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draw conclusions yourself dear friends we are back to work and as we promised, now we will talk with natalia pipova , people's deputy of ukraine , secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on education, science and innovation. with the lawsuit filed against you by arestovych and why did arestovych turn on you, well, let's start with the fact that the story began in june 22nd , when rostovac criticized public activists, without naming the last name of the so-called adviser to the president of ukraine, he was not at that time, she told me that this country is precisely the public activists , volunteers and volunteers who save one maidan and the other maidan, and victory in the war in our country will be ensured precisely by public activists

, volunteers and volunteers, and it is these people who are bringing the victory closer, yes. at the time when you were growing up, i allowed myself to express that social activists are spoiling everything. and it is good that they have not been allowed into ukrainian sex yet, because there would be no ukrainian sex. that is in history it started then. of course, he remembered me, it was the verkhovna rada jumpers, and when a year later, the story continued with a guy who stubbornly did not want to stop singing in the language of the occupier, even though in lviv, from the lviv region, it has been prohibited since 2018 , accordingly, then he came to the defense of people who want to sing in russian on the streets of ukraine and, accordingly, he has now submitted a statement to the dbr deber did not open criminal proceedings because it did not see a reason. and this is a procedural decision to the infamous pechersk court, which is purely procedural

i opened it today, i have already seen the court ruling, even my last name does not appear there, but simply to oblige the dbr to open criminal proceedings and, as it were, to consider the case, so we will see. i think you still have news. well , news from this side is waiting because not even one the people's deputy was offended by the remark about the ukrainian language . someone can try to open the door to the official for proceedings in the court. he can oblige to open the door to the official because of shouting in the country when there are many, unfortunately, corruption scandals and corruption scandals. he has to deal with them first of all. arestovych is trying to make pr for his companies and in this way to extend his political life for people who still have nostalgia for the scoop and unfortunately this guy is also not alive to the days in

the soviet union, he probably has a certain nostalgia as a result of the environment in which he lives, you know mrs. natalya, the issue of nostalgia is not really an issue of this generation, which i am in power at the moment, because we understand that these people, if they have this nostalgia, you can't have it until the end, i don't know take out because they were born with it. they will surely go to the grave with it. well, if they don't believe that not everything was so bad in the soviet union and that it was a totalitarian country that took millions of lives, including ukrainians, and it still doesn't mean anything to them or there that there was absolutely no freedom of speech and dictatorship, well, it didn't matter, nothing was that bad . well, you won't do anything about the question of what their children will be like, and especially what their children will be like in science, and this question of textbooks and school education is extremely important, and you more than once they said the same thing and emphasized it on our airwaves. i look at what is happening, for example, in the occupied territories, but today they just said that , for example, in the occupied luhansk region , a newly appointed professor, er, krizienko, is already writing textbooks there about what

turns out to be 300- for 400 years, there was a kind of prototype of someone in the luhansk nation who always pushed hard to become part of the great russian people, well, that is , they write their own mythology there. i don't know how it works. well, they always do it like this for centuries somehow it works, after all, there are some muscovites and they have their own empire and a lot of weapons about ukrainians , do we write textbooks today, those people who understand what ukraine is, how do i understand what was the soviet union, what is russia and so on and so it is similar because there is not always such an impression, because if we don’t do it now, then when do we do it, if we write it again now, i see that there is a sixth grader, if we can show, hmm, a page from this textbook, so the children will

work according to the updated school program and there appeared lines of songs by max barskyi and artemiya or artem pivovarova who sang ukrainian after february 24 , 2022 let there be spring until we stand to the end and war does not break us our faith unites hearts ukraine lives forever ukraine is our land this is barskyi and pivovarov is a yellow-blue heart and cries and laughs a yellow-blue heart never gives up in every new event there is my hope well, you are so encouraging i don't know it's just a school program she's like that and it's possible everything is the child of such a serious i'll read it all my life, it often happens, let's be honest, if there's something that you can't hear from every refrigerator or from every iron that's turned on, because it's all the same in the ether, it's only half a cup. that means there won't be enough time for something else, for something really important. well i wonder who writes those textbooks, you can see those people , throw a rotten egg at them. well, who are they? something

happened to us with a connection in a not the most interesting place. well, let's try to restore the connection, mrs. nataliya, maybe someone was eavesdropping the conversation can be resumed somewhere on the side arestovych appeared and said something like that i want children in the sixth grade to study barsky and these because i don't understand your little ones ukraine literally died if we walk like this and why did serdyuchka get offended why don't you teach her the word well, anya, teaching textbooks is actually an art, we generally need to rethink the history of teaching, in particular , because we teach it with the attachment of applications and facts , and not understanding why what why, well, if when a person orients himself, what has happened over the centuries well, it doesn't matter if he remembers the liberation war of 1648-1654 under the leadership

