[000:00:00;00] of the newly occupied so-called kherson territories, here is a very, very important issue, let's return to it after a short break, an important topic for a few minutes and we will return to the conversation . they are trying to take away the right to be themselves and another instant of a terrible war that has been going on

for centuries, but the whole world has already convinced us of our independence not to be trampled not to be drowned not to be burned not to be shot and the greater our hatred is stronger, our independence is closer, our victory is closer, we prove our independence every day, we are afraid in every way, we cry, we laugh through tears, we shudder at the news here and abroad, in the trenches and in the rear, and with all our might we clench our teeth and move on because we have something that does not extinguish our secret strength - the source of which is in ourselves every day, every second, i am familiar with these feelings we were the director, we were sitting in the basement, women and children were constantly hearing explosions i slept dressed, i had to be ready

to get up and run at any moment, but i said no, this is my life, i will not give it to anyone, i went on live broadcasts, i understood. if i have these powers and will share them with the ukrainians, with the children who were next to me, i played a lot and at the same time started them how to provide first medical aid, helping others, i helped yourself, want to learn how to help yourself and others, go to how are you.com 1+1 is back on the air about ethnically, let 's talk about political captivity, how the russians keep ukrainians in the captured territories under political a-a articles and approached mr. denys talked about the fact that they began

to take political prisoners to crimea from the occupied territory of donbas . in crimea, they already had lists of active people, and in addition, they know that decentralization has taken place, and in active euro communities, these are the heads of communities, they either communicate, do not cooperate, those who do not agree, they were also detained and taken to the territory, since this is the nearest territory where was the prison, in particular, in simferopol, built in season number two, they planned to expand it for their own needs, but it is season number two, now the conditions of detention are very difficult for the residents there, or the crimean police are kept there, including nariman zheliau , which has limited access because of season number two it is very difficult to access both lawyers and relatives, and they are taken out of the newly occupied territories - these are members of the terrorist defense and the ukrainian military , as well as public activists, what is even more

problematic is that they do not provide information they did not take anyone out and this information is collected little by little, there is complete communication with public organizations with lawyers , we are trying to communicate with the public organization, we are exchanging these ladies so that we have some unified lists to at least establish that it is known that crimean political prisoners used to provide help when there was an opportunity, they also through them, lists of names or surnames from which regions were sent, so that later the specified data can be additionally set, this information is also collected by public organizations and there is a normal information bureau at the ministry of reintegration, they are now actively involved in the process of collecting and working on the possibility of exchange. this is the exchange office that communicates with the russian officer of the athlete. so far, there are no real lessons on the exchange. although there are some positive stories about the exchange of children, we have seen that children are being returned

. the process is very difficult. at the same time, it should be noted that yesterday was the fourth anniversary of the great exchange, which took place in september 19 , when ukrainian sailors returned, as well as a number of crimean political prisoners, and as noted head of the president's office, andriy yarmak, that the exchange process with the president's team is not completed, and it will only be completed after the return of the last ukrainian citizen to the territory of ukraine . in addition, at the end of august , the state government of ukraine stated that they also although they are engaged in the exchange of prisoners of war, they are ready to participate and even offer the russian side to exchange collaborators and those who are supporters who support this statement. this is how it will develop. but we see that a lot of tools and work is being done in this direction, but unfortunately the russian side does not respond to any of these proposals at the moment, and it is not that russia

refuses to extradite the crimeans that they are, in her view, already citizens of russia and this is actually and it is because people there were simply forced to get russian passports very often, and not everyone is affected by this, but i know that there, well, many people who have kept a ukrainian passport and received a russian passport must be formulated correctly, they remain citizens of ukraine, only citizens only for russia, such cases as mariupoli, when you know that insulin is issued only with the presence of a russian passport, it is very difficult to blame these people for the fact that they had to get these passports very often just to survive, and of course we believe that it is not their fault and that they are remain our citizens with all the relevant rights , but on the other hand, we know cases when russia gave crimea to crimean residents, we know cases with oleg sentsov gennady

mafanasiev, who unfortunately died recently at the front by mr. kolchenko from the same sentsov group, as well as two crimeans - this is akhtem shitos and the ilmiomers, but there was a separate agreement somehow through turkey, as far as i remember, that is, such cases still exist, it's really possible only under some extraordinary circumstances, when the president of turkey erdugan personally intervened . are there any structures under which it is possible to somehow exchange some of these people , at least those who are seriously ill or need some kind of immediate treatment there, i think we know that miomirov actually died in prison. if he hadn't been exchanged, he probably wouldn't have been alive. but luckily, they were able to do it. what do you think, do they really exist ? erdoğan has to intervene every time. are there any constructs ? that can help in these situations. it should be noted that eight cases are now known before those listed

