[000:00:00;00] the weapons that you are talking about, i have seen what expert opinions are, that there were allegedly misunderstandings with the bank, that you did not push as much as possible, in particular, the f16s that you mention , well, apart from the corruption scandals, of course, which were purchases from the ministry of defense. of defense depended on the fact that taurus is not ready to supply something and the americans give f-16, is it actually affected by something other than the political will of the partner countries? i think, for example, if we talk about f16, then this is pure politics inside the united states. elections are coming up they are political technologies. i think the white house and other representatives or candidates are already calculating their actions exclusively with the schedules of the election campaign, and that's why i , for example, have my own hypothesis about how in 16 they will give us f16 at the moment

when they they will understand that there has been a breakthrough in the southern region, that is, if we now succeed, for example, during the autumn campaign , to break through the defenses to melitopol, then they will give us planes literally in december in january , because it will be beneficial for candidate biden to show what are you looking at ukraine is successful we let's give now for 16, and if we are currently conducting defense in the south, well, it is easy to predict that in the spring, summer, just before the elections in the fall of the 24th year, just before the election of the governing states, the ukrainian army will already de-occupy donbas and crimea, and it will be very good connect these events with the election race. if ukraine does not manage to break through the southern front now, for example, i can predict that these f-16s may delay us until november 24th , well, under various pretexts, they did not learn the language there , the weather changed or something else, that is, from there were different ministers here, nothing really depended on

the bank or other ukrainian forces, and so i think i tried to the maximum. levels i can't understand at all why they don't hand over these missiles to us france and britain have handed them over and the united states won't hand them over, well, i can't understand any explanation here do not forget to subscribe to the youtube channel of radio svoboda telegram search in telegram radio svoboda about everything the most important thing is quick and short well, please like this video so that we can reach as many audiences as possible and deliver important messages. thank you for your trust . we will see you as usual on svoboda life

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hours, vasyl's big broadcast of winter, a project for intelligent and caring people in the evening, the espresso is the 23rd separate rifle battalion of the armed forces of ukraine now we are already in such a significant salient . and in fact, at the very edge of this salient , we are holding the defense, the battalion has wedged itself into the defense of the orks in donetsk region and is holding positions right now, the military needs our help fighters need drones to lead development and destroy the enemy even on the approach, we take the approach every drone is the loss of the enemy and the saved life of our warrior, join the gathering , we will show our fighters that we are next to them . i congratulate this exclusive interview on espresso, my name is yuri fizer and my today's guest is the ambassador plenipotentiary and extraordinary of the united states of america in russia in 2011-2014, as well as the director of the freeman institute

for international studies at stanford university, michael mcfall. we will talk with him about a lot of things, but uh, mostly, still, to the great regret of russia, about the war that russia started uh, last year and has been waging for more than a year and a half, about our victory . mainly about russia and its brutal war that putin started in february 2022, as well as about our victory , but not only about that, well, here are your questions. you wrote an interesting book that i bought and read . the book is called the unfinished revolution in

russia, political changes from gorbachev to putin. changes took place but why there was no revolution this is a complex big question that is difficult to answer when i wrote this book in 2001 it was after ten or even 15 years if you count the gorbachev period of political transformations in the soviet union and then in russia n and something was achieved then or so we thought, first of all the collapse of the soviet empire took place and 15 countries including ukraine and the russian federation gained their independence and compared to other collapses of the empire it was relatively peaceful at least until last year, for the second time, they made the transition from a predominantly command-administrative economy to the market, i wrote that the transition from

dictatorship to democracy took place, but it was ambiguous and it is a little disturbing that in this book , where i consider various elements, i said that there was no democracy in russia consolidated and tragic that now after two decades we see that putin took advantage of these weak democratic institutions, he destroyed them today i witnessed the return of the russian dictatorship that it was known in advance that this would happen if, for example, boris nemtsov became the next president of russia, because there were plans to anoint him as boris yetsin's successor , the tradition could have gone the other way, but in retrospect, there is no doubt that these institutions were weak and too fragile in 2000 , when putin came to power and this allowed

him to to actually destroy uh speaking of putin you know him quite well is the putin of 2000 different from the putin of today that's a great question well i'm the answer and yes and no a-a in 2000 he was anti-democratic but he wasn't like that from from the very beginning i wrote my first article about putin in 2000 warning the world about his anti-democratic actions he was always an imperialist he mourned the collapse of the soviet union he was from the kgb and spent his whole life defending the soviet empire but 20 years ago he was much more pro- market and pro-western on market reforms , he lowered the individual income tax

