's production of mortars, the company started production and development of mortar production in 2018 with, let's say, this new targeting, so that is, the finished product had to be cheaper than similar imported products in order to be able to supply e-e to the armed forces for the ministry of defense or other power customers and in this case , if the results were achieved if taken for comparison, i will not name there in absolute numbers, but the mortar is cheaper and

82 mm and 120 mm than foreign analogues in such the same configuration, because, for example, a mortar without fuses without spare parts without wheels can cost completely different costs if it has the same configuration and is possibly on par with or maybe a little more expensive than mortars from storage. production, and therefore completely competitive, and well, the price advantage, for example, in the 120th minometer is quite significant , it is somewhere around 20-30%, if you compare it with the tenders of the 19th, 20th, er, 21st, er, and now about e- well, having combat operations active and active procurement managed to lower this price a little from foreign suppliers, so there is a whole price difference of about 15-29%. well, this is quite significant from the point of view, well, the expenditure of state funds is a lot, but in addition to mortars, your company

also supplies 60 mm rounds to the armed forces. it was just recently that you established a partnership with foreign companies for the production of 120 mm mines, and a little more about this project how much time, how difficult it was to implement it, what volumes, relatively speaking , can be supplied to the armed forces at least oriented , what can you say , i will probably start from the end

, eh, this one is eh, hundreds of thousands, more than 100,000 units per year precise metalworking for blasters and capsules because of course it's not easy to establish such a cooperation and it takes time to arrange a shot a mortar shot to test it it's quite a long time our cooperation consists in a let's say so in the performance of those works by foreign partners cannot be either er made or there in the near future due to the loading of the production line made in ukraine , that is why foreign cooperation is used for this and it should be noted that by 2022, before the full-scale invasion of er munitions in ukraine, munitions in ukraine were not produced except

for the 60-mm mines you mentioned earlier, and there were also the development of 152-mm hyacinth shots , but they did not complete the state tests. fact and it should be noted that now the war is already active and we are engaged and ukroboronprom declared production. therefore, this is precisely the creation of new production sites and the expansion of their production capabilities, we can talk about the fact that you, in cooperation with foreign partners, created , relatively speaking, the first ukrainian caliber mine 120 mm can be said like that. so can this mine or a mortar shot. it needed tests, again, when we had to confirm certain properties of this mine in relation to

the debris. here are other parameters that are on that pay attention to the military. since we produced them, let's say operations with a foreign partner, we used uh that documentation. that's why it's there in detail i wouldn't want to reveal it but here already as an operation there was such a production cooperation and it's if this is a commercial moment and also an element of security so it's there in detail i wouldn't want to talk about it -e to say, but you used our production capabilities their experience is very similar to serial

production and testing and delivery, that is, this mine fully meets the requirements of nato and all the requirements for this mine are taken into account from the point of view of the requirements of our military, so there is a need for testing, which of course was not done , but you move on and the company supplied the armed forces and promises to continue to supply 122 mm caliber ammunition, this is high-explosive fragmentation ammunition for d-30 howitzers and self-propelled guns of the clove type . how did it develop with 122 mm ammunition, or is it similar mine is 120 mm er, a little, well, if you take it that way, it is really similar, er, the way of cooperation with foreign partners, er, in this case , it is similar, but it is other er partners, other productions, and another cooperative chain

er, but the principle it is similar to the formation of, let’s say, a ready-made shot from components according to our competences there, and here, too, it is necessary to note the difficulties that arise because, unfortunately, the production of gunpowder is very limited there in europe, and this is the main criterion, why well, the narrow bottleneck is the production of production volumes for example, the 122nd shot, that is, mine, about the fact that there is currently a shortage of gunpowder in europe, certain chemical elements are now affecting the fact that it is very difficult to agree on timely production , if it is timely, the prices will certainly rise, what is actually happening now in europe with

the production of ammunition for art systems for mortars, what is the situation there, i think you know it well, there is a fairly large shortage, as i said, for powder mixtures, e.e., for various , especially powder mixtures, e.e. let’s say so for the post-soviet hummingbirds e. and the busyness of production, european-style production is planned for years ahead, and therefore, let’s say, getting some components, getting some elements for a shot, buying some components is much more difficult than there in the pre-war period, and this is on the one hand, on the other parties, we understand that the european union, within the framework of its e -e guarantors within the framework of its programs for the provision of ukraine, is actively

