[000:00:00;00] the forge, which still remains occupied, is possible. that is why the girl does not get in touch, so i am asking everyone who sees me to look carefully at nadia's photo, remember this face, if anyone has suddenly seen the girl or knows where she might be, do not delay and call us on the hotline of the magnolia child tracing service at the short number 116,000,000 calls from any ukrainian mobile operator are free , or write to the chatbot of the child tracing service in telegram and i will ask for a few minutes of your i would like to remind you that we are continuing the search for sixteen-year-old arina yatsyuk, whose fate has not been known for a year and a half. the photo of the missing girl was given to us by her great-aunt , who actually lost contact with her niece and told me the terrible story of her disappearance. arina herself is from kyiv. when the war started, she

was with her father, mother and younger sister in severynivka, this is the buchan district of kyiv region, and in the first days of the war it was more or less calm there, so the family decided to stay in the village and not return to the capital where rockets had already arrived and in early march, when the buchan district was already full of occupiers in severynivka, and not only did enemy artillery begin to fly, of course people were hiding in basements, but it is hardly possible to say that it was safe there, so i can imagine with horror the feelings of arina, her nine seven-year-old sister, the main thing was the parents, who perfectly understood that it was impossible to stay, but it was also very dangerous to run away, look at severynivka, in order to leave for the south, no matter how hard it was, you had to jump out onto the zhytomyr highway and only then

turn to motyzhyn or kopyliv. at that time , the road was already full of enemy vehicles, the situation was deadlocked, and the family still dared to flee to severynivtsi, er, to uman and along the zhytomyr highway near the village of motyzhinka polov . all this was told to me by the cousin of arina's father. that is, she is looking for her niece, because it turns out that the girl 's parents were killed, their car was shot by the occupiers, the family was stabbed, and the elder arina was wounded in the leg somewhere, taken somewhere, taken away , nobody knows where, it's scary to even imagine everything these are similar children, they didn't even have time to realize that their parents were dead, because the orcs immediately ran up to the shot car and took out the girls, the sisters, put the younger nine-year-old girl in different cars, the occupiers later gave them to a foreign family in the nearest village and now she is safe, but the elder arina has a wounded leg they were taken to an unknown destination , imagine all this was told to adults by a nine-year-old girl. she

said that they were wounded, that their mother and father were somehow unconscious, and the orcs told them that they would be taken to the hospital. of course, no one i didn't take my sister anywhere. well, when they arrived and took them away, they simply put one in one car, the other put them in another. the fate of 16-year-old arina yatsyuk still remains unknown, so i really ask everyone to look carefully at arina's photo , remember her face and those big dark eyes if anyone has seen the girl if anyone knows where she may be now don't delay any information is important who owns her call us magnolia child tracing service on the short number 116 000 from any mobile phone calls are free or write to the chatbot of the child tracing service in telegram, we have created a resource thanks to which you can report any crime against

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friday at 9:15 p.m. for espresso hello, this is freedom in the morning, the informational project of radio svoboda , top guests, every day, this is the shipping district of kherson. war in ukraine is the main topic for ukrainians victories and losses analysis and forecasts politics and geopolitics serhiy rudenko and the guests of his program will talk about all this people who have information and shape public opinion people who defend ukraine and create the future right now the main and interesting thing in the program is the verdict by serhiy rudenko from monday

to friday at 8:00 p.m. repeat at 12:10 p.m. welcome to this exclusive interview on espresso. my name is yuri fizer and my guest today is the ambassador plenipotentiary and extraordinary of the united states of the united states of america in russia in 2011-2014, as well as the director of the freeman institute for international studies at standford university, michael mcfall, we will talk to him about a lot of things, but mostly, to the great regret of russia, about the war that russia started last year and has already been leading for more than a year and a half about our victory . we are standing. congratulations, maxim and thank you for joining. thank you for the invitation.

victory is not only about this, well, uh, just the word, everything, my little pony , in 2001, you wrote an interesting book that i bought and read , the book is called the unfinished revolution in russia, political changes from gorbachev to putin , changes took place but why there was no revolution is difficult a big question that is difficult to answer when i wrote this book in 2001 , it was after ten or even 15 years, if you count the gorbachev period of political transformations in the soviet union and then russia

, something was achieved then, or so we thought thought first of all the soviet empire collapsed and 15 countries including ukraine and the russian federation gained their independence and compared to other empire collapses it was relatively peaceful at least until last year secondly they made the transition from a predominantly command-administrative economy to a market but in this book i wrote that the transition from dictatorship to democracy took place, but it was ambiguous and it is a bit disturbing that in this book, where i consider various elements, i said that democracy in russia was not consolidated and it is tragic that now, two decades later, we see that putin took advantage of these weak democratic institutions, he destroyed them today, i witnessed the return of the russian dictatorship. i think that this was known in advance, or that it would happen if, for example

