[000:00:00;00] in several directions, what we will look at is the work on the prokopivki direction - this is a new donetsk novomajorskoe, this is already a new direction is now opening in this volnovakha direction this is of course the actions of the eh in the bakhmut direction where ukrainian forces are constantly advancing every day by a kilometer, but eh- is doing a great deal because they are destroying a lot of russian reserves of russian russian infantry and russian armored vehicles . thank god they gave us cluster munitions , which many europeans say are anti-human weapons, but thank god that we have them yes, because we can hit the squares, we can destroy with one projectile, for example, a platoon stronghold, or with several cannons to bring this agreed stronghold to the point of lack of combat capability, and this is thank you , sorry, sorry, thank you, military expert, director

of the new geopolitician-svysoch network of the army conversion and disarmament research center, p. mykhailo himself, and now we are moving to more diplomatic circumstances valery chaliy ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine to the united states from 15 to 19 years chairman of the board of the ukrainian crisis media center mr. valery good health. thank you for finding time for us . let's start. congratulations, mr. valery. let's start with the results of the visit of the secretary of state of the united states . in principle, the first part is always one and the same date of the signal that the united states supports ukraine and will support the provision of weapons . the package from the previous 46th, in my opinion

, was also announced before the visit. that is, well, very the symbolic things were the visit to the berkovets cemetery and expressions of respect for ukrainian soldiers also at the border e-e such precincts, such a brave one. the journey of the state secretary well, in principle, the signals are clear and there was a part that related to getting to know the actual situation the day before the 20th of the general assembly in order to pass it on to the president biden's position for negotiations, therefore, in principle, internal issues were also raised by valery, as far as we can believe. well , gossip rumors are always close to such visits that america is carrying out official washington is really carrying out some kind of soundings or already directly putting pressure on ukraine with the aim of somehow softening the position of kyiv officially , somehow , it

can put it not at the negotiating table. in the fact that they somehow influence the foreign policy of official washington. well, if you apply pressure from your two definitions, then there is no pressure from the probe, because america has finally figured out that the ukrainian people and civil society society and now, it is the armed forces of ukraine. it determines the situation, not anyone who is in power, that is, without any official decisions . there are some possible compromises, as it seemed . last year, they are impossible without the support of society, so there are always problems, and it is obvious that there is also a political process in america. unfortunately , it can be stated that these political processes are superimposed, well, elections in particular are superimposed on the situation even during the war, so the americans will not pressurize, they will

see how much institutional capacity ukraine and the strength of society allows us to move forward together, ask for more in opposition to russian aggression and russian blackmail, see recently. as far as i understand, kandel wrote something now and wrote something so reassuring, i would even say that trump's victory does not mean the end of some very close relations between washington and kyiv and how much can we believe in this? well, really, if you analyze it for a very long time, you can come to the conclusion that since a republican is a republic , and trump is a military lobby very often if orders have been placed to increase supplies to ukraine, i don’t know about guns and shells and airplanes, then no matter how trump comes to power

, there is no way to reduce this aid because the orders have already been placed. come on, these are contracts with metal foundry enterprises for the production of some kind of guns . to predict who will win in the usa because this is such a matter, she is absolutely ungrateful, we will have to work with whoever wins , well, for example, now the polls give even though in us what, for example, nikki haley has more chances not among the republican candidates, but to defeat the democratic candidate, for example. well, whatever happens change a lot of times. and your conclusion is that the orders, the contracts, which

are already in production, have already been started, and you can’t knock them down like that , you can, in principle, repair them at some of your e-e companies, which you somehow like it is possible to get closer, and so that the military-industrial complex that is currently expanding will stop it. no, and this is not one. needs and it is necessary for the sake of justice to say that some of the contracts that the usa is performing now they are even trying to help us hold somewhere under that contract and direct us, that is, there is also such a thing, that is why we are talking about this , the circumstances may change, but let's be we will live with the realities that exist now and are possible. well, take into account that of course, after the summer of next year, it will be much more difficult

