[000:00:00;00] thank you, there will be a new defense minister in ukraine, how will he be perceived in the west, we are talking about all this on bbc news ukraine live from london, i am yevgenia shilovska, president zelenskyi announced the resignation of oleksiy reznikov and the appointment of rustem as the minister of defense in the mayoral changes, the verkhovna rada still has to go , but will personnel be affected changes to western arms supply so president zelenskyy in his evening address stated that he decided to replace the minister of defense and explained it by the fact that the ministry

needs new approaches of other formats interaction with both the military and society, these are zelenskyi's words already in the morning oleksiy reznikov submitted a resignation letter to the verkhovna rada, here is his actual resignation letter reznikov was the minister of defense for almost two years from november 2021 and headed the ministry of defense during a full-scale war for more than 550 days which was mentioned by zelensky and khresny when in his statements as minister of defense he convinced western partners to provide ukraine with more weapons, tanks, planes, and long-range missiles, all this happened during his tenure, and to appoint the new minister of defense, zelenskyi proposes to grow myomirov, we will talk about him a little later, because this is the first replacement of the minister of defense during the full-scale war of russia against ukraine, moreover, when ukraine has been conducting a counteroffensive for months, will the changes in the government affect what is happening at the front, analyzes the bbc diplomatic columnist poladoms a special surprise

since here in kyiv for some time there have been many conversations about the fact that mr. reznikov is going to leave, this is largely because over the past year there have been a number of corruption cases scandals at the ministry of defense related to the purchase of equipment and food for the military or the possibility of bribing officials to avoid being drafted into the army. so president zelensky played a great game of enforcing corruption where he sees it, this is almost certainly part of what he thinks is necessary to support membership of his country in the eu, therefore he decided to take this step by appealing to the parliament to support the release of mr. reznikov, there are no assumptions that mr. re is personally involved in of any corruption, but they think the fact that he headed the ministry where there were so many reported cases meant that his fate

was obviously decided a long time ago p well, more precisely, it is possible to resign, since the verkhovna rada has not yet voted on this issue , so the possibility of mr. reznikov's bid was discussed at the beginning of this year, and when journalists unearthed, so to speak, the first such corruption scandals, the famous eggs cost 17 hryvnias in fact, then oleksiy reznikov proved that he personally had nothing to do with these tendentious purchases, his deputy vyacheslav shapovalov was arrested, but the chair under the minister of defense faltered and even his replacement was already being discussed in the servant of the people faction

in the summer, these rumors are not that much, if they intensified , but they continued, and here is the latest scandal with the zaku spilkuyutok. to point out that mr. reznikov, actually, he had no direct relation to the procurements, he cannot be accused of anything, in fact, this is a matter at the level of the competence of his deputies , the heads of the police department, that is, to say what exactly he will be responsible for for any obvious acts of corruption fired, it's also wrong, rather, there is a certain set of factors here, and only this negative train is publicly one of them, and that's why such a situation actually arose that it was time to fire reznikov,

so to speak, and zelensky took such a step. well and if we talk about what changes will happen, the replacement of the minister of defense on the front will not affect the negotiations with partners, the negotiations on weapons, the same participation in rammstein, how can it be affected, and you understand the situation as it is, it is very strong the negotiator is obviously mr. reznikov, he actually fulfilled his mission, let me remind you that ah well, in fact, this person agreed on all the supplies of weapons to western ukraine, starting with the walls of portable anti-aircraft systems and ending with f16 aircraft, that is, the entire line of weapons according to which

maybe we could only dream, but the executioner was executed in the position of the city of defense. actually, all that remains is to maintain such a level of cooperation, and not to agree on something new. appointed by the defense city is also a very strong negotiator. he has no military experience . he is not an expert in defense technologies, but everyone determines his ability to conduct . it is less important, perhaps even more important with the eastern and southern partners, if you can say so, with the countries of the arab world , with turkey, the same country with which panomera is very closely connected, that is, in the negotiation track, ukraine will most likely not lose, and maybe even gain after the replacement of the minister of defense. and as you have already mentioned , this should not directly affect military operations at the front, since i will remind you that, unlike russia and many

