[000:00:00;00] welcome to the broadcast of the program of the ukrainian service voice of america time and host ostap yarysh the armed forces of ukraine struck near yevpatoria and destroyed the russian anti-aircraft complex triumph cost more than a billion dollars according to reports from the bible the operation used drones to disable russian radars and then cruise missiles to defeat of anti-aircraft launchers, western observers write that this also sends a signal to countries that use russian air defense systems s-400 for their own defense if i were ukraine that bought the s400, i would panic, writes former us congressman adam kingsinger, an expert from the hudson institute, lukofi adds, turkey should think carefully about its use of the s400 in modern warfare, the new york times draws attention to the fact that the attack near yevpatoria took place after the armed forces of ukraine struck two russian ships in

sevastopol, what has become of ukraine's most massive attacks and ukraine's boldest attacks on russia's infrastructure in occupied crimea, experts of the analytical center the atlantic council thinks that getting rid of the russian fleet in the black sea would be a great strategic advantage for ukraine and solve the problem with the export of grain . former minister of defense of ukraine andriy zagorodniuk believes that here kyiv can rely only on itself. challenge this not only diplomatically, but actually in a military way, and until this happens, russia understands that it can do whatever it wants and it will continue for now in an expert environment ukrainians are of the opinion that we should simply continue to destroy russian ships in the black sea one by one, and in fact this

is the only practical way for us to solve this problem, and the situation in the black sea region is also tense in the sky. bbc journalists learned that last year a russian pilot almost shot down a plane of the royal air force of great britain , which carried out reconnaissance over the black sea , then it was called a completely dangerous incident by the british government, but they did not give it a big deal, but now journalists claim that the real version of the event differed from the official one, let's talk about it with our european correspondent bohdan tsyupan, who is now joining the broadcast from london, because given i congratulate you. so, the first question is what actually happened in the end, was it a provocation by russia or a misunderstanding, and how serious it was in general so there was a risk of a british plane being shot down over the black sea. it is also possible when it

happened . the incident that took place almost a year ago on september 29 of last year and after that, approximately three to four weeks passed when the british ministry of defense recognized this incident and the then minister ben wallace said that london actually accepts and agrees with the explanation of russia, which also tried to downplay the importance of that situation and explained it as a technical problem, but now journalists have received additional information that gives reason to believe that it was not a technical problem at all, that it was a very serious

situation that threatened life, probably to dozens of british specialists because it is a british reconnaissance plane that can carry up to 30 people. this plane is quite large, it looks like a passenger plane, it actually has no weapons filled with electronics inside and is designed to monitor the area, it picks up electronic signals , etc. the plane was actually in international over international waters in the black sea, and no country actually had the right to attack it, but from what has become known, we now see that in fact russian pilots su-27 fighter jets tried to shoot down the britannia and his plane was not shot down, in fact, only because

russian weapons malfunctioned, the fact that these details are emerging now and that this incident was obviously so serious and threatening only adds such additional gloomy touches to the overall very of the difficult situation in the black sea, as you said at the beginning ostap bohdan and why exactly did the british government then decide not to disclose this story? well , we can see the reaction, as you say, to it even a year later. after this incident, in all similar cases, we will remember for example, the case with the american drone, also in that region, which fell as a result of the actions of russian russian pilots, and by the way, at least one of them was given a medal for this in russia, meanwhile, in the west, they say that it is

about unnecessary risks, it is about a threat to people's lives, which is absolutely not necessary in this situation, they emphasize professionalism and that but let's return to the situation in the black sea again, russia's actions create very threatening situations, and in particular, these days , the british prime minister's decision made public another information that russia tried to fire at the cargo ship with its missiles, and also, it had been for some time, but the announcement appeared now in the fenot lecture , russia's withdrawal from the black sea grain initiative shows its intentions to spread suffering in the future, while putin drags on by putting forward impossible demands, he destroys ukrainian ports and grain warehouses in just

one month russia destroyed more than 270 thousand tons of grain, enough to feed a million people for a year today i can tell the parliament that thanks to declassified data intelligence, we know that on august 24, the russian military directed several missiles at a civilian cargo ship in the black sea, demonstrating how desperate putin is for bohdan. what did they do in britain? well, in the end, nato has some conclusions . after this story, we now see that these are not isolated cases when it becomes a threat yes, russia is for nato countries, including, well , it is obvious that cases are constantly being made both at the political level and at the military level. for example, we now know that british reconnaissance planes continue to carry out

flights in that part of the black sea, that is, britain has not stopped its activity in monitoring the situation with the movement of ships in that part of the sea, ships that go to ukraine or from ukraine, there are aspects that obviously indicate caution, very often these planes is it possible that in most cases the fighters of the british air force are super-evading, that is, conclusions are drawn constantly bohdan, thank you, i think we will continue this topic with you in our next broadcasts, in particular, in the voice of america briefing thank you for this. bohdan tsyupin was in touch with us from london and we continue with other topics. now ukraine is the most mined country in the world. this is what the ukrainian government says and international organizations confirm. the territory of ukraine is covered with at least an area equal to the area of ​​the state of florida with landmines. squares of uruguay

