[000:00:00;00] a separate stand with plucked cherries from melitopol eh, in principle , next year it can be done with grain, but how realistic is your clarification, mr. serhiyovych ? we have specific data, even more, we know which ships, which ship captains exported this grain, who sold it, which have, which documents supporting this grain , we have all this data . among these of countries there is someone who belongs to the list let's say our strategic partners to the country that help us with weapons , for example .

grain is actually due to the pressure of the international community. thank you for this example , ms. olga, and we understand that we need not only solutions to such situational issues , but also a certain strategy and a certain plan in order to make these problems impossible created by russia for the export of ukrainian grain in the future. can we now, well, probably for the time being, at the level of one of the versions of the match, do we have a certain vision, at least a mechanism that could help secure even our exports in the future, ah, good question. i think that this question is very complex and we can spend another hour talking with you on it, but uh, if you answer briefly, we have a clear vector of movement and this vector of movement includes membership in the european union and membership in nato

, first of all let's say that so these are the framework ones security er and economic framework conditions which well, i'm sure will change, of course, in general, the map will be changed, let's say so, the economic and security here in europe, and, of course , the situation of ukraine, the situation of ukraine, the situation of ukraine, and in this sense, if we talk about eh in general, again i think that since 2014, from the first waves of russian aggression , we have learned that diversification is a good, let's say, economic safety net , diversification of economic ties, diversification of trade routes, etc. and everything else, because back then, too, when our exports, including agricultural exports, imports were 90% tied to the russian market, it was quite difficult for us

to leave even that situation. that's it, if we talk further about diversification, of course, we also see great potential in and to develop, let's say, additionally those sectors under the sectors of the ukrainian agricultural industry that will give the opportunity , regardless of the fact that we can and will continue to produce high-quality grains in large quantities or alina in large quantities in order to they are exported there as raw materials , nevertheless, they are really manufactured, produced. all this, here are the framework conditions for eu and nato membership, thank you, thank you for helping to figure it out olga trofimtseva, former

acting minister of agrarian policy and food of ukraine joined to our broadcast , thank you very much, let's actually return to what we started with. will be restored gradually after this meeting and do we need to restore it in principle and do we count on it given the treacherous behavior of our enemy? well, it seems that a lot has already been said in the studio about what the grain deal was, how it worked, it worked. well, maybe i don’t have the exact figures, half or not, but with

huge problems, especially the last attacks of russia on according to the desks, that is, he trained the agreement, and some new variations are proposed there, and these variations are supposed to be even wider, that is, the way it was before, it probably won’t be either practically or theoretically , i’m still quite skeptical i will repeat myself because of that that putin began to speak through lavrov's mouth because of some kind of guarantees that they said they need guarantees, that is, they say they don't give us guarantees. well, it seems to me that erdogan's trip will not be nutritious in this regard. or three years ago, when the editor there and urban met in hungary, there were

talks about it, including some russian representatives there, but then it did not work for them because turkey clearly stated or with ukraine or not at all, well, here we see that the russians continued to attack the infrastructure, that is, it showed that they are essentially trying to do maximum damage, even if something is renewed there so that ukraine will not be able to fully include it and so that even if any guarantees are signed there, so that there are insurance issues somewhere, all the others that have already been discussed. they did not, well , not all of them agreed to actually go for this grain, so it seems to me that this grain agreement has now entered such a phase of procrastination that it is used by russia for pressure, including, indeed, both to the west and to the south , that is, to put it briefly, the autogana meeting

with putin if it takes place this week. the results in general, in your opinion, in general , ukrainian farmers have coped well. let's say that they also coped with the challenges that they faced during a full-scale invasion. if we talk about the main problems faced by the agrarians even at the beginning of the war, and about which of them, well, if not completely, then the most managed to somehow be solved. year, this is not the financing of missing funds, cheap funds of the agrarian, this is problems with mineral fertilizers , this financing used to be state, some kind of help, skills, but no, banks financed

