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[000:00:00;00] and of course, there are events for journalists here. the very first event was held today. and with the minister of finance. probably half of the journalists' questions were actually related to the fact that the topic of ukraine will be heard not only during the negotiations of the delegation, during bilateral meetings, but also during open events where journalists will be able to give their answer tetyana voorzko actually from new delhi , the summit of the g20 will be held there, to which i remind you ukraine was not invited, instead there will be a representative of president putin, the minister of foreign affairs serhiy lavrovy, as we heard from our colleague that the issue of ukraine is one of the most important actually. on the agenda of the summit, if you watch the espresso tv channel on youtube, i suggest that you do everything to ensure that quality ukrainian-language content is distributed to as large an audience as possible , in particular, i suggest that you subscribe on the youtube
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channel of radio svoboda, also like our video and comment on what you see there, this is the svoboda project, there is a lot of interesting stuff ahead , in particular, watch telegram channels - this platforms from which millions of ukrainians read information and whether the news there is verified. what kind of threats can these telegram channels that have an impact on readers pose? and what should be understood about telegram channels ? my colleagues will tell you about it. so don’t miss it. also, there were explosions in mariupol, and russian the forces continue to build additional fortifications there, this is connected with the holding of pseudo-elections. is it still the case with the counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine? platforms every day works for you in order to receive verified important information, so once again i urge you to subscribe to our youtube and also to do it on all other platforms, we are represented absolutely
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everywhere. well, telegram telegram channels is a topic to which we now want to return for various studies. one of the most popular sources of information for the consumption of ukrainian users, e.e. without exaggeration, integral channels are read by millions of ukrainians. even now, sitting on this air, i can also watch how active information is updated thanks to the fact that various telegram channels are subscribed. by the way, radio svoboda is also presented in the telegram channel. there we publish exclusively verified information, so i suggest also subscribing to radio svoboda in telegram. well , without a doubt, you also read all the news in telegram channels that's why you know how it happens there, my colleague kateryna kreychenko spoke with experts in the media area and asked them about exactly what telegram channels are, what threats they can carry katya hello and can you believe everything what do the telegrams write about, but the answer is no, you can’t, you have to check everything. you already beat me to mention that the radio , various projects of radio svoboda have their own
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pages in the telegram channels, and this is one of those important points, because the experts we will also talk about it later, he says that it is really important to be subscribed also to reliable sources, to official persons , these e-e pages are confirmed, and also to mass media that are not involved, therefore, along with anonymous telegram channels, you also have this in mind, well, in general, if let the experts speak really draw disappointing conclusions because a lot of telegram channels are anonymous and this creates certain security. well, if we consider this issue in more detail, experts generally say that the telegram channel is today, well , just a new tv with an audience of many millions. there are people who read the news there and is located there, information is exchanged, even the number is official, they also talk about it, but in may there was a survey of places and it says that almost 66% of ukrainians are in the messenger and receive information
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from there, and it is interesting that telegram was ahead of popular on facebook, youtube and even mega popular in ukraine viber, well, it is also worth saying that public figures maintain their personal e-pages, it is simply a must-have for some , from the president of the country to various heads of e- districts of the regions to the military to the commander-in-chief of the generals who inform the population and about the progress wars, including what is happening. well, in addition to the dissemination of important information from the first persons who do it every day and several times a day, there is also misinformation and dissemination, of course with false information, it is not someone running for popularity to spread their page in telegram and publish very quickly on verified news, but someone actually does it deliberately, and there is also a great danger in this. we stand on the threshold of great changes in media consumption and
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media influences. the market in this regard is very dangerous because it is completely opaque , that is, if in the case of media we can at least look at some registers to see what belongs to whom, it is not always there, in many cases it is offshore, in many cases it is some undercover people who are not the ones who really influence this media, but we don’t see anything in telegram, the incredible growth of the audience, the popularity of telegram channels in ukraine began after the start of the full-scale invasion of ukraine, this in particular is recorded by the media detector and there it says that and russia, among other things, began to massively launch telegram channels, for example , of the occupation councils and so on, and in turn to misinform ukrainians in this way . well, it must be said that where is the telegram channel that already existed at the beginning of the small war
