[000:00:00;00] of our army. thank you, sir, to find the optimal steps so that it really benefits the state and every citizen . thank you, mr. serhiy. serhiy zorezh was with us . thank you for being with us now. ukrainian military and civilian citizens of ukraine who died in the war that

was unleashed by russia freedom of the morning my name is kateryna nekrecha and further in this stream we talk about such topics russia is already conducting the so-called early elections in the occupied territories of ukraine, as they say, due to the security situation , the occupiers took part in pseudo-voting, they allow with ukrainian documents, and they also collect the data of men for future mobilization, they warn the center of national resistance that these so-called elections are dangerous and how the kremlin will use them , we will discuss in ukraine already they are about to appoint a new minister of defense, roste

molyerova. and the ministry of defense must work, and not only on paper, the procurement agency in the field of defense, headed by arsen jumadilov, whose ex-minister reznikov has already appointed, what will the agency do, who is arsen jumadilov and will he be able to make procurements of the ministry of defense transparent, we talk with him on this broadcast about what is happening in ukraine, what is the situation at the front every weekday morning from 9:00, we talk here on the radio channel freedom on the air svoboda ranok subscribe to our channel be sure to like and write in the comments your questions to the speakers of these broadcasts in the occupied melitopol of the zaporizhzhia region , the so-called local elections have begun, which is carried out by the occupying power controlled by russia, mayor ivan fedorov announced this on the telegram channel . according to him, more than 45% of candidates from russia, in particular from the altai region of dagestan, siberia and moscow, were brought to participate in the temporarily occupied city

by the so-called candidates from the united russia party and liberal -democratic party of russia make up half of all candidates . fedorov writes that this so-called voting takes place under coercion, in particular in berdyansky, the russian forces force the chief doctors to be sent to participate in the so-called in the elections, 100% of the medical staff, and in melitopol itself, they have already drawn up a schedule for the voting of collectives of communal enterprises and budget institutions, in addition , according to fedorov, the russian leadership promises to pay 10,000 rubles each to the members of the so-called election commissions who will falsify the results legally-melito the authorities are already compiling lists of people who participate in the organization of the so-called voting and the lists are handed over to the special services of ukraine should explain that this so -called early voting is held earlier, as explained by the representatives of the occupation

authorities. and they do this for security reasons. voting has already been opened for residents of the occupied territories who are currently in the territory of russia. the occupying authorities offer local residents to vote at public transport stops on the streets at home. the main session of this so-called single day of voting by the russian election center is scheduled for 10 in september, people are offered to elect illegal parliaments and municipal councils, which are provided for by the legislation of the russian federation. votes in the four occupied regions of ukraine this is reported by british intelligence, they note that they have already identified 1,000 candidates and among them there is not a single independent who is not a member of a pro-kremlin party, so british intelligence notes that the kremlin is trying to consolidate its influence on the temporarily occupied ukrainian territory before our ivan fedorov, mayor

of melitopol, joins the air. i welcome you to our air . i welcome you. in your opinion, what is the purpose of this action? the occupiers were preparing and how this pseudo-voting is already taking place. i think that the main purpose of this fact, which they call elections, is the filming of a propaganda video . question why do they have to fight for zaporizhzhia, donetsk, luhansk, and kherson regions? and why don't the residents of these regions fight for the territory, because the propaganda is mass spreading about the fact that they are being released because of something, secondly, today everyone sees that residents are leaving en masse from the temporarily occupied territories, this also shows that there is no support from the occupying authorities; thirdly

