[000:00:00;00] no, this is the verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko. i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. today in the program , abrams is already on his way. what else will ukraine receive? summary of the rammstein contact group. drone attack on lviv russian terrorists destroyed warehouses with humanitarian aid nagorno-karabakh are victims of the resumption of hostilities can the conflict in the caucasus speed up ukraine's victory over russia let's talk about this and other things to speak for the next hour, our guests will be special forces major of the armed forces of ukraine ihor lapin and political expert oleksandr musienko, before we start our conversation, let's watch a video

of the consequences of today's night drone attack in lviv under the rubble, unfortunately, the body of a dead man who worked in a warehouse was found as a result of an attack on the warehouse destroyed about 300 tons of humanitarian aid, it

burned to the ground, let's see. at night it was about 105 on the 25th and at five o'clock it was very much past 26 and then so very it was quite a difficult night today in lviv and you can see in the video the consequences of

drone strikes on the city of levan and today the aggravation of the situation in nagorno-karabakh, both sides accuse each other of trying to keep in mind armenia and azerbaijan accuse each other of tension. let's see what

's happening there now. for those who are watching us live on youtube, we invite you to take part in our survey today. today we ask you about yes, will the united nations exclude russia from the un security council, yes, no, your option, please write in the comments under this video. our first guest is a major of the armed forces of ukraine, a special officer , a people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation , igor lapin. to see on our broadcast glory to ukraine glory to the heroes, glory to the panamajor, let's start today with the meeting of the un general assembly, because the whole world is gathering in new york, uh, zelensky is supposed to speak there

, joseph biden has already spoken and talked about that the world community should not weaken the resistance to russian aggression against ukraine, let's hear what joseph byte said, russia believes that the world will get tired and allow it to treat ukraine with impunity and brutality, but i ask you this: what if we abandon the basic principles of the un charter in order to pacify the aggressor, can any country will feel confident that it is protected if we allow the dismemberment of ukraine will the independence of any country be safe the answer is no we must confront this undisguised aggression today to deter other potential aggressors tomorrow, that is why the united states of america, together with our allies and partners around the world , will continue to support the brave people

of ukraine who defend their sovereignty and territorial integrity and their freedom, mr. major, joseph biden says the right words, obviously a lot of aid has already been allocated to the ukrainian state, but yours, and the un general assembly should not start its whole such a big conversation about what is happening in the world by stating the fact that the united nations does not fulfill its functions and the security system that existed until february 24 , 2022 no longer exists in the world. well, let's talk about the organization of the united nations. it is not only a structure that provides a platform for the representation of the countries of the world, but it is also a consumer of colossal resources and has enough such important opportunities and with great sacrifices, a few

words league of nations died well, the situation around the organization to unite suggests that this structure has ceased to be effective, the last appeals of the secretary of the same guterres about the fact that russia should be put there, let their huts be raised there and so on for the sake of the grain corridor blah blah blah further on in the text they say that it is a great pity to wash democratic values, many in this structure have rotted and replaced them with the concept of sinatra, it is the price that has to be meaning in the monetary equivalent , this is how it looks according to the conditions that cannot work at all, because anyone from the permanent members can block any decision, especially if this member is not an aggressor country, i heard biden's proposals what well, as the media wrote, this is what he will propose

to expand the number of members of the permanent representatives of the insurance companies. i think that this step will be followed by a change in the rules regarding the purchase of decisions. but nevertheless, if in this way it is possible to remove the possibility of influencing geopolitical processes thanks to the security council, and to unblock or vice versa any efforts of russia, for example, to block any decision , it will be divided into the fact that they must be sought a minimum of three more allies in this representation means the un security guard. well then, ok, and it is possible to stick it somewhere, although i have very big doubts that it will be possible to replace it in such a context as i called an increase in the number of causal family members and an increase in the work for blocking. maybe , but not enough and to be like my deep conviction regarding a certain thesis regarding

what my father said, we understand now on the hull of a very serious, well, geopolitical disaster, and biden, in principle, is there to understand very simply , if everyone does not lose, well, if ukraine loses well, the whole world is going to lose this one, and once again, baidy expressed his profession without any doubt that russia alone is to blame for this war. that is, there are no theses of the russian team, such as, er, ukraine, there is a classification, or there was ukraine, or there was a collective smell on in ukraine, there are biochemical laboratories and so on. well, the whole cross that you asked the russians, yes , i bought it, yes, biden made it clear to everyone that the fault lies on the shoulders of one country. this country is called russia, but despite everything, russia

