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[000:00:00;00] who learned from his ukrainian colleague here what is currently happening on the battlefield and what the needs of the ukrainian forces are, the most relevant talks between lloyd austin and volodymyr zelensky, tomorrow, filming not zoryan stepanenko, marik radio freedom with you freedom of the morning my name is katya nekrecha and further in this stream we talk about such topics the president of poland compared ukraine to a drowning boat that can drag to the bottom the one who saves, so he commented on the situation with the import of ukrainian grain, to which zelensky answered, why the presidents of the countries have not yet met as planned and how the grain affects relations between kyiv and warsaw, new york times journalists released their own investigation that the market in kostyantynivka could have been hit by a ukrainian rocket from a buk installation that allegedly malfunctioned, the sbu insists that russia hit the city with a rocket s-300 what evidence of their version do american
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investigators provide and what do military analysts and ukrainian leadership think about this version we talk next every weekday morning from 9:00 here on youtube radio svoboda we talk about events in to ukraine and the situation at the front, stay with us to stay up to date with events, subscribe to our channel, the attack on kostyantynivka, which killed 16 people, was probably caused by a malfunctioning ukrainian air defense missile, released from the letter system , an own investigation was released about this by journalists of the new york times newspaper, according to the authors the missile probably flew from the side of the territory under the control of ukraine from the direction of the northwest, where the city of druzhkivka, under the control of ukraine, is allegedly located, journalists come to the following conclusion
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based on the recording of the video surveillance cameras, because they say that a few seconds before the rocket fell, the pedestrians turned their heads to the alleged initial sound of the rocket, and the direction of its movement, the journalists judge by the reflection of the rocket in the roofs of two parked cars near the impact site, and the journalists also quote witnesses who said that they saw the rockets fired from duzhkivki in the direction of the russian front line , approximately under the impact of one of the witnesses with whom the journalists of the york times spoke and allegedly said that he saw the rockets going in the direction kostyantynivka, ukrainian, an unnamed military man from druzhkivka said that he heard two rocket launches around this time, but he did not name the directions . in addition, the times journalists who were in druzhkivka during the attack on kostyantynivka said that they heard rocket launches from fields on the outskirts of the city at about this time. well, and as another argument, the journalists cite an analysis of the size of the holes and debris found at the site
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of the rocket fall in kostyantynivka, the author of the investigation says that they correspond to the size and shape of the 9m38 rocket launched buk anti-aircraft system is known that ukraine uses a soviet-style system, as does russia, the journalists of the new york times write about this, what caused the missile to fall , the authors here suggest that it could fail and fall without hitting the target, and the journalists also note that the faster after all, the rocket fell with unspent fuel in the rocket engine, which could detonate or burn after the impact, the new york times author writes that the ukrainian authorities allegedly initially tried to prevent journalists from gaining access to the wreckage of the rocket and the zone the fall immediately after the attack, officially, the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine has not yet commented on the publication of the american edition
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. mykhailo podolyak, the adviser to the head of the office of the president of ukraine, reacted to the article in his telegram post. he said that the material of foreign journalists strengthens conspiracy theories, which means that this event will require an additional legal assessment. from the side of investigative bodies, society will receive a precise answer to the question of what exactly happened in kostyantynivka, as in thousands of other cases of russian attacks on our country within the limits of provoked war, at the same time, i would like to remind you that law enforcement agencies by default conduct a thorough and detailed investigation of each incident within the framework of recording and documenting russian war crimes , in particular, they are studying the circumstances of the attack on kostyantynivka, in any case, the legal truth will be established, in the meantime, we should not forget that russia launched an invasion of ukraine it is russia that is responsible for bringing the war to our country, the security service of ukraine has announced that it is investigating an article about violations of laws and customs of war there indicate that it was russia that struck the city from the s-300 complex, which is evidenced in particular by the identified fragments of the missile from
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the impact site, and they are also investigating a number of other materials there, which, according to the sbu, indicate russian involvement in that shelling , the sbu gave this comment to the ukrainian bbc and public i would also like to add that shortly after the attack on kostyantynivka , the founder of the conflict voiced his assumption that it was a ukrainian missile that could have fallen on the city in a telecast of an analytical group that investigates open sources of circumstances of armed conflicts, ruslan livyev said that the missile could have been launched from a ukrainian plane from the northwest , where the positions of the ukrainian army are located. he, like the journalists of the new york times, analyzes the reflection of the missile on the roofs of cars and the views of people on the approach of the missile, which were recorded by surveillance cameras at the same time soloviev emphasized that it could have been a tragic