, we see that even after 1.5 years of occupation support among the local population, who is left, they do not support the occupying power, so today this herd, which is in the reef, they see that it is a fake, and in the propaganda that is spreading about the goals and purpose of ieds, these are all fakes and it is all false and for so that though to somehow support their propaganda, today the enemy is trying to make a movie about elections in the temporarily occupied territories and show their state. look, we were telling the truth. there is indeed support for 95% of people who voted for a united russia. they were waiting for us here and so on, but in fact you are absolutely right when you talk about the fact that there are no elections about the fact that there is no voting about the fact that there is a pure farce and a-ah and and and and and nothing to do with democracy and were discovered if

we talk about that and are these so-called necessary elections for residents of the occupied territories, in particular in mariupol and melitopol, how do people react to this and does the occupier exert such pressure on people to participate in the so-called elections see well , if we do not have a rashiv passport, our access to medicine is limited. you can't leave the temporarily occupied territory if the last three e-e month we see that another wave of e-e passportization has begun and this is also an element of preparation for the elections if they come to your house today with this trash can and ballots armed military men who say that you are forced to vote. if you are not at home, they come again and again. this is of course about pressure and it is of course about the fact that our residents have no desire to participate in this fake. there is no such thing as force at all.

so, today we see just such a trend that our residents are being bullied, our residents are being forced, and it has nothing to do with the fact that they themselves want to take part in this movie called elections, so it's purely coercion and purely bullying - that's what we see today ivan and can people ignore this action not come not participate in this illegal voting i would say that they can try to ignore but none of us understand the consequences so today we see a trend today is the seventh day how they conduct these fake elections or rather fake shootings and today is the seventh day how our people are mocked, and therefore we see the following trend that if they come to one house and there is no one there, they come a second and a third time. and they also force our

people to come and vote, can they ignore it tangentially? yes, but even in my opinion, if there is a choice and a threat to life and health, if on a-a scales a-a we have today on the one hand this is life, then health on the other hand to vote, of course, these lives are the most valuable and one must protect one's life, but is there a difference between the citizens who participate in this so-called voting, for example, as you say, if there is a threat to life and health, then of course it is their choice and the difference between those who who is participating in the organization of these so-called elections in the so-called commissions, he works and receives money for it, here it is prosecuted and punished by ukrainian law, as far as we know , that is, what can you say to these people, and are there such unprofitable situations for your information? they force, for example, other doctors to participate in this in these elections, that is, there are such

distinctions, so to speak, of different categories and different situations. they come to their homes and force them to vote, that's one thing, but if that person takes part in the organization of the election process and in the campaigning of the election process, that is, he is definitely a traitor, he is definitely a collaborator who will bear responsibility for karno, if you are talking about the chief doctor, if we are talking specifically about melitopolsky, then not the doctor who today calls himself the chief doctor, so he has already been convicted in absentia, our terms are just for collaboration, just for treason, so today this person has become the chief doctor, as he calls himself at to the illegitimate occupation authorities, then he is automatically a traitor even before these elections, he is already convicted. so today i clearly divided who

the traitors are, the collaborators. and who is forced simply to vote? i don't know a single person who would be forced to take part in the organization of this fake election process. really , very little went there local population then really there are really very few traitors but they are mostly the enemy brought today agitators participants of the election process observers and so on with the continental erefi because our residents massively refused to help the enemy in the organization of this minced meat. ivan, you said earlier that lists of people who you consider to be collaborators who cooperate with the occupiers are being compiled. and how many names are on this list and have they already been handed over to the ukrainian special services today from approximately the entire temporarily occupied about 3,000 e-e people were found in the zaporizhzhia region who take part in the organization of the election process and in campaigning for it, for some it may seem too

big, but i want to compare it in total, the temporarily occupied territory of the zaporizhzhia region currently has approximately 300,000 inhabitants, so when we say that another 3,000 are participating in the organization of the fake process, then this is 1% or even less , and as for the lists, of course the mystas make these lists, the special services make the lists, of course we we are exchanging all this information in an operational manner in british intelligence they say about 1,000 candidates from the pro-kremlin political force that there are candidates there and directly with the territory of russia from various russian regions and who are these people because, for example, the investigative information journalists there say that these lists also include russian military personnel who directly participated in the russian-ukrainian war since the 14th year, including whether there are local residents among the so-called candidates. look, we analyzed the lists of all non-parties that today four are running for office in the temporarily

