[000:00:00;00] and now we will talk with volodymyr nazarenko, senior lieutenant, deputy commander of the third battalion of svoboda, part of the rapid response brigade of the national guard of ukraine, the border, mr. volodymyr. we congratulate you. good morning, studio . good morning, tell us how you are doing. where are you located ? -e in the eastern direction, in donetsk, in the eastern direction. that is, it is more north , much more north of bakhmut. in groups every day, the enemy inflicts artillery strikes simply well, in fact, a very large amount of ammunition is used in order to take everything around , the entire front line in the eastern direction, yes, in principle, the entire

front line is under intense constant shelling and unfortunately for the enemy, they do not have a shortage of ammunition and unfortunately for the enemy there is an advantage in the number of ammunition, the number of artillery means, there are also old, old systems of the times there after the second world war , such single, more recent systems of ar and how much does the enemy use every day, does it use iviation and armored vehicles, other means? you can't say that something somewhere is somehow changing because, well, i repeat, in fact, it's at full power, at the full possibility that the

defense force is happening like this and trying to recapture our territories, just like the enemy from all over possibilities, since he started the war for a year and a half, the full headquarters of the invasion is still trying to press, press, try to press and bear huge, huge losses, in fact, on a large scale, and in recent months, the front line in the east of donbas has changed very little, and i am small there somewhere every day, advancing, then retreating and so on and the like, but well, they are just like fluctuations , right, i understand, well, not completely, but i would like to focus your attention on the fact that, first of all, in many places, there is an advance of the defense forces, well, in particular, our brothers under the pincers under with cardio speech, we see every day if we talk about the state of the day, this is what is publicly heard, this is what is publicly shown , then every day you can see somewhere some kind of strong blue

zone, this is that there has been progress in the last few days or in the last day, and if you think of it, it is hmm there somewhere 100 m somewhere 500 m somewhere a part of the village somewhere a few streets somewhere some kind of landing that's all well actually it shows that the initiative of the ukrainian army is some kind of i won a battle of modern wars only matters the density of lights not the number not the number there even the same armored vehicles, not the number of manpower , unfortunately , the enemy has a lot of these vanyaks, mobs, criminals for hire. they fire on peaceful cities who came here to kill and are simply those persons of that evil m-m on our land

and well, there cannot be such a huge one-time advance because uh, the enemy , unfortunately, i repeat, has the advantage of firearms and they will simply introduce uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, for that, you just need to, well, to knock out the enemy from some specific point, you need to have an advantage in accuracy, and then the enemy will happen at a specific point, but you have to do it point by point, because again hmm, a specific, specific position , a specific, specific stronghold, there is an agreement, some stronghold, it must be knocked out, cleaned, and , first of all, we must protect the life of every ukrainian soldier, every ukrainian stormtrooper and hero so that our

promotion was as much safer as possible, if i recall i know what happened there a year ago. could you imagine that you will be in approximately the same position in a year , it is difficult to say because in any case every ukrainian, every ukrainian soldier , a volunteer who came to the army at a time of need for the country, he wants to end the war as soon as possible, win the victory and liberate all our territories, and by freeing ukrainian citizens from slavery from this hell , throw away these scoundrels who brought examples to our land and do it as soon as possible and we understand all this very well, of course, we are in their imaginations, hmm, tomorrow should be the end of the nation, well, if not tomorrow, then in a week , if not in a week, then definitely, definitely, because of copper, and for this, the defense force is made

. maybe, but from the other side, i understand that there is still a lot of work to be done, and by work i mean it is necessary that the victory will not come even when all the territories are within those limits or not within those limits or some big promotion, but the victory will be when the qualifiers are classified and broken hmm bloodied or the demoralized army of the occupier, when it will not be able to simply oppose the unequals there, and for this, well, in fact, you need to do a lot of work to grind those vanniks, grind them into equipment, grind those warehouses of theirs with ammunition, that is, much more time you do in fantastically many and there are no such words to properly express the gratitude that every ukrainian should express to those who are not at the front

