[000:00:00;00] good evening. we are from ukraine. glory to ukraine. this is a program. my name is serhiy rudenko. i congratulate everyone and i wish everyone good health. today in the program of the armed forces of ukraine, andriivka and klichchivka bakhmutna were released . the successes of the ukrainian military on the front line and the price at which they are given are warnings of revenge. the head of intelligence promised russia tough answers if the ukrainian energy industry will be bombarded the road to the eu and nato on which part of the road is ukraine now

a struggle or an imitation or will they sit behind bars for a long time shufrych and kolomoiskyi about this and about we will talk more in the next hour with our three guests today we will have paramedics yehor firsov who is on the eastern front, veteran of the russian-ukrainian war yevgeny dyky and people's deputy of ukraine mykola knyazhytsky before starting our conversation, watch the video of how the armed forces of ukraine freed

klishchivka in donetsk region, come on, come on, come on , they freed the settlement of klishchivka in the donetsk region from the russian invaders, but the enemy does not stop trying to capture, everyone is working possible means of fire damage, but we are becoming strong, firm and confident, because this is our land . glory to the armed forces of ukraine glory to ukraine glory to ukraine heroes glory to ukraine glory to ukraine heroes glory to those friends who are watching us now on youtube i suggest you take part in the survey today we are you we are asking about this, who will stop putin's aggression , options for the answer nato, the united states of america, the armed forces or your option

, please write in the comments under this video, i want to present today's our first the guest is yehor firsov, a defense fighter, a paramedic, sir, i am glad to welcome you to our broadcast. i wish you good health. i wish you all good health. i am also glad to see and feel you. thank you. let's start with part of the interview of our supreme commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi in an interview with news. he said that ukraine will not stop the counteroffensive because of the weather and intends to break through the russian defense. let's listen to mr. zelenskyi if we stop as it was last year after the successes on

in the kharkiv direction, the weather is bad, the partners have started and i think they are relaxing and handing over weapons to us in the expectation that the weather will be better in the spring and everything will be normal there is time to prepare, collect shells , etc. on the destruction of ukraine and on the depletion of our forces , the depletion of the unity of partners, take a pause you can't do this, the weather can give you pauses, but not everyone can have drone attacks, there can be another operation, in no case do not do no frozen conflicts, do not pause as long as it is possible to de-occupy our territory and go forward, even if

this day is not a kilometer, not 10, but 100 m, it must be done mr. igor we are already on the air please tell us what the situation is now on the part of the front where you are where are you because quite a lot of information is coming from the eastern front and from the direction of bakhmut andriyivka klishchevka i understand that there will be news and according to the kurdyums what is happening there klishchevka is the bakhmut district it is not far from us and we are also becoming obimutsk area, but the situation in our country is a little different and even in our country it is a little easier. because our positions are in the 14th year of enemy assaults and there is less to say, the war is quite positional. now you can see how the guys are biting out right there by 100 by 200. it is difficult to pass minefields on 300 m of land.

dense, on one square meter there can be several types of mines, from two there to tima, six, that 's normal. well, it's very difficult to give and pass , especially for stormtroopers, now our artillerymen are actively doing counterbattery work, they have modern systems acoustic ones, which by acoustics actually calculate the enemy battery and make an effective impression on it, so the statistics regarding the destroyed batteries in our country are even very high plus, well, what do we do, the best means for smoking traffic jams out of the trenches are the corresponding drones, i’m already telling you that i’m not the one involved in the leading commanders

of the best brigades will tell you this process, that is, now even the artillery . imagine that the artillery does not even give such an effective way to smoke out the orks from the trenches that sometimes purely fpv drones fly in exactly in the trenches or, well, the fucking 200s, or simply the orcs cannot withstand such a load and run away because the advantage of the drone is that you can fly right into the eye, right through the entire hole, right through this entrance , of course, no, not even hail. it gives such an application to the fact that drones are in beer, well, in general, drones are becoming more and more effective every day , and the enemy is also using them now, moreover , on the battlefield, the drone itself, that is, you are not afraid of that, i mean

