[000:00:19;00] in ukraine, 17:00 on time, you are on the espresso tv channel in the studio, iryna koval welcomes all viewers, three people died during the unloading of grain in chernihiv , an accident occurred at one of the enterprises there , a metal silo cone collapsed, as a result of which 100 tons of grain spilled out, three workers were buried under the rubble. it was reported the state emergency service is currently investigating the circumstances of the incident in the kherson region, a tractor driver ran into a russian mine as a result of the detonation of ammunition, a 45-year-old

man died from injuries sustained on the road another man was taken to the hospital with moderate injuries, the head of the regional military administration, oleksandr prokudin, said the military could not yet confirm full control over klichchivka , active assault operations are underway there , the press service of the lut brigade said about it, because the brigade's flag can be seen in the photo distributed in the president's office the military advised to wait for the official statements of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine. earlier, the kalinovsky regiment published a video, as if from a freed tick, but later the video was deleted and they apologized for a hasty decision in the direction of bakhmut, the enemy concentrated 52,000 soldiers, and in total on the eastern front, almost 150,000, the head of the press service of the eastern group of troops, ilya, stated that there are also 274 tanks, more than a thousand armored vehicles, as well as 150

artillery systems and a little more than 120 jet systems volley fire but despite such a concentration of troops and weapons, the ukrainians are gradually moving forward, 12 air targets were destroyed last day by our defenders of the sky at night, the russians attacked ukraine with missiles and the occupiers launched 10 cruise missiles with drones the occupiers eliminated six and shot down six uavs everyone informed the air force command they blessed and sent to the troops in odesa region they detained 18 evaders it turned out that they were residents of the kharkiv dnipropetrovsk kyiv kirovohrad and odesa regions they planned to illegally travel abroad in grain trucks for the travelers had to pay the carrier up to $5,000 from each of the travelers, they invited a priest and then

sent them to the military commissariat to register you are needed here in ukraine . here in order to win this war. i call on you so that everyone has a conscience in order to protect our state, ukraine, save us , lord, help, lord, and bless us, lord , more than a year has passed since the liberation of kharkiv region from the muscovites, the invaders left behind a scorched earth schools and lyceums were mercilessly bombed and children continue to study, albeit online. how do schoolchildren live in the occupied villages ? let's see next september for children - this is usually a happy or not so good start to school, but now because of the russian

a full-scale invasion , not all ukrainian children sat down at their desks . this village of verbivka in kharkiv oblast is exactly in september. they threw rockets at the neighboring village at night with helicopters. on the sidelines, that is. well , practically, we are with the children. say now they are walking around the village, they didn't walk like that, the woman remembers how the shops and atms did not work, and the russians felt at home in the ukrainian village, they settled in the fields, in the city council, at the school, they set up their positions here. and when the time came to flee under the onslaught of the armed forces, so to speak farewell, they bombed the educational institution, they didn't have the graduation in kindergarten , which they were waiting for, they didn't have the first of september, which they were also waiting for, now even the smallest children are forced to study remotely

, but no one will go to school in their native language, and in the neighboring vlach ravine suffered great destruction. our school, the teacher's house, is a two-story building where the teachers lived, and your church was damaged, well, private houses were damaged, there were shrapnel on the windows, in the yard, there were damage to the car , benefactors decided to encourage young schoolchildren in the de-occupied chatter, the recruitment of vlachs yar yakovenkove american volunteers brought gifts. these are 150 shoulder bags with stationery, hygiene products, candy , toys and other useful things for students of the first and fourth grades, as well as hygiene products and blankets for their parents, all of this was brought to the hub in chicago by ordinary americans , and already the backpacks were collected by girl scouts from several states, these are very necessary things because

winter is coming, we do not know what will happen in the winter, as with the electricity supply with the supply of gas, blankets and a flashlight will always be useful , many communities of kharkiv region had to temporarily stop even distance learning because there was no internet and no communication in general. and in some settlements , the russian measure left no surviving schools and will allocate more than 20 dollars for the air defense assistant of ukraine. canada's minister of defense bill blair announced this, so the arms procurement will be handled by an international fund headed by great britain. the army conducted military exercises with the involvement of tanks, helicopters and ground forces, the purpose

of the autumn fire exercise is to demonstrate the interoperability of cooperation on the battlefield, the army informed the polish training was held on the eve of the annual military exhibition, where the latest polish military equipment will be presented, including abrams tanks and k2 himers launchers, a total of about 71 pieces of equipment in brazil , a charter plane with tourists crashed in brazil, 14 people were killed, including crew members , according to the cnn news agency, according to preliminary data, the passengers were heading at the place for fishing during the landing of the plane, it was raining heavily in the civil defense of brazil. it is assumed that bad weather could have caused the accident.

