[000:00:00;00] yesterday, we are from ukraine, glory to ukraine, this is a verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko. i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. today in the program, new terrorist attacks on ukraine are again victims of the russian occupiers in sumy and kryvyi rih. they are afraid to show their wealth . the verkhovna rada returned electronic declaration, but left the registers of declarations closed, finally the results of the counteroffensive were noticed in the west but do we need to focus on someone's assessment of kolomoisky in the pretrial detention center, why is the rest of the oligarch reduced to demonstrative publicity about this and other things

today we will talk for the next hour. our guests are political technologist oleksiy holobutskyi, major of the national guard in reserve oleksiy hetman and retired united states army major john spencer, but before we start our big conversation with our guests, let's look at the consequences of another terrorist act by the russians in sumy and in kryvyi rih unfortunately one person died in kryvyi rih 72 people 73 people

were injured for those who are now watching us live on youtube friends i invite you to participate in to our poll today we ask you about the following do you support the idea of ​​immediately opening electronic declarations of officials yes no your option please write yours in the comments under this video i want to introduce today's our first guest - this is oleksiy holobutsky, a political technologist p oleksiy i welcome you and i am glad to have you to see mr. oleksia on our air today, mr. zelenskyi , addressing the participants of the yalta european strategy forum, spoke about the fact that humanity can remain slaves of putin, who

are capable of killing for their whims let's listen to what the president of ukraine said, support ukraine in any way possible, or instead choose indifference, act together, or instead expect all the necessary actions exclusively from ukraine alone , insist that russia should be responsible for the genocide because it is genocide, or hint that the main thing is to cut costs and the problem of genocidal aggression allegedly disappears if you close your eyes for a moment, all this is unconditionally about morality and all this about the future in which human life and international

relations will either have a moral basis or or not, then all humanity can remain slaves to such and such putins who are able to kill for their whims oleksiy volodymyr zelenskyi continues to convince the world that putin is a murderer and should be responsible for all crimes committed in ukraine according to your year, the position and attitude towards putin in the world has changed, does the whole world or the majority of the world understand that putin is the new hitler , they must understand that, after all, putin is fighting only with ukraine at the moment and to compare with hitler, well, very, that is, of course

damn, we wanted it to be compared to someone, the analogy is direct, but those countries that , first of all, do not have common borders with us , take out borders with russia or are located on any other continents, they may be motivated to consider it exclusively their personal civilization and we do not forget yes that all decent countries, civilized countries, democratic countries, in which the international law of ukraine is respected, which protect human rights, they are all on our side in one way or another, there are different ones, but the majority are on our side, but this is not it not even half of the world, these are the richest countries, it is thank god in this and that for us, but these are not all countries, because there are countries that simply, let's say , they have many problems. they are located on other continents. well, we will say there

, latin america or africa in the chas when it concerns them, when the prices of gasoline and food are rising , they pay attention to the humanitarian aspects , you know, in the history of mankind, even the last 20-30 years. yes, of course, we have huge losses , a huge number of people are dying now but this is not a unique situation for human civilization, even the last er-e decade and demand. that is, we can act to press on the universal aspects of course, that is , the public one, one way or another, to one degree or another, we have supported, except for such couples as nicaragua there, the dprk and others that simply depend entirely on russia

or simply have a different anti-civilization position nikita no india does not deny the territorial integrity of ukraine, but there are nuances and nuances in each country someone wants to make money from this, someone wants to confront, as they consider russia to be the west, not only ukraine, but the west, and to strengthen their positions, like china, someone has a long history that is difficult to overcome the history of mutual relations. as they consider the soviet so everything has passed into the heritage with russia but again, that's all for now while russia can give them something the majority for most countries so how

can they earn something to give to the geopolitical understanding in this, in the economic sense, there are still some uh-uh, but it won't be forever, we see that putin practically doesn't go anywhere anymore, he misses the g20, he can't even touch turkey to go. i'm not talking about the prigs. russia's influence on the world will decrease, it is decreasing, but look, today a publication appeared in the german newspaper bild , where it seems that the correspondence of the secretary general of austria with the head of the russian foreign ministry, lavrov, regarding the easing of sanctions in in exchange for unblocking the grain agreement, the publication claims that they received this correspondence, it was a secret correspondence. so, there are four points in this correspondence. the first point is