to say the truth about all these issues , but why, in principle, do we discuss all these negotiation processes all the time when we do not see there is absolutely no desire on the part of russia to conduct any real negotiations with ukraine , and the russian leaders are saying that now is not the time for any political process. we see that from russia's point of view, we don't need a victory, a war of attrition, as in my case, well, on the condition of ukraine to sit down at the negotiating table . well, she sat down, and where is russia? well, in fact, it's a slightly more complicated situation, because everyone under peace understands their own, that is, russia now understands it too peace is such a category that changes, first peace it was the complete subordination of ukraine as a government there in general of all orders , well, at least on parts of the territory, except maybe

the western regions of ukraine and control on the territory, that is, peace was like that now peace - these are the southern occupied territories of crimea and the corridor, such peace. well, plus neutrality, as we have seen. putin is already showing the draft agreement on permanent neutrality to the cameras again . what well, by mistake, was handed over to him then by the ukrainian delegation, it should be written there and put something there so that he does not act now this map, that it is already a contract, well, it really was a project, but i think there was a mistake , this argument will be handed to him, we can also call it chaloy’s project, no, it is a project. well, first of all, i want to emphasize with two red lines no valery chalopa, from the information of the ukrainian diplomat oleksandr chala, i can only see the preamble that

the declaration of state sovereignty states the neutrality of ukraine, but that is not true, as you say , it does not correspond to the reality. this shows that it is necessary to approach the proposals of even the most prominent ukrainian figures more critically, that is, i am returning once again to mean peace, they understand it as the capitulation of ukraine and then repeatedly repeated what peace is for them, that is it's also called in russia, and ordinary citizens say well, it's the ukrainians who are interfering there, well, it will be better for you. what are you going to do with this? it will be a once-in-a-lifetime thing. i'll tell you how many people were abroad last year who said what are you doing. what are you doing against russia, a nuclear country? what do you want a nuclear winter, you want to bring trouble

on us, and this was said by former ukrainians or uh well, some of them are some foreigners and now it will be played out nuclear blackmail, i have no doubt you will see in the winter the use of nuclear facilities will wind up ballistic missiles, it will all go again, the bear will crush london to warsaw and brussels. that is, i have no doubt that it will happen, because this is what is left of putin, and now the attention is peace of this kind, that is, stopping the war of the hot phase, now it is very profitable for russia, very profitable, they have all their ways now they are twisting to achieve this pause, they need to slander missiles , they need to complete their election processes there , local elections, what do they call the president, elections, well, in fact , this is the appointment of the holocracy of their mafia leader that is, that is why they want this pause, and then they know that if the pause is 2-3 years, they will renew their goals again. and the ukrainians understand and

it is finally clear to the partners that it is not possible to give this respite to putin, because then it will be much more expensive and more difficult, so i i am sure that it is much more profitable for russia to stop now, to pause in the war . in this regard, they will pressurize, how it will develop further depends on resources, and resources are not only technological weapons, they are important, but also the first resource is the stability of society that is, the willingness of the ukrainian people to continue, let's be frank, the most important thing is to invest human potential in the war for a real result, and the part that understands that you cannot jump over this pit in two jumps . if we give slack now, the war will return very quickly, well, our strategy is such that the external strategy is a little different, they are ready to stretch it

they understand that this confrontation is not going to stop, it is a confrontation not only between russia and ukraine, russia is undermining the rules that exist and the benefit of china is true because russia is not will take advantage, but china will take advantage, and russia will already be a vassal in this block , so now they also understand giving concessions . well, many people in the united states will then need not 2% of the annual amount of funds for armaments. and this is only 2%, half of russia's potential the gdp of the united states has already been destroyed, specify not the gdp but the budget of the military. do you understand what these unique questions are? valery, the last important question. it was not the editors who wrote that there are signs that china is becoming a little more