post-soviet countries, in ukraine in recent years there has been a clear separation of powers that is, the minister of defense and the ministry in general does not in any way influence the planning of military operations and occupies more of such a logistics function, that is, if there is a direction of agreements on weapons and the formation of a general defense policy , this is the situation oleg remains , please we will talk about the growth of momerami later, and now we will listen to what other observers say, yes, reznikov's resignation is taking place against the background of scandals in the ministry of defense, we have already mentioned the scandals with the purchase of egg jackets, but commenting on these changes in the ukrainian government , western commentators in one way or another talk about the fight against corruption, in particular. this is how a viewer of the british newspaper guardian commented that all

reznikov had been under pressure for some time due to a series of corruption scandals. a few months ago, we even thought that he might resign, and the americans then they really wanted him to stay in office as the minister of defense, reznikov's main goal or even the key function was to negotiate the supply of weapons and their logistics in ukraine were agreed upon. we still need more weapons she still wants more weapons but many big mountains in this direction have already been reached talk about rocket salvo fire systems haimas she has challenge leopard tanks and soon what i will tell you very recently a decision was made about f16 which will appear on the battlefield in a few months so for the president it may very well be a time for change. when he can release together as uh until the present time to go because so many agreements

have already been concluded and it is time for change, of course what we see in the work of the zelenskyi administration - this is an intensive focus on trying to eradicate corruption and strengthening anti-corruption measures. why, because ukraine wants to join the european union, and therefore it needs to improve its results in anti-corruption activities and the fight against corruption, another columnist confirmed by kins from the atlantic council analytical center. this is what he said on the air. bbc changement in blue it is true that this is the biggest change in the government of the first full-scale invasion more than 18 months ago, the accusations that they are being made against minister oleksiy reznikov who leaving his post may not be unreasonable, but they are small in scale if you take into account the amount of military aid that ukraine receives, in general, they relate to internal procurement issues regarding such things as the winter form of eggs, food, but ukraine

is trying to demonstrate that it is absolutely intolerant of any form corruption and of course any assumptions about corruption in the security sector in the military and defense sectors of the country are especially toxic at a time when ukraine is trying to convince the world and its international partners that they can ninth ukraine that ukraine is a reliable partner and the help they provide reaches those for whom it is intended in p omirova has no work experience specifically at the ministerial level, but he got it as the head of the state property fund that conducts and controls privatization programs, so there is a strong anti-corruption aspect in this role, he previously participated in negotiations regarding the exchange of prisoners and also with the grain agreement that was reached in the summer of last year with russia, oun and

turkey, so for some time he worked for at a high state level, his main task will now be to continue cooperation with international partners of ukraine and at the same time actively fight against any form of corruption in the so-called gray zones in the ministry of defense in the procurement system in order to guarantee their transparency, it is also worth noting that mr. unerov is a crimean tatar representative of the muslim minority of ukraine therefore, his appointment to wesley is the diversity of the ukrainian government, now it has a jewish president and a muslim defense minister. therefore, this emphasizes the absurdity of russia's attempts to sometimes portray ukraine as an ethno-nazi state, in my opinion, the change of the minister will not have an immediate impact, i think the ukrainian troops now have what they need, the generals have their plans and they will continue to implement them. but i think that this can really raise the morale of the soldiers on the front lines who sacrifice lives and suffer significant losses reports of corruption in the ministry in the defense sector behind the front in the rear in kyiv and other places cause extreme damage and

greatly undermine morale so i think the servicemen will accept the news about this replacement as a step in the right direction, but i don't think that changes will happen right away, he is the head of the state fund, he mentioned what kind of defense minister he will be if, of course, his candidacy is led by the verkhovna rada, well, it is quite difficult to predict what he will be like , they have already pointed out correctly that he has very little experience at the highest levels levels of ukrainian government, i.e. he was the head of the state property fund for less than a year before that he was a member of the verkhovna rada from the voice faction in the 19th year before