the cancellation of eu sanctions against e rosselkhozbank and the connection of this bank to swift. the second point is the insurance of russian grain carriers against ukrainian attacks. the third point is the point of unblocking the accounts of russian fertilizer producers in europe, the fourth point of facilitating access by russian ships with agricultural products and fertilizers to eu ports , simplified procedures for issuing permits, in particular before leaving the russian e-ports, bild journalists turned to one side and the other side, and no one denied its content. that is, despite everything, despite the openness and despite the demonstration of support for ukraine , the organization of the united nations still conducts behind-the-scenes negotiations, secret negotiations with the russian federation and comes out so this grain agreement in which putin involved turkey, the united nations organization , and russia on the one hand, and ukraine

, the united nations organization, and turkey on the other hand, it turns out that we are simply being deceived and they are negotiating you and the russians about something, despite the fact that putin in this situation acts like a pirate, as a person who simply behaves aggressively in the black sea basin . ensuring international security issues, that everything here is quite logical, there are certain interests in certain countries, the same turkey, which of course wants to continue to earn from the grain agreement and not only non-grain hunting for

many other things. well, i also see that there is such an interest in russia, it is not going anywhere, and not only in both turkeys, it is trying to twist its hands, so to speak, or simply set its own conditions, which, again, is absolutely logical from the russian side, that is, there is a certain there is a certain russian pragmatism here. for the first time, we can say that we will not carry out even if they agree and continue to do so. at the same time, there is already an official statement about this that we will continue to consider the legal military goals of the ships in the black sea. russian, and the second is to depend on the west, including how the west will complain about it, but we must understand that the logic of western sanctions is not the same and it is impossible in principle in the global world to simply block

all uh-uh all ways for russia to trade with their food and energy, and besides, in addition to all these points, of course , the restriction that they earned less money , europeans, americans, after all, try not to stress the world markets too much, and that is why there is not a ban on the sale of oil, but there is a certain the price ceiling, so to speak, and with food and with many others, and we know that the market is good in europe, there is a very high fever that prices are rising there, and this means that we must understand that the reverse situation will be like this, these are democratic countries, these are countries that

depend on their voters, if from of economic sanctions, not only the russians, but also the europeans and the americans will begin to suffer very much, of course it can end with what, in principle, we see now on the example of the poorer and not so weaker, so to speak, members of the eu, as well as slovakia, where er, having a chance to defeat the far-right in the elections and who are in favor of, let's say, not for fighting the russians, but much more loyal to russia than the current government of slovakia, so many countries are in europe , and we know the position of some republicans , the american parties, oh in america and the same trump's position. yes, these are all politicians, what is their slogan. of course, we support ukraine , we are against the war in ukraine, but not at our expense

. the conversation and at the summit of the g20 on september 9, this meeting begins in noodle and the indian side, which is the organizer of this, did not invite the ukrainian leader to the speech and ukraine will not be represented there in any way, but as the president of the european council says, honorable michel er, the ukrainian issue will still be one of the central issues at this summit, let's listen to what charles michel said, we are all negotiating and i have no intention of saying anything to complicate these aspirations. we support all the efforts made by india, the chair of the summit, but the position of the eu is absolutely clear and we condemn russian aggression we support the sovereignty and territorial integrity

of ukraine we support the formula for a just peace proposed by president zelenskyi and we will always very actively defend these principles in various formats, including on this j20 meetings, it is difficult to predict whether it will be possible to reach an agreement on the joint declaration. well , the negotiator of india at the g20 summit, abitap kant, also spoke about the joint declaration, let's listen the declaration of the leaders of the summit is almost ready. i would not like to dwell on it because this declaration will be recommended by the leader, then they will approve it, and only after it is accepted will i be able to talk about the real achievements of this declaration, the declaration of the leaders in new delhi, which many i will see from you after the summit, you will be the voice of the global south and developing countries