, boris kuntsov became the next president of russia , because there were plans to anoint him as boris yetsin's successor, the tradition could have gone the other way , but in retrospect there is no doubt that these institutions were too weak, too fragile in 2000, when putin came to power, this allowed him george to actually destroy okay calm down you know him quite well is the putin of 2000 different from the putin of today that's a great question my answer is yes and no a-a in 2000 he was anti-democratic but he wasn't like that from the beginning his first article about putin i wrote in 2000 warning the world about his anti-democratic actions he has always been

an imperialist he paid for the collapse of the soviet union he is from the kgb and spent his whole life defending the soviet empire but 20 years ago he was much more pro pro-market and pro-western on market reforms he lowered the individual income tax and moved russia to a flat tax of 13% he lowered corporate taxes and respected private property today this is no longer the case he restored strict state control over the economy especially after the invasion of your country secondly once he was open to interaction with the west . he even talked about russia

joining nato. expansion of the north atlantic alliance, but 20 years ago he was not afraid of nato, he wanted to join the alliance and even said about ukraine in 2002 that if ukraine wants to join nato, it is their business, not ours, so in these two aspects he has significantly changed his thinking and the last day he became a much more nationalistic patriot who allegedly professes conservative orthodox religious values, i wouldn't call it conservatism, but it's something that didn't exist 25 years ago, he changed. i think one of the main drivers was that he became more authoritarian in order to be afraid of his people and therefore he needed an external

enemy to justify his authoritarianism, that is when he became more anti -western, anti-ukrainian, secondly, he is afraid not of nato expansion but of democratic expansion in 2000 georgia in 2003 most importantly the orange revolution in your country a threat to his authoritarian way of ruling and of course later the revolution of dignity became an even greater threat, but no longer to russian security and here i want to make it clear for 1941 from the time when hitler invaded the soviet there was no military threat to the union from the west against russia, and businessmen in forever in democracy threatened putin's rule inside russia that the russians need

a strong state, the russians do not need western methods of governance because they are different, i remember how in 2011 i was at a meeting with him but vice president biden at the time and he talked for a long time about the fact that russia is not part of europe, is not part of the defense, he says that ukrainians are not a separate nation, that you are just russians with an accent. it was a historical coincidence that ukraine became an independent state, this is another of his very strange arguments that if ukrainians practice democracy, the slavic peoples can do it, that is what threatens the rule of vladimir putin. i think that this has become his obsession with your country in the first place, and

also with my country, an enemy from the outside for to legitimize his dictatorship at home and he found this enemy, unfortunately uafeng, you are often called the architect of president obama's reset policy regarding russia , this was 10-15 years ago, did you really believe that relations with the kremlin at that time could be changed i think there is a lot of misunderstanding of what we were trying to do then in 2009 we sat in the white house and determined our national security interests and the highest priority one of such priorities was the need to cooperate with the kremlin

then president medvedev in 2009 was radically different from that crazy medvedev that he has become today, it is very important to understand that he was completely different . short range ended and president obama decided that the u.s. missile defense system meets the national interests of the united states and that without the russians it is impossible to negotiate arms control, so he said that we need to enter into negotiations with them and the plane signed a new contract on the sno-3 dsn o in 2010, after reducing nuclear weapons in the world by 30%, he decided that we should stop iran from maintaining nuclear weapons, and for this he wanted to introduce multilateral sanctions against

iran, you can discuss what it was the right decision but obama wanted to impose a multilateral sanction for this russia had to vote with us which they did by the way at the meeting of the un security council in the 10th year we decided to lead our troops to afghanistan in an effort to defeat terrorism there we were also going to fight terrorism outside the borders of afghanistan, including in pakistan, but at that time 95% of our supplies went through pakistan. so president obama had the idea that we need to diversify our supply routes to afghanistan. and this meant going through russia through the so-called northern distribution network we had to negotiate with the russians and by the way we violated the sovereignty of pakistan in 2011 and killed bin laden himself we could

only do this through diversification i think many people misunderstand our the desire to have good relations with russia, although maybe others believed. i don't even believe that the allies believed in this, as for me. we should not choose mood music or a positive attitude towards the country as our goal. the goal should be specific tasks that promote national interests, in the case of my country, the interests of the united states of america, so for a while we did that. this is how it ended, of course, for two reasons: firstly, putin returned and he was not interested in cooperating with us, and secondly, he fought off mass demonstrations against putin's regime in 2011 and 2012, and putin accused us and me personally of these demonstrations and, as a result, cooperation on other issues such as iran or north korea or

even syria, which was fixed in 2012-13 it turned out to be impossible with putin, who was in the kremlin, who is here to beat the beams of russia, it is not necessary, because you know them very well , since you lived in moscow for 4 years, why, according to some estimates, 85-90% of russians support putin, is it because they are afraid of him, or maybe they are enchanted his imperialist ideas or maybe they just don't care why why is it hard to answer your question because it's hard to understand what people in authoritarian countries really think it's important to remember that you can't conduct