north korean dictator kim jong-un was sent home. he ended his visit to russia. actually, he limited himself to one vladivostok . in his honor, a farewell banquet was held in his honor. before that, kim jong-un visited an exhibition of military weapons, a local university and a ballet, and finally, the dictator was taken to a dolphinarium to see walruses . - the educational program has ended, it was the first foreign visit of the north korean leader in the last four years, the supply of shells from north korea will not significantly affect russia, it is unlikely to have this is of great importance. such a statement was made by the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff of the russian federation, general mark milley, who arrived at the nato meeting. according to him, the final meeting with putin will probably force the dprk to provide moscow with 152-caliber projectiles, but it is not yet known

how many and how quickly the crazy strike is curious. the incident happened at the championship of saudi arabia, the best football player of our time, cristiano ronaldo, took a dangerous free kick into the frame of the goal , the portuguese missed the shot, but hit it directly in the head of the television operator of the channel behind the gate , the man was nice about the sausage and a huge crowd popped up on his forehead

, despite that, the man admitted that he was not offended by ronaldo, that was all the news at that time. watch us on youtube. welcome to the espresso channel. what does the word replicator mean? in my opinion, it's something about the reproduction of a repetition of an already existing one. also, this is the name of a new pentagon program announced by the us deputy secretary of defense ketley giggs. now this program is being actively discussed by american military industrialists and congressmen, the goal of the deployment of small drones in large numbers and in the shortest possible time in the american army , marines, navy, and air force is given here is one quote from the speech of the deputy secretary of defense of the united states on this topic in ukraine we saw what inexpensive affordable systems can do not to mention their commercial technology they can help determined defenders stop a larger

aggressor from achieving their goals allow have fewer people in the line of fire and can be produced, deployed and modernized with the speed of simple maintenance necessary for the army . so, the united states decided that the key element of american defense in the near future will be a significant number of autonomous systems in various domains on the ground, in the water, in the air, in space, but this a certain emergency program, because the replicator is clearly focused on countering china, because as it was stated, the main advantage of china is mass , that is, more ships, more missiles, more people, so it was recognized that the best answer is to bet on innovation, and the most correct form of innovation is actually drones, which, together with means

of communication intelligence or strike capabilities, provide this counterbalance to china in the near future , and against this background, i had a desire to discuss this the initiative of the united states and its extrapolation to the needs and capabilities of ukraine, because the army of our enemy the russian federation has a mass advantage over our armed forces, so what are our prerequisites efforts to start a kind of own replicator and how to scale what has already been done and became an impetus for the pentagon, we will talk about this in our military program with our ukrainian experts who have strong expertise and experience in this area. my name is serhiy zhorits, i am the director of an information consulting company of the defect express company, which together with the espresso channel strives to cover the most relevant trends in the field of security and defense, and now we

are joined by denys long-tailed - he is a member of the supervisory board of the ukrainian start-up fund and the head of the unicorn nest company, mr. deniso. i congratulate you. i am glad to see and hear the broadcast of the espresso channel and i am once again amazed at your beautiful plow on which you will answer our questions . what exactly is the purpose of the american replicator program and i would like to hear your evaluations of that, how adaptable is the approach for the ukrainian side , or can we also follow this path , relying on our capabilities, well, first of all we are already almost going this way, this way, but well, look, i could grow, these are startups for the last almost 20 years. i have been working and from the point of view of what we now have in our

arsenal, it is not such high-tech, high-tech. even if we look at the kamikaze drones that ours use and the hydroponics, well, this is almost a low-track in drones. well, there is nothing there that would be, well, quite modern, but here it is, as in any startup, as they say in our industry better yet, innovation is business model innovation, and now we have an approach which uh, i use asymmetry, yes, that is, we have to use the cheapest tools that can cause great damage. well, uh, when we look at the test. how much does even the most expensive drone cost and uh, what kind of equipment can it destroy