the question is that very often i hear from people who volunteered from the very beginning that all the best, most motivated people are already at the front, many of them are for well, many are injured with mobilization yes, it is happening , but yesterday they literally told us, they also complained about the fact that they are mobilizing there , they are mobilizing people there 40-50 plus who are not very capable to be good fighters it's hard to run with that bulletproof vest and so on, well less and i and at the same time we see that i don't know , there are a lot of young people on the streets there calmly resting there walking there with cocktails and so on and what about you already and you already two years soon it will be. well, even if you are specifically taken, it will take longer. well, it means that in this full-scale war. in the trenches, you are not

iron men either, and those people who left in the 19th year, uh, by god, left in the 14th they left in the 22nd year, they also end. elephant, this is a big question. you are talking about the fact that we need to fully develop the enemy, but hmm , well, in a word, here, and i don’t want to formulate it . exactly as it sounds, but but this is a big question, that is i don't know what to do with the russians , they can somehow outnumber them in the end demobilize even if they die no one cries for them and how do we, that is, how do we bring this clarity and justice to the issue i i how do we how do we how do we give how do we how do we win if and somehow we all hope that they will do everything people who are already at the front, okay, let them fight, they are good men, uh, very valid question, actually

, this is there , well, i don't have an answer to many, many questions, in principle, as well as in general, i have a good understanding of ukrainian society, but i clearly understand next what what will if this not to do, and what responsibility is there on me, specifically on my brothers, on all the defense forces and in general on our state, it is there that we can lose absolutely everything in three e-e everything , that is, i am already there, i am not talking about the most important things there, it is the state there it's a country, a people, a nation. when can we lose the territory three times, lose our identity , lose our culture, lose everything else ? i'm already silent about that. well, i'm saying that we can simply turn into some new works. we can build a regime that is not there. i know north koreans to tie everything together with barbed wire not to let anyone out not to issue any documents to force them to walk there in formation determining the clothes certain

clothes a certain hairstyle that is, well, i perfectly understand that if we don't do this now if we don't fight now if now then well we have something to lose and nothing but the defeat of this army of the empire of evil. this will not be a victory. therefore, it will be either a preserved conflict, which after three years will return to the village much stronger, or it will be a gradual advance of the enemy once there for three years, once on 5 years ago, only the restoration of the borders, only the release of all citizens , so that nothing would be in danger, just to have the right to live happily, to live happily, to me, my beloved wife, my family, and all my brothers and sisters and all ukrainians and all my neighbors and all who are ukrainians and citizens of ukraine live here to develop, build happiness, because we want to build a future without evil, without corruption, without

what prevents a happy existence in principle, and we can build this country. we started to build it one way or another, and when we found ourselves on the right path, in my opinion, the enemy, which in the 14th and in the 22nd , is simply trying to occupy us by force in order to make us a victim once again, and here , understanding the challenges, what you are asking the question what really yes i well, everyone is tired really, i understand very well there when they gave me some days off, i saw how it is in kyiv there or in other cities, in principle, it is good . there is a happy life, it is nothing, it is some kind of a peaceful life, in principle, we are fighting for ourselves, but i also want many more young people volunteers in the word in the army and believe me

i am sure that it will be so, so what will happen, we need to talk about these problems, which we will now announce on the air, this is also important in order to reach some kind of consciousness that every man will have to fight, uh , everyone will do everything to win, and there hmm and just paying taxes it is not there any participation in the economic front and it is not that a person does everything everything everything is possible military 1.5 years 24/7 they give themselves victory to victory volunteers the same way every day every day the majority of ukraine also does something every day for the victory and hmm, so are we we understand very well, but you know, here on the front line, as an officer of companies, when i see how the orcs are being destroyed

