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of the return of crimea military analytics of the ninth presenters journalists experts opinion leaders in real time about the most relevant events through the prism of war in the author's projects on espresso , this is the 23rd separate rifle battalion of the armed forces of ukraine. now we have already been in such a significant performance. we are holding the defense, the battalion is wedged in the defense of the orks in donetsk region and is holding its position right now, the military needs our help, the fighters need drones to conduct reconnaissance and destroy the enemy even on the approach , we take each drone - this is the loss of the enemy and the saved life of our soldier, join the gathering , we will show our fighters that we next to them i congratulate you on the espresso channel our army continues an important and extremely difficult offensive

campaign in the south restrains the enemy in the north the further situation at the level of the front its development depends both on the skill and courage of our soldiers and from the position and readiness of our partners to provide further long-term assistance to ukraine beyond the 23rd year and beyond from their ability to realistically assess threats and determine that only the complete defeat of russia on the battlefield is an extremely important component for better security realities for ukraine as well as well as for europe itself. but is there such unanimity in the usa and nato countries, what solutions do our partners choose in practice, and how will this affect our ability to defend and advance ?

channel espresso with our leading experts results serhii zgurets i am the director of the information consulting company defense express, which, together with kanalamis, strives to highlight the most relevant defense industry and military trends, and now oleksiy ezhik, an expert of the national institute of strategic studies, oleksiy, welcomes you. i am glad to see you . i welcome you to us i am glad that this week there were many such important events, we will approach them slowly, but first i would like you to outline your own vision of what our war with the russian federation is now at the stage from the point of view of the enemy's goals and capabilities, well, according to our goals and capabilities now, well, in principle , it's obvious, er, obvious things are happening , the breakthrough of those fortifications that russia has been building for a very long time, er, six months, at least a-

and much more de facto in august of last year the lines began to be rebuilt when they had already decided that they would try to get certain territories, but now with great difficulty this is all happening a breakthrough is known there at least the first line has been broken the second line is breaking through and there is a discussion about how strong the third line is in the east near bakhmut, the slow advance and containment of the grouping of russian troops so that they could not transfer from there. well, maintaining the defense on closer closer to the south with the task of preventing or breaking through and allowing the transfer of russian forces to close the breakthrough that is planned there and thanks to the fact that this breakthrough is a breakthrough, it is close

, close, its parameters are already understood. well, the attitude of our partners regarding how ukraine carried out this operation, there was a lot of dissatisfaction on the part of our partners, but it seems that rather ukraine convinced the partners that everything was done correctly during the last months than vice versa, that it was wrong, after all , it seems to me that the tactics that were chosen at the beginning are better. after the first unsuccessful attempts to attack the fortifications ot tactics to bite through in the south and hold to restrain the russian forces in the east and south er-e under the north in order that in order for us to bite through contrary to the vision well, what should be big to break through this defense with large corps operations, but where to break through when there is no aviation , well, the reality was completely different from what nato and american

military experts had planned at the time, but if we move on, then literally, a few days ago, a visit to kyiv took place where the miner of the united states blinkin actually a visit of this level implies some important things but what was said publicly well so radically important does not seem in your opinion do you have an understanding of what exactly is important could to discuss behind the scenes such high-ranking officials and how the relations between the united states and ukraine look in general now , is it possible to expect a change in this paradigm that was at the beginning, well, in the first months of the hostilities, what can be said that ukraine did not lose, and that russia did not win doesn't it seem that these paradigms for current situations , well, in particular, for ukraine, it does not seem to be enough. well, it is not enough, but the united states is a united state and we must take into account

the fact that it is our main partner without which in general, nothing is impossible. but the united states has its own vision, it is sometimes shocking, sometimes it is difficult to do something about it, but it is what it is now . it seems to me that the united states is already entering the electoral cycle. all american officials are already looking at the future elections and they are synchronizing this war of attrition, as they see it, they are synchronizing it with the elections that will be held, well, accordingly , the administration is looking at how what will be a victory, what will be a victory here, not even that. it is important that putin considers ukraine a victory considers the ukrainian election a victory, and what will the american voters consider a victory when, well, when the active process in the united states begins, it is important for all the participants of the er race, someone in the united states wants the image of the victory of ukraine