, lent, plus traders-exporters helped with resources and funds, that is all financial instruments worked, today they actually do not work, only the program works 5 7 9 this is good, but we need to expand the list of financial instruments for the ukrainian farmer, e.e., mineral fertilizers, then, traditionally, the problem of fuel prices, e.e., a problem with equipment during harvesting, during sowing fields, these are classic problems that flow from year to year, it's just that sometimes they are bigger, sometimes they are smaller. if we talk about the problems that are connected precisely with the war, we can say one thing that today we pushed off the bottom if we predicted a few months ago, our production would be at the level of 68-69 million tons of grain oil crops, today in our updated forecast it is 80 million, that is, our forecasts are improving every month, and this is

a pretty good sign for our agrarians and actually for our country today's conditions help our agrarians to grow a larger crop, which means that there will be more actually for export and the opportunity to earn money for agrarians, so today the main question is the impossibility of export and the possibility of reducing the cost of this exports, because the last two years, in fact, farmers worked at a loss and they need to somehow compensate for their losses, so this season we hope they will be able to earn money not to work at a loss to compensate for previous losses and work . well, let's say under normal conditions, it sounds extremely pessimistic somehow well, no, this is quite a realistic idea. i hope that it will actually be like that. and this is quite a good scenario. from the point of view of our agrarian, well, of course, i would also add that it is important to talk about demining

the territory of more than 6 million hectares today they need to be checked, not necessarily they are mined, but in any case, sappers should check these territories because there were either hostilities there or there is a risk of mines and this is also open, unfortunately, agrarians, tractor drivers , and we are facing a tragic ukrainian inventors who have already come up with how to sheathe tractors to protect the driver tractor, there is a practice of using drones with thermal imagers , because anti-personnel mines heat up during the day and are visible later through the thermal imager. well , there is a lot of practice on how to deal with that, but uh there are not enough funds for everything, but we are on the right track. thank you mr. serhiy serhiy vashchenko, the director of the ukrainian grain association visited us at the studio again. thank you for regularly visiting and trying to explain to our viewers such serious problems and how we solve them in

principle. conclusion there is only one thing that can be done, that despite all the obstacles that russia is trying to create for us, both politically and geopolitically , and in principle, in practice, in particular, with the hands of ukrainian farms, we are going and trying to find a solution to such problematic issues. thank you, and in particular, let's talk with the army psychologist andrii kuzinchuk, who joins our broadcast about front-line problems and the mental health of our servicemen. mr. andrii, i congratulate you. good morning, let's discuss a little bit the point that there is a problem of return from the war, if, for example, military personnel manage to get leave, for example. does he, er , hmm, he already manages to demobilize and return to civilian life, hmm, is it

a difficulty when they come, for example, to peaceful kyiv, they see people drinking coffee, walking, er, resting , in fact, hmm, they feel this cognitive dissonance. how do you help them deal with this, and how serious is this problem? when military personnel come to kyiv and see someone drinking coffee, it's not a big deal. the problem is a big problem, when they see that the cobblestones have been discontinued, it is a bit of a cognitive dissonance, considering how much it costs and how much we lack some means, what do we do with it before we send a person on vacation? we are talking we are simulating the situation so what will you do if you go into a cafe in uniform and handsome men in white sneakers will look at you and say that you are beautiful , your smelly bakhmut, then we try

to simulate this situation, what to do so that it does not end in some kind of aggression, so that it is not there was once a conflict situation , there will be a conflict in any case, but so that it does not end in a violent way, because everyone painted such a situation a lot, we already understand it in us , as the recent case showed in poltava yes, we still have citizens who do not treat us with respect, and in fact it is impressive. to conflict until that period until the prosecutor's uncle came and said it is enough to serve in the armed forces, to work for the penitentiary system, come to our zone here we are talking warmly about effective cases, we do not go into this, it is not ice that i am bad because i

i serve the armed forces, ah, to devalue him and bring him to nothing, that is, in no case should you cause physical harm, it is preferable not to cause psychological harm, except in those cases when there is really some kind of threat , well, at the expense of poltava, this uncle, well, it is so scary to serve him how complex is he? well, as a psychologist , i feel sorry for him, as a military man, of course , i would also like to meet him and praise him for his beautiful body, the cubes on his stomach and the cans he pumped well done, you me a lot of extra asthma and flat feet. well , in short, it’s all somehow, well, there’s too much to say. yes, we understood your message, which you wanted to say, but here it’s also interesting about the fact that ukrainian military personnel, in general, share with you what they