, the occupiers are being destroyed, the russian tanks are being destroyed, when i see them there, there is a certain panic. there is no answer hmm we are moving and the enemy is being destroyed i am very happy about the victories of our brothers in this or that battle there or there to the north or there in the zaporizhzhya direction or under the coal mine or under the pincer or podkordomka or to the north of bakhmut or in in other and other places and every repulsed and these to every destroyed russian tank because despite all this it brings us closer to victory and hmm still they are not infinitely infinite anyway they are not they have no equipment when we see that they are starting to use more and more the weapons of the times after the second world war have been there for literally several years. well, i understand that we are moving on a free path and we just need more endurance, more courage, more zeal and

more cohesion, but when you, volodymyr are you reading, if you can, the news from that part of ukraine where there are no hostilities, but where there are some corruption scandals or some kind of politics going on in the verkhovna rada, let's say a vote on the declaration , which is not completely open. it will be open only in the 24th year, what then what are you like then what mood do you have in your brothers it is difficult for me to follow all the news completely and in principle i perfectly understand as well as the former deputy of the kyiv city council what hmm well there is no time to be particularly interested i am fine i understand that the majority of ukrainian citizens. perhaps after all victory at the front, everyone is worried about what is happening at the front and about the battles for us. everyone has been affected by the war in one way or another, and this is the biggest problem that worries

all ukrainians, so some kind of politicking is now in vogue i think i seriously condemn some political quarrels, some discussions there. hmm, they can't agree on something to share in principle. well, there can't be politics now when the war is going on, because there are only armies, there are only people, there are only eh the ukrainian nation and all as one regardless of political or any flags there in the faction should be as one. believe me, you know that i am a representative there. well, the party of the all-ukrainian freedom association and the battalion and most of the fighters of our battalion are libertarians, but supporters of other ideas and parties and members of other parties also fight with me here, and everyone here is equal in the trenches, that is, i met many and our brothers from other countries there. well, they fight just as well, they conclude the same way. but really, i

would like to e- first of all, pay attention to that question what do you say about corruption? well, first of all, i hope i can't follow there, i can't now, uh, hmm , to be absolutely sure, but i also hope that these corruption scandals that we see in the mass media, from facebook, telegram , other sources, it is individual corruption scandals that are simply covered they should be covered because that one is a traitor and a traitor but i just don't pick up literary words on the air, it's just how can you hate a corrupt person and how his crimes are covered they must be exterminated with iron, so that in principle there is complete rejection of a corrupt person in ukrainian society, hmm, i am sure what it is, how sure it is. by

the way , i am sorry if i interrupt your , our god. because oleksandr yabchanka, a soldier of the armed forces and recovering from an injury, yesterday registered a petition asking president zelensky to veto the law that closes declarations for officials again, so in 12 hours they collected 50,000 signatures, the electronic petition is already on the website of the president of ukraine , this shows how huge the demand is, and also the fact that even those military personnel who are already paying with blood and health to make this country better what volodymyr nazarenko says is not just to win back the territory but to win back the right over the country which is better for a better peace

. in order to president zelenskyi had more arguments to impose this veto, he sometimes really thinks for a long time, you will spend well, they also impose correctly on the nation of volodymyr , thank you very much for at least not for the conversation, i don’t know for the ideas that were shared, they ate for what you have been doing all this time. thank you, volodymyr nazarenko , senior lieutenant the deputy commander of the third district svoboda as part of the rapid response brigade of the national guard of ukraine, the border was with us, we will go on a short break and then we will return and analyze the events at the front, stay with us italy-ukraine on megogo at the legendary sansiro stadium, our national team will impress the italian audience with a bright game, watch the super match of the euro-2024 selection on september 12 at 9:45 p.m. on megogo there are 15% discounts on essenciale forte capsules in

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you can actually see that volodymyr nazarenko and i, with the previous guest in front of him, oleksandr skoryk, a deputy of the kharkiv regional council, had a conversation about what to do, what to do with the war, and volodymyr nazarenko as a person who is at the front saying what should be done of course all in order to finish it. well, oleksandr skoryk, a man who helps the military, in particular, is also involved in politics, follows what is happening, in particular, in the kharkiv region, he says that because of the fact that many men have gone to war , no one can work anymore. because people go to war but do not return from the war and there is such a dilemma because on the one hand we say that we want to win back all the territories and on the other hand we say that we will have to rebuild ukraine later and here the question is