, mr. oleksiy, there are so many conversations around the big twenty of this summit that will take place and india is talking about the fact that it is about the economy and not about security and not about war russia against ukraine, why do you think india, although the answer here seems to lie on the surface why do they still talk about the war of russia against ukraine it's not about the economy , it's about security, having such and such a war of such a scale, the largest continental war in europe in the last 90 years or in 85 years, what do i want, what do the leaders of the g20 want to say , not hmm, inviting the ukrainian president even online to speak, what do they want to say, that the economy can be separate

from security issues from what is happening in the center of europe, well, this meeting is not taking place in america, this meeting is taking place in a small number of countries, this meeting is taking place in the water, of course, india wants to withdraw its subpoena, and ukraine is absolutely here. efforts, so to speak, to break ahead in economic development with encountering enormous problems along the way, the indian is looking for its place in the world economy despite the fact that the confrontation with china and many others, so to speak, there are issues in india, so use let use the indian ones themselves well, the g20 themselves are in india for the sake of ukraine well, they consider

it inappropriate and they can be understood in principle , that is, again, we can say anything, but they are the host of this summit and i think once again i say that if it is well, that is, the western countries could say we will not come if well but again, everything will happen gradually and slowly, the arguments that the west finds for the country, which, let's say , waver in support of ukraine, are there russia will perceive these arguments differently , so over time, so to speak. bad things i am not talking about such details as the fact that they are paid by hand which cannot be converted anywhere and they are hanging in indian

banks, roughly speaking, that is, this is how the situation looks at the moment, so that they have almost nothing for a fool receives receives record records received record oil inflows, now it is decreasing and will continue to decrease, but they all got their own benefit from this situation, so to speak, and again, india wants to be the indian representative, as he said , third world countries well, the situation between the countries of the third world is completely different than that of this so-called golden billionaire, and they very often consider this war as a showdown.

to understand that we had an adequate attitude and understanding of the processes taking place, including at the g20. well , and secondly, let's take a look at this declaration. india, of course, wants to have good relations with russia, but it also wants to have good relations with the european union with non-aligned states and , moreover, recently these relations, especially with the aligned states , have been growing, so again, let's see , this process is sure to be long enough, depending on how it will develop war, of course. thanks to oleksii. it was oleksii holobutsky, a political technologist. friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us live on youtube, we offer a survey. we ask you how you feel about the immediate opening

electronic declarations of officials, more correctly the question sounds like this do you support the idea of ​​immediately opening electronic declarations of officials yes no your option, please write in the comments under this video well, no please don't forget to like this video in order for it to be voted on youtube trends. further, we are in touch oleksiy hetman, a participant in the russian-ukrainian war , a major in the national guard in the reserve. majora. i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our broadcast . let's call it good evening. let's start with the personnel reshuffle conducted this week by volodymyr zelensky, the resignation of oleksiy reznikov, which was predicted, this happened , rustem came to the helm of the ministry of defense , a person who has experience behind his shoulders

management of the state property fund, he was a people's deputy of ukraine, worked for a private business. well, in general, he is a representative of the crimean tatars , and for the first time, their representatives become the head of such a serious department , which is the ministry of defense of ukraine during the war, the minister of defense - this is much more than the minister of defense. he is a diplomat and a businessman, he is not a person who is responsible for each of us, for each ukrainian, not only for the armed forces of ukraine, but according to your opinion , will this staffing improve the situation in the ministry of defense because you are only talking about the head of this entire structure, this entire infrastructure, it has been in operation for many years, obviously, and it already has its own rules and, uh, there are certain connections in the middle of this ministry of defense, how

