[000:00:00;00] i gave this very simple and clear example to the new chairman of the committee several times. if, god forbid, the chairman wants to get married, then i will choose his wife, and let him get married, and then it will mean that he is married. the council of justice, having taken away the constitutional powers from the constitutional body, so they will then consider the conclusions of the disciplinary inspectors and so they will then evaluate these exhibitions, but they cannot themselves to consider any cases, this is a huge problem. the first problem is the second problem. what is the need for this law? the problem with this law has arisen once again in that it turns out that ukrainians, according to

those who will vote for this law, are inferior because we cannot do without external advice to elect seven people, seven honest and independent people who will be able to elect these disciplinary inspectors, it turns out that we are the nation that today protects the country and the nation that today is the shield of europe. we are not in a position to elect six or seven independent people who will be able to elect disciplinary inspectors, last time i named a number of names that, in my deep conviction, are indisputable authorities and in jurisprudence on issues of integrity, this professor kazyubra is a former judge of the constitutional court, shishkin didkovskii dombrovskii, i can name many other names that are independent, honest, impartial people and who really will be able

to evaluate both professionally and honestly those candidates whom you want to choose as disciplinary inspectors, and for this we do not need advice from the outside, we know all these people, according to the ukrainian constitution, only citizens of ukraine have the right to take part in the functioning of state authorities and management, including in the formation of the judicial system, we are being pushed to violate this constitutional requirement and we are being asked to do something else, the third position. with the help of foreign advisers, advisers, all embassies of foreign countries sincerely welcomed the election of members

of the supreme council of justice. these disciplinary inspectors, who will also be elected by foreigners, but we do not trust any of the members of the vrp, why can't we return to the constitutional way of functioning of the constitutional body in ukraine? who among the members of the vrp is not trusted? disciplinary proceedings because there are no disciplinary inspectors and one more story , you all remember that a few weeks ago this verkhovna rada adopted a law on the restoration of the disciplinary function of the vrp, and by the way, even though temporary, but a return to the constitutional system when the supreme council of justice will be able to bring judges to disciplinary responsibility without any e-e disciplinary inspectors, but no one

has introduced the restoration of the disciplinary function of the vrp, the immediate restoration of the disciplinary function of the vrp , which was tied to this law today we are considering why there is no trust in the verkhovna rada there is no trust in the legal policy committee there is no trust in the chairman of the committee i do not understand these games in fact we need it was immediately necessary to restore the disciplinary function, by the way, one representative of the so-called projects, a representative who took part in the work of our committee, he clearly said , you know, i don’t care when you restore the disciplinary function, that is, a person does not care when the possibility of bringing judges to disciplinary responsibility will be restored in ukraine the expert does not care when when this system will work. unfortunately, such and

such experts are in quotation marks. the very purpose of the experts is to dictate today to the ukrainian parliament how we should act. i say it again we, as parliamentarians, should definitely not shy away from any advice, absolutely, but let's think critically, let's adhere to the ukrainian constitution. let's live by our laws as long as we live by our laws. we are a state. if this does not happen , we are someone else, thank you. put demchenko as a serious good then and then the restoration of ukraine, please, the numbers of the edits or how you will put you there confirmation, but i am not confirmed 4.3.6.4.3.7 two edits

because from the very beginning 2 minutes immediately two a few minutes, please, colleagues, i understand that the question of judges is probably not of interest to everyone here, but if i say that the issue of peps is included in this bill , the issue of peps is included in this bill and these amendments are confirmed, you put the judges in the conditions of how we have now removed the bill on peps, what exactly namely, there will be an endless statute of limitations, lifelong disciplinary liability, that is, any judge can be hanged on a hook and accordingly pull this hook for the rest of his life, these amendments are completely nullify the statute of limitations on these proceedings when, in addition to this, you and i are naturally against the law on peppa about its principle of lifetime responsibility, then accordingly we have the position of the european court of human rights, this is the organization that will be our e-e oriole to which we have to orient ourselves if we speak to

the european union, colleagues i grew pl has already said the relevant decision unfortunately for ukraine, the decision of the wolf in against ukraine, he cites stated a violation of the eighth article of the convention as a result of a violation of the principle legal certainty in view of the lack of legal certainty. the legislation of ukraine will provide for the statute of limitations for bringing a judge to justice for breach of oath. there cannot be a life sentence for deputies. and for judges, they can support these amendments then, also because then it is worse than deputies and the last and last colleagues in our lives

have the opportunity to vote on this law several times that's right, mr. serhiu. now we will find out the restoration to take into account the edit or to confirm if you have the master 's one to take into account, it is for confirmation . who is voronko prykhodko savytska, please put it in better