, experts say, but how does it affect the course of the counteroffensive, in particular, they spoke at the panel of the atlantic council think tank in washington, nowhere else on the planet was there such a huge minefield territories this has never happened before and when people comment that it is somehow possible just somehow pave the way and change everything overnight it is ridiculous because not only the current technical solutions do not work we do not have spare tools that worked because we have never encountered such demining before, never. therefore, to people who have no idea what is happening on the ground, i think it is too early to say that something works or something does not work. and about how the demining of ukrainian territories takes place and how difficult it is today, on the air of the voice of america briefing, we spoke with a military correspondent and editor-in-chief of the investigative publication info mood stanka, who recently visited the border of donetsk and zaporizhzhia and observed

the work of ukrainian sappers . we can view a fragment of our conversation. both civilian pickers and the people who go there to pick mushrooms are blown up, for example, there was a case a long time ago when a whole family was blown up because they didn't have time, here we are talking about civilians exchange of vegetables that are demining in those regions where the front line has already moved forward significantly and civilian deminers can already work and continue . a year in the kyiv region, people still believe that it has already arrived there since march, from the end of march, yes, the beginning of april , even more than a year, that is, ricky is there . you can say almost one

and a half. the zaporizhzhia region is where counteroffensive actions are now taking place, the russians are mining and mining and mining where the ukrainian army is advancing er forward there, if you had a little insight , the russians are again mining new er new lines can actually work super effectively there , so that it is barely visible, it is there 3-4-5 hours maximum and then he needs a break because he loses vigilance, loses attention, and loss of vigilance, attention, attention , understanding of safety is a risk of dying , just don't step on something, think about how sappers on the front line are working now, are you working? you try to work there until dawn, that is, even when it’s gray, yes, you can’t work at night either , because you can’t see anything and it’s dangerous

and very slow. for example, a mortar shelling of a latin minefield begins and you have to run away from this copper field somewhere or lie down where you understand these mines and if the mines are falling around you and i'm not even on earth, that is, this university is one of the first goals now for the russians ukrainian military sapper i mean in relation to some decisions , well, it was said that these are natanks like furrows, so now they hang that it is a little more if it is effective, i think that it is noticeable there, of course but it is already when you storm there. yes, with such tanks, too, but at least these tanks don’t have the same hard work as on miclips and they don’t blow up all around, but these are also not all the given solutions and not those solutions that don’t speed up the contrast right there, as they said we

are just as worried that one day is 30 days demining , that is , you have to understand why everything is so slow , and how much it is hindering the advance of ukrainian troops now in the south, in the east, precisely the mini fields. and everything if it turns out well, i think that everyone can watch not only our report there, but because it is such and such about the family work of a sapper, and watch there a video of the 47th brigade, one of the new brigades, which is just the right thing to do for you participation in assault offensives, counter-offensive actions, and they themselves filmed one of the episodes as they try to pick up wounded soldiers and there, well, they drive up to bradley, as they try to simply get out of this brandy, soldiers to help the wounded, how their legs are torn off, and everything, that is,

mines are everywhere around and just well it is impossible to get around it in any way, even when people supposedly know the path, but still can’t, that is, the only thing that saves him there is also from anti-tank weapons, he er, it’s er, western armored equipment, which after all, no, blowing up on these anti-tank mines are not immediately destroyed, the fighters are not destroyed and mostly remain intact in it, but well, it often comes out from behind as well or partially fails and needs to be repaired, but at least people stay alive, so here is a story about how ukrainian literature is demined and in in this context , the united states provides assistance not only with military and military equipment, but also with international cooperation to investigate russian war crimes in to ukraine and bring the guilty to justice, minister of justice marie harvant said in particular during a reception

at the ukrainian embassy in washington, we freeze and seize the assets of the russians involved, we investigate war crimes that fall under our jurisdiction, we closely monitor and cooperate with our ukrainian partners to support their investigations the urgency of russian war crimes, which i clearly understood during my two trips to ukraine, where i met with local prosecutors, we work with our international partners to ensure accountability for russian war crimes and crimes against humanity and we are investigating russian crimes of aggression as highlighted by my trip to meet with the chief prosecutor of the international criminal court of asia - this includes cooperation with the icc in the investigation of crimes against foreign citizens and atrocities in ukraine we are united in our determination that the russian perpetrators of aggression of war crimes and crimes against humanity in ukraine will not get away with it, and we are united in our