, relatively speaking, a military soldier is not afraid uh you are not afraid of a mortar, even hail, for you it is, well, reasonable means of impression. but with a drone, of course , the future can catch up with drones in general, and even now , the present, er, it shows itself very, very effectively, i understand that, sir and mountains that we are now witnessing a combination of several ways of waging war of the first world war when people smoke out the enemy from the trenches and the second is a new war, the war of drones - this is even the current war, well, it is definitely the war of the future, because how do you correctly noted what is no other, no other weapon allows you to hit the positions of the occupiers with such precision, well, in this case, the occupiers are the russian

occupiers , do you have enough drones on the front right now? in ukraine , they themselves set up the production of these drones, and to what extent do you think the efforts of the state and the efforts of state management bodies help to create this entire infrastructure, because we know that the russians are now creating several factories in and together with the iranians, they are trying to create these facilities there, our engineers are much stronger than the iranians, it is absolutely obvious , only the question is how much this is a mass type of weapons production, i will tell you yes, you are absolutely right that the war is and was similar to the times of the first and second world wars, you know

when i first found myself in a replica under fire and i actually found myself in some kind of film about the first or second world war and never thought i thought that there are times when you sit in the dugouts under constant fire in these times have ended and only films remain. and no, they are not over, they are also happening in this war, but on the other hand, look at what modern history is and you said about the accuracy of the hymares, it also hits well, but there is one nuance , the hymersk is much, much more expensive , even its projectile is hundreds thousands of dollars a hai a hai-mard himself millions millions and a small one in beer as you show now on the screen, it costs from $ 400 and is capable of destroying an enemy tank , an enemy battery, any enemy dugout and

so on, that is, it is cheap and that it is possible get here at our engineers there in a nearby place, this of course gives a super advantage in terms of whether they are enough well, of course, at any military you ask if there are enough weapons, everyone will tell you that there is not enough, if compared to there a year ago , it is of course heaven and earth weapons the ammunition has become a lot more. but is it enough for our quick victory that we directly destroy the enemy with a drone, that’s the question for now, that’s the question for now, that is, each unit of uavs of attack now has a certain number of drones, plus, the guys always drones are being put aside, and suddenly tanks will come, and suddenly there will be some hard times and we will have to, and we will have nothing to fight with, and you are putting away a dozen or so drones so that they will lie idle, eh. that’s how i would like

to work so that i don’t have to think about it, so that to constantly charge bats over make an impression on the enemy and plan operations taking into account the fact that you have a super sufficient number of drones and in fact there is such a story that it is possible, we constantly think from poverty that there are not enough drones, we invent something and so on, but this maybe because our engineers are dozens, maybe there are even a hundred companies in ukraine that produce these drones, and of course this story should be scaled to the maximum , such companies should be exempted from taxation, state loans should be provided , and almost interest-free state grants should be provided so that this industry rushed so that we do not produce 15,000 drones as now

. and 15,000 drones were produced per month, and 15,000 drones were produced per day, so that it would be hundreds of thousands of drones per month, i believe and i constantly communicate with guys from the best brigades, we are fully convinced that the enemy can be defeated precisely with drones, and that precisely drones and precisely our ukrainian production can be the turning point in the war so that we get a faster victory . foreign mass media that tried to somehow characterize or give some kind of verdict on the counteroffensive that began at the beginning of the summer say that it was supposed to be in the spring

but did not begin, it began in the summer ukrainian the party says that give us more weapons, we will be more effective, give us more opportunities, we will break through the defense of the russians in the south and in the east, at the same time, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff of the united states of america, mark milley, said that the counteroffensive of the ukrainian army did not fail, they mean ukrainian troops did not fail, i know that there are some comments that this offensive somehow failed, it did not fail. he said this in an interview with cnn. milli noted that the counteroffensive is advancing more slowly than it was expected, but he consistently emphasized to miley, well, it is clear that the counteroffensive is always more resources, including human ones, and every life is worth its weight in gold in ukraine , every life of every military man, and constantly repeating and how the counteroffensive is not going that way, for some reason this whole story with kharkiv it is not repeated zelensky made it clear

why it is not repeated because the russians have already prepared and prepared for all this now considering the situation that is developing in the direction of bakhmut and to what extent are the russians pulled away from the southern flank, because the main blow of the ukrainian military is now going in the direction of zaporozhye in order to break through and cut the supply routes of land weapons along the land corridor with russia to the occupied regions of ukraine. do you feel this the course of this counteroffensive as civilian people talk about it as we think because you are at the front you see much more than we do sitting here in the studio what can i say about the counteroffensive and you