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accident and not a targeted strike . check all these data in the conditions of war. the defense express expert remained on our air. greetings to ivan. good morning. and tell me whether the arguments of the new york times journalists are convincing for you personally, which evidence you consider to be thorough, and which ones you have doubts about. do you understand this in principle ? for such a statement, there are specific stories, the statements of a russian analyst, which are given in general in the russian federation, but you know how there, in principle, you can understand how well-argued they are the statement of the journalists in new york. this is either a conflict of intellectuals, roughly speaking, but here , you know, a non-electric question arises right from the start. and those are all wonderful people , they are sure that we have missiles up to the zerka buk , in principle, remained in service, but even you are personally sure of the energy issue that these rockets for boxing complexes
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have remained in our arsenal because we can remember these beautiful showers from the pentagon that were somewhere there in the winter of 2023, at which they announced and you gave me information about what especially for the buk complexes we have. well, to be more precise, the 9m38 type missiles are the soviet side, which we are very close to exhausting, and it is not for nothing that there was a story that the americans are undertaking to adapt our letter complexes, and probably there is also provision for a cube complex under the soviets. under american missiles, and they have 7 all spheres that can be adapted to various launchers , including land-based anti-aircraft missiles, therefore, accordingly , the question even arises that, let’s put it this way, these people are sure that exactly what could have flown there a ukrainian missile from the po complex, er, beech 9 m38, they are sure that we have them, arrests, people turned their heads somewhere
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, they thought that there was a sound flying, er, i suggest , after that, everything was to conduct a small exercise somewhere, to hear when it was pouring, only the transliteral apparatus well, why not during the air auction, well, the same, thank god. it happens when you destroy or fly not during the air three, and the helicopters are received, they do not fly, not during the air alarms, well, try to detect after how many you will be able to feel, let’s say with a look, eh those tell me the trajectory of the flight of this aircraft well, and probably the most interesting thing, judging by everything, which journalists of the new york times are such uh-uh analysts, the conflicts of temlijams are recorded they are people because they can clearly see regardless of that there you will be damned at a speed above well you know it literally eh- well, there must be people with whom nietzsche wrote, and now they are not kidding because, for example, i would not say that i would say what the hell, but i certainly do not have good enough vision to catch an aerial object
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flying like that at a speed of more than 3,000 km/h this is, and departing from the version that it is a complex, well, an anti-aircraft missile from the 9m38 letter complex, it could also be the same from the version that was declared to libya that it was like harm, the mig-29 collapsed and fell, if you continue to understand this, well , you know what is in this design they cited well, because everyone has the right to some kind of their own picture, er, well, because well, let's say yes , even if the persecution was not justified or justified, they have the right to this point of view, but there is one story , they are already sure that missile with warhead with a part of only 60 kg and a starting mass of 600 kg, well, this is about an anti-aircraft missile, where 9 m 38 is more inconvenient, it is capable of such large-scale destruction work, unlike
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the 5v 55 anti-aircraft missile of the s300 complex, which returns a mass of 1.5 tons and a warhead of 150 kg dospi question and in general, we have soviet missiles before the buk complexes, but because of the question, that is because the new york times journalists say that they may be in service there, and they almost confirm this. and according to information from open sources, what is known, let's turn on logical thinking and let's put it roughly like this, if no one from our side was even particularly interested, well, there is already a passionate speaker of the air force, yuriy ignat , who is in a hurry to deny any such thing. book complexes, because these rockets are exhausted just like consciousness 300, you can get rockets on the foreign market, then to beech complexes in general. this question is complex and specific, therefore, i
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personally have a question: how many books are there letter settings, they are, they are used, there are rocket launchers, there may not even be any, do you already understand what the problem is, the rocket launch may not be, why do we have this debate, it sounds anti-popular, why, for example, the beating of martyrs , anti-aircraft machine guns are used . if they thought there, well, a rocket flew by from our sister, it would be possible to discuss there. well, but they took the beech complex there. you are probably the most deficient in general. well, here, but well , you just know, this is one thing that can be done here. arguments to say regarding this story, they are for the beginning let it be determined whether we have these missiles or not later, and even if there are arguments hmmm, i express all this when i was there analyzing why