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they simply began to gain an audience at a great pace, for example, there is such a channel, and it is the leader of telegram channels in ukraine - this is trk ukraine. it has 2.7 million subscribers, and here are journalists, project investigators, our money is there, the soil is there, and they decided to find out who it belongs to. or all the information that distributed by this telegram channel, is it reliable, are there fakes there, or are there advertisements and hidden advertisements, in particular, and actually made their conclusions that the telegram channel earns hundreds of thousands of dollars, and they also wrote about this in this telegram channel, which is not even on a month and a week on advertisements , including a million people who watch them and read them . well, we found out that very, very many advertisements pass through this telegram channel. well , taking into account the number of audiences and the money for these advertisements, they go to anonymous
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cryptogament has a whole network of strong mantsi scumbags, but even they have a charity fund strukha ukraine and even the funds they collect for this charity fund also for these anonymous crypto havens and where this money continues to settle is unknown because the former actor maksym lavrynenko calls himself the owner, he publicly calls himself the founder of this telegram channel, we found out that this is not so. we have several proofs that in fact the founder is a completely different person, a person who is interested in business, who is interested in certain political changes in kharkiv and in the state, a person who wants to influence therefore, in principle, this telegram channel has influence and can be used to shape opinion in society. it is a very dangerous and interesting moment that in june of this year the trukha telegram channel received
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an honorary certificate for the struggle from kharkiv ova on the information front, although experts have publicly accused this channel of spreading fakes, playing along with russian propaganda, and even publishing videos and photos of the consequences of missile strikes by russian troops , as far as we know , is prohibited. of pavlo durov's country, but eh, about the fact that he may have connections with the russian authorities, eh, or not, the experts also have different opinions, that is, they do not cancel the possibility and experts also emphasize that it is not and is not clear how this network works, where the personal data of e-e users are transferred, how safe it is to use chatbots e-e, etc. this is all closed information, but it is worth saying that in the world and in ukraine, there are in total more than 700 million of telegram users, this is a very popular social network , and here are some tips. and how not to be manipulated, not to be subscribed only to
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anonymous channels, but to be subscribed to at least a few channels of responsible quality media , you need to subscribe to several channels responsible, high-quality non-involved media, preferably quietly, which are not there some ukrainian oligarchic owners with whom you can check in case of anything, i.e. if a scandalous sensational message appears in some other anonymous telegram channel, but this is not there on radio freedom bbc public or ukrainian pradi has not been there for quite a long time, most likely it is about disinformation, instead, if you categorically refuse russian-language channels, you will not lose anything and you will most likely protect yourself from the influence of russian information special operations, can the state prohibit blocking or should it be done? well, medi experts say that it is actually a technical question and why do it
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, because there is really a lot of useful information in telegram channels and it is quick access to information. it is also important. at the same time, if telegram channels and the ukrainian state, on its part, take certain steps , it is possible to have a certain dialogue in order to protect the ukrainian population from misinformation on important strategic issues, well, there are chances to do this the ukrainian legislation will change a little and there they have to adapt it to the european ministry of digital transformation can approve the act on digital services and if this happens, telegram will also be forced to have a contact person in ukraine and communicate with this person, but will this happen at all, when can it be and whether will telegram itself want to communicate with the ukrainian authorities, these questions are quite open. and it must also be said that experts say that some non-public communication of the ukrainian authorities with
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representatives of telegram and this project is possible they exist because this is indicated by such a large number of verified channels of the ukrainian authorities, and there are also certain signs of fakes , so it is actually possible that such communication is taking place, we follow who and which channels we are subscribed to. thank you for such an analysis, katya nekrechena, my colleague told me about which telegram channels should be read and what should we ask ourselves when we subscribe to this or that telegram channel thank you kat meanwhile a group of meps called on ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyi to return to the council the draft law number 95 34 on electronic declaration, a statement and call was posted on his twitter page by the deputy from the european people 's party, mikheil haller, in the text of the appeal , it is said that closing the register of public declarations for another year will not strengthen ukraine's trust and will have a significant and negative the effect