of bohdan khmelnytsky or if i remember that it was somewhere in the 1950s. it is important to remember the essence of mazepa's act and why it was his peter could not bear it for so long. how powerful a person did you have to be to reach the level of mazepa, well, that is what we definitely lack, and when we talk about textbooks on the history of ukraine, of course, children are drawn to what they hear, they often look more quickly night tick-tock than textbook and filling out the textbook as it is taught. this story is very important if we are talking about those clichés that were children in soviet times. only a very small percentage of children are included in that, and finding this balance, in fact , well, this is an art, is the teachers who manage it, but in the majority no, because a lot of people are interested in history, but now they are not interested in it, that's why

they understand the value more and more and work with it, but it requires wishing for the best. the anniversary of the occupation of lviv by the troops of the red army in 1939, september 19. yes, i don't know how it is written in the textbooks . it was interesting to see if this is an important event, how it is presented, to explain the context of what happened, because we talked about it with no- no- the current head of the institute of national remembrance with a shotgun, as he did last week, for example, he believes that the molotov-ribbentrop pact is not very important and it definitely should not be a cornerstone for the current identity there, although in the baltic countries it is considered an extremely important moment, because in fact

this is the end of their statehood for a longer period and the beginning of the occupation. for us, this is a completely passing date, on which the children obviously cannot even remember it . at best, it will be just a small paragraph of dry statistics of some kind, most likely, that is, if we are talking about meanings, then we should place accents, then it is definitely you have to work with them and often there are textbooks that combine already some videos and when you can go to watch there are wonderful youtube channels such as a story without myths or watch timothy snyder who wants to also well, this is already a little for high school students to improve their english and understand that is, these are these things and if there was a desire, and how the teacher explains it. and the fact that the textbooks need to be changed and filled, this is exactly in the ministry, there is an institute for the modernization of the content of education, which is responsible for them, and

we have been fighting for many years to change the procedure, who writes the textbooks, who plays, who gives the examination, and, well, it requires wishing for better. of course, a talented teacher can change everything, but it can also be excellent when there is a basis, a textbook, a state standard program , but the teacher speaks russian, and now it’s just a small advertisement of the same kind. it's just that he and andriy were the screenwriters of such a documentary historical series for 10 episodes, 10 days of independence, actually it was released six months before the full-scale invasion and about the hundred-year struggle of ukraine and for those 100 years how ukrainians gained independence well, but then because of the fact that there were events that unfolded not only in ukraine but also unfolded around ukraine, because it is all interconnected ukrainian history with the history of other countries , ukrainians lost this independence to show the gravity and actually in this series we tried to show the cause and effect and not just to explain the context of why what was happening, what was happening in the world had an

impact on ukraine or what was happening in ukraine had an impact on other countries and how it everything is interconnected. so 10 days of independence. anyone who wants can also watch it on youtube. children who are preparing for admission are finishing school in order to understand about interesting so that exactly , well, it's simple for me. it seems to me that since this is such an important matter, some textbooks. i don't know. i wanted i wish that there was some kind of commission, that it would be understandable and transparent, that i don't know that it would be headed by some hrytsak, and that not only him, that there would be people of different opinions, different views even on history, but at the same time that they would be one hundred percent 100% i i don't know, i don't i am afraid of this word so that they are one hundred percent ukrainians, ukrainians not by nationality , but ukrainians in the sense that they understand exactly what ukrainians are, who ukrainians are, why they are not different from non- ukrainians, but they say they are from any other nations, why is our history ukrainian, what is

our ukrainian the interest has always been throughout the history of this existence if there are no such people but there are some people who come here who think that there is something like arestovych with some strange neo-slavic ideas if there are some people who think that the soviet ally is still bad. there are people who simply rewrite some old narratives, only slightly adapting to the new situation . well, there will be yes, ladies and i. well, the problem is that theirs. well , only a few people know who fills it. textbooks are published in other countries of the world, yes, and our problem is that, due to the legacy of the soviet union, our reputation does not work, the name in the judicial corps, which is often among experts and people who determine, and this is what we have to change

first that should work er this is er if also, how valuable is it to you that your reputation remains with your reputation and just buy and sell because now, according to my observations, these commissions are often filled with people who were beneficial to certain a-a people in the institute for the modernization of the content of education and real experts, and they always went between them discussion and dispute whether or not to issue a recommendation for this textbook and there are very different approaches. i read the textbooks for one of them and raised the topic of the history of ukraine as if a professional historian knows, but there is such a complicated language , it is literally the eighth or ninth grade for me with a higher education, with the fact that i read laws, it was constantly difficult to read what to say about children if there is a complex sentence and a complex subjunctive sentence, not one for a whole paragraph, yes, while tiktok offers everything in a few seconds, and there is also a joke here. well, in e-