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, just leaving the position, no worse, we lost the signs well, because, well, it’s not a secret, because what the during the war, a large-scale introduction of anti-aircraft missiles was recommended - they were repaired by the method of technical cannibalism, that is, painted missiles are taken from them, serviceable spare parts are twisted , they are put on new ones. the moment also arises, and yevhenivka above the market should shoot down these rockets so that they fly from druzhkivka, because well, hmm, there is a buk complex there, it does not have such a long history of flight. to stand somewhere there in duzhkivka, inside, it would be necessary to fly over kostiantynivka. somewhere there, a couple of kilometers from the front line shoot down air targets somewhere there, then the budget for s3 feet was suitable well, not for letters, in principle you have a doubt
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i.e. this is the story that hypothetically such a malfunction could happen with the missile that was released system of letters it is also not an argument for you there could not be such a malfunction or if it were hypothetically imagine what it would be such consequences could be now you are interpreting my words incorrectly especially after that, i sometimes say that i , er, know that we had a missile recommended . in this way, even if we had one, they expressed the argument that it would be the s3 missile of the complex, it is possible, this is exactly the story to which it is worth it would be pushing even further to prove the two objectivities that the s300 missiles were flying from our side or from theirs, but simply , well, i didn't say that i was warning at all. from the picture, just in style, we can imagine worse, it was our missile itself, but not based on such an objective picture , questions arise if i repeat them, if there were talk of complexes with 300 it would be a different
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matter and there you would be you know, you can there would be something to argue, but well, but by the way, but another plus point if they didn’t still huddle there for this empirical arguments oh , people there somewhere turned their heads, saw a rocket and pooped and went at a speed of 30 3000 km well , let’s ask the question again, you personally you are able to see the assembly flying at a speed of 3,000 km and to recognize it, that is, it is also not an argument and it cannot be used as evidence, well, you understand, especially how until the accused are there, if there is, ok , here is the argument that there is something obstructing the journalists, this is precisely why it is worth it push back well, because the story looks strange, i'm even there, well, a report to the national police of the donetsk region, a report, for which we will report in september about, er, the attack on kostyantynivtsi, we will report separately , it was not reported, it would be possible to push back, plus, even if you compare the destructive force of the strike, that's all
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- from the s300, there would be just such destruction, and accordingly, if journalists would focus today on what it looked like, because it was very convincing, but you know, i will repeat it again. well, we don’t look different then. our hospital machines fly by several times a day. and here i am. how can i tell you? well , for the first time, i can't do something. she where is she? well , about once every fifth time, why are these people sure that you can see a high-speed flying object? it means that there are more than a few. well, you can see right away, briefly, now we are talking about a very specific moment, which consists in this, that there are problems with our anti-flood defense, that our material part is, to put it mildly, old. that all those buks were planned to be replaced by ours, this is it, and if there are specific technical problems
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, it would be better to hunt for such strong arguments for the sake of obtaining the truth. or there are some other possible technical details, at least fragments , and just start arguing to uh , tell them to the arguments. we saw a 60% rocket somewhere there. to be fair, it must be said that the journalists there give the argument that the traces from the rocket and the wreckage that they saw that it was 9 m 38 according to their according to this material, so to summarize briefly if possible ivan, that is , there were too many questions in general, did the journalists make a mistake in this material, is there really something to investigate, is there something to talk about and what to expect then how official there, how the sbu will conduct this investigation, should journalists take up all analysts should also take up the investigation of this story from other publications
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, let's put the text here, let's clarify the questions from the sbu, there should be official results well because this is a specific story and taking into account the fact that this is about our air defense and the citizens of ukraine are interested in an objective investigation of all these problems , even if it turns out that it is our anti-aircraft missile from the other side, well, taking into account the level of argumentation that they give the opinion of these beautiful people should be taken into account, but do not push away such a basic person, because i personally urge you, please, after when there is some ether, try it the first time, you will see where there is what is flying, especially if it buzzes from when will you get it? well, it’s just, well, this is such an argument, you know, if there was a separate form for such things, they would immediately be fired from work , and here it turns out that you can work for the world’s leading publication. and regarding this investigation, ivan kyrychevskyi, an expert of defense express, spoke about the investigation