, according to joseph biden, to be not so brilliant, but for example on the contrary, the administrations want it to be brilliant, but taking into account the situation on the battlefield of what ukraine can do with the limitation that, first of all, no one will fight for ukraine on the battlefield once and second, no american weapons will be used outside of ukraine. two, but within the framework of this paradigm, they and one, the united states is trying to understand what kind of victory ukraine can achieve in the foreseeable future and, accordingly, what well, i think , after all, there are a lot of definitions and regarding the terms of the political processes, of course, for the united states , it would be ideal if ukraine achieved a certain result, how could it be said that this is a certain victory, certain well, maybe not the entire

territory, but it is certain and still hold elections to consolidate and show that ukraine is a democracy that, no matter what, supports its democratic procedures and achieves results on the field, because i think, well, this is too ideal a picture and we have to decide here or elections or victory, well, at least that's how it seems to me, from the middle of ukraine , this picture looks like, well, there are discussions about this , and of course, besides this picture, what is needed ? well, not a picture, but the result that the united states need in order to continue help and go through the normal elections , it's all connected. they can't give help if they can't come

normally. against the background of all these events, visits visits of heads of anti-corruption bodies to the united states, then personnel changes, it looks like there will be more personnel changes and in general well, then, around the fact that we call what is perceived as corruption, etc. all these things are also important for the united states, it has always been important and now it's important because it's important for the voters and it's important for their apparatus and it seems to me i agree with this opinion i won't say well it sounded on the air, it's among the observers because the united states is trying now they're looking for the umbilical cord here , what else is possible connects ukraine with russia and tries to cut it somewhere, they do not rule out corruption somewhere , there is some umbilical cord somewhere in this wretched swamp that still somehow ties ukraine to

russia and influences ukrainian politics, well, this after all, this is a question of trust between ukraine and the states. well, these are the questions of the elections, the elections of trust. well, of course, there is a matter of protocol that concerns the visit of the president of ukraine to new york for important events related to the un. there will be a special meeting of the council there. of course, there will be security, well, there will be all high-ranking officials , of course there will be meetings with, well, i think it will be a meeting that the president of ukraine has officials in the north. which is around this idea revolves around. here's all of this. and what was specifically said was discussed. well, of course, only those who have not heard or spoken to oleksiy know about the issue of corruption, because i partially perceived these statements about

corruption as the fact that, in principle, it has such a continuation, er, regarding the policy that people around saliva are proclaiming in order to somehow create the preconditions for not so actively providing military aid to ukraine because he remains , relatively speaking, a supporter of acting gradually to provide such gradually escalation controlled escalation and the issue of corruption was another lever of influence on the part of the americans on what is happening in ukraine, is it really now the issue of corruption that has now appeared in the front pages, can it affect the provision of military aid to ukraine? no, i don’t think so directly. does it affect the general policy yes indeed i agree with the fact that the issue of corruption has been politicized and is often politicized and why is ukraine and in ukraine if you look at it who

is not fighting corruption and how is it happens later when everything changes and it also changes, it seems that the whole ra- the same fight against corruption, but it is already fighting with others well, of course, there are many strange things here , but there is a question, if we talk about personnel changes related to corruption, ukraine is correct this is already a matter of personnel and if there are claims or um or well, if some personnel in ukraine in high positions interfere with relations with the united states or there are any claims, this is not just political corruption, it means that there is mistrust, i do not rule out that it is simply due to the deadline corruption well in principle, what is corruption in english, it means well, corruption, yes, corruption does not mean specifically that a person does not take haba, it can mean anything. it means that a person is not whole as well as

