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[000:00:00;00] instead, the united states just took advantage of the absence of not only putin, but also russia to talk directly with representatives of those states that are trying to maintain neutrality or are in the conditional pro-russian or chinese camps. everyone is particularly interested in the mood of brazil . will it host the summit next year or, for example, the south african republic was given to it by itself 2025 and there were just these more informal conversations, and not only between the presidents, there are many questions, and one of them is whether brazil will personally call putin to sit the europeans would definitely not want to sit with him at the same table another question and when in three years will the states themselves accept and can they ignore russia do not invite even though it takes place in or 20 well and all this is just the subject of conversational formal discussion over coffee
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discussions about which will definitely not be published in the firing squad so, oleksandr, we heard about the main thing that there are a lot of negotiations that are going on, about which we may not even know, and we will find out exactly what was there and what is going on, a lot of work for the formation of the wording of this final declaration. please tell me what weight such a declaration has, so much passion, so much effort, so much time is spent on it, and what does it mean? well, first of all, we need to start from the nature of the g20, because the g20 is not a formalized international organization, although you know that in some ways it is reminds a little of such a world economic government, which gathers in order to solve specific problems, specific for this became the impetus for the creation of the e-e economic world economic crisis it
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was not such an impetus for the creation of this format of interaction, and based on the will of this quasi-organization, we cannot say that the decisions of the declaration are not legally binding, it is not the security council, that is exactly why i am asking, but they have a certain moral and political power - firstly, they are a reflection of the consensus that has formed at the moment, that is, they reflect what all countries agree on, all the big countries that, in total , account for approximately 80% of the world economy. that is , it is a very significant economic force, and the second they a-a create such i would say the course of economic development and solving global issues political issues problems i.e. summarizing summing up we can say that these decisions and declarations have
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moral and political weight but you can refer to it you can for example in international law there is such a term softland which law, i.e., here we are talking about exactly such a law that can lay certain foundations for other already mandatory documents, legal documents , including international conventions, treaties of the national economy and national i.e. they set the tone, they set the trends of further development, including international law, as well as politics, first of all. is this the reason why they are fighting so desperately for the wording throughout the entire summit , of course, every word has meaning, every term for it is happening well, we are just a mad struggle we understand this, is it a legal fairy tale , or in some way yes, but the question is also in the interpretation in the interpretation, how to interpret correctly, how to interpret correctly, i can
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give an example, and even if we look at the eighth point, where does it begin? war in ukraine. the war in ukraine is more correct. from the point of view of international law and in the context of russia's war against ukraine, it would be absolutely correct. here they chose a compromise term that allows for different interpretations and what was used. by the way, and russia is also misinterpreting but that is why our mfa proposed well n- not seriously probably what what well it is hardly possible to correct or can correct the declaration after it is possible to interpret it just that joke in which there is a bit of a joke but it is very seriously, because in fact the ministry of foreign affairs did it from the point of view of international law of the un charter, as it should not be written, and also taking into account the resolution of the un general assembly regarding the territorial integrity
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of supporting the sovereignty of ukraine, that is, they corrected it from the point of view of international law and it was correct that is, this is the correct interpretation of these provisions in any case, the event itself, that is, as an event, it exists, it exists, it is a reality, the reality is that the leading politicians are coming together 20 as you correctly said, 80% economies of the world and are conducting negotiations. and what is more important for such a summit, in your opinion, is a formal declaration, well, conditionally, a formal declaration is a final one, or is it backstage conversations , negotiations? well, from my experience, i can say that in international organizations, the most important things happen precisely in circles, and the declaration is the text, and what is brought out to the public, these are ready-made solutions, all this is the tip of the iceberg, one can say. that is, it is a reflection of such a very general consensus. but most often
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, for example, bilateral meetings are of great importance therefore, it is not by chance that we mentioned the meeting between the president of the united states and the prime minister of india, and at such bilateral meetings political agreements and decisions are made in principle, so they are no less important than a-a general declaration, for example, and i believe that here we probably do not see the whole the completeness of the entire political picture, but we feel that some important agreements have been reached, and for us, by the way, when we read the text of paragraph eight, one of the most important messages is that countries the g20 consider it inadmissible to seize territory and , in fact, to attempt annexation through the use of force in international relations. this is definitely a curse of this un charter and the entire document and the world