pro-ukrainian on the one hand and on the other hand we know that chinese so-called bloggers and opera singers were singing today in mariupol, and how would you like to express your point of view that something is really changing in china? is it so wishful thinking? i don't see any changes. there is a big risk that china can provide aid through a shadow scheme through the south, the north, i apologize to korea and china to the balance that they declare, although the balance is still far away, that is , china should still, if it claims any competition for leadership, be more balanced. unfortunately, i cannot state this china, unfortunately, plays a very destructive role now in world processes . why because they essentially give putin a signal that he can continue to kill people in a sovereign country if china were to get tough and forget at least their anti-americanism and understand

that they are such threats more important for the world than his interests, he is very close to his character and played a long game. i think that then everything would stop very quickly, but it is beneficial to china. and why does he not go to the 20th? they form their own group, this is brics plus six. well, there are such wonderful countries as in venezuela - more precisely, ethiopia and ethiopia, iran , but also argentina, that is, all of china has shown that it is going, its choice is a bipolar world on the same field, this is china, well, at the first stage. i believe that now this is a bipolar world. somehow it is emerging more than a multipolar one, and the twenties are unlikely to play their role , which was laid into it at the time, i think that in a couple of years the twenties will not be in the

form in which they are now, well, they will add the african union will have another summit next year, but because of you, i think it will be very problematic to explain to them what kind of organization this is. thank you very much. they were very kind. the highly empowered ambassador of ukraine to the united states was with us for 15-19 years . the chairman of the board of the ukrainian crisis media center was with us now. then middle eastern studies we will explore sorry for the tautology ukraine-england advertisement on megogo in the selection for euro 2024 our national team needs to tame three lions turn on the match on september 9 at 19:00 cheer for the country's main team on megogo pain can be an obstacle with not my knees from knee pain try dolgit cream relieves pain reduces swelling and

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political season exclusive interviews reports from the hottest points of the front freedom life frankly and impartially draw conclusions ourselves we continue our broadcast mykola a our guest now is serhiy danilov, deputy director of the center for middle eastern studies, congratulations mr. serhiy well, let's start with the sensational news that was released today by bilt about the fact that secretary general antonio batielish is negotiating with russia regarding the return to the black sea green initiative. i would like to remind you that among the conditions offered to russia are the possibility of her own agricultural exports, the insurance of her judges, the return of her money, which is currently frozen in the european union, the permission to

want russian ships to enter the ports of germany, and many people think that this is such a throw-in, but i cannot forget the words that the president of turkey said, even if you sold her your joint press conferences with the president of russia, vladimir putin, that ukraine needs to be more lenient to russian conditions if it wants to recover the black sea mill of asia you can otse otse and there is this softness good evening panic p nikolay you see the pain before that i reported that the agreement russia turkey boat will be concluded well almost a month ago on some weekend yes three weeks ago if i'm not mistaken well and where theirs the message is about a tripartite agreement, yes it is about and something about it but again, we do not see any agreement about the fact that 1 million tons of flour boat will buy grain in

russia, turkey will process it into grain and supply it he talked about such an idea yes yes he said about this idea, but we see that there is no agreement, at least for now , and therefore from the source it must be taken into account, but it must be understood that hmm well, before that, you also need to check, obviously, there are some such plans , it is obvious that you will be able to trade air because well, it is not within the competence of the left to decide whether the european union will open its desks or whether the united states and its allies will lift the sanctions in the form of disconnection from the words to one of the russian banks and everything else, everything that is written in that letter is air trade, it does not

belong to the general sector of the un and it is not within his competence, he cannot provide it and cannot guarantee it, energy has the tools, mr. sergey , look, here is this phenomenon, how for me it was a phenomenon. erdoğan will persuade putin to do this, moreover, when he flew to putin, he very clearly hinted that this will be a joint conference from the press conference and you will learn good news. well, something like that. and i thought to myself. well, what is putin? agreed and did not find any arguments for putin to agree, this is some kind of miracle, it should have been inserted, it is just a short-sighted serdogan , although it is very difficult to say that the president of turkey is generally a short-sighted person. he