knowledge to support the people of ukraine in longing for opportunities and freedom, this is the comment of the united states minister of justice, and we continue our issue with other stories , a biker, a monk and a chaplain, this is all sold by tarnavskyi, who combines, at first glance , completely different lifestyles, the love of motorcycles the husband received from his father, and he decided to become a priest when he first crossed the threshold at the age of six , in 2018, the man became a member of the armed forces, and already during the full-scale war, he discovered water sports as a priest breaks stereotypes , combines biking, water sports and healing the souls of fighters will be told by tetyana kokoriyka and serhiy rybchynskyi. the love of motorcycles was born from my father, danyil tarnavskyi. my father inherited it from my father . in his time, he was an avid motorcyclist, as it was still customary to say at that time, because there was no such word as biker at that time. when my father was asleep, i could ride

a motorcycle . to take and ride 108 m. father daniil bought his first bike 15 years ago, this spring. last year, 2022 , it started to become a hobby. because this is the part of my life thanks to which, well, if you manage to relieve yourself a little talk about another one of these i would say this year, uh, from such active recreation, it is sap surf. and i often, uh, thickly, my friends ask, tell me, why did it happen to you like that? i don't know. i don't know why it really happened . because i became a member quite recently and it's a completely different feeling because each sport gives its own emotions, if, for example

, riding a bike gives a certain kind of drive, then you calm down all the more, and daniil tarnavskyi decided to become a priest when he was six years old, when he first threshold since then, i have not imagined a single sunday without a service. after school, i entered a theological seminary , became celibate and have been serving for 22 years . this life is to be lived the way i want to be a father to be with children with people from and should have hobbies and communicate with ordinary language to me i say, for example, i

am happy that i can go out into the city i can meet people who i know a lot, as it were by virtue of your official duties, you already know a lot and you can stand up and drink coffee with him. in spite of everything, if we say church ranks after school, father daniil did not serve in the army due to a domestic spine injury. but in 2018, he joined the armed forces of ukraine as civilian priest, psychologist, look in the monastery, i could imagine myself in the parish, i could imagine myself, for example, in two or three parishes at the same time, this is also possible, but the army, what was it like for me, it was a significant surprise for me there, traditional in 2019, father for the first time, danyil, together with his unit, went to the war zone in the east of the country in 2021, he received the rank of junior lieutenant of the chaplain service, and only in 2022 ukraine legislatively recognized chaplains as military

after the military chaplain e-e became a military serviceman, after which certain social guarantees were granted to him before that , a military chaplain, he was completely unprotected, despite the recognition of chaplains in the armed forces, there are not enough parish priests, he will take off his silk undercoat , which is classic shoes, and will not put it on military uniform and berets on the feet. that is, not every person will go for it and agree to it. there are not enough military chaplains, and if we rejoice in the illusory hopes that in the near future this niche will be filled 100%, then we rejoice in vain with our military father danyil is in constant contact, if not directly at the positions, then by phone, my units are also scattered all over ukraine, but if there is

a need, of course, i will go, it may be said in the evening that what is going on is needed, yours help, you need to go. i'm going to leave the next day in the morning. i'm going to the army, says father daniil, the person to whom the soldiers go in the first place to share their pain. only if the serviceman agrees, then we can talk to his commander. and if the serviceman does not agree, that's why everything remains between us. there is such a saying. and in the church there is a practice called the secret of confession . in addition to the psychological one, they escort the dead on their last journey. for me, the most difficult is the burial of military personnel, who are very young when you look at 18-20 years old at 11:25 p.m. these are the best who should create their own families, give birth and raise children, these are the people

who, by the example of their own lives, would teach their children how to love their country ukraine, lord have mercy, lord, have mercy, have mercy, lord, have mercy, father daniil promises to support the military as long as he feels needed , and when peace comes, he says he will pass on his experience to future military chaplains , while he remains in the ranks of the armed forces , to serve people and god, so may he be happy our enemies are our enemies, and we are talking about a charity fund from the city of cape may, new jersey. it was founded by three american women and since may. last year, they were able to collect half a million hryvnias for ukrainians from the founding fund. iryna solomko and pavlo terekhov talked. 10,000 dollars and such a familiar question for americans as which of the most famous town hotel and restaurant complexes, she remembers

how she asked her good macedonian acquaintance in the spring about the lack of some with his wife and children live in lutsk as her family ah and she replied i send them money every week but it is not enough they are desperate they have nothing i need money and i don't know where to get it and i immediately gave her $10,000 to send to my brother and said that we will call my friend cherichi slavka in them hey-nei cheredi clark is another resident of geplay a town in the state of new jersey on the coast of the atlantic ocean, which is known for its beaches far beyond the borders of the united states, because of these well-known settlements, the realtor says that they grew up understanding that communism - this is evil my grandfather told me that communism is not freedom, but freedom is for everyone and must be protected at