can one person change the situation? well, if honestly, not a single person immediately when she first came to this position is fundamentally unable to change something. she can start processes to change certain certain movements to establish more clear systems of control over what is being done in the ministry until the ministry is not responsible for the large scale it is not for the organization of hostilities there for example, is it organized according to the tactics of god's conduct - it is responsible for ensuring the provision of the armed forces with everything necessary for the large scale - it is uh, there should be a group of managers who, each in their own direction, uh- actions are taken so that people who are already directly in certain units should focus only on combat operations or on training as

combat operations, that is, on the war and on the organization of actions if the unit is located outside the combat zone, this is the main task of the minister of the ministry of defense in general. we are used to it. well, many people are not used to it, since the times of the soviet union, when the minister of defense was a person who was considered to be the highest highest position in the armed forces, which is the maximum that a serviceman in the armed forces can achieve. this is to become the minister of defense . that is, this is such and such an elevator, social, for the military , this is the maximum, the maximum was, well, it was the highest possible position, at least it was considered so by many people in our countries the countries of our partners decided a long time ago that the minister of defense should be a civilian, this is to emphasize that this position and the ministry of defense itself is nominal and it is precisely the structure that

deals with security and nothing else . well, if the new minister understands this and we. i think that he understands this. if he is trying to direct his efforts, then i am sure that everything will work out for him, but once again you correctly said that a certain structure has already been established, including unfortunately, if there are corruption flaws, then there are these structures. unfortunately, they are also fixed, so he will have to do a lot and expect that tomorrow or the day after tomorrow or even by the end of the year there will be some significant changes. i think that this should not be expected. this is a rather inertial structure like any large structure and in order to change something, it is not necessary to be better well, it is necessary some time ago, let's wish the new minister success, let's thank him for all the good things. what did

mr. reznikov do in the previous minister, if he has claims, including criminal claims, this should already be dealt with by another service , and the new minister, well, that is, anti-corruption, our service, maybe, maybe the police , maybe even someone else, well, i hope that there is nothing here, nothing in this way is directly different when they were involved and that what happened? well, we saw these scandals that happened there. i want to focus on this again . well, i think there is something for the prosecutor's office to work on, so let's see. let's wish the new minister success. well, in the second day, the people are at work. well you know me. i understand that many people want everything to change from monday . well, unfortunately, it doesn't happen, but if the movement is in the right direction, then we will eventually after a certain time , well, it lasted quite a few months. i think not earlier than after the new year

we will see some changes, or we wish for success, of course, major, mr. umerov has both external enemies and internal enemies, that is, he will have to fight with internal enemies, that is, with corruption, with those schemers who made money and probably continue to make money on weapons the provision of the army with external russia and the propaganda tv channels are simply burning with the appointment of umirov, let's see a small fragment from the propaganda show , what they say about the new minister of defense of ukraine , they will get involved in the affairs of the poor, like me , lestnikov, they will absolutely be the administrator of good administrators , tell me, well, the good administration is here but and according to their views, there was a very tough person who, well, in the near future

, will make a special appearance and say that there will be increased strikes on crimea, that's the hotel you clarified, you said, it means for him that krym is a painful topic . and that’s why i want to clarify, that’s why he is a real crimean who considers himself a crimean. he will be even stronger in crimea. yes . well done, a real patriot. you only forgot to say ukrainian. i understand. i understand. maksimovich. strained. well, we understand. irony, he and he are supporters of striking deep into the territory of russia. he does not hide about this, especially, and this will also happen in the next two weeks. what are they thinking about omerov? was born in uzbekistan, his family was deported in 1944, and he only returned with his family in the early 90s to the crimea, where the same people who

are now persecuting the crimean tatars, or their parents or grandfathers, evicted this family . of course, of course, the majors are now the top topic in all the world media and among all the officials of the world , they comment a lot on the counteroffensive of ukraine. we have heard a lot in the last two months or read in the foreign press from unnamed sources in the pentagon in the state department that they are there think and that's it the secretary of state of the united states of america, anthony blinken, came to ukraine and ticked off all the dots, what anthony blinken thinks about the counteroffensive, let's listen to the current counteroffensive, we have seen real progress over the past few weeks, this is what happened president zelenskyi just returned from the front, so i had the opportunity to hear directly