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order in general, that is, there is no violation of logic or any violation of second sense, however, the declaration was the signed declaration was accepted in spite of all this work , and already after the summit, after the event , the leading world leaders gave a press conference , spoke out against pressure, and so on. a few quotes from biden, please. in addition to economic issues, we discussed the harsh and illegal war of russia in ukraine, and there was a significant agreement in the hall that justice and lasting peace are needed, which supports the principles of the un charter and respects the sovereignty of the territorial goal of the territorial integrity of jake sullivan. the security adviser is an important milestone for the netherlands and for the indian leader. here he is confident that the 20 can unite to solve a number of
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urgent issues. the statement already 20 contains a set of consecutive paragraphs about the war in ukraine with from our point of view, it very well defends the principle according to which the state can use force to obtain territory. macron, the joint declaration of which the summit ended is not a diplomatic victory for the russian federation , it is a declaration that once again confirms the isolation of russia . consequences well, the scholz declaration is a success of indian diplomacy, in principle , we have four leading world leaders and four in principle positive reviews, and this is a really positive document, really successful. as i believe that this is a positive and successful document, despite the fact that if we take our expectations, they were not implemented for political reasons, for the reasons that the decision
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is made by consensus, but in the end it is still a very positive document because it shows that the countries the g20 and, in fact, all the countries of the world are dissatisfied with the behavior of russia , they want russia to stop its aggression because this aggression of russia against ukraine is destroying the world order, it is destroying food security, and this security is connected with security and nuclear security in fact, all this already directly affects the interests of all countries of the world, including the global south. that is, it is such a very clear message that russia should stop its aggression against ukraine as soon as possible . if this is a clear message, if it affects the interests of literally all countries, because
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affects the world legal order, why is the wording not tough enough, clear, how to say it correctly in diplomatic language, and through consensus, the need to accept by consensus, but if er, interpret it correctly, er, this paragraph is the eighth in the context of, first, the previous er the resolutions on the ball e-e because there is a reference to this resolution, secondly , it must be interpreted, it also mentions the resolutions of the general assembly, where it is very clearly stated that it is necessary to protect the territorial integrity and support the territorial integrity and sovereignty of ukraine and condemn russian aggression, i.e. in this broader context, it becomes very clear and clear to us that russian aggression and support are condemned, we can see clear support of ukraine for our
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fight against this aggression. well, if there is the fact of collegiality, which is called decision-making, and the fact of consensus, it can be assumed that the first options are much more than in the final, the final one, but there were still options, that is, what options we asked our colleague dmytro nopchenko, now he commented to us, and i will remind you that he is the only one of the ukrainian journalists who found themselves specially went to the summit 20 days later and we can see everything with our own eyes approaches, first of all , there were specific proposals, for example, in the american delegation, they explained that the white the house insisted on the formation of the country, the twenties will defend the principle that states cannot use force to seize sovereign territory, but most of the participants themselves were still focused rather on messages, the europeans, for example, explained to the press on the sidelines that it is important to adhere to basic principles, the inviolability of borders, the non-recognition
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of annexed territories, the need to achieve a fair peace in ukraine, it is not worth comparing words here, because the final declaration is still not approved by the majority of votes here we need the consent of all, and therefore from american officials. we heard that in washington it was important to record a call to preserve the sovereignty and territorial integrity of ukraine. well, this call is exactly in the document . well, as for the participation of ukraine in any format , how would it really help me? who was the president's online speech, or if ukraine could hold some kind of event , the official program of the lawsuit was an option, but in reality there were, however, the last word for india, it is she who forms the agenda, so well, as they say, we have what we have, but this is experience, because in ukraine we still have to work with twenty. oleksandr
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, therefore, from the comment of our colleague, it follows precisely that the final declaration itself was, well, really, probably the best under the conditions under which and i emphasized that if our viewers missed it it's just a majority of votes , it should be all votes, so everyone is there, how many participants must agree, it's not someone against, and someone for someone abstained, is it true? and do you think that this is a pretty good wording at the moment in that context in which all the preparations took place, including the fact that ukraine did not invite india, and i believe that this document can be viewed as a positive step forward on the way to the implementation of president zelenskyi's peace formula, we are already talking about what is possible even at the end of this 2018, it is the peace that will take place, it is about the implementation of president zelenskyi's peace formula , and reading the provisions of this declaration, we see
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that it does not contradict it. it essentially supports president zelenskyi's peace formula, which consists of 10 points, such as nuclear safety, food safety, that is, declarations, yes, that is, in this regard , this is such a positive step forward, it is necessary to develop it and it is necessary to implement it, and still , will the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine continue to insist on your opinion and should it be done instead wording well, in fact, let's let you say it wording as far as i understand , it is not possible to change it, it is a document, it is history and everything is so correct, of course, unfortunately, we cannot influence now, but we have we must prepare for the next round, the next round is the next ones, this is rio, the 24th year, so definitely this is brazil, brazil well, you can't call