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on its anti-corruption efforts , according to him, the appeal was signed by nine members of the european parliament. i will remind you that on september 5 , the ukrainian parliament voted in the second the reading of the law 9534, which restored electronic declaration for officials of various levels, the register of public declarations should be opened in a year, and the amendment about its immediate opening was not supported by the deputies, this caused waves of indignation among public activists, and the serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine oleksandr ryabchanka even registered a petition on the president's website with a demand to veto the law and return it to the parliament already hours after registration, the petition received the necessary number of votes for consideration of 25,000 and continues to collect signatures now it has more than 80,000 people are joining our broadcast in these seconds. vita dumanska is the leader of the movement. honestly, it was this movement that analyzed the minutes of the law in detail. the law was actually authorized, and who voted on all these details. let's stop during our conversation. good morning to you. good morning
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. thank you for joining. well, let's go. once again, we will briefly recall that the most indignant among anti-corruption journalists , anti-corruption activists , and ukrainian society in general is that the deputies closed access to the declaration for another year, i.e. not made it public and now if we go to this register we won't be able to see who owns what correctly, so they didn't make it public for a year and we don't have a guarantee that it's only about a year ago because we're used to what if the land market has been successfully promoted for 15 years, if , for example, the war does not end next year, they will again put pressure on security conditions and security guarantees, there is a possibility that they will demand an extension of this term, so in fact this is what happened the view is not the restoration of the declaration a three pseudo restorations because the ukrainians demanded the opening of the registry in order to see how the situation with
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the fortunes of officials has changed . she scored more than 80,000 , which is an absolute record in the case of a petition to the president, this indicates that ukrainians say that the parliament crosses red lines . and that is why the president in this case has react to why the statement of the european parliament appears, because in fact the country of ukraine is deceiving its european partners, we are pushing for the restoration of the declaration. at the same time, leaving the register non-public, i am personally very surprised by the statements of the leader of the faction of the servant of the people of arahamia, where he says that i will tick a box and make my declaration public i will explain here to our viewers that the law provides for the possibility that if the declarant wants his declaration to be
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public, he can inform the nazk about it and it will be in public access and here is the servant to the people of arkhamia, you claim that everyone who is in favor of transparency can tick this box and can make it public access in this way, but i will remind you here. look, this is not a matter of goodwill, the parliament is the one who forms the general policy in the field of declaration, and here there should be transparency and publicity a priori and not at will, on the other hand, we timely analyzed how deputies submitted declarations for 21 and 22 years, although due to the war it was not necessary, but deputies had such an opportunity and a little less than 10% submitted declarations. personally, i expect that somewhere plus or minus such a percentage will be those who want to put a checkmark so that journalists and citizens can see
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what the officials said in the declaration. understood there so that the russian forces could not use open data and could not put pressure there, for example, on public figures, officials could not hit their houses, i don’t know, and so on, which now explanation of people's elected officials in general, why they did it and whether among those you researched this topic in detail, there are those people's elected officials who, for example, could be suspected of certain anti-corruption actions , who had questions about their fortunes. let 's start with the second part. and we just analyzed the list of those who did not support the amendment on the opening of the registry, and there is an interesting fact that a significant part of them are the very participants in well-known journalistic investigations of the dubnevich type, dubinsky type , that is, those for whom journalists are precisely
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covered the issue of possible illegal enrichment and their vacations abroad. therefore, it is obvious that it is not profitable for such and such a group of deputies, and accordingly, no one will wait for a voluntary check from them in order to be able to check the information . about the city but did not contain the exact address this is the first moment the second moment during the entire war there were no reports of an attempt by russia to gain access to the registers the public part none information, i.e. if someone declares an apartment of 120 square meters in kyiv, i will try to find it, but also, this information is only owned by the statement and
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there is no confirmation that russia tried to get access to this data, just as the deputies are afraid that the fsb will find their relatives abroad, well, it all looks absurd against the background of those media scandals that we had very little time , only i have a few questions, i will ask briefly if possible, the first question is correct, we understand that there were not enough votes from the servants of the people because my colleagues voted for the bill as a whole, there was maximum support from the people's ears, and in the context of this amendment, which was not supported, if you were the votes of the majority of the servants of the people, then it was supported correctly. 74 servants of the people did not cast their votes. we tried to find out why the servant faction of the people made a free vote, that is, there was no position of the faction, and everyone could act at their own discretion, and from and accordingly, almost half of the factions did not vote for gas station, that is, in my opinion, this is the responsibility of the people's servants, we already have the position of the european parliament, in particular individual deputies who addressed zelenskyi, how much does this negatively affect the perception of ukraine in the fight against corruption by the world, in particular, by western partners, for whom