providing domestic european manufacturers with orders for e-e stocks of e-e artillery caliber, here we mentioned the clip 60 mm 120 mm to mortars 122 to the arc systems, is the company going to move there and further there 152-155 mm , is it, well, in the business plans of your company, we are considering such a proposal, or rather, what is the possibility, but we are facing the difficulties that i mentioned earlier. it's not like that, it's just that, and there are also a number of technical issues, it's much easier to organize the production of 155 mm nato caliber , as far as the available component technologies

, etc. component and technology technologically it is a little differs from 122 mm, it requires different equipment for production , so there are difficulties that must be understood if they are to be implemented in the future. production and we are state and private companies, what would you like the most right now? well, it is necessary from the side of state institutions or from the side of state structures or really to produce more in the majority and more nomenclature well, my position has remained unchanged for many years of work in this field eh in order to have eh in order to

develop and have eh necessary volumes of supply long-term contracts are needed all the more so there is ammunition if we are talking about ammunition, which requires the presence of a production line that cannot stop, e.e. melting line, e.e. , stamping, and so on, so private manufacturers and i, as a representative of the private defense industry, e.e., we need a planned a long-term order and it gives the opportunity for private manufacturers to not need, for the most part, unnecessary investments in fixed assets if we are talking about the production of operational products. and we need planned orders more so that there are no

such minutes of figurative order when we produce something quickly, then we stop, then something again we produce quickly, this is the main criterion if the enterprise will have not only ours, any enterprise from the field of private pcs will have a long-term order, it will organize any serial production without problems, orthodoxy, thank you very much for the inclusion. for the work that your company does for our security and defense, i would like to remind our viewers that eterikospresso had a letter to belbas , the general director of the company ukrainian armored vehicles, which supplies our army with mortars and artillery shells. systems of various calibers

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, valentina. congratulations, i am glad to see and hear you. mr. sergey, i am always happy to join and discuss these issues, so i would like to start our conversation with the study that came out. on ukrinform, this study is under your signature, under the signature of academician gorbulin and the main question. the main motive there is the search for an answer to the question of how to stop russia and where to move . in ukraine and there is such a quote that in order to influence the aggression of the putin regime, you need to have obvious advantages over the group of occupiers, and not so in terms of the number of personnel, but in terms of the technology of weapons. what are you talking about in terms of technology, what are you talking about in more detail and can it be said against the background of volodymyr zelenskyi's statement about testing long-range systems at 700 km that ukraine is finally starting to take such noticeable steps on the way to

technology, well, we must start with the fact that we receive weapons for material and technical assistance from western countries through three channels. this is the largest such channel , so to speak, then the purchase of own e-e weapons of those developments of innovative solutions that are in ukraine e-e and e-e hmm the third channel is actually import, but there is one more nuance that will be said now only in development. yes, not the fourth channel, but this is a second addition to the second channel . - technical cooperation because it is these two aspects that make it possible to defeat russia

eh on its territory or deep in the occupied in the occupied territories as for example in the occupied crimea why is it important eh first of all eh we push back from the fact that even ot we will imagine a complete de-occupation. but after that, an even more terrible stage may begin, when almost all cities and those that will already be de-occupied, yes, following the example of kherson, yes, they will simply be burned by the enemy . we need things that will allow us to carry out a grain response to the enemy , a mirror response to the enemy, first well, there are two components now, and we have such ideas about the two most important components, these are missiles , missiles with a range of 500-1000 km and in the future

1,500 km, and we know well together what is being said it should not only be about cruise missiles, but also pro-ballistic missiles, and the fact that a ukrainian missile hit the s400 complex on the territory of crimea. it is definitely very important for us that it has been proven to us in practice that the construction and production of missiles continues and is being built up and probably this is simply a modification of the neptune cruise missile to the ground-to-ground class, that is , not as an anti-ship missile, but as a missile that will be used for land targets, and this is very important. i think that it is already being said