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of e-e journalists-new york dances ukraine imposes a tariff on polish vegetables about this deputy minister of economic affairs of ukraine taras kachka already told the polish newspaper pospolita, in particular, soon, according to him, ukraine will ban the import of onions, tomatoes, cabbage and apples from poland. i should note that the day before the possible introduction of such an embargo on products from poland and hungary , the prime minister of ukraine denys shmyhal announced that ukraine south such a step. if these states do not agree to coordinate measures for the european commission and do not cancel unilateral bans on ukrainian goods, russia attacks our ports every day, destroys infrastructure, elevators, attacks agricultural businesses are mined by the clearing, the further blocking of our agricultural exports, ukraine and its neighbors will hit the ukrainian economy , finances, tax revenues and jobs , such a blocking will also play into the hands of the russian plan to create another global food crisis, kyiv offered brussels on the so-called grain platform, moreover , myhal says that ukraine presented to
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the european commission an action plan for controlling the export of four groups of agricultural products from ukraine, and i also plan to adopt a resolution according to which products that export up to five neighboring eu states will receive verification and approval from the ukrainian ministry of economy. meanwhile, a meeting between volodymyr zelenskyi and the polish president is planned for the un assembly in new york, because duda did not take place, the leaders did not have time to hold negotiations due to the busy schedule of geno assembly events. this is how fanji and duda explained the polish president also commented on kyiv's lawsuit against warsaw to the world trade organization and says that ukraine should remember the help of poland and emphasizes the polish borders are not closed for ukrainian grain because its transit continues to go through poland and now, according to the polish president, it is twice as much as in february-march of this year , but some ukrainian business circles, duda says , want to sell grain to neighboring poland, because they say it is easier than transporting it somewhere further because of this, such a conflict of interests with polish farmers arises, the polish leader notes
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in a conversation with polish journalists. regarding this situation, duda has already used such a metaphor where he called ukraine a sinkhole in this situation and poland ukraine is the savior of russia alone. ukraine is under attack from russia . it is undoubtedly in a very difficult situation. it is grasping for everything it can or can have claims against it. well, of course, we can or do we need to act to protect ourselves from someone harming us. harm of course we must act to protect ourselves from the drowning one harming us because if the drowning one harms us and drowns us he will get rid of the help of metaphors at this year's general assembly volodymyr zelenskyi spoke at the un during his speech, mentioning the topic of ukrainian grain exports, he said that russia uses food prices in the world as a weapon, and thanks to the black sea grain initiative and the grain from ukraine program, kyiv together with its partners turned weapons into food again, while some in europe say zelensky plays solidarity in the political theater and
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helps prepare the stage for the moscow actor - said zelensky, we have launched a temporary sea export corridor from our ports and we are working hard on preservation of overland routes for the export of grain and it is disturbing to see how some of our friends in europe are playing solidarity in the political theater by making from the grain a thriller it may seem that they are playing their own role, but in fact they are helping to prepare the stage for the moscow actor of the economy of ukraine joined our i congratulate you mr. taras, i immediately have a question for you. why is there not enough transit through european countries in ukraine, and the ukrainian government is offering neighboring countries a compromise scenario regarding export of grain, what does it consist of? well, here are several different questions. the first question makes no sense. the second question is that we believe from the very beginning that the bans that have been introduced since april are
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absolutely unnecessary and, most importantly, harm poland more than ukraine because the polish the grain market for ukraine is not a matter of principle, but the principle is that it is not possible to ban the import or export of products so absolutely baselessly only on the basis of opinions expressed in the public space , then every company that would say that i don't like children's toys or cheese or cars, and let's ban them, that is, governments actually exist for this, in order to calm all their markets, i do this every day to say that there should be no such bans no to poland no to germany no to other countries, therefore, our main indignation is not in the number , but in the fact that poland is doing this national ban, it was
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wrong back in april and in- we agreed with the european commission to work on finding this we found the solution from may to september 15 because we found out that there are no problems, because we have problems again. in the sense that objectively the price of grain in poland is the world price and there is no way ukraine is at this price therefore, our decision, which we reached on friday, is affected by the fact that the european commission removes this ban as such, which does not at all fit into any rules of the world trade organization , instead of ukraine, in order to smoothly and very cautiously treat the reservation of polish farmers and agree potential supplies of grain to poland under the right of absolutely such in fact er said under the right to say no to any supply