? well, for example our naval drones against ships that cost millions and tens of millions of dollars there, yes, here we can buy and produce a large number of trays of equipment, but to cause very great damage to the enemy is, firstly, secondly , such a methodology -e justify what if this technique can be used by any er any person on the front yes well conditionally you can learn to control the espifihydron very quickly yes these are skills that need to be mastered but this one we are now talking about days and weeks versus er months and years if we are talking about, for example, f16, then we will use pilots

whom we have trained for several years and now we will train them for several months, but we have instru- well, not in us, but in any army that has started to use more modern ones the technique has the possibility to accept it very quickly at first and secondly, it has almost no countermeasures from the adversaries. yes , they have fish and other protection, but on a massive scale - this is not enough to implement. well, we can use it in conditions of technological limitations of our adversary, and they have the opportunity to purchase these drones and to produce them and even a rocket but in very limited uh quantities and in our country, when we do not have economic and technological blockades and we have the help of our partners, we can produce it well, that is, this is an asymmetric approach

and it is already working with it works. yes, that is, if a drone at a price of $400 can destroy a tank at a price of several million, and that of tens of millions . -m was not used and now they are firstly used and secondly they are used massively and this makes it possible to study their tactics and strategy of use and based on this our partners and we can build in new methods of fighting and even if military wars are somehow so absolutely true because in fact it is our practice that tested

the hypothesis of the mass use of drones and was just the impetus for this replicator program that the us deputy secretary of defense spoke about, and now based on your experience as a person who has been involved in startups of various purposes for a long time now closer to military topics, what are the main problems now from the point of view of the promotion and development of military startups, are foreign business angels ready to invest in our military projects is one component of the question, and the second question is how to ensure the scaling of those solutions that, well, are considered breakthrough or effective, what are the main problems that exist in these two ets. well, let me start with the second one. there will be a long answer, what i see is that i don't have a solution now , first of all, secondly, i don't have to influence it, thirdly, i

don't see all the pictures together, yes. that is, these are my thoughts , which are exclusively mine. with which i see that our resources are enough restrictions but large uh scattered among a large number of projects that produce something yes we have projects well i met with more than 200 uh not companies but groups of people organizations or companies that produce anything that flies yes there somewhere close up to 300, more than 200, but no, not 300, but an approach to 300. so there is a different amount of solutions and uh, money that is from state volunteers and in commercial institutions, including investors, is scattered over a large number of projects uh, and this is a problem because

if we had an unlimited market well for example, there are startups in china, of which there are literally millions , and they are fighting for a large amount of money and so on, but in our country, the ministry of defense is one. we have several powerful donors who, well, there are funds heard about plants, you know. so even now we have a problem that ah, i would now choose several solutions that have shown themselves very well on the battlefield, and i would finance their powerful scaling. what i see now, i see now, that's enough er, the attraction of funding by projects that have just started on a-and they will start er-e the road which way several dozens of startups have already passed and achieved something. so, it seems to me that

now there is no balance and no, let’s say a lack of synchronization. and the lack of a strategy for what, how do we produce it is the main problem, on the one hand, on the other hand, i would not now i would risk building a large enterprise for the production of drones of any military equipment. there were risks that this one would fly something. and if they were to be built in protected areas. air defense very works well if there will be a motivation to attack more densely with rockets or er scooters with these yes that will be a security risk and if they are built separately then it will be impossible to protect them but we have a problem with scaling, we already have products that

have shown themselves very well and uh, i know several companies, several teams that are now trying to build production in poland or the czech republic or the baltic countries so that they would be there in conditional danger and be able to supply already produced equipment to the front. the answer to the first question is actually very unpleasant and i am very pessimistic here now because most of the investors i talk to say that the absolute majority and probably 100% of startups in our country working for the war will end when the war ends and this is a problem for them, because the only customer now, well, we have a conditional one, the ministry of defense. well, okay, not

