[000:00:00;00] from monday to friday at 8:00 p.m. repeat at 12:10 p.m. the world during the war is on the air again with me oleksandr khara expert on foreign and security policy of the center for defense strategies diplomat let's continue our conversation mr. oleksandr i will only say two words to those who watch please answer your youtube. continue to answer the question that we asked you, and it sounds like this. in the west, they began to talk more often about negotiations with russia, ukraine, because the west is tired , exhausted, wants peace with russia, your option is yours. option, write in the comments mr. oleksandr about russia and we will continue about these negotiations, because recently, at least last week, both putin and lavrov, uh, talked about the fact that we are not against negotiations and never

talked about it, although we are well aware of how much times putin spoke about the fact that we will not sit down at the negotiating table until all the tasks set before the so-called ji special military operations are fulfilled, and here putin speaks, lavrov speaks the same way as putin spoke about the fact that we are ready for these of negotiations with ukraine if ukraine because ukraine itself is refusing these negotiations look at these statements from russia and what can they testify to the fact that putin really feels huge problems and he needs these negotiations, no, i don’t think it’s a continuation of the same one demology, smokescreens, curtains, or there are disguises , as they like to do , that is, there is clearly nothing in this, because it is very simple that peace can begin in ukraine. this is the usual stop by russia in this aggression and when

the invaders take our territory or for example, if it were understood that they would like negotiations, understanding that ukraine is wavering and ready to swallow the loss of territory and the limitation of its own sovereignty , and then they could play such a role, you know very often aggressors talk about peace because they want their victim to simply not resist and that's why this is the case, and they give principles and arguments to different masks and others, which means either a-a let's say yes , let's say yes with a quilter. and he is supported by biden for some of his own political considerations, or is zelenskyi not actually a subject and you are not such a negotiator, that is why it is all a fluke

. now he has to go to the far east to meet with him in a short way in order to ask that soviet model for ammunition . they have time to spare, that is, after all, it is not a democratic state who can remove putin from this position. moreover, crimea was cut by nazism in this let's say that the support of this war by the vast majority of russians, if they did not want to say something different in the west or did not take russian e that's why he feels quite normal and i think he can get over it, but for this he needs more help, even from such uh, to shoot around the hair there and take these shells, so i don't think it's awareness

, especially this person who doesn't use the internet there, which is completely secret in papakki , receives information about the worldview of such people, e who are the heads of russian foreign development, there or other special services, it is completely clear , that is, the theory from the conditions e, this means, e-e, we are winning, and in ukraine , mercenaries are fighting, and so on, that is, of course, in he has a distorted picture of the world, and within this distorted picture of the world, he sees that there are problems, but it seems to him that he has the resources to hold on for a while, and then the west will either falter or develop or return to some other conflict more for him in general, mr. oleksandr, when answering this question, you said that russian liberals , in your opinion, are russian liberals because i, personally, when i talk about them , they are called so- called liberals. politicians are liberals, if they are good, i want to hear from you. i can

name only one surname, it is a couple . of course, he has a chance to come to power in the russian federation, in principle, i am not talking about the kremlin, they are equal to minus there some 100% yes, that is, this is a person who remained a person and f-ti- in that assessment of the situation that is, it is not very different from what we say, and of course i am not talking about a massive storm because well, you see now a new wave of indignation against putin not by a genocidal war. and the fact that russians are not given the opportunity to enter the territory of neighboring european states by car. that is , they are also compared to putinism, some even began to compare it with the holocaust . imagine the arrogance of russians the passport of the aggressor country means that they are being blamed. european countries that help us defend ourselves from the ginesad war are being blamed. they are being compared to the nazis