by volodymyr balukh. he was also involved in the intervention. that ukraine appeals to various international organizations, to various heads of foreign states, offers various constructions of exchange, but even these constructions do not work at the moment, even individual people who are in a difficult situation because of these. it should be noted that even two deaths were recorded at the beginning of the year. these are gafarov and shiring, who died in the prisons themselves due to the lack of medical assistance.

but there are political prisoners and not a small number who need not only medical and surgical intervention , the representation constantly communicates about this representation at all meetings held by international partners with foreign representatives in ukraine, in addition , the crimean platform, which was held in august of this year, in addition to the fact that ukraine declared that in every speech of the foreign side, the return and even the names of political prisoners were mentioned in which they ask for the return of the russian federation or appeal to the russian side to have returned so far, to the regret of the reaction from the russian federation that we must constantly keep this argument in our hands. when we are told that it is possible to give up some of our territory, let it remain under occupation, and instead we will join nato or something else you know, there are those who often make such tempting offers to us, and they say why should people die, and let's leave some part under occupation , the fate of these people seems to me to be

an argument for us freed until the end of their territory, because otherwise there will be no end to this. no land and after crimea and part of the kherson region will have to say goodbye with honor to something and also to a very large number of human destinies who will remain with the broken in this territory without justice and torture and by the way, p. mykhailo, i also wanted to ask you a question, do you probably somehow communicate with your relatives, and these so-called crimean saboteurs ? wait for the de-occupation of crimea and don't go crazy in the conditions they are in and physically endure it because they are not so young, not so strong straight people as you

know. dashed let's say so you give it is also allowed to them and is it communication with someone from relatives or with the mother or with the wife, for example, everything and therefore only in this way with a certain delay can you get some information, this is phone calls, this is sometimes correspondence, sometimes some telephone conversations and so on, but they are isolated, let me remind you that they have in strict regime colonies not just a colony, for example , in the same styblik territory of russia, it is on the territory of russia, let's say dudka and bessaraba , they are on the territory of krasnodar, e.e., in the krasnodar territory, old polish e.e. there are two colonies, but they are in different colonies, and shtiblikov is in omsk, even in the colony in which he served his first term of imprisonment and now the second, and he is kept in a punishment-type room, that is, he is alone there, that is,

he has no communication for how long it's long can keep going on unknown of course that health - this is absolutely not successful there was a whole bunch before that and so on . protected them, they accordingly gave the fsb's signature on non-disclosure, that is, they themselves will put us to the sword if they say something superfluous, that is, we know about the terms that gave the stud a new term there, that is why this communication is periodic. i would like to note that in the context of what and there they said about these exchanges, and in particular about september 7, 2019, and about the exchange of a -a, did he die, these were atypical exchanges, not because there was any good will from the russian side, at whose request

the turkish security service arrested two exiles murderers from the russian special services to turkey, and it is obvious that putin's regime did not benefit from their stay there, and therefore if this exchange took place , that is, an exchange that should not have been so absolutely . we understand that the situation in ukraine changed, and the kremlin tried to be kind, and here are the most media persons who sounded in various mass media , including international ones, they just published so that the topic of political prisoners of the kremlin was forgotten, and it succeeded to a certain extent. although , for example, dudka bessarabo and shtiblikov, they are also on the lists of freedom house and the lists of the european parliament, as political prisoners

of the russians. by the way, the real is prohibited, as is well known. very clearly indicated. by the way, this is very important in order to create a negative image of ukraine and ukrainians in crimea and in russia. that is, these are just the things and indicate that we should not hope for any good will from the russian side , that there are no ombudsmen, they are really trying on our part on the part of the butzman, it is really necessary to act here. somewhere there was a discussion a couple of months ago about the fact that the famous traitor boguslaev, which drug did not work on the russians, the chinese, and on belarus, and that they can exchange him there. so it is necessary to make a very strict demand, because the kremlin needs this person because of many reasons. we need our