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brazil's position absolutely friendly and one that understands ukraine. we remember lula da silva, yes, the president brazil recently elected about how he offered to give ukraine, give crimea and stop the war, well, everything is as simple as zhirynovsky's once, no kingdom of heaven to him, but what to do in the brazilian direction? very effective, he was previously sent to germany, and i think that we need to work, we see that despite the fact that at first he says completely unacceptable things and, one might even say, a little naive from the point of view of even the implementation of international law, but then he changes his position absolutely two days ago, it seems he already said that putin will not necessarily be arrested there, he
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said. more precisely, it will be decided by me. i don't know if it's a brazilian quote. i don't know. so that the russian justice system arrests him. i don't know - said lula, it is decided here, not the government, not the parliament, this is important period . yes, this may indicate that the position of brazil has gone a little, what is it called, but in the direction of ukraine , what do you think? i am sure that things will change. for our diplomacy for the embassy for the ambassador for the ministry of foreign affairs and this is also an important issue for parliamentary diplomacy i.e. and we have to do everything to convince our colleagues in brazil to support where it is not only about ukraine it is about support of international law on world security, brazil should also be interested in this. that is, it is in the interests of the real national interests of brazil to support
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ukraine, because by supporting ukraine, it supports peace and international law and order. and if we have a new ambassador, yes, that is, classic diplomatic direct diplomatic communication there are and uh, if there are channels of communication, so as far as parliamentary diplomacy is concerned, to what extent does this communication exist in our country, do we know something about the brazilian parliament? well, of course we know, but is there in our committee on inter-parliamentary cooperation, there are several ways of maintaining such communication, first of all, there is a friendship group in the verkhovna rada with brazil, that is, there are some contacts, communication takes place within the framework of this friendship group, at the same time, we are trying to allocate more and more attention to the countries of latin america and unfortunately, due to objective circumstances, it was quite difficult, especially in the first
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months of full-scale aggression, but we try we try, for example, when we go to parliamentary delegations and on interparliamentary assemblies, we try to meet with representatives of the countries of the global cock, which is becoming a priority, including our parliamentary diplomacy, and using such meetings, such communications , you know, i always remember the words of president biden, who said that international relations are interpersonal relations, so it is very important to create such lively direct contacts with our colleagues , including representatives of the brazilian parliament, we are trying to do this, president zelenskyi, you are what he was also mentioned by president zelensky in an interview with cnn. it was during the eu summit in kyiv on september 8-9. he said that literally , if lulla da sila does not support us, he will support russia even if he does not want it
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, he said that we have stop stop the war and find a compromise, compromises are possible only with those who are ready for them, have you seen any compromises from putin , zelensky said and all his words are that he mentioned it at all, that's how he answered ferid zahary's question, and none the less that he said it exactly, but he did not directly make it clear that at least ukraine is planning the path to brazil, so at least it is aimed at what is called in a good sense there for next year, what are our chances, well, the chances are great , but a lot depends on us now , er, it depends a lot, including on e of our successes at the front primarily because, you know, it is extremely important for us to constantly demonstrate education and victories that our armed forces are doing, this is a strong argument in
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politics, so we have temporarily stopped doing it. we were told that the counteroffensive has over low pace and too low pace and i'm not in but the most important thing is that we are moving forward step by step meter by meter kilometer by kilometer is watching and they understand that we are the winners, we are winning c-strategically. i completely agree with this thesis that the strategic ones have already won absolutely uh, we may not talk about it often because there is a situation of war and military secrecy and so on, but our armed forces they are doing what they are doing. and please tell me with the advancement of our soldiers literally up to our borders in 1991 to liberate the entire territory of ukraine. is the diplomatic weight and value of ukraine
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as a counterparty growing? is watching this with admiration, you know, you can compare such a biblical story of the struggle of david and goliath, that is, in this case , a small country, but a democratic country , ukraine, not only effectively protects its territory, but it defeats the so-called second army of the world, such a huge monster, a huge bear, the whole world watches it with admiration, people turn to us when we are abroad and they say with admiration that they look at it and what respect it gives them and gives hope for justice and for other countries as well, absolutely, and we will look forward
