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[000:00:00;00] some willies, but they don't have a problem with the declaration, please investigate and the law enforcement agencies are investigating and finding out what the problems are, so on the one hand, have they fulfilled the requirement of the international monetary fund and returned the electronic declaration yes, but the second requirement is that this system be open so that everyone could come to see someone worth looking at, of course everyone who has a relationship with national security , the information will be closed and there is no need to declare it until the end of the war to all those soldiers who would have, that is, a senior major and above, but uh, for now this is a closed system. the international monetary fund will not count this demand against us, so i really hope that now the president will impose another veto, using the stupidity of the deputies . look, the parliament has again adopted something corrupt. there are those on a white horse. council on the issue of anti-corruption policy, he just
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told us this last question or the last questions exactly this is corruption this is it at the highest levels, that is, on the one hand, it seems to be and is declaration, and on the other hand, how is it, and when no one can see it, it is, well , you know it. you know, god, i don’t care, and nothing else. which in which it seems that everyone is fighting corruption and when it is necessary to really fight corruption they say everything we passed the law but we closed it and we do not know now what is happening there with the deputy and the officials and so on and so on, is he stealing or not stealing excellent results work of the verkhovna rada at least in let's say yes to this industry well, now we will talk about elections, but first of all we will talk about elections not in ukraine, in russia there is such a procedure that
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for some reason russians call it local elections , but all conscious people in the world believe that this is not an election, but an appointment just this morning, i was listening to some russian political scientists, they said that among all of them, the only one where problems can arise is one. well, not a region, i don't remember what they call it there, they have many regions and the regions are autonomous, there are some formations and so on and so on . these elections are taking place now, and they are not taking place in the temporarily occupied ukrainian territories . you found the time for us. thank you very much. and please tell me, we are you, no, we are not . you can imagine how the elections are held in the temporarily occupied territories, that is, there is some
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information somehow, because we are already reading journalists saying there are violations. it is not good there they force there with machine guns with automatic weapons, they come to the houses, they pull people out, they tell them to go and vote, but on the contrary, they do not open the door at all, they sit there behind the door and are silent. in short, how is voting in the temporarily occupied territories and do you have any information on this matter, please there were no surprises, we predicted a few weeks ago that the turnout would be around 78%, united russia would be the leader in all regions of the occupied parts of the unoccupied parts, so actually there are no surprises and that is the only intrigue there in the russian elections, it is khakassia, what can i remember, yes, correct, a candidate who is not completely loyal will win . well, no, everyone is loyal there. i apologize. everyone there is thousands of percent loyal
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. but the candidacy that does not agree with krabov is the only intrigue, that is, there are no elections in russia itself, it is ridiculous because that elections are a tool of democracy, but by the way, they simulate elections quite well, that is , they have observers and international observers and electronic voting and a lot of other things, and today all the information the tape is clogged with such petty intrigues regarding the occupied territories, this is a violation of the law - this is a violation of the norms of international law, and the only thing we can do now is that the ministry of foreign affairs should work clearly so that we receive a wave of statements from western governments, western parliaments, western authorities , because these statements will fall into the basis of further sanctions on the supply of weapons, the attitude towards ukraine, this is an important moment for us, and now the question is why there was such a stormy simulation of elections in the occupied territories and
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pay attention to the difference from last year of the so-called referendum this year, they stretched the so-called election process for a whole week, that is, they arranged otaki, not even a marathon, but a series dedicated to the elections, because there is a very small percentage of thinking people in russia, a symbolic percentage , they start asking questions and what are we fighting for? what are we fighting for? are beginning to ask the question why has it not been possible to organize at least something similar to a local government in the occupied territory, that is, to the credit of our politicians and managers who remained in the occupied territory, they did not go for cooperation and pay attention even pro-russian parties in the occupied territory do not go for cooperation in one and a half years of the war, not one local council came either in kherson region or zaporizhzhia or in other regions, not a single local council moved and this is
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indicative, therefore, an imitation of this is needed the process plus imitation is so long-lasting because it is necessary to be in the brain of information waves, i will remind you that prigozhin's march to moscow is an event that occurred only less than three months ago, they are remembered even after this attack on prigozhin the presidential rating remained in the region of 9.5%, which is a lot, so putin needs to interrupt these topics in terms of information, he needs to cement his own electorate and form his electoral core and right now the biggest problem with the radical voter and the key issue is that these so-called elections in the occupied territories are a certain rehearsal presidential elections, and they will take place in a little more than six months, march of next year, and that is why we see that now
