[000:00:00;00] tomorrow until 6:10 p.m. take care and listen to serhii rudenko's program about those literally in a moment good evening we are from ukraine , glory to ukraine, this is a verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health today in the program dozens of injured people were hit by rockets in the market and victims, the consequences of the russian terrorist attack on kostiantynivka, what antony blinken brought with him, the results of the visit of the us secretary of state to kyiv and key decisions for ukraine, the new minister of defense, what is known about rustem umerov and what

expect presidential elections from him during the war, what does zelensky's statement mean that he will not leave the country if there are presidential elections in 2024 ? we will talk about this and other things for the next hour with three of our guests. sbu colonels roman kostenko, political scientist volodymyr tsibulko and army general mykola malomuzh today in broad daylight the russians attacked kostyantynivka in donetsk region, 17 unfortunately died and 34 were injured, all

civilian types of weapons were fired at the russians took kostiantynivka first - this is a missile of the s-300 complex, let's look at the consequences of another act of terrorism by the russian occupiers, the woman wanted, let's go, let's go, so far there are many dead people, many injured on the spot , sms and the police are working, and volodymyr zelenskyi commented on the attack on kostiantynivka, let's listen to the president, we

understand what they are doing exactly what happened before, when certain positive offensive steps of the ukrainian defense forces take place in that direction, the russians always hit civilians and civilian objects everywhere they get a rocket in one way or another, because the artillery knows this direction very well, we understand that they killed on purpose . unfortunately, today's events in kostyantynivka are so tragic. we express our condolences to the relatives and friends who died as a result of another terrorist attack by the russian invaders. youtube i invite you to take part in our survey today we ask you about the new minister of defense of ukraine, how do you assess

the appointment of rostem umarov as minister of defense in ukraine, there are several answer options. choose the answer that suits you. or please write your answer option in the comments . well, let's talk about personnel rotations at the ministry of defense with roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine , secretary of the parliamentary committee on national security, defense and intelligence, and colonel of the security service ukraine, mr. colonel, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air. i wish you health. so, ukraine got a new minister of defense, he has nothing to do with military affairs and became the youngest minister of defense of ukraine in the history of the country. he always avoided publicity. and they say, as the bbc sources say, he often solved tasks of the most delicate nature. this also means the acquisition

of weapons for ukraine, as well as the negotiations for the release of our prisoners. conversation 41 years old, the new minister of defense of ukraine, an ethnic crimean tatar , was born in the town of bulungur, samarkand region, where his family was forcibly deported from crimean alushta in 1944 in the 90s family returned from uzbekistan to crimea , married, raising three children . he was a financier by education. he started his career in a telecommunications company . he worked in the investment business. -mu died received a deputy's mandate on the party's list, a vote in the parliament initiated

the law on the abolition of the free economic zone crimea, according to which ukraine will not supply drinking water to the peninsula until its complete de-occupation in 2020, was included in the group for the development of the state strategy for the de-occupation of crimea and sevastopol created by the nsdc, and also the song of the inter-factional association crimean platform was chosen . member of the delegation of ukraine to participate in negotiations with russia on the preparation and agreement of the draft agreement on security guarantees of ukraine, he is an important communicator of kyiv with the government of turkey and the royal family of saudi arabia in the matter of the release of crimean political prisoners and the exchange of prisoners of war with russia , he headed the state property fund of ukraine for a year. in the political circles, they say that rustem merov was secretly involved in the supply of western weapons to ukraine. you were elected to the parliament on the back party

list vote list what can you say about rustem umirov and how is he better than oleksiy reznikov since oleksiy reznikov resigned whether he is better or not, only time will tell position, and we definitely do not draw conclusions now, um, how a person will cope with this very difficult in our time and very important position of the minister of defense of ukraine, it sounds like it should be perceived and correctly and interpreted by the minister of defense of the entire state, that is, perceives that it is let's put it this way. the minister of defense of the armed forces of ukraine. no, this is the minister of defense of ukraine, who should lead, who should lead all departments, all state bodies within the framework of which are engaged in defense, starting from civilians and ending with military ones.