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to, and we are waiting now for the victory, and we most likely assume that the situation will change by next year, and we believe that for the better ukraine, but about the prospects, in particular, the prospects of the next one, the very participation of ukraine in the next and the next ones, because this is not the end of the 24th year, we asked dmytro onopchenko once again, i will remind you that this is our colleague, who was the only ukrainian journalist who was at the summit in new delhi, and this is what he told us that now, well, at least we need to start working on it. because it is unlikely that brazil, taking into account its views and foreign policy, will be ready to simply send an invitation to ukraine, but if it understands that the summit can become well, for example a platform for negotiations, the tone will change in 2026, and ukraine will definitely be called to washington, and it
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will most likely not be just an invited guest, but a special format, even 20 + 1. the focus is because if the discussion about the war has already started , well, it is impossible to simply move on to the conditional climate or social problems, and therefore the special ukrainian meeting should definitely be broken through as they are not leaving now. more than twenty can approve the principles on which it is possible to negotiate or fight about this. if these principles are not fulfilled. so there are still a lot of important events ahead, to which ukraine will definitely be invited . about brazil, we will work as far as i understand ukrainian diplomacy, and of such important events - this is what else is ahead of us next year, namely, nato in washington
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next year, it will be very important. we will try to get to the brazilian ones next year ourselves, but as you and i have already said, the diplomatic , political and geopolitical significance of ukraine and the value of ukraine, god willing, will grow even next year , when our troops will advance , let them slowly but very faithfully and clearly liberating our territories oleksandr, thank you very much. and this is a complex topic and it is ambiguous around such events. there is always a lot of noise and it is sometimes difficult to single out some main things. of course, i will remind you that today we talked about the g20 in new delhi with oleksandr merezhek, people's deputy, chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on foreign policy and inter-parliamentary cooperation, and
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thank you once again, and i will remind everyone that since mr. oleksandr tezh and i also talked about this the efforts of the armed forces of ukraine who are doing this just now while we are talking here and they are worth much more and in any sense in the sense of diplomacy in the sense of geopolitics and so on your efforts for help to the armed forces of ukraine is also worth more and more, please help the armed forces
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. if you have the opportunity, help right now, you can do it simply with the help of a mobile phone. minsk and rostov-on-don were carefully repaired in a hearty and homely way, as by jesus, the docks of sevastopol, what are the partisans doing here and who is helping to send the ships on a known course for more than a year, our agents collect intelligence information as the air defenses triumphantly burned in yevpatoria cotton chronicles in our material cars for a million how much ukraine promises the russians that they will surrender together with the equipment, well they promised them certain rates for the equipment there in general such and such and we pay them what now with the mi-8 pilot and does his example beckon other russians, will you support him like a mortar like how does
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a special program work i want to live in the material of nina kolomiets hello uman they accept eh очень очень тёплые очень очень хорошо что в город что власт что умычальник new year a holiday for believers and businessmen and a faith that is stronger than war, safe, everyone feels safe, i don't think there is anything to be afraid of here, a report on new year's eve umani by ihor levenko on the 20th in ukraine, the time of the underdogs , the main results of thursday, september 14, on the air , the only main thing for you is working the inter information service in the studio oleksiy fadeev congratulations, let's start with the explosive news of the russian federation salutes there every day, but
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lately cotton is very ironic in yevpatoria, for example, air flights, the triumph of the second army of the world. this is the name of the russian air defense and in sevastopol, the armed forces finally crushed the vessels of minsk and rostov-on-don, which were there for repair, the docks were bright, and in moscow , near the last horse tv tower, and in saratov , just on the lawn, nataliya kosynova will continue , minus a large amphibious ship and a submarine . and also the fire that caused a lot of damage on the night of september 13, ukrainian missiles and drones attacked the ship repair plant in sevastopol, russia. the ministry of defense says that they shot down 7 out of 10 missiles and destroyed three out of three naval drones, but you missiles that managed to break through the air defenses of the invaders burned ships minsk
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and rostov-on-don, according to the russians, two people were killed and 26 were injured. all of them are allegedly employees of the plant. already stated that they were the ones who adjusted the fire on the enemy boats, there they emphasize that they have their agents among the sevastopol workers of the repair plant and servicemen of the black sea fleet russia for more than a year, our agents have been collecting intelligence information that we provide to the defense forces of ukraine. this night, all the citizens of sevastopol witnessed the results of our activities . it was not calm in moscow, and late in the evening on september 13, the residents of the russian capital went to sleep due to loud noises. at first, a fire was noticed near the ostankino tower, and then it became known. that a garbage sorting plant was on fire in the area of the vladykino metro station, meanwhile
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, it caught fire again in the crimea, residents of yevpatoria noticed something at 5:30 a.m., hello, the sun came and then it flew somewhere, bring it to you on the way, the ministry of defense of russia reported the shooting down of 11 drones. however, they did not specify that they lost the triumf air defense complex worth more than a billion dollars . the sbu employees reported the hit target, but so far this is not official information. this morning , five naval drones immediately attacked the russian ship sergey kotub in the russian ministry of defense assures that the ship is not damaged. but the gas pipeline is also on fire in the saratov region
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