a statesman, he has some flaws . this is the american point of corruption vision and if they are, it is related to certain personnel changes in ukraine, and not only personnel, but in general there regarding fruitful persons and relations with the united states, this means that it is not just salted, it means that the american government has a certain distrust of a certain part well, to a certain part of the ukrainian elites and officials that they have complaints, there are complaints, they do not trust certain people and they have a reason for this, it is not necessarily that a person takes a bribe , there is something else, and that's why i think that's all well, it's much more serious in general. this concept of corruption is corruption, but it must be understood. so when our partners say corruption, it's corruption. if the country is corrupt, what 's wrong with its critical systems? well, it doesn't make sense to

help that, it's important that they many times in the united states, they tried to help different countries, and then it turned out that they do not want a repeat of iraq, they do not want a repeat of afghanistan, where they found that there was corruption inside and how much they help, nothing works. therefore, this issue is important for them and it is not only politicized, there is also a systemic component, that is, in fact now, in the economy , there was an interview with this head of the analytical department of intelligence of the us ministry of defense, he really said that we miscalculated in afghanistan and in cancer with the assessment of the potential and of their elite's ability to resist. and you also talk about the fact that now they are blowing, they are saying that they are on the water and they are afraid that suddenly such a model will be hidden in ukraine, then this means that the pressure on the ukrainian political elite from

the united states will increase, but this will not affect, as he understands, the supply of military aid, but still the question of military aid because there is such a well , er, approach that really, i said in the introduction that well, we need such a powerful victory on the battlefield, which is the basis for, well, at some point in time secure existence in a certain period of time, this victory is possible only with maximum military assistance from the united states, but this assistance still seems to come in smaller portions than the video we would like, this is me repeating general things, but there is a part of the truth here because without it we cannot ensure well qualitative changes on the battlefield, or is one of the components of american politics preserved in that, in particular , you ensure that if the destruction of russia is consistent with the change of leadership in the russian federation, but without the presentation of russia as

states because in this case the united states is faced with a number of challenges and these challenges look much more serious to them than the course of the war in such a managed long-term option to the question of russia remains important , but i think here there is no need to think so that the united states is too afraid of something. it seems to me that they they are not afraid of anything, well, they are afraid of something, but they are more likely to fear than to be afraid, they simply have such a philosophical vision of the world that there is no need to push countries to disintegration. only one exception was kosovo. when they decided to recognize kosovo, and that happened after that. in general, they did not recognize even the former yugoslavia's disintegration, only when germany said that we want these entities to disappear and take them to the european union in parts, but only then

the united the u.s. supported the disintegration of a dark country, and then serbia, well, coconut through, well, the question is frankly what border is there , well, it was observed that this is a very exceptional situation when the united states supports the disintegration of any country eh i think well well it doesn't match theirs and that's why i don't think they will ever push russia or plan something that will make russia fall apart there they will rather well of course they will be interested in politics but now i think because they well, they don't know how it will be there and with whom it will be there. there are certain parameters that they are considering. well, in principle , two parameters. it seems to me that there are two strategies, or after all, putin is better than the others because everything else is completely bad, or there is an option that is what.

it can be bad if it is weaker than putin, that too or to ensure stability but russia will not be so aggressive, this is also acceptable, in the end , no one is going to build democracy in russia anymore, they are fed up with development, the democrats will not build anymore, but this is a situation like now it seems to me that the policy of the united states towards russia is about the same as its arbitrary policy. they are thinking about what the situation in russia will be in a year. we will be in a year. well, in a year it will be considered the american voters would be victorious, so it would simply be that russia would have troops, or it would become weaker there , but it would start negotiations on disarmament, based on those considerations , so that the image of russia would look victorious. and for the united states, this is not aimed at this politician, but it must be understood that for american voters , it seems to me that it is important for them that we