is a member of the un security council and the minister of foreign affairs of russia, lavrov will speak at the un general assembly, then he did not fly there, of course, because there is a warrant from the international criminal court, this is already telling, but zelensky says that we will seek to have russia excluded from the un security council, there are a lot of questions about the status russia regarding the fact that they acquired membership in the united nations in general. because ukraine was the founder of the united nations, unlike russia, russia became the legal successor of the soviet union, and here it could very well be since in the legal aspect, a decision could be made that they do not have the right to be in place of the soviet union in the council of security because, well, this is legal succession. well, it is not some kind of inheritance will or something else , that is, legal succession was recognized by some of the states in

including the post-soviet space, when the soviet heritage was shared, or whether it is possible to push russia out of the soviet security council ? well, let's talk about the successor, not only er, the tyranny was acquired by russia then, and in general it was assigned to the successor of the former soviet union in many directions, even in in the context of preserving control over the nuclear arsenal of the public soviet union, i.e. ukraine is there from the same belarus , that is, we, in fact, someone decided in the geopolitical game that it would be very safe if the nuclear arsenal did not remain in ukraine but moved to russia , then strategic bombers also decided a lot of processes there and further on in the text, we will not get into the

woods. of the great republic of china, the people's republic of china is roughly like a horde for us, it looks like this because it is the people's republic of china in its current form that has taken the place of the former. but in this form , the people's republic of china, the communist china, just entered the united nations against the background of certain geopolitical software losing games, in which the united states of america played a very large role. well, let's talk frankly, it wasn't us who brought china into the radbesim, you mean the chinese people of that communist china, well, that's the story , er, ukraine, yes, it would really be very coffee, very correct from the point of view of returning justice, you know, but i will tell you that i

emphasize once again, i think that this is a little less, even less realistic scenario than the scenario proposed by the united states in the context of the increase in the number of permanent members of the un security council and how in the next stage - this is already how i can think of it, it is an increase in the quota for blocking, well, relatively speaking with such an increase, it would be possible to block it only if there are two-thirds or one-third of the votes at least, therefore, out of 10 members, at least four votes are needed to block decisions and it can work, so our scenario, which from the point of view of history, is more fair. it is true, but less probable than proposed by the states today, mr. igor, a meeting was held in the format of rammstein rammstein rammstein 15th more than 50 representatives of different countries of 50 countries representatives decided - let's say today

they discussed further further supply weapons to the ukrainian state, the czech republic has agreed with the netherlands and the netherlands to supply czech weapons to ukraine with their financial support, the first sub-project will be the transfer of the previously announced 15 t-72a tanks , then there will obviously be howitzers, small arms, infantry fighting vehicles, air defense equipment, ammunition, they were also informed that abrams tanks will soon be on the battlefield in ukraine, and the secretary of defense of the united states of america, lloyd austin, said on rammstein that this is what i should continue to work hard to ensure ukraine air defense systems and interceptors that it needs and now in the midst of a counterattack on we must also insist that ukraine receive the ammunition that is needed to continue the fight

, including 155 mm ammunition, i am also happy to announce that the m1 abrams tanks that the united states previously committed to deliver soon will arrive in ukraine good day , mr. major, in principle, our allies are saying the right words, and those who help us are speaking. that it could not have been so protracted if our allies had put more effort into it well, let's be frank about the issue that we have been discussing for a year and a half already and could we faster yes we could faster and could our allies do more and faster yes we could and why didn't they do that? they looked at us because instead of digging trenches, we are preparing for barbecues on new asphalted roads and are going to drive on those barbecues

. well, they looked at us, so why do you invest different systems weapons to a country that can realistically not even stand up in 2-3 weeks , that is, based on the actions of the authorities and underestimating the spirit of the ukrainian people, it is true, well, they were going for a cold calculation and not for our spirit , but nevertheless they resisted and in principle, we chose our right to survive on this planet earth. this is how we survive because the russians, well, this is a war of extermination and not here. this is no longer a secret. all the actions of russia in relation to ukrainians are regarded as genocide of the people. further statement loydalasya well, i heard another very good quote there. and i would also like to draw attention to it, too, that russia as a country that , well, is really carrying out acts of aggression on the territory of ukraine. well, by the way, not only that, but that means that it destroyed such an amount of grain that