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not just whole landing parties are coming to the occupied territory there are political technologies, they bring a huge number of young people there, various student groups, student activists, that is, because of this, the election mill . they are trying to let a large number of young people pass who will later be agitators for putin, who will later be observers there, ordinary organizers of the election campaign, because putin really has the problems are real, one clarifying question was carried out, it is very important, it seems to me that it is also very direct, well, all over the world, uh, in laws, constitutions, such and such words direct comprehensive secret elections there well, somehow there are many, many words, and in russia there are also such words, that is, here we are now, you spoke, and we showed
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how they vote, and there it is obvious that these are not secret elections, there is no secret there, there is just a box standing next to the box, it is open well, there is a place next to it where you can go in, but no one comes in, they just take a ballot, cross something off somewhere, put a checkmark somewhere, and immediately throw it away. i remember i had such a case when i didn't go in. and that's how i was discovered in this booth scolded in kyiv, mr. september said that we have secret elections, go here and there , he will cross it out, and then leave, and then throw it in, and get it directly . and here, in front of everyone , they didn’t let me do this. and in russia, it is formally written in the law that elections must be held secret and not such well, for many the words are free and fair democratic elections. it is just a set of words for many. it seems to be just synonyms
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, it is not just like that yes i agree, but this is exactly the formula it complies with the laws it complies with the key criteria according to which international organizations measure there osce india hero others evaluate the conduct of the elections. and you mentioned that you weren't allowed to go to the polling booth and that you can't openly fill in the ballot there. fortunately , ukrainian elections meet these international standards. such cases are the most typical for us. in principle, we do not care about such small violations regarding russia, how the world will evaluate their elections, but these resolutions of parliaments and governments are important for us. it is important that the elections are recognized as illegitimate as illegitimate in general. this would be a very important signal.
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we must now convey to the world a clear position that in zaporizhzhia, kherson oblast, there was not just an imitation of elections, there were efforts to implement mechanisms, for example , to mobilize about the census, to take non-charitable people into pencil, these are serious enough things, there was nothing to do with the elections at all, but here you are now video that they voted in the park behind the screen. by the way , they voted for any passport, for a ukrainian passport, for a russian one, they drove around houses in minibuses, they knocked on doors , because the so-called elections for russians are the possibility of conducting a conditional population census regarding the mobilization of men. this is a very serious signal. if someone now hears us in the occupied territories, then for our citizens it is necessary to say. people in one and a half years after february 24, finally turn on your brains. your
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apartments and houses are not worth it for your men to be mobilized. to the russian army , and the probability of everything will be i will even beat you, mr. oleksiy, i just looked at the computer when i was driving to work he was seen at the police station, the police came and handed him a summons. go the day after tomorrow, the elections will end and you will go to the army to fight against ukraine. and it turns out that she will also help putin hold the elections and join the army and they will kill him there. i hope so, what is happening now is very important information
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. the buryats are not sorry or the chinks either. the fewer chechens remain, the safer the region will be in the future, and as the russian press writes, i am quoting verbatim. why do we feel sorry for the khokhlovs, that is, it is just hatred for ukrainians, and therefore repeat, repeat, what the soviet army did. - when during the second world war, when the dnipro was red with blood, this is what they can do now, because those citizens who remained in the occupied territories need to think very carefully , mobilization on the ethnic principle is possible and for men of conscription age, the risks are simply colossal, and by the way, you can escape from there for the time being, eh, the last question is espionage. i would call this question rather espionage, if there was a so-called referendum in crimea regarding the fate of crimea, then i
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met mustafa gadze milov, who said that we found what actually participated, 42% participated, and 37 out of 42 voted there. do you have any possible solutions to find out how many people actually voted? i'm not saying for whom but when you say they want to have 70-80%, and the ukrainians write that the voting is going very sluggishly , well, the press, journalists who probably have some sources of their own there in crimea or there in the occupied territories, in principle, it is possible thanks to ukrainian intelligence thanks to the cabinet, you e- e electoral committee to find out, at least at individual polling stations, what is the real picture of citizen activity in these so-called