is very good at calculating. he understands everything very well and very plays well for his country and then the question arises, where does this optimism come from? who made a big mistake? erdoğan comes out . he made a big mistake by hoping that putin can't come to an agreement because he will give this grain corridor, please, no, of course, when did fidan visit ? kiev oil, all schedules were clear and everyone who observes the situation all knew that there would be no recovery . allerdagan just played on the domestic turkish political market. he got great press after this visit as the president who once again was too lazy to drag the country into the war, who stands for the interests of turkey and the entire oppressed world , and the comments are very complimentary and based on these messages that ardagan said

before the epic and before the beginning and at the end of the conference, and that was all he needs to support his party in the regional elections , which will take place shortly, all uh, and that's all they were aimed at, he needs to present himself as uh, a person who is capable, if not now, then in prospects of being mediators for peacekeepers, this is how he sold himself on the european market, on the world market , this is how he sells himself to turkish citizens, and he successfully played this role. but it is obvious that azerbaijan is turkey's closest ally or turkey is azerbaijan's closest ally. how serious is everything that has been happening in the last week

? it smells like a serious war. only by war, but also simply by the annexation of armenia , somehow everything is so tense there, or does it seem to me, sergius, escalation, you are right , columns were advancing there today. armenia lost the second karabakh war and had to go through a corridor, and there are several tables of such a controversial status that, according to certain maps of a certain period in soviet

times, were with azerbaijani enclaves on hmm, the territory of the armenian soviet socialist republic can be some kind of formal pretext, the azerbaijani side says that if you do not recognize the territorial integrity of azerbaijan, what have you been doing for many years? well, yes , 20% of the territory of azerbaijan was seized, then we will not recognize you, sign a peace treaty, do not seek external allies let's agree here and now and establish peace with russia and the wounded part of the armenian system is playing to raise the rates of each of the parties with their own considerations eh pashinyan the prime minister of armenia is in a certain tsutsvage eh now i will try to make a turn to the west where here where is the bluff and what he can really do this is a big question in fact well eh and as a result the situation is escalating now plus

karabakh announced the holding of elections karabakh, which violates the plans of azerbaijan , which planned to establish full control over its entire sovereign territory by the 25th year, the elections, accordingly , will lead to another escalation, and this is a refusal to recognize the reality on the ground yes, you lost the war. okay, you recognize the territorial integrity of your neighbor, which you violated. you occupied 20% of the territory of azerbaijan. yes or no .

well, there is no answer. that the southern framework now plays a slightly bigger role than it did before the russian invasion of ukraine, and now everyone is interested in it as a transit corridor as a transport corridor because russia belarus is turning into a logistical dead end. please tell me, mr. serhiy, and in principle, the visit of the french president is a model of macron. he is going to visit the armenians in azerbaijan. he can somehow change the situation. to what extent is the west able to influence here? i don’t think there can be any arms deliveries. that would change the situation on the ground will not happen if there are any supplies of weapons in addition to the indian ones to the iranian ones, which armenia will now receive, will not change the balance of the power balance it's too proportional now, there was a visit by the mayor of paris, for example, yes

, french parliamentarians came, but in principle the situation will not change, hm. and i would also like to draw attention to the fact that in our country, everything is often associated with turkey, we should not forget that azerbaijan subject, he decides himself, and what i hear from the azerbaijani speakers, they clearly say that this will not happen, you admit, we sign where we mark, we delimit the borders, we add about how we will work with this in the future , we recognize the reality on the ground, we move on, sir serhii, look, well, this is a very acute question , especially for armenians, i apologize. what do you think , is there any danger to the existence of the armenian state