and moved russia to a single tax of 13%, he lowered corporate taxes and respected private property, not so much, he restored strict state control over the economy especially after the invasion, he was in your ukraine for the second time. once he was open to interaction from the west. he even talked about russia joining nato. by the way, i am reminded because today he says that you are not nato in everything and he was forced to invade ukraine due to the expansion of the north atlantic alliance, but 20 years ago he was not afraid of nato, he wanted to join the alliance and even said about ukraine in 2002 that if ukraine wants to join nato, it is their business, not

ours, so in these two aspects he is significantly changed his thinking and the latter he became a much more nationalistic patriot who allegedly professes conservative orthodox religious values, i wouldn't call it conservatism, but it is something that did not exist 25 years ago, he changed. i think that one of the main drivers was that he became more authoritarian more to be afraid of his people and therefore he needed an external enemy to justify his authoritarianism with anti-western and anti-ukrainian secondly, he is afraid not of nato expansion but of democratic expansion in 2000 georgia in 2003 most importantly

the orange revolution in your country was a threat to his authoritarian way of ruling, and of course later the revolution of dignity became an even greater threat, but not to russian security, and here i want to make it clear that in 1941, from the time when hitler invaded the soviet union, there was no military threat from the west in relation to russia , but the expansion of democracy threatened putin's rule inside russia, that russians need a strong state, russians do not need western methods of governance because they are different i remember how in 2011 i was at a meeting with him, and then vice president biden , and he talked for a long, long time about the fact that russia

is not part of europe, is not part of defense, he says that ukrainians are not a separate nation, that you are just russians with an accent. it is either a historical coincidence that ukraine became an independent state. this is another of his very strange arguments. if ukrainians practice democracy, the slavic peoples can do it, so what threatens the management of your country in the first place and also of mine? enemy countries from outside in order to legitimize their dictatorship at home, unfortunately uafeng, you are often called the architect of president obama's reset policy

regarding russia, this was 10-15 years ago, you really believed that relations with the kremlin at that time could be changed. come on, i think there is many did not understand what we were trying to do then in 2009 we sat in the white house and determined our national security interests and the highest priority one of those priorities was the need to cooperate with by the kremlin, then president medvedev, and by the way, in 2009 he was radically different from the crazy medvedev that he has become today, it is very important to understand that he was completely different, well, i will give a few examples , in 2009, the treaty on the elimination of medium and short-range missiles expired and president obama decided that

the u.s. military service corresponds to the national interests of the united states and that without the russians it is impossible to negotiate arms control, so he said that we need to enter into negotiations with them and the aircraft signed a new treaty on sno-3 dsn o in 2010 reducing nuclear weapons in the world by 30% a friend he decided that we should stop ierang from keeping nuclear weapons and for this he wanted to introduce multilateral sanctions against iran it is debatable that this was the right decision, but with his lips he wanted to impose a lot of external sanctions for this, russia had to vote with us, which they did . by the way, at a meeting of the un security council in the 10th year, we decided to lead our troops to

afghanistan in an effort to defeat terrorism there we were also going to fight terrorism outside the borders of afghanistan including in pakistan but at that time 95% of our supplies went through pakistan so president obama had the idea that we needed to diversify our supply routes to afghanistan and that meant going through russia through the so-called the northern distribution network we had to negotiate with the russians and by the way we violated the sovereignty of pakistan in 2011 and killed bin laden himself we could only do this through diversification i think that many people misunderstand our desire to have good relations with russia sounds like for children although maybe others believed i don't even believe that our allies believed in it like me we should not choose mood music or a positive attitude towards the country as our

goal the goal should be specific tasks that advance national interests, in the case of my ukraine, the interests of the united states of america, so for a certain time we did such things. this is how it ended, of course, for two reasons. first , putin returned and he was not interested in cooperation with us, and secondly, there were mass demonstrations against the putin regime in 2011 and 2012, and putin accused us and me personally of these demonstrations as a result of cooperation on other issues such as iran or north korea or even syria, which was being established in 2012 for 13 years it turned out to be impossible with putin who was in the kremlin because you know them very well because you lived in moscow for 4 years why according to some estimates

85-90% of russians support putin is it because they are afraid of him or maybe they are fascinated by his imperialist ideas or maybe they just don't care why it's hard to answer your question because it's hard to understand what people really think in authoritarian countries it's possible to remember that you can't do a real poll in a country like russia because people are afraid to say what they really believe they have no incentive to talk about what they have in mind, secondly, i got the impression that putin's terrible barbaric invasion of your country enjoys considerable support. to be honest