know these statements it is probably good to sit somewhere there it is possible across the ocean, it is possible in general just to a neighboring country with calm conditions, just understanding some general features of war, military standards and so on, to think about how the counteroffensive is moving, that it is not moving so fast , believe me, i am a military man who is now right on the front line, and i do not fully understand how our attack aircraft do this. i am more than an attack aircraft . i am more of an infantryman who is currently involved in uavs. it is simply impossible, believe me. these are the things that make impossible things . kilometers and kilometers and you carry everything on yourself, starting with your harmo and e-e machine guns, ammunition, and it is on you

with a hail of fire and you are still clearing positions, well, without any dominance in the air, without planes, without the right number or a bull in the artillery, well, believe me, these are impossible things and what's more, the counteroffensive is advancing constantly. yes, maybe not so fast somewhere. it's 100 m, and somewhere this one. excuse me. 5 and 15 km, as in the southern direction, so i can only say that i take my hat off to us. anyway they are doing the impossible, they are advancing, and believe me, this message is very different among all units, starting with infantry, territorial defense, ending with special forces, alpha and everything else , our successes are really inspiring, so i can’t say

that i am satisfied or dissatisfied there. i am already healing from that that he goes in such conditions that he is real that we do not stop that our military does not lay down their weapons and do not refuse to go on these offensives that he goes through it is very, very cool and it just showed that what we need now an increase in weapons so that this counteroffensive moves faster, starting with just ammunition and ending with an even faster transfer of aircraft to us, e.e., the commander of the ground forces of the armed forces of ukraine reports that as a result of the successful actions of the armed forces of ukraine, the enemy's defense line under bakhmut was breached, that's what we're already talking about said broken and completely incapacitated, one of the largest prepared and best units of the enemy 72-83 and the 31st brigade of the russian federation, how do you assess the enemy

standing in front of you there across the front line because in these 1.5 years, you have seen, hmm, a different composition of those fighters who went out, especially since you have a relationship with the drones, and through the drones, you have definitely seen them much more than anyone , especially those who are now in the direction of bakhmut different from those who were there a year ago oh, i will say something probably unpopular, and the next day there will be a net hanging there, and the very next day these positions will be tired into the ground branches that will prevent us from flying over on the drone, they are already equipped with cannons er fish and here which will be to jam our effective drones, the enemy learns very quickly, you won’t see any tank columns there that were there in the first days of the war. on the contrary, the enemy is even further

away. and further, the tank drags the equipment, as a rule, so that we don’t get, if we are talking about the infantry , the offensive. if before, they went there are companies about uh, now there are small groups of 6-8 orcs that advance, these ordinary groups are very, very many for assaults. but of course their tactics and strategy have changed very significantly, and what's more , i know because they communicate with our gur with our intelligence, the orcs, for example, are analyzing what they saw on video, that is, a quadcopter is always hanging over their assaults. it shows a stream 24 hours a day for seven every second. they receive this data and after that they analyze the recordings of these videos , so the underestimation of the enemy is very, very bad they prepare, they draw conclusions about

mistakes and and this understanding of ours should push us that we should take this into account and do to be even better because if we underestimate the enemy, then it is possible, well, woe to ourselves call and if we correctly assess his condition now, then well, this is one of the components of our victory, we are right, we have to change the state of things that are happening at the front . thank you, mr. gore, for the inclusion. on the air of the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us on youtube, we are conducting a survey. today we are asking you about who will stop putin's aggression, options for

of answers nato united states of america armed forces and your option please write in the comments, please don't forget to click on the favorite in order for this video to be promoted in the youtube trends further we are in touch evgeny diky veteran of the russian-ukrainian war former platoon commander of the battalion aidar p evgeny, i am glad to see you on our broadcast. good evening. glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes. let's start our conversation with the statement of the secretary general of nato from toltenberg, because he said that the next war of russia against ukraine will not end in the near future. sometimes it is necessary to prepare for a long struggle. i may change what stoltenberg said and ask you. is it possible for nato countries to speed up the end of the victorious end of the russian-ukrainian war ? the fact is that