occupied melitopol region for some councils there and discovered the following fact: the first, for example, the party that will win exactly according to the fake elections with the largest number of votes is the only russia so they, uh, they have 60 candidates, 48 ​​are not local, those who came from belarus, from altai, from dagestan, and so on, so this is an example of what , this is an example of the fact that traitors are not even trusted to become deputies, not even a traitorous government with advisers trusts, secondly, we see a trend that there are indeed local people on the list, and these are the main ones, fishing danylchenko, all those criminals whom we know very well, extremely well, and today they are such a-a forwarders of the representation of local a in general if we analyze all those who are local, then these are people whom we did not know at all before . we did not know many of them before the full occupation

of our city, and these are the people who will not have any rights and will not defend their interests of our residents and our city or these are people who were under criminal persecution by our ukrainian law enforcement agencies until february 24 , 2022. the lists can be divided into two parts . the first is a small part of the traitors . it's easier to manage and you need it random people who have really lost their minds there, but there are less than one of them, not even dozens. for your information , are the occupiers in melitopol conducting the mobilization of male citizens of ukraine for the russian army, and can this be avoided, and are these lists compiled during these

so-called elections , they can be used for mass mobilization. sudoplatova to the battalion a-a cossack battalion to the militia and so on today, of course, no local people are going, but is there a threat of forced mobilization? in my opinion, they will most likely start forced mobilization. residents who are taken prisoner and sent to the front lines in order to dig trenches . and as for your question about how to save yourself from this, my recommendation is that she remains alone for the last year and a half, it is to leave the temporary occupation, we i am ready to help with this. i thank you for participating. they told me about the situation in melitopol and in the region in general during these so-called russian elections in the territory of occupied ukraine. ivan fedorov , the mayor of melitopol, was a guest of svoboda morning . these pseudo-elections have been going on for almost a week, and in

the temporarily occupied mariupol, the occupied the city was also included in the list, the de-occupation authorities are conducting the so-called early voting, as they explain the situation due to security, petro andryushchenko, adviser to the mayor of mariupol, told on the air of the public that the people of mariupol are not forced to vote, but people do not know who they are voting for because the lists of candidates in these so-called elections are not provided and the vote is cast for the party, according to him , only about 40% of mariupol residents are on the lists for pseudo-elections, the rest are residents of other settlements in occupied donetsk region or in general citizens of russia , the so-called observers are also foreseen, says andryushchenko, but they will arrive either from other cities of the donetsk and luhansk regions or from the territory of russia to mariupol and donetsk from the words andryushchenko, observers from the countries of the european union may also come, although as an adviser, the so-called international observers are wanted

in their countries for men from luhansk region who left the occupied territories for russia and took part in the pseudo-elections to the so-called people's council of the lpr. they are mobilizing for war in ukraine about this is what the head of the luhansk regional military administration, artem lysogor, told on the air of the telethon, the same applies to those men who vote for the occupied territories themselves, says lysogor for according to him, the data of the participants of the so-called voting will become the basis for later issuing summons to these people, how the voting process takes place on the territory of the occupied luhansk region, artemlu sukhora, the head of the luhansk regional military administration , told us about the observers at the so-called elections and whether people can refuse pseudo voting, and we know that since september 2, russia started these elections without elections , and it was preparing for them, trying to passport people as much as possible for that

in order to hold elections, she even responded to 380 polling stations on the territory of russia itself so that the so-called refugees from the temporarily occupied territory and from luhansk region could vote, but we understand that these polling stations were open to large-scale falsification, including during the us at the places of these elections, what you are asking about the observers and commissions that were created were unable to collect them completely. almost all the observers were imported from russia. there were only 20 people, they were from luhansk, and the same in the commissions because people often say that the commissions are people whom they have seen for the first time. well, the situation regarding the elections in general is what the enemy said that they have a million and 300 people who will vote. and yesterday in the evening he said that almost 400,000 people had already voted in three days at the extraterritorial sites. well, let's do the math everyone studied and we clearly know that if you count, well imagine, 150,000 have already voted, so we clearly understand that the turnout will be drawn