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elections. i think it is simply unrealistic. organization of the elections is simply unrealistic. well, i think that even this information will not give anything to the party, because the whole civilized world understands that the task of russia is to move towards brezhnev's indicators, i.e. 99.9, and that's why we actually made quite bold predictions based on the so-called turnout and according to the results of united russia. well, it is obvious that everything is done quite clearly under a copycat . it is impossible to find out the exact results. but is it necessary to find out? because the whole civilized world does not perceive the so-called elections and real elections in russia as instrument of democracy, etc. by the way, it was extremely important that the last presidential election in russia there was an extremely large research conducted on the shortcomings of russian democracy jointly by the new newspaper - it was a more or less neutral and truthful source of information, there was a huge study that showed that in certain large
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regions in particular in the caucasus, in the krasnodar region, the percentage of falsified votes was 30-35% depending on the region, that is , what we call fake votes, what we call throwing away is a huge study there was only a discussion, that's all we are forced to go to the next page of our today's program oleksiy koshin, political scientist, head of the voter committee of ukraine , and now we are from the occupied territories to the balkans to the balkans natalka ishchenko, project manager balkan reviews will appear now we will start asking very, very serious questions to mrs. natalya good health i congratulate you good afternoon hello so the question is simple, what is the autocephalous montenegrin orthodox church, is there a serbian
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orthodox church nearby, or is there, that is, i was in the last time, when i was in montenegro several years ago, there were other ministers, and one of the ministers was there, he told me that among the interests of montenegrin officials, it was how ukraine went to the tomos, and how did they also go, and they asked our officials . and what you did that how did you start and so on what is happening now in the orthodox churches in montenegro, this is the appearance of a new leader, this is a serious victory of montenegro over serbia, yes, let's say abstractly, you know , so far it is very far away. the fact is that the montenegrin church in montenegro has very few supporters, even patriotic montenegrins say that after all we are forced
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to go to the serbian church because it is canonical and, unfortunately, there are such a majority, even ultra-patriots , patriots of montenegro, support the montenegrin independent church in that form in which it is now, but as you correctly pointed out, this church wants to obtain the tomos, as well as the ukrainian church, in fact, until the paradox until the ukrainian church has received the tomos, the relationship between the ukrainian church the kyiv patriarchate and the montenegrin church, which considers itself autocephalous, were very close, and you are showing mr. boris , who leads the black sea church, now he
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studied in ukraine and received a spiritual education, and there were other options for interaction, and when the orthodox church of ukraine finally became canonical from all points of view, montenegro also began to move in this direction, but at the same time, the serbian church became active, and in general, serbian supporters and churches and the serbian world, and serbian forces came to power in montenegro and in order for the church to receive the tomos, the help and support of the state is also needed, well, this is not available now, and the montenegrin church has, so to speak, gone to such a margin, but i see that something is happening now and a new face - this is a new leader has come to the church.
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he will probably modernize the church and try to get the blessing of the tsar’s council , as they say in the balkans or constantinople , the very important point here is that this new leader does not cause irritation in bartholomew , but here are others who were the leader before that, well at the head of the head of the montenegrin church he was just in an ancient confrontation with bartholomew personally, so to speak, and that is why it was also the second er second obstacle to obtaining the tomos, but now we will see how it is with the new leaders natalka look at but let's go like this with uh, how to say how
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we were taught in the arctic millinism from simple to complex, i was taught marxism, montenegrins, they are some kind of drift in the direction of montenegrinness because as far as i understand there have been many years well they are yes well yes well we if well, we are, in principle, we are serbs. well, we are like, well, so, so a little montenegrin. serbs have this national attitude. somehow, i, not i , have never felt that they are separate, it's like ukraine in 1992. ukrainian russkie ok, but i can't say that they were all nationalists. and in montenegro, there is some kind of movement in the direction that, after all, it is a separate state, what is it? yes, it is friendly, it can be serbia and so on, but that's all well, is it already something
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separate or there is no such thing, mykola you wrong because you say as a person who in montenegro was mainly in the city of budva, but if you go to the capital, i didn't get there. i really wanted to swim in the sea, but i was already there in the capital, but were you in the city of cetinje ? no, i wasn't if you had visited the city of cetinje, that is the capital, as they are called, the historical capital of montenegro, and asked them questions about the history of montenegro, about the relationship with serbia, you would have learned that there are montenegrin montenegrins who at one time fought for their independence, serbia was when the kingdom of the serbs of croatia and the slovenes was created, do you remember those times 100 years ago in history, there were montenegrins who
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did not support this union and they fought , they simply joined the partisans and fought, as they said, the serbian occupiers and in fact the announcement independence in montenegro and the 2006 referendum was just a movement to restore independence. they don't say independence, they don't say montenegro became independent in 2006. no , they say what they restored. the independence that was taken away was taken away by serbia and having created together with other balkan peoples the kingdom of serbia itself, serbs, croatians and slovenes, montenegrins were then , so to speak