a real poll in a country like russia or in any dictatorship because people are afraid to say what they really believe they have no incentive to say what is on their mind and secondly i got the impression that putin his horrible barbaric invasion of your country has a lot of support honestly saying, i am not surprised, but deeply disappointed, this is not just putin 's war in ukraine - it is the russians' war in ukraine. we must admit that this is not a one-man war , that putin does not control everything in it, putin does not kidnap your children, he does not rape your children daughters and mothers are done by individual russians. i think it is very important to understand that it is the russians who are killing these crimes against humanity, and not only vladimir putin. regarding your other

question, it is definitely true that propaganda and repression work badly, so there were some brave ones. here are the ones who protested on from the beginning, now some of them are serving 25-year prison terms, for example, volodya kamurza , whom i know well, ilya yashin, they criticized the war and are now in prison, and this scares other russians from protesting the idea then when i live in russia in the 90s, i would never have thought that they are capable of reviving stalinism, this is the result of 20 years of propaganda by putin, it is not deeply disappointing, but there is another segment of russian society that simply lowered its head, they do not support the war, but

not against them, they don't just try to stay away and these people instantly change their minds if they change the condition. if putin says to end the war, it 's interesting where rushing garika sparov said in an interview with a ukrainian channel that russians are unfortunately getting used to war used to the war and y they are used to supporting her and putin present putting of course we will win in a while putin will lose but those russians who are used to war will remain do you think this could become a problem for both ukraine and

the western allies i think this is a big problem and that's why i think that the western world the democratic world should do much more to make them pay the price for supporting this war i work with andriy yermak from the office of the president on the international sanctions task force sentence that the western democratic world should increase sanctions so that people feel the war more directly, in particular, it is about the fact that too many components from the west are involved in the production of weapons in russia and this should stop. too many russians who have not been sanctioned work for a company and a political party that support the war, so the sanctions need to be expanded too comfortably for the russians traveling to supposedly hostile

countries is the world to stop 360 billion dollars that were frozen in the russian central bank must be transferred for the reconstruction of ukraine so that the russians feel for themselves the consequences of the war that they support so in my opinion this is the first step then in the long term the defeat of putin 's army must happen in your country it is necessary for the people to finally reject their imperial ambitions sometimes in 1991 they failed to do this there is a big difference between germany and 44- and russia in 1991, then boris yeltsin tried to put the communist party on trial

, but there was not enough support. so they never had remorse, they never had an awareness of the evil that the soviet imperialism unfortunately, until putin loses this war inside russia , this process will not begin. what is putin's biggest fear now? what could be the weakness of his rule, and again, a great question to which i unfortunately do not have a great answer. but i think there are several important things that i i would like to say about putin and his brevity that putin is such a match that cannot be cornered , he would need space, whoever says that he needs ukrainian land to end the war

, i do not agree with that, then not so much desperate as they think of him several examples come to mind when he was pressured but instead of escalating he retreated for a few years putin to stop flying his planes to syria through turkish territory eventually he got fed up shot down one of those planes putin told you a lot but as a result, he never did anything and he only saw that brics took place in south africa. the fact that putin sent lavrov there and he himself spoke online shows that he is afraid of the un international criminal court we do not see a comrade who defies the west, we see a coward who is afraid of the west, it should come to us that we should not be afraid of putin and

that we can boldly challenge him and eventually drive him out so what is the answer to your question? i think that he is most afraid of losing crimea, he is afraid of transfer war in the crimea to our country. this is what he fears the most, because it would undermine the legitimacy of his war in russia, lead him to a dead end, of course, his inability to get crimea became a threatening consequence for his regime conversation, one more question about the chinese government, because their attitude to the russian war in ukraine at certain moments is very unclear and

ambiguous of time what do you think is the long-term relationship during the pre-trial period ? what is the autocratic alliance against the democratic world? which is primarily fueled by antagonism towards the united states of america , china's support for russia was moderate, all xinbin do not support the war supported putin and russia in general of the un assembly and china was not among them, he abstains from military aid. he behaves very cautiously because he wants to avoid sanctions

. we need to do more in this direction, but considering the fact that the chinese did not recognize the annexation of crimea even in 2014 , how little china has done for russia causes surprise i give credit to your president and your diplomats for smart diplomacy with china that keeps it on the sidelines if china gets the west and condemns this war but i think it will happen but maintaining chinese neutrality is a very worthy goal that succeeded in reaching the ukrainian diplomacy questions, i want to thank all americans and all european allies with the help of the support we receive from you thanks to this help and support our brave soldiers are fighting on the front lines and recapturing our