are creating additional risks, and the collapse of russia is a risk, there is some kind of instability in russia, this is a risk with refugees from russia, this is a risk therefore, rather, they will still try to maintain the stability of russia, but within the limits of what ukraine can achieve, actually, there are two such two such things that the united states seems to me not to understand, and for that reason, blinky does not go to understand what ukraine can achieve and, accordingly, from this, they can build that policy towards russia so that it is preserved in some form, but not as aggressive as it was. well, then the question arises as to what ukraine can achieve. ukraine can achieve according to the forces and means that it has orders, if you use less means, we achieve less. and then it arises that then the process of our military operations is one way or another embedded in the paradigm of the united states so that these events in ukraine are in the format of the ukrainian-russian

war. they were somehow incorporated and, as you said at the beginning, into the election campaign of the united states so that it does not carry too many risks , and then we can say that ukraine's radical successes can also cause such risks as predicted by the americans, which the russians say they will now use there tactical weapons there will cause a cascade effect, then let the ukrainians take their time, and this means that then, relatively speaking, our advance in the south will one way or another be squeezed into the political reality that does not depend on us. well, i think it will still be as we we will want to, but as you said, what we receive from our partners is, well , it does not depend on us , and the weapons we receive do not depend to a large extent, it is obvious that the aviation will not be soon, it is obvious that we will have to eat a lot of blood, but when we

let's bite through and get to melitopol and beyond. and i think there already, well, no one will be able to stop ukraine. well, i mean, there would be melitopol there, and dzhankoy , in the end. they cannot influence the framework, they can influence that too well, unfortunately, they slow down the supply of weapons because they do not understand how it will be if ukraine wins quickly, they simply do not understand what it will be. it will happen just like with leopards, but they came across these fortifications and certifications found that they are not so effective and in the end the commercial value of leopards falls, something needs to be changed there , it can be the same with airplanes as they provided but the pilots were not trained a little or something was not added and it will break out

not so effectively, there are always these risks, but they want to minimize these risks, they will see that ukraine is already gnawing away, well, it is gnawing well . yes, here, unfortunately, it is cynical, but we have no other partners and there is no partner more powerful than the united states the united states can do a lot, but the interests do not always coincide . well , then i will ask not about the united states, but about european partners. at the current stage, their concept of deterrence, their capabilities to conduct hostilities, they are inadequate to the challenges that now actually exist on the battlefield and now they have a certain temporary such carbon is certain time reserve to ensure internal transformation to reach a different level of combat readiness and

as long as we are fighting and in fact act as the main outpost for the protection of european interests during this time nato can prepare for real combat operations and the longer we fight the easier it is for them to prepare to a certain extent, it seems to me that there are two main elements of such considerations that are very difficult to enumerate . first, in the united states, it is clear because there are clear terms, well, this is one parameter in this - it is not very fast to have time managed to do, well, launch a certain process and spin up certain processes , and secondly, after all, everything must end before the moment that this war does not turn into such an endless afghan war. that is, this is also an undesirable scenario. that is why it is necessary to end one day , preferably with the victory of ukraine, but it is necessary to understand that ukraine will be able to do so within the framework of what is given to it, not without straining and without

putting everything on the map, that's why i think the united states has such a limitation, the elections of some, the main thing must be decided. but in europe has other processes. i think they are more economical. i think i would say that now for the united for europe, the main thing is how quickly poland will take over the functions of germany during the cold war. how are the lessons of the cold war? the cold war period was such a situation when germany was an outpost of west germany, there were the groups themselves there, the concentration of forces there should have been the main battles if what happened.

in general, it is clear that poland and even the conversation about nuclear weapons in poland. i would say that we should give poland time to become a new force. well, take this step to become such a new defense force. well, the outpost, i don't even know, it's the center of gravity there, even the center of gravity of the defense force of europe, nato and the eu. i don't think that we should wait until poland deploys all its programs, but i think that if we give poland another year to build up, well, they will be grateful to us, but at what cost? always prepared more questions well, no unfortunately we have time, thank you very much for your comments, for your vision, a situation that is very interesting to our viewers and to us, why would i remind you that the press class was really on the air, oleksiy