whether anyone will have ukraine when we all these territories god willing, we will win back, will there be someone to rebuild this territory, or will there be someone to live in those territories in the end, see. this is a very difficult question in fact, but i am convinced that of course what will happen, we must understand that after all, no one was attacked. that is, it is not us, our problem fight because i don't know, do you think that all of us are convinced that you and your guests and all the guys who are now on the front lines and want to return to a normal, ordinary life so that passenger planes fly in our sky, many things or other things, but there are still questions not because we want. now we are. the question is that we are fighting for our survival. here is the question now. how is the question now ? the initial question is to resist this struggle because we can lose, as you say. as if there will be no one to rebuild, there will definitely be, but the question is because and what will be rebuilt because it is not even a question of the territory now, it is a question of including the people in these territories, this is the first point, the second point , we must also understand that, unfortunately, no matter what it

is, but if this war ends in a certain let's say i don't know about the frozen conflict or the accession of certain territories or what i'm going through so that it won't happen to novikov and if we now even return to some kind of life and once again start to rebuild something, no one will give you a guarantee that in 8 years it will happen again it won't happen again, that's why in fact, again, it's really hard now, but we're fighting for our survival, because we happened as a state, because we're fighting for our certain sovereignty, i would even say because , again, we didn't come to anyone if we would attack someone. because of this, we suffered some economic hardships. we suffered there because of this, then this would be attributed to our policy, but now we are talking about security , about the fact that the war is going on in our territory and we are protecting, uh, the whole war is for these already

for more than a year and a half, her character has also changed. i think you will agree with me, by the way, i just saw your interview that was broadcast to the fifth channel more than a year ago, it was in the spring of last year, where you say that i am sure that we will release at the end of the summer donetsk luhansk and ot already the second summer has passed and we now understand this point . we understand very well that liberating luhansk donetsk is some kind of agenda not for tomorrow . well, that's what i'm explaining today. look, i can tell you then, for sure, there are several factors . the first main thing is to be able to admit your mistakes. i was absolutely wrong. i can tell you why i'm an analyst when we discussed, i had enough data at the time, and it was at the end of the spring, and in fact, then there was also talk about the lend-lease

that we signed at that time, the nature of the war , then there was no talk of mobilization somewhere, i don't, i don't think so that he will still decide to take this step and many other things , in fact, because what we saw, i really believed that this is not what i said there to reassure , i really believe that we will be able to break their corresponding and about all the support that is now the west will provide what he promised then it's just possible at that time due to lack of experience. i didn't know that it could stretch to what they promise and not what i thought that what they promise that she will be there conditionally, i don't know for next week it will already be with us and taking into account these moments, of course, i made such a mistake and said such words about which i say these mistakes again, it is necessary to admit that i underestimated a certain nature of this war and probably somewhere, including the ability on this side , this is the first moment that it would be worth saying plus really we must understand that the enemy

i got to the point where i still thought that for them it will rain when it approaches, because we even know that they are now the majority of the elites from the so-called your kremlin. they are against this war not because they love ukraine very much, but precisely because they love their villas they love their how are you there on the islands, the form and so on , i still thought that the conditional dollar would surpass their other appetites, i still thought that the moment they would understand that their gas and oil would be cut off and they would be cut off again after all, the same funds will be significant for them, so in fact we see that from this side there is no longer any, i don’t know something there . it seems to me that there is just a sick grandfather sitting there , who is afraid of some conditional, in a certain sense, the same elites who grind her among themselves because they understand that after all, children, this will definitely be eternal, therefore, in

this regard, i can really say for sure that i underestimated and made a mistake by making such assumptions that again, it can end before the end of the doctor, you know, i recently watched the plot of latvian television yes, there is a minute left, then i won't even have time to say uh, i'll just say it then, but well, simple russians are also supported. i saw that in latvia, people who receive the salary of these pensions are large, they still say that ukraine attacked russia with a ukrainian, the nazis should kill all russian-speaking people. i i mean, i understand it, they can also in a certain sense be a genre of propaganda with them . you also need to work. again, i am not saying that you need to work, i don't know. somewhere in a certain understanding of the task, but i can say that in fact we just need to continue what we are doing and ours and i am convinced that the victory will definitely be

ours because this is our war, these are our territories , our people. thank you. further in our stage there will be a project from our colleagues from radio svoboda, freedom, morning, we will return at 10:10 with andrii, and now we will observe a moment of silence in memory of the ukrainian military and peaceful citizens of ukraine who died in the war that was