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the fight against corruption is essentially a fight against corruption, or in the context of european integration or nato integration, or in general, how ukraine is growing and growing itself standards of living here are a very important moment, look at me, it looks like a game that is not bedtime. that is, we almost every time try to deceive our partners in some way, not just to restore the declaration. let's do something we are looking for security, not just to use this chance again, but let's hide everything, that is, there is an unfair game from the state of ukraine, and the deputies in the parliament are responsible for this game, and briefly in conclusion, after consultation with the prime minister of ukraine from here and after i have already appealed to the euro e deputies of euro parliamentarians how do you assess whether this law will be passed by president volodymyr zelenskyi ? it is very good that he takes into
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account the position of european partners. ukrainian citizens now have in fact one tool left that allows them to show their mobilization and position and outline the red lines, that is, to take into account the opinion of at least those 80,000 people who signed the petition. i thank you for such a detailed analysis. we tried to talk briefly about the most important things. the law that caused a resonance in the ukrainian society itself is rather illegal and the amendment that was not adopted by the ukrainian deputies, however , in order to open access to the declaration of the ukrainian officials and we are going to the events of mariupol, there were several loud explosions in the temporarily occupied city . at least this is what the adviser to the mayor of mariupol, petro andryushchenko, said. according to him, after the explosions near the portcity shopping center and in the area of ​​the concrete mini-factory, fires broke out. later , the adviser also reported that the ur district was hit city, according to andryushchenko , one of the groups of the occupying forces was located there, he also stated about the movement of equipment that
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was probably used to transport the dead russian after the explosions, the councilor reported that primorska aircraft were raised in the sky from the direction of akhtar and rostov in the direction of zaporizhzhia, according to andryushchenko, the take-off of four planes was recorded, they were circling over the mariupol district, the adviser to the legitimate mayor believes that in this way the occupying forces are trying to counteract the strikes of ukrainian missiles and drones and petro andryushchenko this minute joins our broadcast. i greet you. good morning, mr. peter. well , what can we say about the explosion in mariupol that happened the day before today, that is it generally known whether this group of russian troops was actually hit, what is the confirmation that there were dead people there, confirmation that they were being transported again yes by transport it is clear that this group is located it is not located directly in a residential building, it is located in the fields from the point of view of where it was built one of the lines of defense of mariupol , so there is confirmation of this fact , go and see, it does not work like that, but we know that
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they were taken out, we know that they were not brought from the city of mariupol, that is, which is located in in mariupol, this means that there were really seriously injured people, because in mariupol, heavy software is not placed in detail, or there were dead people, this is what concerns the day before yesterday evening, there was a shooting near a volunteer woman in the kalniv district of the city of mariupol regarding the fires yesterday and after in the evening of the planes, we understand that it was the work of divination, and all of them were already alive, judging by everything as a result of the fall of debris, maybe it was the debris of a rocket canopy that worked , maybe the debris of what they shot down, it was also on unfortunately, it is not known, but there were definitely fires and taking into account the fact that the russians again expected to strike not completely in mariupol, but rather in novoazovsk and the gendrovo growth
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, it will be given if i recall, the night has passed, the night was now due to the don near the headquarters of the southern district, cottoned there, that is, they expected this evening too and this is precisely the function of preventive countermeasures against the seed darius in the occupied territory and these planes performed, judging by everything, because the aviation in the sky of mariupol and over the mariupol region is not something like that unusual. but we did not record that they circled for several hours and did not strike, so nothing like that happened , and again, this is possible only if the territory of vlup away from the city of mariupol is attacked, because considering the distance , considering the speed, if there was such a thing and it was cotton directly in the middle of the field well, such people cannot cope with it, they need to have a greater
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distance to reach and more time for this. and for this they need to get closer to the front line, which they do not usually do because she is also afraid of the work of our protection systems, but what can the russian troops, in particular, the russian occupation authorities in mariupol fear, because according to your data, in particular, in the area of ​​the settlement of nikolske, they continue to build fortifications , but they are still afraid that the counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine will advance in this direction, or is it possible that there is some other reason there is another reason why these fortifications continue to be built, well, you know, it 's the same thing, uh, one situation - this is an information field that the russian federation is trying to create for us at all levels it is from tall, long-nosed propaganda. let's say that the situation is different - this is how the real military leadership of the russian federation feels about it, so the construction near nikolsk, that is, actually building the new line of defense, indicates once again that the russian leadership assesses