, the maximum turnout will be so fantastic, let's say , and in order to show a picture of the fact that here everyone was really waiting for russia about the fact that is taking place in the temporary kitchen territories of the 22nd year, so they really go with these electoral bodies accompanied by policemen accompanied by the military, explaining this, the cec explains that they provide security with security, but all documents and everything else are checked, as i already said, for the time being, it will still be one situation regarding the mobilization of men , elections will now be held with an additional rewrite. who is located where will find and conduct an additional mobilization because that's why the mobilization they announced at the beginning and when they won of all the men who met the russian peace on the front line, they have already run out or they run out sometimes. therefore, we need to replenish with what, and here is a very good reason to clearly collect the addresses of some of them. we did not

have such information about the arrival of some er foreigners observers, there was only information that russians sit as observers, russians sit on some commissions about foreigners. to be honest , as of now, with such information, we had no reason to refuse. well, i don't know which one you can say rejection in general, if you understood, people are hiding somewhere, but if you have already been found, then you will have to vote, and most likely for one and the same party, which we do not name there. yes, but we clearly understand, well, what can we say about which lists of voters who made up and prepared for these elections, if we have more than one fact of receiving information about the fact that passports were issued to people and passported right in front of the polling stations , we also asked the attention of the head of luhansk about the presence of a personal the composition of the russian army and the humanitarian situation in the occupied luhansk region, the official says that people have limited

access to food and medicine, there is little work and the mobilization processes are becoming tougher , we clearly understand the military and you can say this on all tv channels . now these forces are being watched by our military and they are inflicting maximum damage on the large number of troops they gathered during the last week, the enemy tried almost all the time to attack in two directions of our region but it suffered significant losses, now retreated, regrouped and again restored the most powerful, the fact that it can fire artillery aviation, the fact that it concerns the situation with food, we constantly provide this information also about the prices that are there but the information that we receive from the diesels of our populated areas temporarily occupied by large ones, let's say 40 km

away, so we clearly understand that the stores work with interruptions, and the food is very expensive in the markets, including because lard is four times more expensive and it is almost impossible to take it because people almost do not work wage arrears at those enterprises that tried to keep it is unlikely that you will provide for the people, it is unlikely that the people have already been there for 8 months. they receive a salary, that is, a salary can be said to be received by those who went to cooperate with the occupier, that is, when you carry it. well, the people also have to pay for their own savings there survive because the situation, let's say, in terms of medicine and nutrition is not very good, well, it's in the adjacent territories

, further on, where the territories go, the situation with nutrition is a little easier . there on the border of russia. yes, there are others, all our temporarily occupied territories, large settlements that are in the strip there up to 50-60 km, they did not open and tried as much as possible to take the children out and transfer them there to luhansk in the summer transfer somewhere else in order to devastate these areas of ours, it is clear that if they are with people with children, people will ask questions there about the restoration that they are talking about. and the restoration of which there are no sides . the ministry of defense has announced mobilization in russia and we want to mobilize 200,000 people, and i to you i will say what i already said at the beginning of the interview, but now again after the elections there will be such a collection of relevant information that some of our traitors who fled to russia and are there, including those who are

temporarily occupying our territories, for the time being we must clearly understand that what i have already said is that the people who worked in factories, hospitals, mines, they were mobilized in the first place and they are actually those who went to combat units there they are running out and uh, russia needs to recruit someone, all the more so because this territory protects this one. they are making an update on this that you are defending yourself, you have to go and defend yourself. that is why men are already mobilizing, as they say , where they are caught, both at checkpoints and at services provided by social and by statization and registration of some property there during re-registration therefore, now almost everywhere they are mobilizing men, those who are still friends, i will note that ukraine does not recognize the so-called elections in the occupied territories, neither now nor those elections that have been held since 2014, the verkhovna rada also called on the international community to do the same and condemn the holding of the so-called vote in the occupied ukrainian territories, the holding of illegal elections in