. of course, this is beyond the limits of some decency and morality. but that's how there are such liberals as they are in the russian federation. they have no chance of coming to power. they, in contrast to their historical times, clearly did not recruit and political forces are not part of history, because in russia you can come to power either by accident or by being ready to enter in blood like the bolsheviks, not all liberals have especially some kind of program. and they have no support, that is, they gave a few, and not far from the people. as the classes said, and of course they are not ready to go, let's say , take this power with weapons in their hands, except , of course, those who are fighting on behalf of ukraine in the mrdk and other divisions, you are here, i understand people who understand how it is possible to restore peace and order in russia and come to power , others well, they are asking quietly, they hope that the victory of ukraine is not an open possibility well, but where to get the number of russian

residents here, as they call it, because they are very correct by the way they say and chose also they call residents not citizens because there is really no awareness of the subjectivity of these people where are those residents who will vote for navalnoy some other i just don't see it and that's why of course i agree with you eyes in quotes should be 99 % brothers, but there are individual cases where it is possible to command respect, it is clear , oleksandr well, let's now move on to the main event of the week ahead of us, the main world event of the general assembly of the united nations in new york the main thing starts tomorrow there is a week of high-level meetings, it lasts until the 26th, president volodymyr zelenskyi is going there

, he already has a meeting scheduled for wednesday with joe biden for thursday. zelensky's visit to the united states at the un general assembly as a special diplomatic operation how important is it for us mr. oleksandr well, i think these are extremely important visits there i divided the following four goals and we they already talked about several of them, of course, if we are talking about biden, this is to show that we have the same level of relations, and to enlist the support of biden, it is possible to eventually receive a positive signal about operational-tactical missiles and maybe about the f16 , but let's hope well, that's the second thing - it's communication with cameramen and in order to convince them that it is necessary to vote with the help of ukraine. i don't think that there will be any increase in this assistance, but at least at the level as requested administration and of course that this is an appeal to the american citizens that this war is also important for the americans and it is in their interests

well, the last priority is of course trying to convince the so-called global south to support our peace formula and at least start putting pressure on the russian federation, we have seen that this is the final communiqué of the group of 20. it was uh, well, not as we wanted, because it was by and large toothless, of course there were references to sovereignty, territorial integrity, about the fact that now is not the era of war - it is here is the phrase of prime minister modi. but it is a pity that the assessment of the armed aggression of the russian federation as such was absent, unlike the previous ballistic declaration . therefore, of course, zelensky will try to use his charisma with some er, let's say so , to sway the countries of africa to his side with additional arguments. well, i think that the further it goes , the greater the understanding will be in these countries that russia plays an extremely negative role there in that region, that is, it supports a

violent change of power, it is destabilizing factor, on the other hand, it cannot bring anything to african countries because it has scarce resources to help all countries, if we even talk about the same grain, then what they promised at the same time russia africa , but it was orders of magnitude lower than africans could afford to buy from russia and ukraine together. in other words, all handouts do not solve their problems and they are not needed. and that is exactly why it will be an important moment for the president to say that russia is driving a structural factor, the sooner this war ends, the better for the whole world and the war can end finally no no no pause when we achieve a just lasting peace based on the statute norms and principles of international law mr. oleksandr well, don't you think that it will be particularly difficult to convince the global south it is very difficult a-a especially

considering some the statements that were heard last week from ukraine, particularly mr. podolyak, towards india or china. well, speaking as he obviously had all the other uh countries, he understood all the other countries of the global cock. well, it will be it's almost impossible to convince him that, to be honest, he did not exaggerate the role of e-e p throughout the world history of diplomacy. he would surely have remembered such and such a proverb that a diplomat thinks three times before saying anything , and that's when i understood when a person says with such generalizations it's either stupidity or manipulation i understand that even a diplomat can use such words in order to achieve a certain effect . well, i don't see what kind of positive effect you could achieve.

but on the other hand, the question is different that the global south is such a clumsy name for a large number of countries that have different interests. well, for example, the same chinese did not visit a group of 20. on the territory and india of those countries . i'm already talking about others. but we can try to appeal to those interests and those. let's say yes, even the illusions that they consider to be reality. well, roughly speaking, our war with the russian federation is of a neo-colonial character, that is, russia accepts us as a territory and not a separate state. and you know, unfortunately, the russian narratives that