10 million people well, in the last period, it was possible to feed 10 million people in one year. that is, this is also an important phrase in the context of russia, a terrorist country, russia is a killer country, and it doesn't matter how much goes on which planet or in africa or where people are starving and dying, russia - this is a country and an outcast, and this was exactly what was observed in this thesis about grain and about 10 million people during the year who could not eat anymore due to the speed of decision-making by the western world. i do not object to the words of the president of lithuania on the sediment who said that corruption slows down decision-making well, this is a fact well, we already have partners, as they say, they are beating us in the back of the head with these theses. is the world ready for our victory so ready? is the world ready for our quick victory so ready? the world is ready for

the defeat of russia, so ready, is the world ready? for a quick defeat of russia no not ready no not ready because they have not resolved the issue and who will be the successor of the nuclear arsenal if the russian empire loses and the loss of russia is not just somewhere out there putin raised his hands and said we surrender and the loss of russia - this is the jurisdiction of the threat from russia, and the absence of a threat from the russian federation can be and only the schedule of this evil empire is like this will this disintegration of the evil empire happen quickly no it will not happen whether the americans and the chinese have resolved all issues regarding siberia no they have not resolved whether the western the world, as i have already said, about the denuclearization of russia, how should this process take place, how should it be taken under control, then all the nuclear weapons that russia has bought, no, i have not decided, why do we think that the world will now give us everything in

order for us to speed up this process, and in he became further, ceased to be controlled on the territory of russia, the world, unfortunately, is not ukrainian-centric, we are often attacked by various types of human rights defenders , he tries to put on a white coat, give us white gloves and say that you must win the war in a white coat, he and in white coats do not win and even when they give us certain units of weapons we are forbidden to use them and please tell me on the territory of russia please and how can we destroy the launchers we have to destroy the launchers why will we spend our whole life asking the world to give us patriots in order for us to shoot down missiles, do we have to destroy factories on the territory of russia, or will we beg the world for the rest of our lives to give us another detention center or another headquarters, eh, myself in that or some other anti-aircraft anti-aircraft defense forces so that we they beat down forever shaken who are blinking already in bundles, i emphasize once again without transferring the war to the territory of the enemy, when his

military economic infrastructure is destroyed, such wars are not won by words in general , that is why the question of the end of the war is that the exit at the border of 91 no, this is not the end of the war this the beginning of possible negotiations for this period is now polish in the form of nato. yes, this is a certain kind of security, but once again i emphasize the lack of opportunities for russia to start a war again - this is the collapse of this empire, this is already final victory, then we really need to continue to do our part, and the world must understand that while the soldiers of ukraine are falling , they are still living in the western world, god forbid. where is the last ukrainian soldier? finland understood this when it quickly broke into nato, however, this does not prevent

representatives of the authorities in finland from saying, oh, you know. well, there is a very big risk of escalation from russia and a nuclear threat. that is you have jumped under the umbrella of nato and now you are starting some such incomprehensible dances with a tambourine about the fact that it is necessary to somehow come to an agreement, because maybe putin is cheating on nuclear weapons. gesture, they didn't bring him there to look at him, they were supposed to blow him up and they did blow him up, and if the russians brought the atomic bomb to zaporizhzhia, they brought him there dynamite well, i'm speaking figuratively now, what are they doing there brought in not in order to look at it, but in order to blow it up. therefore, this may be the next step if the russians from all irons from all tvs from all the right cars , it is a shame that they will use nuclear weapons , the option is not excluded that they can do it

, because what is being done in putin's bunkers, and what is the average temperature of the chamber of those crazy people ? we can't measure it, but the western partners . some kind of nuclear weapon, that is, what should we do then, the question is not the proliferation of nuclear weapons, how many stories can be told, there are a lot of stories, unfortunately, i emphasize once again that the world is not ukrainian-centric, but many countries and rammstein are an example for us all to understand that a defeat, god forbid ukraine, can lead to an escalation already on their territory and of course not everyone wants this, well, well, and since over the past few months , the western press has been actively discussing the pace of the ukrainian counteroffensive and how

it is developing today, the head of the united of the committee of the chiefs of staff of the united states of america, mark milley said after the ramstein meeting about the counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine, listen, russia made the biggest strategic mistake they have ever made, they invaded a country that is free and independent and this country has no intention of stopping until it is free and independent again ukraine is achieving gradual and slow success every day is making progress with the support of international partners but this struggle is not over yet with the approach of winter the ground will become wet later the frosts will come, but from the conversations i had, the ukrainians have no intention of stopping even in winter, they have a strategic initiative and they will continue this until the final goal is reached, the ukrainians will continue to develop their initiative because the ukrainians have no other way out, that is, the question here is quite simple, that is either they us or we are right for them well this is like a stationary