how is the author able to describe it both in terms and in form, because this is important, and this is exactly what we need to grow. the committee, i must tell you in support, spoke four times this summer. content of education and considered each stage, each step and gave their recommendations on what needs to be changed, including the fact that even a large-scale invasion of textbooks never had until september 1, which means that there is definitely something wrong with the algorithm, which means that it needs to be changed, so we, well, the ministry has the will, so i hope that it will be possible and we will m natalya, it's not difficult, the neighboring committee , the committee on freedom of speech but i think that you also have an opinion on this matter, the deputy zyly nek said that this week shufrych will be dismissed from

the post of chairman of the committee on freedom of speech we have 572 days of full-scale invasion, mp shufrych represented the well-known odious political force and for more than a year and a half did not interfere with anyone until the government, er, suddenly noticed that he is the head of the committee on freedom of speech, this is some kind of insult and mockery of freedom of speech in ukraine at the time of the full-scale , that is, now everyone was talking about it, in fact , no one was talking about it, so, there was not enough power of the movement of votes, and only now, that is, this is a very interesting story, in fact, why shufrych i took it just now, eh, all the information is still unknown to whom shufrich's assets will be transferred, these are also very big questions, eh, why is it related now , or is the rating even falling and we need to pull out some new story, eh, let's see how it will develop, but what he hasn't had for a long time to lead, i will add simply that they have come now, the ideal boy for washing, conditionally speaking, for

the authorities, it is finally called so many times , but but that is the question and the same for the leader . of course , it was a quota of the opposition. but when it did not become a party, the opposition. then, of course, it was supposed to lead. already from that time, another person, for some reason, for example, the quota in the osce shufrych, is now represented by me, and instead of natalya royal iryna gerashchenko. because it was a quota of the opposition and when the parties ceased to exist, now it is not a contradiction to fly to the russian delegation with his own plane and he lives with her, and i represent and convince the mountaineers that what you say about ukraine and ukrainian schools is not true. come with me, i will show you that and you are opening the first school in hungary, and it should have been the same way shufrych was removed a long time ago and this quota was transferred to the real opposition and not to the party that simply included the name of the opposition

platform in its name, therefore and by shufrych, of course, it is very important who will lead it next, but i must say that he is really from the committee for freedom of speech, because it is one from the possible steps of democracy, in fact, the work was not visible, well, if shufrych acted quietly, and even those other deputies who were there , well, in general, the work of this committee was not very noticeable, except when there was the kipiani case , the stus case, the book of vakhtang kipiani there was by the way, the only time i was also at their committee where they gave an assessment and i must say that then shufrich was of course presiding , but the votes were well, they were divided about supporting or not supporting that book and about recommendations. it was very difficult to watch exactly that's why i'm from another committee. but i came here to defend the book, that's why there are questions to the authorities . why haven't shufrych been removed yet? there are a lot of things, but for sure we have to see who will fill this quota next and how this committee

will work and how it will contribute to freedom. words in ukraine in such a difficult time literally when they do not remain in your opinion who should lead the representative of which faction in particular will it be again some kolpzzheshnik former definitely not a latecomer it should be someone from those parties that are in the opposition i think that this there should be a person from the journalistic environment who has really proved the standard of journalism with his name more than once , if i am now or is understood in these processes, that is why he is with the opposition and should be elected. and we have three opposition parties thank you, madam, for the conversation. nataliya pipet, people's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on education , science and innovation, was in touch with us here . the audience is reacting and saying, for example, if you personally don't like pivovarov's songs , then that's a matter of your taste. it is impossible to deny his contribution, support of the armed forces, respect to this performer, dear friends, for example, marichka burmaka, a person who sings

ukrainian and pro-ukrainian songs since the 90s, and even before the 90s, and about whom else the government at that time was so communist said that it was a threat, it was contributing to the armed forces, why exactly pyvovarov? why did he end up there ? they are contributing to the armed forces, and in my opinion everyone should do it now, but this does not mean that it should be studied on the pages of textbooks. this is not the right criteria some artistic value, for example, the text, and so, dear friends , he contributes to our donations, stay with us , we still have an interesting conversation with dmytro pletchuk, so be stress-free, you want to wake up rested and full of strength, but the old mattress constantly hurts the whole body and on the sofa, how can you not turn around, you can’t find a comfortable position, you need to improve your sleeping place, meet the new product from

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