[000:00:00;00] tomorrow now serhii rudenko program verdict let's watch together good evening we are from ukraine glory to ukraine this is the verdict program my name is serhii rudenko good health to everyone and i congratulate everyone today in the program the arrest of kolomoisky smoke screen for partners or the fight against corruption will the odious ukrainian oligarch receive a court sentence personnel rotations in the ministry of defense instead of reznikov in merov, what to expect from this replacement the hope of the russian dictator what did putin and erdogan talk about in sochi, will turkey become a mediator between russia and ukraine themselves to

the g20 in india why the leader of china will not go to the meeting so what can ukraine expect about this and other things today we will talk with our guests and today we will be in touch with the former head of the security service of ukraine, people's deputy of ukraine valentyn nalyvaichenko and diplomats and the former ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america valery chaly however, how to start a big broadcast before starting a big broadcast

let's see how it was burning this night in kursk , it was hot this night in kursk, friends for those who are currently watching us live on youtube, i invite you to take part in our survey. today we ask you about whether oligarch kolomoisky will receive a court sentence. the guest is a people's deputy of ukraine former head of the security service of ukraine valentin nalyvaichenko p valentin i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air i congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes let's start our conversation with today after the sorochy meeting of erdogan and putin, the turkish president flew to putin and had a conversation about, including the grain corridor, about the future in ukraine, well, that's at least

what we were interested in, of course, the framework in which the negotiations between putin and ordan were held , it also touched on their economic relations relations will be sufficiently powerful. i hope that we will talk about it a little later. as for the grain corridor, there is no agreement . putin again blames the west and ukraine , saying that both the west and ukraine used grain corridor for tugaba to deliver weapons through this corridor to the ukrainian state well, if we go back to why this grain corridor arose and why exactly these agreements were because putin annexed part of the mor territory of the territorial waters of ukraine and in this way he acted in the role of a sea pirate who does not allow us to use his ports and his claims that he throws at ukraine and the west , obviously he should support yordagascar

to say that volodya well, you are doing it wrong because in this situation everything started with you and not with ukraine from the west, the essay is true, it is correct. everything is true. it was putin who destroyed the security in the black sea . second, putin and the russian troops and his black sea fleet, in principle, destroyed the safety of merchant shipping, that is , he went against the whole world, against all organizations, including the un, in relation to conventions on maritime navigation, it is this universal maritime convention that guarantees safety. putin destroyed it, and now

why did he do it? and with one goal : to push ukraine out of the grain and other markets of agricultural products, which the country supplied and is ready to continue, in this particular issue in this black sea supply to africa and latin america and further to china , including significant volumes. this is what, in fact , in addition to war crimes, crimes are committed by the black sea fleet of the russian federation and you asked sergiy, today the president of turkey, erdogan, visited putin in sochi, although the visit was actually planned for a long time to turkey. but putin is not just afraid , panicked, afraid to leave russia now because he has an arrest warrant from the international criminal court, that's why he is sitting in russia without a door. but that's why no less, the president of turkey came to see him today and they really talked about the grain corridor, about restoring the possibility of supplying grain to ukraine in the first place, and that in

such a package, then russia, turkey, the united nations for possible russian supplies of grain, but let's figure out what kind of russian grain it is. well, first of all, there is a lot of grain stolen from ukraine, from kherson, mykolayiv, and so on , from the zaporizhzhia region, where there were temporary occupiers or are until now, this is the first, the second , why so putin, uh is trying through president erdoğan, but in fact he wants to restore grain exports, but only for russia, because putin promised india tens of millions of tons of grain, promised qatar, promised other arab countries and huge millions of grain supplies, but now because war against ukraine, against us, he cannot fulfill these promises, that is why, behind the scenes, he is convinced that it was putin who convinced erdogan to do everything possible

to unblock so that it was us, that it was them, that is , russia supplied millions of tons of grain, but it is clear that russia is also against us and it is possible that its satellites are still trying so that ukraine does not return and restore that grain corridor. in this regard, for us , the task is very clear and not easy, but we must defend and restore the right to our grain corridor, this is ukraine, an organization of the united nations turkey turkey in all cases it is important because it is turkey that controls the bosphorus straits and others through which our merchant ships must pass in order to sell ukrainian grain on world markets from china to latin america - these are our national interests, but not valentine's meeting with putin and discussing