the occupied parts of ukraine has already been condemned in the european union with the start of the so-called vote , eu speaker peter stanu called such actions of russia a massive violation of international law and the sovereignty of ukraine crimea kherson zaporizhia donetsk luhansk this is all ukraine those involved will be brought to justice wrote in his twitter account further we will talk with the next guest pavlo romanyuk adviser on legal issues of the civil network support joined our broadcast greetings peacock greetings as from from the point of view of ukrainian legislation and international law , these so-called elections in the occupied territories are evaluated from the point of view of international law and national legislation, these elections are well, there are are worthless and their results have no legal consequences, this has been repeatedly emphasized at the international level, because a number of resolutions of the un general

assembly, including the condemnation of russia's aggression against ukraine, which also recognized the territorial integrity of ukraine within the limits of the generally recognized borders of the state not 91 years ago for the world for for the civilized world for ukraine a-a this does not change anything in essence we continue our line of non -recognition of aggression and as a result of the aggression of the occupation ukrainian territories and what are these elections for if they are not recognized there by ukraine as international law to the occupiers in order to somehow show visualize the support of the local population in order to conduct a population census? uh, creating the illusion of democracy uh, both on the external but even more so on the internal information space

, the main goal of the russians is to legitimize the occupation in this way and at any cost to integrate the uh local population into their own the political field well, it is not only political in general to integrate these territories in russia as much as possible, and it is so important for the kremlin , you see that even despite the fact that there are active hostilities and they are all the same who will hold these pseudo- elections at any cost even during the martial law that they declared. by the way, in the captured territories, but i want to note at that moment that by organizing and holding illegal elections during active hostilities, it is already quite obvious that russia is deliberately endangering life and health civilian

the population of the occupied territory, such actions can be regarded as a violation of the vymozhnev convention on the protection of the civilian population and as having the characteristics of war crimes, therefore we document and sooner or later bring all guilty persons to justice both at the international level and at the national level pavlo if we talk about those who are brought to justice how ukrainian legislation interprets the participation of ukrainian citizens in these so-called elections in the occupied territories of those who come and vote and those who participate in some way in the organization of these so-called his so-called voting the criminal code really has a number of e-e articles a number of norms that provide for responsibility for encroachment on territorial integrity and for treason and but in 2022, in the month of march , a fog appeared, a norm of the so-called, which is called collaborative activity article 111, which is precisely what it provides for, it already

provides more specifically punishment for participation in the organization and holding of illegal elections , illegal referenda in the occupied territories, in the occupied territories, by the way i would also like to add that when we talk about the 22nd year when russia used the pseudo-referendum as a tool of illegal annexation , the russians already have the first convictions for such measures and those citizens of ukraine who helped them in this already have the first convictions for illegal elections in the occupied territories, in particular there in kherson, that's why this is another evidence that after the release at least a--all persons er-e all actions will be investigated and whoever is guilty will be brought to justice, we hope that what will be brought to

justice er-e is the only thing before the law enforcement system faces serious challenges related to the collection of the evidence base , we have to admit that in the occupied territories we mean access to which it is impossible to get before their release , but in any case, the investigative bodies must look for ways to which will allow us to prove a coercive guarantee. well, you see the legal laws. the authorities of these occupied cities there, in particular . we just spoke with ivan fedor, uh, the mayor of melitopol, he talks about coercion, and here the question is, how can citizens of ukraine in the occupied territories avoid voting in the so-called elections and oh, is it necessary to do it in general, risking your safety, again, these are two such important aspects, it must be emphasized that one story is to come and, so to speak , take part in it, so to speak , voting is another matter somehow how to get involved well, if you are a director or a manager of some kind of public company and you are told to organize your