our people are actually acting in that war. and their nato iron are two components without each of which there can be no talk of any victory and if where to take people is exclusively our problem, then iron unfortunately, we are currently completely dependent on the allies, fans, and exactly how dosed they are providing us with this iron, which has already greatly affected the course of this war and, uh, has already prolonged this war very much, and to a large extent, it is precisely how further deliveries will take place that depends very much on how soon this war will end . the fact is that uh in fact, the west has so far given us weapons not for victory at all, even the goal of most of our allies was not set that way, and that includes the only ally who really has a sufficient number

of weapons and other resources for us, that is the only ally this is the united states of america, because the europeans really do have a real lack of resources, this is unfortunately an objective reality, so all the time , the question was always to stop putin, and they stopped putin, and then, in fact , such a dosage began, which came out of, and still comes out of, misunderstanding in general, the motivations and logic of the russians' behavior were given to us all the time little by little with the fact that, well, maybe finally this portion of weapons will be enough for the russians to understand that they will not win anyway, as it would be in russian arrogance and sit down at the table of really substantive negotiations about the withdrawal of troops there and so on, and the russians do not think so, the russians have the option, mr. or disappeared . until there is a complete defeat of their

contingent, they will not talk about any peace negotiations. we are talking about peace talks, specifically about the withdrawal of troops , the restoration of our territorial integrity , etc., so all the time, the west adds one weapon, then another, drop by drop, all the while hoping that the next toporation will finally happen it is enough for putin to come to his senses and start negotiating, and it seems only now that the truth is gradually maturing in the west and the understanding that it is obvious to us that this will not be the case, that any negotiations will only take place after the military victory, which is absolutely insignificant and cannot be sold somehow how is there some kind of compromise and so on, first the defeat of the occupying army, then any negotiations are possible. it seems that this

is starting to reach our partners little by little and can greatly affect our supply in the future, i.e. maybe to finally defeat the point of view which, by the way, is always defended by the western military, but which many western politicians oppose , yes, this military point is very simple, let's finally give the ukrainians everything they ask for, and if they say that in this case the war will end quickly, then let's give them this a chance, and we will ask later, well, by the way , i got the impression that from the last statement of the former vice president of the united states of america, mike pence, that they are also preparing for war with russia, because he did not rule out that the troops nato he may have said that he will have to face the russian army. if putin's regime succeeds in ukraine, then eventually he will invade the territory of one of the nato countries

. that if the ukrainian military does not stop and repel er. rather, er, they do not stop the russian invasion, then soon the russian army will cross the border where our men and women in military uniform will have to go and fight under the nato charter, and i sincerely believe in this er be it estonia, latvia, lithuania or poland, at the same time it became known that in the 24th year, nato wants to conduct the largest training since the cold war, and it has already been announced that more than 40,000 people from more than 20 countries of nato partners will take part in the training on the territory of germany, poland and the baltic countries, whether or not, at the moment, do nato countries allow a war with the russian federation at all, or do they still allow a war with the russian federation, but by the hands of ukrainians with the weapons

of nato member countries, what do you mean by or do they allow war or do they allow the possibility that russia will attack them do you mean that they will intervene in our entire war and so and so no, well, about the intervention in our war well, it seems to me that it was already obvious after half a year, but the ukrainians are very infantile nation we very much like to pass off our childish wishes as reality but it seems to me that in a year and a half even the most infantiles have had enough to heal nato will not enter this war oh dot fat dot and there is nothing to discuss here as for the response to russian aggression, that's the way it is for now. after this big war started in our country, nato took seriously the possibility that russian aggression against one of the members of the alliance is really possible, and they are ready for this, they are ready to apply the fifth article a

to what extent do each of them psychologically, or rather politically , do not use the military. and how many of them psychologically believe in this? the baltics believe , the poles believe, but as for the british , i think they believe, but as for the westerners europeans, well, i think they are allowed as a theory for now, but i am not yet ready to accept the internal ones. well, but thanks to us, they have time to prepare . i am the head of the gur, kirill budanov. what budanov said to the zekon publication, let's go through the points. it is interesting to hear your opinion, what do you think about what general budanov said? so, it is possible that ukraine has already mobilized a limited number of its reserve troops, but now russia appears to be in sight and has engaged not strong enough reserves, which it did not

plan to deploy until the end of october, contrary to the fact that the russian federation declares that it does not