this grain agreement , a disagreement and an agreement . the sphere of influence, since the un asks for it, turkey asks for it, which means that it is trading with putin. is it necessary to trade with a terrorist and a blackmailer in this case? no , there is no need to trade, but i want to emphasize once again that it is putin and russia who are building , finding and encouraging such countries as qatar and others i asked india that both in the organization of the united nations and in the world they asked turkey to direct it so that it would appear that turkey and the un are asking russia no no, but in fact there is an economic

and huge strategic interest precisely for russia constitutes such a grain corridor, but if and as putin wants to continue the war against ukraine and so much for himself, for russia to establish such a grain corridor and such a grain agreement. this is what is behind the scenes. moreover, tens of millions of tons of grain are at stake and it is also very important, that is, the audience, that russia is not actually capable of processing such a large amount of food, but of producing products that could be competitive on the food markets, therefore precisely as raw materials , and as raw materials, putin wants russia too er, to export from russia through the grain corridor, and then i told the biggest buyers, and these biggest buyers, well, it’s clear that they have contracts , it’s clear that they have the capacity to process and manufacture products, but for russia , at least this way, at least those millions of grain that were stolen and

accumulated and were able to collect it themselves on the territory of the russian federation, at least bring it out and at least make money on it, because let's look at the real indicators of the economy, and russian attempts are in the red in a huge multibillion-dollar deficit according to the indicators of the first half of this year, other goods and products on which russia earned the same amount of profit, that's not why, in fact, the grain corridor is also a question of the survival of the russian economy, and that's why they are so desperately seeking this grain corridor for themselves and for themselves, mr. valentina, today oleksiy reznikov, the minister of defense of ukraine, wrote a resignation letter with a request for resignation, the verkhovna rada of ukraine should consider this statement before that, president zelenskyi explained that varshnikov is coming, let's listen to

what zelenskyi said oleksiy reznikov passed these more than 550 days of full-scale war. i believe that the ministry needs new approaches and other formats of interaction both with the military and with society as a whole . the ministry must now lead. valentines for you as a people's deputy and for a person who led the sbu twice. explanations why oleksiy reznikov is leaving his post. in other words, he is not being asked to resign because of the fact that there was corruption in the ministry of defense and he

speaks of the fact that we fought for ukraine for 550 days, is the issue of what happened in the ministry of defense with the change of reznikov naumerov resolved? the first and most important thing is more than 550 days of war. it is our defenders who are fighting for ukraine and honor to them. kudos to the change of the minister . i have long predicted what will happen. not only that, but it starts with the fact that during this week, in the verkhovna rada, we will indeed vote and remove this minister of defense , and i am convinced that the most important issue here is to first pass the lie detector regarding involvement in corruption offenses and the minister himself and his deputies, and the second is an anti-corruption check by anti-corruption bodies, for example, we have an anti-corruption bureau of ukraine , and every case that has become known and which is still unknown of possible corruption abuses by the ministry of defense must be investigated. it cannot be allowed, why is it important, because

it is necessary to purchase now from our front lines for our soldiers, for food, high-quality drinking water, and so on, and so on. the responsibility is directly on the ministry of defense and once again and one more time. do not have any illusions, in fact, the central authority for managing the entire defense sphere in ukraine is one , it is called the ministry of defense, it is not just some kind of administration. collegiality is one option , personal responsibility, and i know that, all social networks know it. all journalists have been writing for more than one month, and i don’t even want to count . but i will say this: nothing weakens us like top corruption in, especially in the defense and security

agencies, that is why the ministry of defense must urgently bring order to the mountain itself, and secondly, and in the event of permanent violations, everything that was stolen is confiscated and returned, i insist that the budget of the armed forces of ukraine is returned, is the rotation of the minister’s personnel rotation enough, mr. valentin reznikov as a minister has died, the rotation is definitely not enough, and here once again i emphasize the very important seas, first in the ministry of defense, as when professional military personnel from with an absolutely pure reputation of integrity, where to look for them and at the front, they are all at the front, in fact, and in the general staff, our pride, our real er, worthy military men, and that is where i would look for new members of my colleagues in the ministry of defense, that is, new deputies of the er, already new, now the minister of defense one event