people, so there in the president's office they talked about what is possible and the exchange there shows that we also know how to bargain well and you exchanged a lot, i don't want to councils about certain wasted chances that they had in the past, let's say at the signing of the well-known five-year contract between e.e. gazprom and naftogaz, and this also applied to energy needs , so to speak, it could also be used. well but there is also a review because gas and commercial issues are one thing and this is completely different. well, russia knows how to solve all this. well , unfortunately, in my opinion , sufficient political will was not shown on our part. there were also a couple of such there can't be many cases there, you need to use these chances, don't lose them, mr. denis, i want to return to the thesis you said, and i was very interested in it, you say that in crimea

the mood of the population is changing and the number of people who, uh, start, so far, not openly, someone openly to sympathize with ukraine and support ukraine and even do something, it is increasing. and tell me in more detail how this is happening, what is happening, how far are we really at the moment when our military can approach the crimea , they can uh, close to the crossings, they can get the internal support of the local population, what can we expect now, what is there something will happen, open resistance to the occupation authorities, i did not listen to how many hryvnias , but it may increase with the approach of the armed forces, and this is, as they say, both the coordinates of the resistance movement and the representatives of the armed forces as already noted that in addition to the aid to the armed forces and the seizure of cultural space with ukrainian symbols that occurs after a full-scale invasion, and precisely the resistance movements in the newly occupied territories and the already liberated kherson became examples for

the temporarily occupied crimea itself. and they are inspired by the fact that kherson was liberated now these movements are supported and they are not only supported, their number is growing and the number of supporters is growing, now there is also the crimean war seagull and i, who are already active directly and the hacking that they are acting and manifesting demonstrate that these are not just statements or telegram channels, but real people who are behind it, in addition, the fact about the resistance is known - it is the creation of a map and about which one of the ukrainian publications said that it was created with the help of the crimean military objects on the territory of everything occupied separately with the help of residents of crimea, if they live there on this map, it is not that it is static, it is constantly updated, that is, when there are explosions in cotton or something or now in connection with these cotton they conduct a certain environment from warehouses and already less we place compact groups on civilian objects and this information they also enter this map or hand over to the military the military also indicate that when

the armed forces approach people with whom they are in contact they they say that they are already ready to act more radically while they are restrained because they understand that it should not be premature, as for other resistance and dissatisfaction, this is precisely related to the mobilization of a significant number of mobilized on the territory in the temporary crimea, there are a large number of dead people, and these are precisely the residents of rural areas where relatives are there, so far, well, conditionally, we know that the village is not active, but discontent is growing. they just keep silent, don’t contact and don’t spread . the overcrowded hospitals in the occupied crimea have a very strong influence when the crimeans see the number of wounded that the russian military.

is still alive, and the second is in the countryside, on the contrary, they openly conflict with each other. that is, as there were examples, they paint the gates or declare or fight, this is already open and this perception of the place is precisely in the countryside, and it is connected with what is happening with the entire occupied crimea and that is why there will be an approach like in kherson during the liberation by the armed forces of ukraine that we only later found out who this resistance movement was, different people there, strange situations and strange stories in general, who was involved with it , the same will happen in crimea, in addition, regardless of the fact that crimea has been under temporary occupation for more than nine years, the youth themselves are active in this resistance movement, and this is what they declare and do, and looking at the activity of the russian special services, in particular, they are currently working with the directors of schools and educational institutions, a permanent checking the dormitories, searching even ukrainian literature, ukrainian symbols in the dormitories , this is already a sign that there is some resistance and they are trying to attract, in addition, it is known that precisely from september 1, they led such components

, this is the deputy director of the educational school work that is engaged in propaganda itself and this is the first time this year was introduced, in addition to the sixth grade, they have introduced special training - this is medical training with, well , medical and tactical training. and the 10th and 11th grade - this is military training, which they also did not have for a long time and this is already the population, they don't like it since the 14th year, but it is expanding and propaganda is already reaching . that is, there used to be some kind of alternative , it was possible, as they say in the kitchen, now and it is already under threat and the risks are very pleasing that this entire condo is russian propaganda somehow you know such things from the worst soviet times, which you can only imagine, but they still did not penetrate the hearts of the crimean youth, who do not really believe in it, feel this falsehood and not very much, and actually do not believe in the prospects of all this soviet mothballs that they are trying to put into their heads.