they are fighting here in ukraine with the american empire, they sit down very well on e let’s say this, does not reinforce these conditions of certain politicians, experts of the global cock , because they substitute for their time the western powers were colonial powers and they are colonies, but africa and the soviet union was the power that helped free it from this, although this can of course be argued here, by and large , the atlantic declaration means that it was signed between the united states and great britain it seems to me that this was the most important impetus for the british empire to begin to fall apart, and that means the disappearance of these colonies, including those in that part of the world. well, the most important thing is that we just have to change and adjust our key messages to those countries that, for some reason, are either accused

or somehow more supportive of the russian federation, of course i understand that some countries depend on the russian federation from them , for example, the same wagners and such military support, but mostly those countries to which they are wary are becoming their neighbors , we saw how after the recent mutiny the african union had already prepared for military action in order to prevent this contagion from spreading to other states, so it seems to me that the choice of messages is important for us, it is separate, we have limited resources, of course, and financial and, uh, that means organizational. we are trying, let’s say, to involve our western partners here, and we hope that it will work on the contrary, because these are former imperial states, or before the west, in general, there are some problems there, plus the west neglected the interests of africans for a long time and

they say, well, it is completely legitimate, well , now you want us to suffer something there , impose some kind of sanctions or put pressure on the russian federation, and where were you when we had problems, you are with us ignored, that is, there are a large number of problems, but they are like that, let’s say they can be collected in several baskets. well, they are definitely not a global such a rooster basket. that is , they can be worked with and these problems can be solved . we need it as soon as possible to get everything necessary to defeat russia, but we will not get anywhere after that and we have to live in this globalized world where the so-called global south is gaining momentum and the economic and demographic center is located there and we will have to look for new markets, new friends, and so on, so of course this work needs to be done. well, not only with

our company's occupation of the liberated territory in the 24th year, that's clear, mr. oleksandr . well, and one more thing, john kirby said about that. the coordinator of strategic communications of the security council of the white house said that joe biden, the president of the united states of america , intends to propose to the general assembly of the organization of united nations to reform the un security council, it is meant to make it more inclusive and for this, add five or six new members, among these five or six new members, there will be germany , india, brazil. how much do you think? it seems to me personally that this may just be some pre-election a- and biden's company, when he proposes this, that he is like that, but it's not a viable proposal at all, as far as i'm concerned. well, you know, kirby said when he was asked about specific ideas. he said that we want to start a discussion about this.

well, by and large. there is probably a discussion about their reformation and that is correct. but here i think. yes, of course there is an element of propaganda, and there is another ideological point, because if we are not talking about the professional system, and the one that developed after two terrible wars on the territory of the global wars on the territory of europe , then these between uh-uh let's say that international relations are regulated by international organizations by multilateral diplomacy, this is the heart by and large of these liberal approaches or idealistic approaches and therefore i understand why he wants to say that there is a platform where you can solve problems, at least discuss about it, and of course that this is a very positive thing, that the negotiations will give us a new impetus , the expansion of the un security council

, at least. also japan, and korea and china will immediately join there. against this, i think that there will be certain nuances and so on regarding germany. that is , it is a difficult process, but if it is not discussed , if you do not try to do something, then it is possible to destroy this organization, we complain that it is ineffective and it is not effective. although i have a controversial thesis such as this, i repeat it quite often, that in fact the un works as it was conceived at the time in 1945, that is, if there were always five countries that could to block any decision so that one power and others, and then there were two blocs , in fact, so computeristic and communist. changed, and we wanted to be able to stop the aggression or punish the aggressor, that is, there are none. well, you know, 140

countries voted for the fact that russia illegally annexed crimea , supported territorial goals, about the same number for aggression and about the same number for the management and settlement of this war on the basis of -e principles, principles and norms and international law, that is, there is such support, but how it is implemented is already a separate issue, and these constructs, e.e., after the second world war, post-war, they do not work, therefore of course the discussion is very good and i hope that it will be continued not only after the elections in november next year. well, as you say, this discussion can continue for a long time, i mean about the reform of the united nations, mr. oleksandr, i thank you very much for your participation today's program for your thoughts for your comments oleksandr kare, an expert on foreign and security policy of the center for defense strategies, a diplomat, was my guest today and an expert answered