of this weekend that is quite lively discussed by people, including in social networks , is igor kolomoiskyi and his admission to the pre-trial detention center shevchenkivskyi district court of the capital on september 2 chose a preventive measure kolomoisky in the form of detention for two months or with the alternative of paying a bail of more than uah 5,009 million . well, he is accused of fraud and money laundering, and it is known that he, together with his partner bogolyubov, took 5 billion 500 million dollars out of ukraine that is, against this background, the bail of 14 million looks like a pittance at all. well, at least for kolomoiskyi , kolomoiskyi said that he will not post bail for the time being, he

does not have such a goal, according to you, is such a bailment fair first and second, what exactly is kolomoiyskyi counting on? the first thing is that the search that was carried out on february 1 of this year kolomoiskyi 7 months have passed, and only in seven months they went to the first court session , and that was not on the merits of the case. that is, detention or non-detention is the second decision of the ukrainian court itself. it seems that this is the shevchenkiv district court. well, as far as i heard, the judge read for some reason called ihor kolomoiskyi a citizen of ukraine. this is a legal question, but what is it? the society should receive a clear answer. the judge will announce the verdict in which citizen of ukraine and whether he is a citizen of ukraine .

is israel and cyprus the third question? in these, in the text that was handed over, i suspect that this is fraud and the second is the laundering of illegally obtained funds, these are the so-called economic articles, but i can say that in the near future the prosecutor general of the office of the general the prosecutor's first step is to identify whether or not there are facsimiles, facts and evidence , i.e. corruption involved in money laundering up to the billions that you mentioned, which ukrainian journalists and independent experts call the withdrawal of billions and billions only in dollars of money from ukraine, which means that the prosecutor general must make a decision and transfer these parts of this fact to nabu. national anti-corruption bureau of ukraine

. i am convinced that the prosecutor general of the prosecutor general of ukraine should make a decision in the near future on the extradition or non-extradition of kolomoisky himself, because the united states of america and i know for a fact that the fbi and the us department of justice are continuing the legal procedural actions of the investigation into the facts of money laundering on the territory of the united states and there, kolomoisky and other persons are involved and are already going to us, for example, in the state of delaware, there are even courts, so i think that everything has just begun and it will not be limited to this one even on the territory of ukraine, there is an investigation into the transfer of money and in relation to these persons, starting with the kolomoiskyi game, you have already mentioned this case conducted by the united states of america, including the fbi. there, it is about

the laundering of hundreds of millions of dollars, they are moving in cleveland. this business has not started since 2020, although this whole business started in 2019, in 2020 he was banned from entering the united states of america as well as members of his family, it was in march 2019 of the 20th year, according to your under what conditions is it possible to extradite kolomoiskyi to the united states of america because pavlo lazarenko went there himself with a panamanian passport and ended up on trial . kolomoiskyi is supposedly a citizen of israel and cyprus and is supposedly a citizen of ukraine . i say this because a year ago there was a report about the fact that he was deprived of this citizenship , if he remains a citizen of ukraine , can ukraine extradite him to

the united states of america? can they take him there, conditionally speaking, as a citizen of israel or cyprus, let's all let's briefly explain to our dear tv viewers about pavlo lazarenko, the united states of america prosecutor's office so that california confiscates all 700 million dollars that he stole from ukraine, creating a shortage of antigla and barbud period. for the same years, he received an answer and served it on the territory of the united states , now regarding ihor kolomoiskyi in if he is a citizen of israel, which i think the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine should have informed the consul of israel and the consul of cyprus about the detention of their citizen in case if he does not have ukrainian citizenship, then extradition is decided upon request, if the american side asks about it, then to the israeli side, now ukraine, that is why i said that it is important to make decisions based on the fact that

the prosecutor general's office should simply be a company, and he is alive and well, and can be transferred and directly or through israel and through cyprus if it is a community he is a citizen of ukraine at the time i know so much and this is so the prosecutor general of ukraine is the head of the office of the prosecutor general of ukraine while in washington officially confirmed on behalf of ukraine that ukraine can and will hand over to the united states for extradition any top corruptor or any top offender and this without names. this was and is a direct agreement between the office of the general tour of the us ministry of justice and the office of prosecutor general in ukraine. that's all the possibilities, that's why i voiced them and voiced you on the air, and that mechanism is possible, and that