, i am not surprised, but deeply disappointed by everything it's not just putin 's war in ukraine, it's the russians' war in ukraine. we have to admit that it's not a one-man war so that putin doesn't get involved in it. putin doesn't kidnap your children, he doesn't rape your daughters and mothers . i think it's very important to understand what exactly russians kill and russians commit these crimes against humanity and not only vladimir putin regarding your other question. it is definitely true that propaganda and repression work well . 25-year prison terms, for example, volodya kamurza, whom i know well, ilya yashin, they criticized the war and are now in

prison, and this scares other russians from protesting. there are russians who support this war and imperial ideas, while i live in russia in the 90s years ago, i would never have thought that they were capable of reviving stalinism, this is the result of 20 years of propaganda on the part of putin, it is not deeply disappointing, but there is another segment of russian society that simply lowered its head, they do not support the war, but they are not against them, but they are just trying stay away and these people instantly change their minds if they change the condition

. if putin says to end the war, it is interesting where russian potion sparov said in an interview with a ukrainian channel that russians are unfortunately getting used to the war used to the war and y they are getting used to supporting it and putin present putton of course we will win in a while putin will lose but those russians who are used to war will remain the western world the democratic world must do much more to make them pay the price for supporting this war i work with andrii the president in the working group on international

sanctions that the western democratic world must increase sanctions so that people feel the war more directly in particular it is about the fact that too many components from of the west is involved in the production of weapons in russia and this must stop too many russians who have not been sanctioned work for companies and political parties that support the war sanctions need to be expanded. it is too comfortable for russians to travel to supposedly hostile countries. this is the world. stop the 360 ​​billion dollars that were frozen in the russian central bank. they need to be transferred for the reconstruction of ukraine. so that the russians feel the consequences of the war they support. so in

my opinion, this is the first step, then in the long term the defeat of putin's army in your country must take place for the people to finally abandon their imperial ambitions, and sometimes in 1991 they failed to do so there is a big difference between germany in 1944 and russia in 1991. then boris yeltsin tried to put the communist party on trial , there was not enough support. so they never had remorse, they never had an awareness of the evil that soviet imperialism carried. unfortunately, while putin won't lose this war in the middle of russia this process won't start

what is putin most afraid of now i mean what could be the weakness of his rule and again a great question to which i unfortunately don't have a great answer but i think there are several important things that i would like to say about putin and his box that putin is such a match that cannot be cornered , he needs space, he needs ukrainian land to end the war, i do not agree with this, then he is not as desperate as people think about him there are several examples when he was pressured, but instead of escalating , the renegade president warned putin to stop flying his

planes through turkish territory, eventually he got tired of it, he shot down one of these planes but as a result he did not do anything, the fact that putin sent lavrov there , and he himself spoke online shows that he is afraid of the un international criminal court, we do not see a sympathizer who defies the west , we see a coward who is afraid of the west, it should reach us so that putin is not worth fearing if you can boldly challenge him and eventually drive him away. so, the answer to your question is that i think that he is most afraid of losing crimea, he is afraid of transferring the war to

your country in crimea, not to his. that's what he fears the most because it would undermine the legitimacy of the country in russia, lead it to a dead end, amen, the ability to get crimea became a threatening consequence for his regime. oh , one more question about the chinese government is clear , because their attitude to the russian war in ukraine at certain moments is a very unclear and ambiguous word time why do you think this is such a long-term relationship for quite a long time, which is an autocratic alliance against a democratic world, of course it is not about a formal alliance but about a partnership

which is primarily fueled by antagonism towards the united states of america and he is also yes i amway how moderate was china's support for russia, everyone does not support the war supported putin and russia at the un general assembly and china was not among them he refrains from military aid he is being carried out very carefully because it wants to avoid sanctions. we need to do more in this direction, but considering the fact that the chinese did not even recognize the annexation of crimea in 2014, it is surprising how little china has done for russia

i give credit to your president and your diplomats for the smart diplomacy with china that keeps it on the sidelines. if only china would accept the west and condemn this war, but i think it will happen. however, maintaining chinese neutrality is a very worthy goal that ukrainian diplomats managed to achieve and the last questions for today i want to thank all americans and all european allies for the support we receive from you , thanks to this help our brave soldiers are fighting on the front lines and reclaiming our territories bam but we often hear calls from the west about the need to sit down at the negotiating table with the russians, and what does this mean? the west is getting tired of

the war in ukraine, we need to find out what is included in the concept of the protection of europe, they support you much more than others here in the usa , president biden is very supportive of your military efforts, and they are not telling president zelenskiy to negotiate with the russians . forget that next year we have presidential elections of the president who will run against president biden will be actively criticized now there are enough