university. i studied russian history and it is so sad, all these terrible dictators who deprived people of their freedom and abused them because of it. it was incredible when ukrainians got their freedom and we as americans should do everything so that as many people as possible have freedom, this is very, very important to me. shirley also adds that when she was little, together with her father, who was a veteran of the korean war, and her brother , she probably watched all the films about the friend world war i always asked myself how did we allow this to happen, how did we allow that the war took the lives of millions and i always respected the stories of people who did anything to save the lives of people for you and families. this is not the first war in my life. she also saw the consequences in her homeland in macedonia, when slobodan milosevic started ethnic cleansing . in neighboring kosovo, she, along with her husband and brother, worked for the united nations, helping refugees

in ukraine, so when the war in ukraine began, we knew what to do, we immediately connected and we fixed logistics in ukraine, my brother founded an organization, we do good deeds for children, and our mission is to deliver aid since spring. last year, kep and the lutsk shelter sent almost 50 tons of clothes, food and other aid to ukraine. it is distributed to displaced people. where ukrainians are fleeing from the war together with his wife tetyana has several centers of assistance to the family they can also live we receive many photos from there and have already started to recognize the children once tetyana was holding a book with pictures in her hands a ten-year-old girl, she asked to hand her over to the americans so they could sell her because they mother is a pregnant widow, my heart just broke into pieces, we made them into cards

and also sold original paintings at our auctions to help this very family shirley remembers after the russians started shelling the infrastructure they started sending lighting equipment and a lot of warm clothes to ukraine, who always buy new ones , we will not send them tattered things. they lost everything and have the right to be happy with the new coats socks or nice new clothes just wrote a check for $5,000 to buy winter coats she bought them in bulk and we have already sent hundreds of winter coats and we use our own money to do this the organization helps with warm clothes and tactical medicine and the ukrainian military in the winter they sent thousands hand warmer, amen, these people are saving europe, they are saving their country, they are saving democracy, and this is a privilege, if i can send them a sweater or

a hand warmer, about 10,000 ships were donated to the ukrainian military by the owner several local shops, michelle rakovsky, jokingly, she has already stopped counting how many sweaters she has given to ukrainians. because when the boys need them and there is an opportunity to send them, we say just come and take what you need , we will support as much as you need , it is a great honor for us to participate in this , everyone has to resist evil so we are with the people of ukraine in their terrible struggle, if we can provide any comfort, it is the least we can do, isn't it, one of the volunteers of the organizations is a lucky man, mitko shirley west is jokingly called a postman, he collects, packs, and that two weeks takes away not a shipment of up to 30 boxes each weighing at least 20 kg, this is war , what does it mean to be a refugee, we know what a camp means and how mothers and children suffer, you know some people suffer because of someone

ideas, that's why we joined this mission, we do it from the heart and we are not going to stop until the war is over, one of the biggest donors to the organization is patrick magonekle, he donated 100 thousand dollars, the man says ukraine is unlucky to be geographically close to a crazy dictator that's why we defend democracy no matter where in the world ukraine is fighting and showing everyone how to resist evil we always say that the war won't end and we know it won't happen quickly soon it will be winter again so we continue to send warm clothes and food without providing, the needs are not decreasing , and the attention to the events in ukraine is fading a little . america is too far and we need to talk more about ukraine publicly in the media, the need is greater than ever, my brother says every day please, sister, we need help, we need more

of it, and shirley and sheryt her oars and their volunteers believe in the victory of ukraine and are very much looking forward to it, because when it comes , they are going to definitely travel and get to know the people who so devotedly help new jersey, iryna solomko pavlo terekhov dmytro savchuk voice of america and with that we say goodbye take care congratulations i am asking you to help us in the search for this girl her name is natalya sanina she is 14 years old the girl disappeared at the very beginning of the russian invasion nothing is known about her actually since on february 24, 2022, nataliya lived in the kherson region in the village of malokahovka, which is now temporarily occupied due to the fact that , for obvious reasons, communication with the occupied territories is complicated and in some places completely absent, so it is impossible to find out whether the girl is still in the village of malokahovka and maybe this program

will be seen on the internet by the residents of this village, so i ask you . if you know any information about natalya sanina, let us know on the hotline 116 000 , you can also write to us in the chatbot service looking for children in telegram, please do not remain indifferent. we are also looking for this brother and sister. their names are da and bohdan. the talkative boy is nine years old. his sister bohdana is 5 years old. and their father is asking for your help in the search . anyone who has seen my children please contact child search services and our police , god has done to you in the morning, because i miss my children very much, i want to see them all, mr. mykola now , more than anything in the world, wants to see his children again and, most importantly, to find out what is going on with them okay, when we talked with my husband, he was very worried, he was few in words, but it was felt with such warmth and tenderness that he