of course, we will see, but i know the growing sea as a decent person, as a professional person, let's say before that, until we came to the parliament together, he was a person from business from a successful business, and then already when he came to the parliament, he was directly involved in the rights of people, er, the issue of prisoners of the indigenous peoples already in the 21st year, if i ’m not mistaken, and on the 22nd, he was appointed head of the state property fund of ukraine, and now with the president, we spoke with him yesterday, because he told me that he was offered to head it, and you know historically probably not only you said that he is the youngest defense minister in general in the history of ukraine, but historically speaking today, speaking from the podium, i drew attention to it that it was the crimean tatar who became the defense minister of ukraine before that, i don't remember if at all in the parliaments, it was possible that there were not in the parliaments, but in the government, but the minister of defense - this is the first person and probably

the first of men, if i am not mistaken, because the politics there used to be completely different. and now i consider it also an achievement. hope that rostenko, the historicity of the justification is very big on him , now he understands it first of all before ukraine, we before ourselves . according to you , the mayors should do in order to change not only the person who sat in the main office of the ministry of defense of ukraine, but also to turn this ministry into a modern, efficient

department that can manage processes during wars, of course. he spoke a lot today. i listened to the speech, or rather, already in the presentation. exactly said that what should be if you are to become a measure of the efficiency of the minister died , well, let's say directly that i am saying one of the facts of corruption , so far we have been brought home to varshikov, and let's in addition to the fact that he was accused there and there directly of the fact that there was corruption let's remember that since he did various good things, we remember the beginning of the war . when he first took office , he had grenade launchers that were given to us disposable. of the people, well, including his great work and with his partners, also talking about growth, died when

we say what he should do in the ministry, well, for sure, he should continue to acquire weapons, because no matter what transparent the ministry is, no matter what it is, let's say yes it is not corrupt if we cannot obtain weapons and give them to the fighters at the front , and the weapons are the main ones from our partners, then the fight against corruption may not be necessary anymore, of course, it is necessary to do the first main task of it. for the liberation of our territories and for the protection of our state, this is what the main emphasis should be on next eh what works must work i think he should do a reboot on eh cadres directly and develop a strategy as a military and political because the ministry of e-e should make a strategy of how we fight and tell it to the general staff because we now have the opinion that politicians should be in the party and the military should determine how they will launch a war and the military is performing the task

, i will repeat once again, as it were it didn't sound there now, it's not popular there, but the military is carrying out the tasks that have come to them, the political military-political leadership of the state says, for example, we are liberating, i don't know , there, or we are on the defensive there along the dnipro border , or we are liberating donetsk first along that's why the luhansk military says yes, and they start working, or we, for example, beat russia on its territory, and on our territory , because we don't have enough reserves, we become defensive, and this is the strategy that the military has later i will therefore implement such a strategy, and he should be engaged in this, and of course, while he is there, he should be engaged in, in particular, international affairs and the acquisition of weapons for our state, and do not omit to say what will happen internally, this is the purchase of weapons, the purchase of weapons , the purchase of food, etc. e dressing up the army

it all costs, which are here and they carry very serious corruption risks, we are right to say, therefore, make the ministry as transparent as possible, as far as it is now possible to start all the battery of corruption bodies that have already started to be launched, give them the opportunity to continue to work and work as transparently as possible mr. colonel, do not serve in another department and did you serve in the security service of ukraine, did they not offer you the position of deputy minister of defense, because i understood that those deputies who were under varschikov shevchenko and deinega, they will go to their positions, well, at least today there was such information that these deputies will go together with the executioner, eh , look, i will not say with your permission what they have offered me yet i have not been offered, i will tell you what is at the expense of dainega and others there people, i will tell you more, all the deputy ministers of defense have written positions, but this does not mean that they will leave, it is like this

. hm. let's say it is like a tradition that if a minister leaves , the deputies have to write statements because they are people of the team, and then the new minister has no to fight with them and make a decision for himself, does he leave them? does he dismiss them? i am sure that the deceased will consider each deputy separately and maybe some of the deputies will remain . despite the fact that they wrote a statement . that is why this is such a step. as we say, it often happens in normal ministries when a minister leaves and the deputies write uh and a new minister comes, they write in this way, showing that we are ready to leave, but at the same time i am ready to work . therefore, the choice will be for the deceased. i know that these the ministers who wrote today about the airport or yesterday, they all want to continue working