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from the polish government, the polish government decided that they are not interested in listening to us and introduced a national ban on that only in that situation when in fact poland refused this tool that we are introducing and led its ban, we filed a lawsuit and announced that we are considering retaliatory actions because poland has banned new products, so this is a question about our restrictions there. this is the last in a line of all those events that have taken place since april and since april, the polish side clearly understands that they have no problems on the domestic market that would allow such actions to be taken and there are no legal grounds for such actions, and that is why , in principle, we emphasized for a very long time that the new well, we cannot tolerate we will because it is very dangerous for our exports both in wartime and in peacetime, and it is equally dangerous for the export of all exports of both poland and the european union. i understand correctly that
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ukraine will not concede that a lawsuit against the it will not be taken from the cell just as there is not enough transit in ukraine ukraine will stand here on its positions no, what i just said is absolutely not the opposite of ours, we will stand by what we offered a consensus for poland and this consensus we continue to insist on that this consensus is needed, consensus must be used, what the ukrainian government proposed is actually taking into account all the fears of polish farms without exception. and what infuriates us is that the polish government thinks that there are easy solutions, such as banning ukrainian collection only in this there is a misunderstanding that we want to emphasize again and again that what we offer and what we proposed on friday and monday is actually
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taking into account the interests of polish farmers and in order to remove this nobody needs a ban that is actually harmful to poland in the first place well, but today i understand that the polish government thinks a and for now we will actually introduce a discussion only in this public format. unfortunately, although we have working mechanisms for discussion with the european commission and as evidenced by our dialogue with all the other four states, we have a constructive approach even with those states that have introduced bans , so we don't have any such movement in the bank. the consensus is that they are on the table. and this is the right of poland to use it, that is, the ukrainian side is now waiting for a response from the polish side on this proposal of the ukrainian government, and so far there is no response, and could
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a ban on the import of goods from poland really be introduced soon? to ukraine, well, it is obvious that if the polish side continues to insist on its right every time to pull new products out of its sleeve that it wants to ban, whether it is wheat flour or rapeseed meal, as it did, then it is obvious that we should not. e to just leave it like that because the question is that tomorrow it will be done how. well, i don't know, there is something not from indonesia in relation to ukrainian products. i can't afford it, not because this is poland, but because i, in principle, cannot allow you to in my case, ukrainian exports were treated like this. therefore, it is obvious that if words do not reach, then we will have to act. i don't want to, but i have to act in such a way as to ban polish products in return. this will be the worst scenario of all that we laid out because
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the basic scenario is that we proposed a very effective mechanism that takes into account the interests of polish farmers, and it turns out that we care about the interests of polish farmers. and the polish government actually gives the whole world an example of what a polish farmer can do the same as a ukrainian farmer, i.e. taras, if the polish side does not respond favorably to the ukrainian government's proposal and does not allow the import of ukrainian products, then the ukrainian side will in response prohibit the export of polish products and do you already have a meeting planned with the polish when it can will happen today, tomorrow, there, next week , are there currently no such plans, we have the work of a coordination platform with the european union, which includes all five member states
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we continue discussions today. poland can join and we are also open to bilateral consultations . unfortunately, as of today, i do not have any consultations planned with the polish side. it is not important to speak in the language of ultimatums, we do not repeat the actions of our partners , we will follow this situation. after all, dudy is especially talking about the drowning man, well, even more attention is focused on this issue, taras kachka, deputy minister of economy of ukraine, was a guest on our broadcast . 00 and on the air of the espresso tv channel, subscribe to our channel, stay with us , i'm kateryna nakrechena and the whole svoboda
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ranok team, i wish you a restful day until we meet . welcome news to the espresso artery , kateryna shirokopoyas is working with you in the studio tonight the occupiers again attacked ukraine with snipers in peaceful cities and villages, launched 24 drones, 17 of them destroyed our air defense within the borders of the sumy, poltava, kirovohrad and dnipropetrovsk regions, reported to the air force, unfortunately, there were hits by enemy rogues, they targeted an oil refinery in kremenchuk, poltava region, a fire started there because of this work enterprises have been suspended on site, all relevant services are working, currently

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