feel when they see that life continues in a peaceful territory, some possible reserve of energy is obtained from this, on the contrary, because i , for example, in social networks come across posts that live, contribute to the zsu, er, live each day as best as possible, because we are standing here uh, for you and for you, but please respect it, and it is, and we often talk about it. i say , you will go home, you will see that not only people drink coffee, but also work . stand-up comedian well, what is going on is not only life, the economic decision is cultural. you have to realize that your piece of this success

is due to the fact that you are very cool. in the social network so that people go to this whole topic because we have to realize that now winter is coming, we don't know what's there. the surplus of trees is preparing, but we've already learned to winter. well, there 's no light, nothing, and we need to realize that if something cool comes in our cities and villages, then we have to use it. well not like the last time, but you understand why there are festive ties due to the fact that the armed forces at one time localized the enemy, although not in the place where we would have liked, it would have liked to have localized it within the borders of the country in 1991 year, but still, there is some kind of conditional security, yes they fly rockets, but still sometimes, well, some people think that there is nothing like that, even though the front line is not here, that's all. thank god , i won't scare anyone, but for now

, well, i don't have any confidence, for example, a clear one . i have confidence in us, well, boy and in the girls who are standing well here, but how the war will show in the future is known only to the god of war. so maybe some politicians need to realize how cool it is. well , again, what you said is really a trend . i'm mysterious here, i won't reveal anything. is they allowed vacations, but now they don’t let them go for a very short period of time, but still , i have guys who go home and uh, someone went home and says i saw my mother for the first time in a year and a half or so, my wife, and it’s very cool . well, it adds some uh, well strength of energy, eh, to the fact that well, just add the military, well, the guys are very tired and i hope that they, well, those who come, then i ask how they came on vacation and they always say two options, either very little or i wanted to return

even earlier because i will not charge it's but it's normal it is not in the army that you realize how important and necessary your role is, but in civilian life it is not always possible to say so, there are two points that have been very hotly discussed in the media recently, these are a preparation for a protracted moral and psychological war and b preparation for a difficult winter let's talk about how to set yourself up, look, in fact, we already know how to do it, there are two things that, i'm sorry, it's also a thing that we learned to survive , that is, the army knows how to fight, civilians know how to support, now our next task to learn to live with all this, i.e. we already had winter and everything went bad there, we ran we need to realize well, first , realize how much cooler we have become, you know how to use batteries, you

know what kind of water supply we need in order to cook food, wash ourselves and so on things when you will prepare, it is not, not with sadness, we are preparing that by god we will be shelled because i became cooler or put it cooler that i can do it all correctly the account of a long war yes, it is well rather everything will happen, but this is the information we needed, because you remember at first they told us two or three weeks, guys, and everything would be fine , and then there was disappointment, now they told us that guys, you have the opportunity to prepare , that is, who does not charge. well, that's what you think to come or not to move, you can participate those who doubted to join the armed forces do not go welcome forward and here all these things on the contrary give us some additional information that will help us to be more effective in terms of

the moral thing, so please leave from us well, for example, the war will take a long time to get to the specifics. am i ready for winter? do i have clothes, food, and a safe place to be sad about it all? do i know what i will do if i have well, turn off the lights. if you don't know, contact experts, relatives to my friends can i come to your place what to do if such a situation happens, prepare it's also cool that we talk on september 1, how we will live on october 15, not october 14. we think about what to do tomorrow in advance, we become smarter and it's very cool because we we will not win this war by the number of rockets and ammunition although it is very important, namely with the mind. and while analyzing the affairs of mr. andrii, i recently saw such a discussion in social networks that people are arguing whether the ukrainians who have remained here in our middle of our country should in some

way encourage and persuade those who left to return, because there is a thesis from those who left, saying that what ukraine is doing to encourage me to return , and this, well, let's put it this way, causes certain indignation of those who stayed, especially likely those who are now fighting to protect our motherland from the invaders , but if you fantasize about such a topic, yes, do they have soldiers who are protecting us now, or do they have ukrainians who stayed in ukraine or who have already returned long ago and work there for the economy, just for our sake society o.t. do we have to do something to encourage people to come back abroad class but those that i have not moved somewhere and for me this thing sounds a little strange that we have to do something to come actually well i can