, yes, everything is fine, talk , the system is happy. we invite you to conduct some kind of technical inspection of the hall. they put e-e, rather, they proposed to the committee, but it did not take something into account, it is about the fact that we ask to remove the phrase that members of the high council of justice can be part of the competitive commission for the selection of inspectors, this norm is also based on the conclusion of the anti-corruption committee, which noted that in such in this case, there may be a conflict of interest among the members of the justice council evening, since then they will

conduct interviews and many deputies submitted such a proposal, so i wanted to hear the logic of the head of the committee, why it was not taken into account in view of the conclusion of the anti-corruption committee and as you told me that there seems to be no desire of the members of the vrp to enter, if there is no desire, then in principle it is possible to take it into account, and which number 369 is good, the position of the committee is yes 300 yes, the 369th reference was opened by the committee, the position is very simple for us

there were also recommendations of three e-projects from three of our international partners who insisted that three members of the high council of justice must be part of the competition commission, we talked about it with them and told him how much work must be carried out, plus there may indeed be a conflict of interests, that is why we agreed on a reasonable wording that the supreme council of justice itself appoints members to the competition commission. the supreme council of justice can appoint any specialist , including non-members of the supreme council of justice, and i confirm with conversations with the supreme council of justice , they were not going to appoint themselves in order not to create conflicts of interest, but it was a disagreement, the projects demanded that they

necessarily enter, we still defended i will consider a reasonable position, so i ask you to reject this amendment . thank you . the next term we made what disciplinary inspectors are appointed not for life, not permanently, but for 5 years, for a certain period of their work, and why not 5 years, as

was the case in the editorial office of the first reading, but seven years so that the first two teams of disciplinary inspectors were chosen according to a special model that provides for an open transparent competition so that there are no claims about the integrity and professionalism of these people who will perform a fairly responsible job so that there are two terms of appointment thank you yes this is a confirmation correction number 56 committee it is taken into account people 's deputy maslov people's deputy sloveneska proposes to confirm please vote for 211 decision not adopted correction no

confirmed and 362 should be put now no no it's the same good one more yes please slavsk 4 more this concerns the issue of assistants of the supreme council of justice it appeared already in the second reading the main legal department in its remarks which by the way are very thorough on 14 pages very often mention that this draft law violates the constitution noted, among other things, that this amendment appeared in violation of article 116 of the regulation, it is not completely clear about the remuneration of these assistants , as well as whether they will be subjects declaration therefore, i ask you to confirm these amendments, they are related to 77-78

and the arguments of the chairman of the committee, the position of the committee . an independent separate subdivision of the structure of the supreme council of justice, then for the performance of 21 members of the supreme council of justice, it is quite logical that there should be assistants as well as some judges, one of the functions of which should be decided by the higher council justice to consider 11,000 treasures without assistants, they will not do it, that is why they introduce this, it is conducted within the budget of the supreme council of justice, therefore, i ask you to support this proposal, this amendment, thank you, amendment number

once again 80 77 17 8 78 78 78 and they are logically related to each other, yes what's wrong here? the fact is that 77 is partially taken into account and 78 is taken into account in full. which one do you want to put 77 on the 77th? it is good to correct the number 77 of people's deputy maslov by the committee. it is taken into account partially. people's deputy slavytska suggests putting it on confirmation please vote green green necessarily for 235 the decision has been made the amendment remains partially taken into account by the committee

the next next amendment is 337 but it seems to me that mr. demchenko also wanted to put numbers on it and not in another and yes, this amendment concerns the broadcast of the e-e discipline - the meeting of the discipline - cities e p demchenko there will be voiced this position, i will then take it off ok please demchenko 436 437 with which we will start the card must be inserted 436 436 the correction is related to it then 437 please put the

correction data to confirm do not support them colleagues, first of all, they contradict the european conventions on the protection of human rights and freedoms, as i said before, and secondly, they discriminate against a separate group of judges, violating their rights due to circumstances that arose not through their fault, but through the ranks of the state itself, and it is not possible to establish unlimited terms of prosecution for life imprisonment how about the peps thank you i'm putting the vote on i will please the committee see the colleagues of clean water manipulation reminded you of the questions of the peps here the question to the peps at all there is no language at all and here there is no restriction eh the rights of individuals or lifelong responsibility are not discussed here, the story is completely clear, now 11,000 complaints are in the high council of justice . if this amendment does not pass on the part of such proceedings, on the part of well-founded complaints

, the proceedings will simply be closed. i need to support, thank you, i am putting to a vote the proposal of people 's deputy demchenko to confirm the amendment number 436 by the committee, it has been taken into account, please vote to confirm the amendment 436 245, the decision has been made, the amendment remains 430 is not taken into account, then we proceed to vote on the draft law dear colleagues, i am putting to the vote the proposal to adopt in the second reading and in general with the necessary technical legal amendments the draft law on amendments to the law of ukraine on

the judiciary and the status of judges and some laws of ukraine on changing the status and order formation of the service of disciplinary inspectors of the high council of justice, registration number 94-83-second reading and in general with the necessary technical and legal amendments , please vote, please support for 268, the decision was adopted, the law was adopted as a whole. thank you. let's move on to the next item on the agenda. this is the second reading, as well as bill number 9638, a draft law on amendments to some legislative acts of ukraine on strengthening the social protection of military policemen . there will be european