that he was as non-public as possible as a person, he was engaged in business quite successfully, but his main functions, so to speak, consisted in representing the interests of the crimean tatar parliament and its leader to help its leader, well , articles of dzhemilov, for example, he was engaged in helping him in economic and financial matters. where he is a specialist and he accompanied him to the international team. that is, apparently dzhemilov is his successor or the referee chubarov. managed the issue of crimean tatar political prisoners, these are the crimean tatars who remained on the occupied peninsula and whom russia

began to persecute . miomerov, so rustem the mayor also contributed to this exchange, and again , it was absolutely not public, that is , he is a master of smoothing such negotiations, where the main thing is to get a result, and not some kind of pr or some kind of public position to appear like ours colleague svyatoslav khomenko wrote that in the candidacy of the deceased they see such a message from the ukrainian authorities to western politicians, they say try to talk about the fact that the war can end without the liberation of crimea . unfortunately, oleg, we have to end our broadcast with this new minister of defense. thank you for being with us on this you read more and more news on our

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we are next to them my greetings, you are watching svoboda life my name is daria kudimova and more about the main thing, as of the evening of monday, september 4, now officially growing into the mayor in replacing oleksiy reznikov as the minister of defense of ukraine, how important is the head of the ministry of defense for the western support of partners and what challenges will be faced by the newly elected minister, as well as how the replacement of reznikov will affect the front, the meeting between erdogan and putin yesterday, the turkish president talked with the head of the kremlin about the renewal of the grain agreement and the russian-ukrainian war or will moscow agree to work on the grain corridor and what will it demand in return? and also about why erdogan again offers mediation between kyiv and moscow and does the reprimanded visit to russia mean a radical change in ankara's policy, and she lost her father in the war and is rushing to the front herself, 15-year-old yaroslava is studying at the bohun military lyceum and dreams of becoming a scout, how does dad still motivate

a girl and does her family support her choice , the history of the crane family today, svoboda life , from the female minister of defense, people's deputies will vote tomorrow, oleksiy himself reznikov published a resignation letter this morning, he posted the corresponding photo on his twitter account, in his address , reznikov wrote that in 22 months he completed the key tasks that were set before his appointment, according to him, this is the building of a long-term partnership with key allies and the reform of the department in in the field of procurement, the statement was already supported by the parliamentary committee well and added that the day before in the evening address, volodymyr zelenskyy confirmed that he had decided to fire minister of defense oleksiy reznikov a in his place to propose the head of the state property fund, mamerova, in fact, about umirov as the future

head of the defense department, people's deputies reported last week, and the mayor himself has already submitted to the verkhovna rada a statement of resignation from the position of head of the state property fund of ukraine, this was announced by the speaker of the parliament, ruslan stefanchuk. well, how residents of kyiv react to the replacement of the minister of defense, the correspondents of the routers agency asked on the street whether they are satisfied with the work of oleksiy reznikov, listen. i believe that he should answer for what he did did in the chair of the ministry of defense for the prices of food for the army for the uniform is difficult at the moment it is difficult to evaluate because we do not know a lot and it is probably correct but again, well, i think that everything he did

probably it was for the benefit of our state well, i think that he is timely, because there is a lot of information in the mass media about the fact that the cow's department has big problems with corruption there during procurement and so on, and i , of course , did not hear any reasonable explanations from him on the internet and television because what is happening seems to me that he was a good minister of defense, he fulfilled his functions 100%. it is not that i have a negative attitude towards the person of reznikov as such, but uh, if there is a change from a mature to a mature one, fresh blood must be done, uh , there are complaints against him , there will be some investigations by the relevant authorities, what mistakes did he make in the supply and procurement well, but there are no people who are not wrong, i don't think that he is

a thief and a robber, but i don't know, well , everything was fine, well, that is, how i liked it he behaved the way he did what he did, there was some kind of scandal and probably something related to it well, but i don't know any evidence for sure, but in principle well, i like that the new minister is now, well, who is being proposed as a candidate , that is, in the mayor's office, this and that in principle it's cool serhiy rahmanin , people's deputy of the voice faction, a member of the committee on defense and national security and intelligence, joins our broadcast p. serhiy, good evening, my greetings . he was there for almost two years, here he in particular indicates a change in the paradigm of thinking of kyiv's western partners. do you agree that minister reznikov really played a key role here and how