young people quite a lot in this regard, it seems to me that they made the forecast very correctly . well, we have two minutes left. i would like to hear your opinion on the strategy of actions of ukraine and mr. denisa and mykhailo. please express your vision of how we should act in the near future in order to well, turn your attention to this problem and the number of prisoners before extracting them, how to decide who else in the world can be involved, have we already involved everyone, do we have a strategy , how can we influence and improve this situation , at least release someone well, let's kick now to celebrate there is no need to stop here and communicate and combine different variations, and this will one day still have its effect, and from the public sector as well as from the state as representative offices, we constantly try to offer different variations both at the level

of our state and at the level of international partners. they will still give results one day. and the main thing is not what he says. we note this topic not to forget for no other reason than that the de-occupation of crimea after its physical liberation will take place, after all, will be completed after the return of the last political prisoner from the territory of the russian federation so here we really need a synergy of efforts of both state bodies and civil society to a certain extent . it takes place, and international efforts are also important, and i will return to what i said about what needs to be reformatted, this is what here is how russia asked what these cases are. we consider there , let's say, we exchange close prisoners, but civilian hostages are completely different . and they are citizens of russia. if we are talking about crimeans, that is, for us, regardless of that , military civilians are crimeans, they are citizens of ukraine, all citizens of ukraine all have the same rights responsibilities, and therefore there should not be this segregation, that is, we must

intercept this initiative. and in such cases , as in medvedchuk, let's say , there were some before the black sea grain agreement, or before the gas contract. we must to reformat this game and dictate its conditions as a prerequisite for everything else to be considered. thank you for a very interesting conversation, an important conversation, and let's hope that the media coverage and discussion of these topics on the air will still have a positive effect on raising this topic, ukrainians will return we were returning home thank you very much thank you

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long as you keep it all inside you as long as you hate as long as you love the charter brigade, join the battles in the east, the entire 72nd brigade of russians was eliminated in crimea, the occupiers are recovering after several ukrainian special operations at once, and in kyiv, an odious people's deputy is being tried on charges of treason on the 569th day of the war in ukraine, on the air of the united marathon is working the team of channel 1+1 and today in the final issue of tsn we will tell in particular about such front-line success and premature statements about the capture of populated areas, whether the informational noise interfered with the success

of military operations and what is happening now on the eastern front, the direct inclusion of tsn correspondents from the front lines, the cotton season in crimea, the citizens of our russia were scared and did not go to krym. and how are they crowding russian tourists from the peninsula, and thanks to which the occupation troops will become the next refugees ? children's voices in the hague separated me from us in the filtration camp the testimonies of small ukrainians will help put putin behind bars and free tens of thousands of their peers from russian captivity, the armed forces of ukraine have taken control of andriyivka and are making progress nearby ticks in donetsk region this is reported by our general headquarters, the village of andriivka in the direction of bakhmut was completely destroyed, not a single surviving house remained there, the territory was heavily mined , the population was small, only 77 people lived there before the invasion , all of them left before the occupation, the third separate

assault brigade added during the fighting, it was completely destroyed the russian 72nd brigade, in particular , liquidated the chief of brigade intelligence of three combatants and almost the entire infantry of the brigade along with a significant amount of equipment, and that is where tsn correspondent andrii tsaplienko is located now he is in direct contact with us, ah, andriy, congratulations, we are waiting for the details of this operation from you, congratulations, despite the fact that here in the bakhmut direction, the weather is very bad, as you can see, it is raining, but the news is just fantastically good, we have released andriivka the general staff officially announced this, in fact, you already told all the main news about the capture of andriyivka, on which

the third separate assault brigade was working. also stated about the er taking of the neighboring tick in the south of bakhmut. and although later, literally now, this unit took back its words , apologizing for the premature news, i must say that well, according to my sources, we have serious successes in the tick we simply pushed the enemy to the edge of the village in some places and beyond the edge in some places. well, returning to andriivka, i want to say that the third assault brigade actually covered three command and observation points of three russian battalions of the 72nd amphibious brigade there according to my information, all three commanders of the russian units that were in klishivka, they are sorry, they

died in andriyivka well, as for the neighboring klishvka , again, according to the information of the lut brigade of the united assault brigade of the national police, the people with which we were working today, and er, since the beginning of the operation, several hundreds of russians have died, and we are probably talking about er, the number of dead russians , killed russians is somewhere up to 2,000 er people, people are difficult people, it is difficult to call them people, but i that's in klichivka. it's just, well, it's just terrible there. they don't take their bodies. the bodies are lying in the open air on the streets. now the russian press and russian sources say that after the capture of andriyivka. well, i believe that taking klichivka. russian troops should