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, de facto recognized by such and other serbs. what is the shadow on the screen now that is the center of such montenegrin patriotism ? there are very few of such montenegrins as a percentage . to imagine a change in serbia's official belgrade policy, more pro-european, less pro-russian, and suddenly this will prevail, then, in principle
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, the problems of the balkans will be solved. western balkans and in general, in all the balkans, that is , serbia as a factor of destabilization, well, through russia. there we understand how it is all done. i understand correctly that serbia is the main irritant for all neighbors and not only neighbors in the balkans and you know how strange it is that even the europeanization of serbia does not help in this case, because now serbia is on the way to joining the european union, and it has already started this entry. that is, it is not just a candidate, it is already a country that joins, it is significant part of the accession to the eu passed , but this not only did not affect the fact that it became less winnistic in relation to neighboring countries, but on the contrary, in recent years , the politics of belgrade has become radicalized
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, policies have already begun to manifest openly, and belong to the ruling power, politicians who say about the need to build a serbian world by analogy with the russian one, now serbia spends a huge amount of money on defense, the most in recent history, it is expanding the army, well, that is, and at the same time joining the eu, that is, europeanization is not a recipe for appeasing serbia, but it is you that's what you say that i, well, it's obvious to me that russia is sick , i don't remember who said that even before the first world war, the sick person of europe - these are the balkans, then they said so and so, er, the sick person of the world -
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this is russia, and i understand that it is a disease. and serbia has some foundations, here they are. for some reason , they have some kind of logic. is it just a disease? we want to invade our large army , we threaten everyone here, we will not allow anyone to develop independently, is there any ideology, some kind of philosophy, why, just because it was once ours, it is so , russia says well, it was ours, we will now take it for ourselves, since it was ours, and serbia says, well, it was from ours , as if it will be ours, is there any more realistic picture of the world in serbs, well, serbs a little more realistic than the russians in the sense that they understand that no one will let them start a war literally in the center of europe, and that's why lately what i'm saying is radicalization, radicalization is happening in a hybrid sense, there is an army, they are increasing, but in such nightingales what clashes do they not want to enter into? obviously, they
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just want to threaten it. first, and secondly , they bet on the serbian orthodox church as a soft power and, for example, in the same montenegro, the influence has increased. belgrade it is because of the church and that is what they say that the influence is so hybrid that serbia uses it on a full scale as prescribed, so to speak, in the textbooks , what about the hybrid influence there and a demonstration of what power, but just a demonstration there and religion there and the cultural inspection is very powerful there and influence on children, for example, the president of serbia, for example, gathers near him in belgorod all children of serbian nationality from the entire region and conducts such political information and training for them on the territory
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of serbia in order to convince them that they are serbs and precisely their country, serbia, is not the country they live in and what kind of citizens they will soon become. that is, there is such a hybrid influence of serbia and it is really intensifying. and what kind of ideology? to create a country into a state , so to speak, officially with official borders, but they want to make such an informal ritual serbian state that will seize the territories of neighboring countries, the last question of ms. nataliya and who is the main character when i was on the croatian islands, i even bought a badge for myself somewhere that tito likes, well, i mean, iosypu likes the simple ones and i like them, and i mean , croats wear such a badge, and if i understood
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that tito is an important person for them, in serbia we are still in touch and in serbia who is who in their heads who is who in their heads putin's stalin in the heads tito and a and in the serbs tsar lazar is the one who died on the kosovo field and that's why kosovo well and there on and on further further all these stories yes well i hope we are not natalia ishchenko, we are not talking for the last time, the head of the balkan observer project. she looked around with our help and at least i began to understand more details after talking with the lady than before i talked with her, and now i leave all of you to anna eva melnyk , who will tell you the latest news from espresso tv thank you all for your attention and we will see you next week mykola
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veresen was with you and it will definitely be anna, i am in amelnik good evening, thank you for your work , the news editor will continue to work , we will tell you about the most important things every year on the second sunday on september 11, they remember the victims of the forced eviction of selemkivshchyna to the territory of holmshchyna, southern podlasie, lyubachivshchyna, and western boykivshchyna. on september 9, 1944, the ussr and poland concluded an agreement on the so-called mutual exchange of population . ukrainians were forcibly evicted from their ethnic territories to the ukrainian ssr, and poles from ukraine to poland were then deprived of their homes. thousands of people, let's remember, in the evening, the occupiers
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