war we have no other options we cannot fly into space and the russians are flying into the neighboring space so this war will continue as long as it continues russia's aggressive policy and it is not only putin who is to blame, but the whole of russia. people, i would like to recall the words of one of the high-ranking generals of nato member countries who were asked on the calm down date if they supplied weapons to ukraine. well, in general, are you ukraine or they would they continue, or would they win, he would say yes , the ukrainian would continue the struggle, even if they were to be influenced with axes and, as they say, with scythes, then they would do it, they would simply die , more ukrainians would die, but they would stop their because this is a struggle for the survival of options or we are beaten or we are fighting , well, that is, we don't have a third option, but you know about slowness or not slowness, well

, these notes, even well, we heard even though it's a commendable performance to ukraine, but notes about the slowness, you know, ask it like, well, for me, it’s like a crazy experiment, well, they say, listen to the people, but you can only fight with the same chivelins and stengs, because we fight against the second army of the world , and we are customs and we will fight ana try to fight yes, but if we don’t give you 300 tanks, i asked for a tinned adamo only 100 will you go to the counteroffensive and of course, we will go with us there are no options, we will go anyway yes, but you can go to the counterattack without having enough power for demining, but we can and you can go on a counteroffensive without air support and we can and you can go on a counteroffensive and achieve significant quick successes without a colossal advantage in artillery and we can listen it's kind of like a fucked up experiment to me it looks like a fucked up experiment enough already

to test our value, we will still fight in our country. there are no options, but it will be much better for the world if we win faster in our country, then more will survive and we will be able to rebuild our country. during martial law, without martial law, hold elections and here are our leaders like this. wow, you are jackpot, we can. but it will be unfair, but we can only give 5 billion because we don't have that much money, so give us 5 billion dollars for elections at the time when the elections cost 5 billion hryvnias but admit it, we still want to make money from this and here is already criticism towards our government , we need to defend national interests but we don't need to be guinea pigs, we do what we can with the forces and means where we are and now when we some pseudo-experts of nato countries, they have seen at least one operation of nato countries without advantage, next to desert storm or any other operation, first the arrival of the aviation, then

the artillery will attack, then the dominant one will enter and then the special forces will enter. first, the russian aviation comes out, then the artillery, which is superior in number, hits us, overwhelming us in the number of tanks and armor, and then the walls of kadirov prisoners, and the area of ​​the country, which has three times the population, come in, and then their special forces come in, and we are also here. we manage to win, because we always go into a counter-attack, knock out the special forces near kyiv, and then we will butcher their meat somewhere in the forests near kupyansk, or in donetsk region, or in the south , there will be no frost, there will be no frost in us. there are no options but in my opinion, the attacks will help to speed up the interruption of logistics, and after the attack, if the right-wing missiles from germany also arrive , this will also help us, and you know, today they say that ukraine gave up 10 leopards, but

the opards arrived, which were decommissioned 10 years ago , were worn out, and we they were certainly not accepted because they need to be repaired, this is the story, that is why i understand that the world is not ukrainian-centric, but once again i emphasize the terrain of peace in europe and in the world, a dash of injustice in the world today protects three ukrainian soldier thank you mr. igor this was igor lapin, a major of the armed forces of ukraine, a special agent, a people's deputy of ukraine of my convocation, friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live on youtube and facebook, please like to this video and also take part in our vote, we ask whether the united nations will dare to exclude un peacekeeping , dispersal, yes, no, your option, please

leave it under this video. er, one more expert and this is oleksandr musienko, the head of the center for military and legal research, oleksandr. i welcome you. i am glad to see you on our broadcast. i congratulate you today, such a big foreign policy day and rammstein . the session of the un general assembly has begun on the 15th. everyone is waiting for a speech on e zelenskyi, well, at least in ukraine, and before the speech at the un general assembly, the president of ukraine made a statement that the un general assembly should exclude russia for treason , to the extent that it is now probable and to what extent the un general assembly can act like this like once the league of nations with the soviet union when

the soviet union attacked finland in 1939, i think it is unlikely to exclude russia, it is necessary to understand despite the fact that the argumentation is given, it will not be well here it is worth understanding another thing that i want to remind you that the events which happened after the exclusion of the league of nations, they led russia out of the league of nations, they eventually led to the fact that the league of nations ceased to exist and in 1942 , the washington treaty was signed, which stipulated that nazism must be defeated, and then after to establish another international organization and, well, in fact, some kind of un has become with principles that would not start aggressive wars, violate borders and so on today. i think that we