the ministry of defense, but the needs of our military, yes, they are financed by the ministry of defense, volunteer funds and other organizations , but when the war ends, these orders will disappear even if we invest now, this is what investors tell me. if we invest in such companies, we will lose money, that's why they want to finance companies that have prospects on global markets. and what would it be like to have promising global companies in the markets, in addition to engineers and production, they need two things. the first is compliance with international military standards . yes, and this is very commercial production . well, for example, we calculated for one startup that spent

half a million dollars on the development regime, what to do to them what they are doing, but in accordance with international military standards, they need to invest another 2 million dollars, and they hesitated for a long time and decided that they would spend these 2 million dollars on the production of what they already have, so that it is right now destroying the muscovites, and not improving there this is the first problem that we are not ready to invest money, time and effort to meet these standards ; secondly, if the company is focused on global markets, then the team should have people who have experience working on these markets, that is, investors want to see, in addition to products that will meet international standards, that there was a person who won or took part in tenders in any country and understood how the kitchen works, because our people are very optimistic

, even those who have experience in global to the global it business, but to sell drones to malaysia, for example, is much more difficult than selling it solutions, even those of a complex company like ibm, for example , and we have no experience of working in international markets, we have no experience of working of experience products that can be sold to the ministry of defense of other countries, and now it is starting to affect our internal financing, because our people are ready to invest 1 2 3 million in military startups, they have questions. and what is next for these

money, you won't do something really revolutionary. and the next round of financing cannot be involved because the two conditions i just mentioned are not fulfilled, and this is some kind of trap for us . until well, we are working on it. yes, we now have several interested parties. former top players employees of military companies of large companies well, you know that silicon valley grew up, including from military projects, and there is an office and raysion and honeywell and other companies that come from the valley and draw talents from the same place where they draw them google and and and apple here, but er, former officials of these companies are already looking closely at ukrainian projects in order to go there as a-a from everyone to a consultant who will help them do something what will be able to be sold on global

markets, we already have the first and second e-e examples of cooperation of small companies that produce non-drones and separately, for example, solutions for drones with companies that produce drones so that it is possible to attract these technologies, these developments for use in already existing large products that are supplied to various ministries of defense well, to sum up, what we concluded for ourselves the majority of those i spoke with create projects for solving such applied problems for a short period of time , what needs to be solved now, and the number of innovative solutions that are present in these developments is actually minimal and the number these real know-hows are not enough for our foreign partners there . do business english people look at this market as a large-scale market and they selectively choose those

companies where they can really see something, some kind of grain, then grow it and accompany it. i want to comment because if you say a small amount, yes, then the startup market is also a small amount, we have a fail raid of 99.7%. i.e. 997 companies out of every thousand go bankrupt and now what i see is a raid in our military much better than in general in the industry, because our engineers and developers have access to the front and they can test their solution literally the next week after they invented it there , and this, this, these rapid iterations, that development , testing, refinement, yes, this is something that is not currently available in the world, and we have a separate

solution, well, for example, when you build a drone, a new drone can't do anything, well, you can't invent anything, because it 's a very old technology, but if you develop something, for example, a vision computer for existing drones, then you have very big advantages regarding, for example, american companies in which the cycle of iterations takes weeks, not weeks, and months or years , and ours can be tested very quickly, that is, if such projects move very slowly in our country, there is really very little innovation, then in the elements and in small teams that decide a - and small submissions but very difficult ones that have not been solved now. here there is, uh, now there is such a broth that is boiling and from which i see a very large number of very interesting examples

, and could you give certain examples because it in particular, there are forests, a company where your friend anton skrypnyk is, which creates things there, and robotic platforms and others that are now aiming, including at the foreign market , these directions are promising robotics , things like that, well, that’s all, well, look, everything has prospects in us too now there is such an interesting situation that in some yes in some industries there are questions . and we are a ukrainian manufacturer. and we have only just started. what else is there, but it may have some shortcomings. but uh, if we compare it with our global competitors there we are already used at the front yes, we do not test them on the training ground, we use them at the front. they have combat operation and they have feedback from