the questions i presented, yes, at that time, what all i have left for today is to sum up the results of the vote . 43% think that your option for peace with russia is so tired. exhausted 7% wants us to disperse 35%. your option is 14% , i will read your options after i leave the air, i did not have time during an interesting conversation to look and read, so i will look how much 1042 people are watching you right now. thank you all very much. this is only on a special channel for the world at war program. thanks also to those who watch on the general espressov channel on youtube. and to everyone who watches the state where we were not shut down or the government

today i have to finish everything due to lack of time, but i will already start preparing for next week, because we meet next monday at the usual time, there will be new guests , there will be new topics, but it will be interesting, as always , my name is yuri fizer, see you soon miss the new champions league season on megogo support shakhtar vs porto and watch the super match bayern-manchester united on september 19th and 20th at 22:00 exclusively on megogo there are discounts on voltaren forte and voltaren emulgel 20% in pharmacies traveler bam and save about to no matter what the ukrainians thought about, no matter what they talked about, the first place

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fighters need drones to conduct reconnaissance and destroy the enemy, we take infantry on the approach . the city of kherson, the boy disappeared in november last year, and no one knows where he is now. i really hope that thanks to your care , maxim will be found. look at the photo and remember his face. if suddenly someone has seen the boy or knows something about his possible whereabouts, do not delay and dial the short number of the makhnolia child tracing service from any mobile operator 116,000 calls are free if suddenly we have the opportunity call write to the chat bot of the child tracing service in telegram and more i would like to ask for a few minutes of your attention. i would like to remind you that we are continuing the search for five-year-old yaroslav maigur, who disappeared in september of last year in the territory of the then -occupied kharkiv region. i know that at the beginning

of this year, yaroslav's grandfather managed to find out that the boy was still alive and even sent us a video communication with a grandson and how the handsome boy recognized me recognized me яск как твое дела хороший the boy was apparently taken to russia and from there he only once got in touch with his grandfather who lives in the kharkiv region and is now doing everything possible to find and return the husband of his grandson last met his grandson even before the war, because the boy lived with his parents in kharkiv in the first days of the pavlo scale invasion, the situation there was quite uneasy and the family immediately decided to evacuate, there was no opportunity to go , the kupyan district of kharkiv region was occupied

almost from the beginning so, for about seven months of the war, mr. serhii could not contact his family in any way, but he believed that everything was fine with them , he was small, absolutely nothing, then he learned that they had approved a cooper body. it seems that it happened even under the occupation, they can there blew up and i can't get over my gray hair, i'll remind you that the liberation of kharkiv oblast was in last year, the soldiers of the ukrainian armed forces quickly entered kupyansk, but the kupyansk node remained under occupation for some time and it was there that mr. serhiy's family was located. it is known that the situation in the village was very tense and at some point there they organized an evacuation column for civilians, the family of the magyars took the opportunity and tried to leave, but on the road between the kupyan junction and the village of kyrylivka , civilian cars were fired upon, and as i tried to

squeeze the convoy, two daughters were already on their way it turned out that there was an alleged colony, the daughter of mr. serhiy died together with her husband, but five-year-old yaroslav survived, survived and baptized a boy who was also traveling in this convoy , it was he who saved the child and allegedly managed to get to luhansk together with yaroslav. spent some time in the hospital and then went to russia unknown to the belgorodsk region, how he was burned in luhansk , to the hospital godfather, and the mother of the son-in-law, and how is yaroslav , well, mine is there with them in the russian region , now they brought the luhansk ones, i don't know, i think it's it happened, they don’t want to communicate, they don’t go out, i don’t know what’s going on there at all , and today i can’t do anything to get vernychenka back, so that i know , last time they were visits to the city oblast, is it really in p. serhiy

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mechanisms to punish the criminal by stopkraj.ua greetings news vitaly espresso with you in the studio works kateryna shirokopoyas another terror of ukrainian cities was staged by the russians this night, in particular they attacked lviv with shahedes as a result of an attack on an industrial warehouse, a fire broke out, a 26-year-old guy was found under the rubble, he was hospitalized with an open fracture of a limb. this was reported by the mayor of the city, andriy sadovy, now everyone is working on site emergency services also heard an explosion in kryvyi rih and khmelnytskyi region , the local authorities reported this on the eve of