would you rate his participation in this process? well, that the paradigm has changed is an established fact, and to what extent did it affect the position of directly differentikova well, i can't judge this for sure, but i know that for now the current minister, i would like to remind you that despite the fact that oleksiy yuriyovych wrote a statement, he is still the head of the ministry of defense, but i know that the joint minister was involved quite actively and i can say quite creatively, i was definitely not directly involved in most of the negotiations, but i can refer to the point of view of several diplomats , and not related to each other, who said that many weapons and weapons were received thanks to the personal efforts of two two people for the first time two people first of all two colors i did not call president zelenskyi and the minister different because i think that in principle his

personal merit in the fact that we received certain types of weapons is high enough on one on the other hand, there are definitely questions for the ministry of defense, but not always questions for the ministry of defense, the same questions for the minister of defense. there are relevant bodies. they have results, mr. sergey. and if we talk about interaction with ukrainian deputies, how often did mr. reznikov report to the deputies of the specialized committee and what are the main questions you have about his work in this position? well, he appeared on the committee often enough in various ones, and we must give him credit. he held personal conversations and there were not always pleasant, i cannot and do not want to go into details because these conversations took place at closed meetings as limited by certain procedural moments, so i cannot go into details, not always these conversations

were pleasant, it is clear that the issues that were the most acute, it related to obvious things, it related to the supply of supplies ah, that is, open procurements, which related to fuel and lubricants , food, clothing, winter and summer. including at those meetings that in relation to this issue there were complex issues regarding the supply of weapons, they were related to debts with non-delivery of a-a a whole series of weapons, weapons, ammunition in accordance with the contract, although you have to give it to you , you have to be honest, it was not always there were punctures the ministry of defense had a lot of questions for our partners, who did not always fulfill the duties assumed, although

there were certainly questions for the officials of the ministry of defense. i will simply remind those who do not know that the ministry of defense is the largest the most difficult thing is that the ministry is actually a state within a state. if i am not mistaken, the minister of defense has eight deputies, if nothing has changed, but peugeot is one minister, there are not so many uh, well , let's say, clusters of this number of deputies. to remind that he worked very hard, probably the most difficult for the ministry, the most difficult for the country, mr. serhiy, and for the mayor . so it will only be a formality and the decision will be made this week. and why do you think the choice fell on rustema mirova and

how correct is it from your point of view ? assumptions i would, with your permission, probably draw an analogy between uh, the recent appointment to the position of the minister of defense in great britain, yes , please continue hello, i 'm losing connection, i'm just not going to do anything analogies with the appointment of the minister of defense in britain have recently marked grant, a handful of people who are also far enough away from the armed forces and defense, unlike his predecessor , who would take care of a lot of emphasis, and regarding the appointment of security officers, british observers and british experts , when they noted the logic of this appointment , tried to be more precise to grope the whole thing, they said that there are only a few advantages that there will certainly be questions right now in this

position, he is constantly learning. he is a professional manager he is an almost impeccable communicator and he has a huge number of different connections that are important and useful . i think that all this can be extrapolated and the number does not grow. i don't know if this was the argument when president zelensky was elected a candidate for this position, but in principle, all these virtues, all these signs, all these traits that i have listed, they are inherent in our growth and will probably be written down now in this position. well, there are probably a number of other circumstances. designate a person who is a representative of the crimean tatar people, it is important. it is certainly not a key, not a basic one. but maybe it was also taken into account when this issue was discussed

. well, as far as i know, first of all, he has a very working and positive relationship with the president's office, because different times arose from time to time. well, if there are no conflicts, at least from time to time there is friction with the office, they were not public, but they were, let's say, despite the fact that the representative, so to speak, of the eastern people in the eastern-southern region, he is very well-balanced, very restrained person. well, plus one more point, it seems to me that he also gives a very important and rostem rostem knows how to establish contacts well, i was surprised , for example, the statement of shabunin, i don't remember which one i saw in some medi in some he said that he is hated by the vast majority of ukrainian deputies. i don't know where he got the basis for such beacons, forgive