according to my information. therefore, the decision will be made on condition today, mr. colonels in kyiv and in general in ukraine with a state visit state with an ordinary visit secretary of state of the united states of america anthony blinken he is quite highly appreciated the successes of the ukrainians in the counterattack, let's listen to what blinken said, we see significant progress in the counterattack, and this is very encouraging. we want to make sure that ukraine has everything necessary not only for success in the counterattack, but also a long-term perspective in order to have a strong style and defense capability so that similar aggressions are not repeated in the future. we are also determined to continue working with our partners who are building and restoring a strong economy and a strong democracy. all this is necessary for ukraine not only to survive, but also to prosper in the future and in this ukraine has a strong partner in the form of

the united states. blinkin's visit is quite indicative and symbolic for ukraine. understandably , because another aid package from the united states should be announced today. states of america a total of 1 billion dollars are talking about munitions with depleted uranium that should arrive in ukraine for the abrams tanks. atakamsa missiles will also speed up the transfer of the f-16 to the ukrainians to document when i was yesterday our partners said that our counteroffensive is quite slow and today blinken comes and says that it is quite successful i just don't know

how do they measure it? we got there in three months. who walked 10 km? we understand that it is very difficult because it is a situation. is it successful? let's say yes from a military point of view. no, because we had other problems in view of the fact that we are attacking an army that outnumbers us, then success is possible , so the question is, what do they measure success in particular ? from the political to the diplomatic, we have heard a lot of statements before that, about the fact that the autumn will be difficult, that we will be there.

well, on the military , political, and diplomatic fronts , i have already asked about these depleted uranium munitions, there are already in russia just munitions for the abrams. in the fact that it was the poor muran munitions, the armor-piercing munitions that the united states of america will provide, that caused the biggest howls in the swamps of moscow, because information appeared literally in the evening that on september 12, the russian federation invited a meeting of the un security council on the topic of the supply of foreign weapons. i think that this is precisely related to this batch of weapons for abrams tanks, and we know that ukrainians have already been taught to drive these tanks and these tanks should also appear in ukraine. how do you perceive it?

the fact that russia is constantly promoting that ukraine has new ammunition, they will now speculate and tell the whole world that this is depleted neuranium, it threatens ordinary people in the russian federation , what do you say about this? when were the projectiles of the bmpbliv team, and we understand this, what is a changed lesson, we understand that it is simply uh, it has such an increased hardness that makes it possible to penetrate any armor. therefore, these are ammunition that are standard is used in american equipment there bmp in the same tanks as cores for ammunition which, let's say, quite simply pierce the armor of russian there soviet tanks er-e takes us back wooden on the military diplomatic political fronts and including uses

the un organization to promote its attitudes on ravon they sit and listen to me it's already such a neon league of nations you know who was there during the first world war who also tried to pacify hitler with their uh hitler uh hitler and in this way they tried constantly let's say so, to preserve some kind of peace, as a result we got the biggest war in history there, now about the same thing is happening, so of course we understand we saw this representative of russia in this person who constantly takes the first place who constantly cites some strange facts and any from which you open wikipedia wikipedia, it crumbles and hopes for those who will not check it, in particular for the russian public , that is why we are waiting for tanks we hope that there will be more than 10 of them at the beginning, i hope that there will be more shells and we hope that they will strengthen us on the battlefield. but i wanted

to ask you about the information that appeared about the british challenger 2 tank that burned down near the village of robotina. and this video appeared first on social networks, and then the minister defense of great britain, great britain, grand sheps confirmed the loss of this tank to the sky news channel, and it seems that according to their version, the last changingr2 tank was destroyed or damaged by fire in iraq in 2003, it was not british vehicles in the hostilities since that time, is it some kind of peculiarity of this direction in which ours operate and the dense fire on the robot is high enough and all the same, these tanks, like other tanks, are also hot, these tanks