solidarity, three edits and more dmytro oleksandrovich razumkov, please, who edits the european goncharenko, please , goncharenko, gerashchenko and fedina, good. laska goncharenko, amendment number oleksiy goncharenko, amendment number six, he would be a draft law, i urge everyone to support it. finally, we are solving the issue of the state emergency service workers who were captured, in general , we do not pay due attention to the state emergency service system, after the cancellation of the thirty-year allowance, they lost their allowances and salaries, and their other issues are not solved so we need to solve it, we need to support this service, because they are also on the front line in reality, and let's not forget about it, this law also finally solves the issues regarding conscripts and cadets, including. by the way, this will apply to the cadets of the state emergency service. the additional payments that we gave you for them, 6,000 hryvnias for conscripts and 2-350 for cadets, will be

unconditional, and not as it is currently interpreted by the government, which is either six or 30 and so on , we must pass it, the law is very important, colleagues urge everyone to support and not forget about these categories . the work of the parliament and the working group, or to solve the issues of really captured representatives of the emergency services at the same time. i would like to draw the attention of my colleagues that the working group has not yet registered the promised laws on the status of the ubd, this bill was registered by petro poroshenko. our team and we we propose to accept it so that 850,000 representatives of the armed forces of ukraine automatically and not in

queues receive ubd and it is also very important dear colleagues and ms. maryana, who is also a representative of the working group representing power so that these laws are good that we are voting on, the government is doing it abnormally that the instructors who are still injured, the cadets, conscripts do not receive extra payments, and here we have as parliament to return the question hour to the government and ask , please, fedina romanovna thank you for amendment 48 for confirmation, in fact, i would like to emphasize that this draft law is a very rare example of how effectively it is possible to work together, and i would like to emphasize that we have more than 850,000 military personnel who have not yet they have ubd the other day at the train station. i also gave a lift to military personnel who have been on the front line for a year and a half and they still have no ubd. they don't even know where the documents are, so you wanted to ask our parliamentarians in parallel to

bring out the session hall as soon as possible and vote on bill 9680 to start solving this problem, and after that to also participate in ensuring that the ministry finally approves all procedures and all payments that will finally have the opportunity to provide for military personnel be paid because in this case what we saw was total disrespect for our servicemen and abuse of their families. i have repeatedly raised it in the working group, but for some reason it is not accepted . a serviceman who has been released from captivity is granted a three-month leave with preservation of financial support with all payments , including bonuses and allowances that he

received during the captivity of colleagues. this is simply protection for those people who were in captivity and the opportunity for them to get a three-month vacation. i ask you to support this amendment because it was also requested by the azov patronage service and the military personnel themselves and those boys who got out of captivity, so i propose to support it and give the boys such an opportunity, the position of the committee, and the amendment was rejected because it requires quite a lot of revision and changes in the correlating bills, so further revisions are proposed in the working group. we also e in working group a-a, we are working on a comprehensive solution to the issue of prisoners, there is a problem and release, so the specified amendment, in particular , requires the determination of the duration of such a leave in calendar days, so such a leave will require amendments to the other laws that i mentioned regarding the introduction of a new type of leave

of the need to introduce the time required for traveling on leave and back , taking into account the provisions of article 10 of the same law regarding the procedure for granting leave to military personnel, we must therefore finalize it in to the next package that is why it was no, it was rejected because it still needs changes in additional laws , in particular i am putting to a vote the proposal of people's deputy skorokhod to take into account amendment number 38 of its authorship by the committee, it was rejected, i ask you to vote for 130 for 140 the decision is not accepted the amendment is not taken into account and the next number i to i don't understand what needs to be there, it needs to be worked out because we are on vacation

. i have considered the issue. i have repeatedly raised this issue. institutions regardless of the form of ownership state private communal servicemen have the right to independently choose a medical institution for treatment and rehabilitation, regardless of the form of ownership of the medical institution, if the medical institution guarantees to cover all financial obligations for treatment and or rehabilitation, this is also an amendment requested by the patronage service of azov colleagues to date , a military serviceman cannot be transferred to another medical institution without a crazy total bureaucratic procedure and the position of doctors about the fact that everyone should be on equal terms, this is the position , you know, some will die, and others may be saved, so give the boys a choice , the committee's position and yes, the amendment was rejected, because this

amendment to the law on the basics of health care , we are ready to further refine it and submit it to the relevant bill stavlyu for the vote, the proposal to take into account the washing machine number 39 of the people's deputy skorokhod, it was rejected by the committee, please vote 146 the decision was not taken, the correction was not taken into account dmytro oleksandra, do you have a consideration or confirmation of not taking into account serhiy chpravka 46 dear colleagues, it does not add anything to additional payments, payments from the budget, there are no expenses, but we all remember that the government must be responsible to its defenders, especially to those who died and

their families . 15 million hryvnias. i am asking you very much that the new government, when it resigns, does not change something again at the request of the families of the victims to fix payments of 15 million hryvnias at the level of the law. and let's not hunt, let's not manipulate any it does not require additional expenditures from the budget, it is already fixed at the level of the state's promise to the defenders and their families

, please support amendment number 40, the position of the committee will be 46, frame 46 is rejected.