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the high risk of a high probability of that the front line will move more specifically towards mariupol and what is happening on the front hmm once again this confirms again when they started building a defense line on some back when the russian the troops retreated from the productive area, and the same units that were withdrawn from the productive area were moved and redeployed to the territory of the mariupol district near the village of kostya, and at the same time, they began to build a new line of defense . that is relevant to the implementation of decision-making, they assess the probability of this year even approaching the mariupol site of hostilities as highly probable and why nikolske because
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nikolske is the same line that can in the case of our entry into the operational area, it is not just an approach to mariupol and not just an exit to the operational area of ​​mariupol, but you can go past nikolsk and there is further into the nothingness of mangush and cut the same land corridor from the crimea along the mango, so the russians are trying to prevent this as much as possible and to build up their defense line quickly and quite powerfully, they are trying to do it so that it enables or complicates our advance. if we approach mariupol the borders of the donetsk oblast are closer to the south. please tell me briefly, if possible. finally, we will talk with you about the pseudo -elections in occupied mariupol, how they are taking place, how many people are involved, since mariupol citizens go to these elections, and how many in mariupol in particular. maybe there are employees of the budget sector. took part in the preparation and organization of these elections , well, in fact, no one, but strangely enough , no one this year, because even the election commission, all those
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who work on the organization and election commissions on the legal and organization themselves elections - these are people brought mostly from donetsk, makeivka and other cities and towns in the north of the donetsk region, because last year our mariupol residents who were involved in the referendum and did not pay. therefore, this year it did not go through a period of one year . the reason for cooperation with the occupation authorities started today. on the first day of the elections, we will see what will happen there at the polling stations, because according to our information, there was an attack on all state employees and on all communal workers, well, that is, the involvement of administrative resources for the sake of artificial the creation of a queue of this picture that everyone is going to vote before that vote, in fact, people turned on e.e. fortunately, no one forced them , the reason for that is simply a global falsification within russia itself of these elections, because the city of up to 80 thousand people is in
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mariupol today. it was imported more than 280,000 ballots ago well, it doesn't matter to draw 200,000 or 220 or 250,000 ballots ago, on the one hand, the electoral commission was not stressed, well, the people of mariupol this year at least managed to avoid participating in this always revealing the population of mariupol thank you for your inclusion, for the information you shared, let me remind you, petro andryushchenko, adviser to the legitimate mayor of the city of mariupol, which is currently occupied, was in touch with us, we talked about the russian pseudo-elections that are being held there in the occupied territories, and also about the fact that the russian forces, according to petro andryushchenko, they continue to build fortifications around the city, we talked with you today about the telegram channels, about the fact that operative information is being distributed there , it has already been verified, there is already confirmed data from the head of the ministry of internal affairs of ukraine mr. klymenko about the fact that in kryvyi rih there was a hit by russian forces, a policeman was killed and three more people got to
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zavaliv in a serious condition according to preliminary information from the regional military administration. previously, at least nine people were injured, the data may change, in particular, in the telegram channel of radio svoboda, as well as on all other platforms of radio svoboda. follow how the information from kryvyi rih is updated. if you are watching us from kryvyi rih broadcast shield please write in the comments what your situation is, what is known, how powerful the explosion is, this is important. we want to be in constant contact with you, this is the freedom of the morning project, traditionally at this time on espresso , also on youtube radio water on which offers to subscribe. we communicate with you and talk about the most important topics, so follow us for updates, thank you. my name is oleg and i wish you a peaceful weekend as much as possible
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. we will meet with you on mondays . 562 days of full-scale war in russia continues against ukraine in otary news on espresso in angelika's studio for a season in kryvyi rih, an explosion rang out, an enemy rocket flew into the police administration building, previous one law enforcement officer was killed , nine others were injured, three of them were taken out from under the rubble , five wounded were in the hospital, two were in a serious condition . fire covered 200 m² of the garage. the information is still being clarified, said oleksandr vilkul, the head of the city defense council, he urged not to film anything and not to post

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