, tanks really burn, of course, if you look at leopard tanks, er, they are used more in battle, because there are a few dozen of them more than the challengers , in general, there are few foreign tanks in our country so that they do not talk about the tank battle, our tanks are realists, well, really, the information is that there are not many of them from the side for both parties there from we have three to four thousand tanks, but there are foreign abrams , i don’t know, maybe 50-60 at most leopard 2 and 10-12 e challenge there, this is not so much against the background of all the tanks that are on the front line there with a width of 1500 e-e km it’s generally in drops and all of them are of different types, with different equipment, some with night devices, some without, and this is also a question. when we talk about the world coalition , it’s a tank, it’s what they had information about. it is not a big tragedy that

the challenger tank blew up there. i hope that the crew is alive why eh plus tanks eh for foreign eh because there is a much higher survival there this is desirable much higher if we named ours there sorry there i will not name there sometimes there are trials or something else here we survive much more much more space for the crew that can save life there, it is true that our partners make the equipment and think a lot about those tankers, about those people who will lead the soviet union in this equipment, everything was on a massive scale and few people thought about the soldiers and the people and now there is such a result. thank you mr. colonel it was a novel kostenko colonel of the security service of ukraine people's deputy of ukraine friends we work live on the espresso tv channel as well as on our platforms on youtube and on facebook for those who are currently watching us on youtube we offer you

a survey how do you assess the appointment of umerla to the minister of defense ukraine positively , negatively, neutrally, let's look at the actions and your option . please write in the comments. well, then we are in touch with volodymyr tsibulko, political scientist , people's deputy of ukraine of the fourth convocation mr. volodymyr, i congratulate you and thank you for joining our broadcast. congratulations. glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes. can you explain to me how the minister of mayors will differ from the minister of reznikov by the difference in age. this is the only thing to seriously discuss. reznikov retired, and why did he die? i think that the bankers felt that as long as there are different people in their positions

, skeletons will fly out of the closet from behind his back and, well, we remember the tempo of not a week without a scandal when well, mostly last year's stories were drawn out, but this year's stories have already gone down in history, talking about procurements, violations, about corruption cases, that's why the bank thought that it was worth flipping the chessboard and the rules of the game would change , by the way, i even unexpectedly discovered that the majority of deputies wrote to whom and four deputies statements on the compilation of powers, and at the same time, we did not hear any visions about the future of the ministry, that is , the minister did not express any visions, because there is such a practice as back offices on and the main decisions are made in these b-offices, and the minister who came instead of reznikov will go to rammstein instead of reznikov and will

support international communication, mr. volodymyr, he spoke today in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, there was no broadcast, but the mass media, narrating, he said , he said about that that it is necessary to increase defense spending, and for the security and defense sector , 1.6 trillion hryvnias are needed per year , while ukraine needs more than a trillion hryvnias annually, that is, very large expenditures the mayor says that weapons should be for defense among the more important strategic tasks, we should increase the defense capabilities of the ukrainian manufacturer, everything that can be produced in ukraine should be produced in ukraine, they want to transfer the vlk to a single register of conscripts , any corruption risks and digitalization are impossible, that is, we digitize everything that can be digitized and, of course, about corruption he said that

there is zero tolerance and zero tolerance for corruption . terrorists, is it possible that only by removing or replacing one person or five persons in the leadership of the ministry of defense , this whole system will automatically reset itself and become new and it will not be so toxic for zelenskyi's team, it would be clear that in the case of different ends the team was simply toxic already for the president's team, what the new minister said is like this . well, more of a figure of speech, but the fact that a military procurement agency will appear in the ministry's orbit and, in my opinion, it should be headed by arsen for business people, this is a bit of a transfer of practices from the previous government, because maybe then i managed

the direction of the procurement of drugs in the deadline, and if this approach, which was used in the procurement agency, will be used in military procurement, i think that it will be essential. economy and economy more precisely, and this will allow us to build clearer relations . i think that we we would like to hear from the new minister, for example , a judgment on the subject of how all those who were involved in the previous uh, well , let's say, uh, unsuccessful purchases will be punished as i'm not talking about corruption, but literally on the way out , there was a story about the purchase of drones by one of the former people's deputies

of one of the companies for the campaign of one of the former rozenbasu and it turned out that these drones are absolutely supposedly of ukrainian production, but they are not viable , they are so many if we do not deal with those who made last year's and this year's unsuccessful purchases, if they are not punished, nothing will change in the relations between business and by the ministry of defense and unfortunately, we have not heard anything about the decofi. of course, the minister cannot say that, but society knows that the main decisions are not made in the ministry, but in another place. today , vladimir, in addition to the appointment of a new minister of defense, anthony visited blinken to ukraine, and against this background , igor kolomoiskyi was supposed to appeal in court against

the decision of the shevchenkiv district court, which sentenced him to two months of detention in a pre-trial detention center or bail