only say from the point of view psychological of life, people who left to escape from the invasion, they should not be subjected to any kind of condemnation. because this is a safe place . how, how, what is the right thing to do here inside ukraine, how should they be encouraged inside ukraine to return there, i just want to hear your opinion without any hesitation, so, so, behind all their messages, i feel that i am afraid to come here because i will not be able to become a full-fledged member of society, although it is important to me. it is not entirely correct that you owe me something so that i return, i can say yes, i would very much like those people who left to return to their homes

, but i am sure that this should be your decision not some kind of preparation, it's such top-class masks, it's like i can't go to serve in the army because i wasn't born for war , or i'm holding an economic fund no guys no no no if you want to go home come home it's cool here sometimes it's difficult here they can kill a-ah and here well, you have to take responsibility , but what can i say, it will be very interesting, create your own story with your own hands and not read snowballs, that's why for me this rhetoric is a little strange and it's really all steaming, that is, what exactly divides those who here and there no let's unite yes yes this topic is not at all

the survivor's syndrome you know they are talking about such things they will return how they will be perceived here they will not be asked and where were you during the war but we literally have a minute left p andriy hai very quickly yes, i very quickly, it is very important to create some kind of adaptation program for such people, that is, to realize what their role is to use the experience they gained there to communicate with those people who here accept that these are our citizens, our people, and in any case there will be some well, discomfort, what to do to discomfort, to add comfort to 10 people who will say oh my god, what were you doing there, america must seem like 20 people who will say uh welcome to ukraine everything will be fine we will win this war no only to the armed forces of ukraine and to all ukrainian peoples, that's the meaning, that's all with mr. andriy thank you, it

was andriy koziychuk, a military psychologist . thank you, and you were with me for the last hour. approaching victory, the enemies thought that independence was just a word for us, but already from the first steps on our land, they were convinced that for a century we defend our independence and are ready to fight for it

again. step by step they win, bite, squeeze out the enemy's claws, our earth, our will, our independence, we thank you for every moment and for this day, we prove our independence every day, when we say weapons, we imagine machine guns, guns, tanks or rockets, but an equally powerful weapon is a reliable communication of progress at the front and saved lives of comrades , the enemies were taken by surprise and the positions were recaptured , the reserves were used in time and the ammunition was delivered, in all this there is a great merit of our soldiers of the signalmen, armed with the signal

, our army is stronger. glory to the signal troops of the armed forces of ukraine, chevrons that bring victory closer, no one will tell me that i am a hero, and i am not asking. i am not here for this, they will not pity me when i am in trouble, but i do not need sympathy, i am not a hero, but the enemies are all stronger than me, this is not even work, this is a struggle

and they won't stop me. no ranks, no titles, no statuses. i'm not a hero and i'm not fighting against anyone. and for what and our goal, justice, we defend the state together. if a person close to you joined the armed forces of ukraine, you should know the rank , position, number of the military unit of the company - of the battalion, the contacts of the commanders and the contacts of the comrades will be useful. keep calm and support each other. the biggest war in history and the biggest factory of myths went to one of the biggest falsifications that they use and now in the war against

ukraine they have created a mirror, a parallel world, another reality, our great-grandfathers, all our great-grandfathers they told us with their lives, brother , so that no one would steal us from the fascists. the second world war is such a plane. we cannot look very narrowly, because it is definitely the second world war for them it is already the great patriotic war, we reminded or invented dates and even heroes that ends well, necessarily well and i am scared to death how the propaganda machine of the ussr worked during the second world war and whether the patriotic war is real the great myth of the greek story and also a retelling or a fairy tale and

in my house one's own truth sometimes a lie sometimes but not with the heroes of our program all this is the consequence of the purposeful policy of the st. petersburg kremlin strategy history from the language september 1, 1939 hitler attacks poland in two weeks of war destroyed a third of german equipment and on september 17 , the second front of the ussr is opened in poland