mechanism is possible, meaning extradition of the transfer to the investigative bodies of the united states of america, can you, mr. valentina, it will happen that kolomoiskyi will be released on bail already after zelenskyi flies to the united states of america for the un general assembly and the heads of anti-corruption bodies return to ukraine, well, actually the ukrainian authorities report that kolomoiskyi is in a pre-trial detention center, er , there can be no questions for them, and then there, in three weeks , kolomiyskyi will take 5,508 million hryvnias, he will simply be released on bail, it really matters for possible extradition or not, whether he will be released on bail or remain in the pretrial detention center, because the implementation of money laundering e-e on the territory of the usa is being investigated by the fbi in the united states and in the court there are relevant hearings and requests of the court but of the americans and in any case they will be

sent to the ukrainian side of the attorney general's office and in any case it will have to be decided by the attorney general's office here in in ukraine, there is another event of this night that is actively discussed in the media of ukraine and romania: russian shah-head drones fell and detonated on the territory of romania. the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine and the state border service say that they have irrefutable evidence that russian shaheds who flew to izmail. did they explode ? did they detonate already on the other side of the danube in the territory of romania ? what does kuleba say

? chess to deny it, well, it's pointless because there is photo evidence that something happened there, it fell, but it's clear that as a sovereign power, they took a break in order to fully investigate and draw conclusions. i understand that they have already drawn conclusions because they they said that this did not happen. romania is afraid of a war with russia. romania is afraid of dragging nato into a war with russia. what is romania afraid of? valentin, well, the reaction of romania is the lack of reaction of the ministry of defense of romania, what she announced is called the lack of reaction, like that they were not threatened by anything. you didn't threaten terrorist russian flying munitions barrages, that's exactly what the pickets broke on their territory, but i would say what we need to do well, not only a statement, and so you know

, we smiled, we joked, why aren't we kidding i think it was necessary to convene today. okay, tomorrow the ukraine nato commission , we managed to create it once . thank you. partners on antibodies of the coalition to solve two questions: firstly, what will be the response of the alliance with ukraine to such a terrorist attack by the neighbors of the territory of romania once and secondly, what will be the joint response of the alliance and ukraine to a terrorist attack again in odesa odesa of the port infrastructure, and this night also the dnipro

, because that is where most of the terrorist squadrons flew into the territory of ukraine . ground air missiles all spheres, i.e. sea sparrow missiles are very good missiles and they will help us, at least more effectively , to destroy terrorist aerial targets that are attacking ukraine from the russian side territory this is how, in my opinion, we should act, and this is how, in my opinion, other international partners should react, as belgium reacted, but mr. valentina, this is not the first time that nato countries have been hit, yes, or the violation of the border is theirs, this is also poland with helicopters from belarus this there are missiles that flew towards poland, and then it turned out that it was apparently our missile that shot down russian missiles and drones there, and the shaheds also fell on the territory of the army during

the previous shelling and izmail. and why why in actually, the north atlantic alliance does not react quickly to this, does not give such a reluctance , or do they think that they, well, in what way are they keeping russia from military actions? which are on the border with ukraine are so provocative. and for example, air incidents in the sky of the baltic states of all countries, e.g. finland or norway, russian warplanes have provoked american planes more than once, they predicted war even on the black sea, this will continue, but

what is fundamentally different is the terrorist attack by martyrs guarding the territory of ukraine with ammunition, our port cities and seaports and the territory of romania , that is why i emphasize that in such cases it is possible and necessary to initiate insisting that the ukraine nato council not only meet but also react, what kind of reaction is necessary from partners to insist more and more every time that the reaction should be to prejudice or the reaction should be to the destruction and prevention of further terrorist attacks by such martyrs or missiles on the territory of ukraine and our partners of the nato member countries, i am convinced of this, the more such opportunities exist and it is possible to defend them, only we need to initiate it, uh, such a safe chain of protection of the black sea countries of the nato member countries plus ukraine. and i will remind you that turkey, which we have already mentioned they briefly talked about bulgaria, romania, these are nato member states plus

ukraine , a future member of nato , that's right, thank you, ma'am, and that's how you should act without complexes. people's deputy of ukraine, former chief of the security service of ukraine, friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us on youtube, we are conducting a survey today we ask you about the following does the oligarch kolomoisky receive a court sentence and except after the era of zelenskyi, and your option, please write in the comments under this video further and then we are in touch valery chaly diplomat extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america in 2015-2019 mr. valery i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air . i congratulate you. glory to ukraine glory to the heroes , let's start our conversation mr. valery from the meeting of the sorochyn meeting of the presidents of turkey