[000:00:00;00] glory to ukraine is a verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko. i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. today in the program , the grain grew, brother, how global is the crisis in the relationship between ukraine and poland and how will the relations of the neighbors not hold back even for a day ? armistice on the terms of azerbaijan , how will this change russia's position in the caucasus , the un general assembly is ongoing, what key signals did ukraine receive from world leaders, move forward without pauses, the ukrainian counteroffensive will not stop for the winter about this and other things we are talking today for the next hour. our guests are sbu colonel, people's deputy of ukraine roman kostenko and former head of the security service of ukraine, people's deputy of ukraine valentin nalyvaichenko. however , before starting our big conversation

, i would like to share how the armed forces of ukraine attacked the command post of the black sea fleet of the russian federation today near sevastopol , for those who are currently watching us live on youtube, i suggest you take part in our survey today we ask you about the following are you ready for a long-term war with russia, we formulated this question because today there was a report that the representatives of the big seven, who were discussing the prospects of the russian-ukrainian war on the sidelines of the un general assembly, said that the russian-ukrainian war could drag on

for another six or seven years. so, are you ready for a long-term war with russia? yes, no, your option. please write in the comments under this video. contact us, colonel of the sbu - people's deputy of ukraine roman kostenko, sir. colonel, i congratulate you for the sake of seeing you on our air. i wish each other good health. thank you. during the last two days , there has been quite a large international palette, the center of which is ukraine, this general assembly, and today there was a meeting of the un security council , which was attended by volodymyr zelenskyi, what was said by the commander-in-chief the armed forces of ukraine, the president of ukraine, he says that the seat of the russian federation is occupied by liars or that their job is to justify aggression and genocide, in addition, he called

for the reform of the un so that the veto could be overcome by a qualified majority and also to expand the number of security council members including, among others, germany. vasyl nebenzia, a representative of the russian federation, tried to prevent zelensky's speech, but the chairman of the meeting, the prime minister of albania, edi rama, rejected the proposal. any proposals to stop zelensky's speech, what do you think? this is the highest tribune in the world, the most influential tribune in the world is the un security council and the un general assembly in general . are these two tribunes in a position to somehow influence the course of the russian-ukrainian war? i am not talking about to stop the russian federation and simply to influence it well, look at the un , it was actually created after the second world war in order to prevent future soldiers from

disputes . all this has been violated in the last year and a half, or how long the war has been going on, we are not talking about the 14th year already, let's just take a full-scale invasion, if russia was hiding there before that with some separatist movements, then after the 22nd year, you know the point of view of the un discredited itself as a body that can directly influence something, and all the more so because in this body russia has very great powers, which from my point of view it cannot have because when it was created when the organization of the united nations was created, there was no separate country like russia , there was a union, and it was the soviet union that occupied a place in the soviet union, and now russia, after the collapse of the soviet union, simply took over and everyone simply accepted that yes, russia is right

the next time you declared yourself the rightful successor. we remember then there was also ukraine and belarus, which were created. but russia is simply under its own power, it can be said that way . therefore, it is very questionably legal to take the point of view of what russia is doing there, and i support president zelensky here, that it should be reviewed because if it continues like this, then like the league of nations and this body in the past, it will not be able to solve the issues for which it was created . well, it is necessary to clarify for our tv viewers that ukraine has the status of ukrainian soviet the socialist republic was one of the founders of the un, and by the way, the belarusian socialist republic was also the founder of this un. russia really did not have anything that did not happen

in 1991. a country that directly commits aggression itself and imposes a veto on any decisions regarding this aggression, that is why i say that this is a discredit to the body as a whole and where no one can influence ours, why is such a body needed at all? what else did i say? zelenskyi at the meeting of the un general assembly he said that he knows about attempts to conclude shady agreements with russia, let's listen to zelenskyi, i know attempts to conclude some shady agreements behind the scenes of evil, you can't trust it, ask prigozhina if you should trust putin's promises, please hear me, let unity decide everything openly while russia pushes the world to freeze the war , ukraine is doing everything to ensure that after the russian aggression no one in the world dares

to attack any country for war crimes has to be a punishment, deported people must return home and the occupier must return to his land, that is the system that exists now and this entourage, this un general assembly, it no longer meets the challenges of the times, because when the un was created after the second world war, this structure would have to monitor security in the world, you correctly said that the league of nations did not fulfill this task, but the league of nations in the 39th year excluded the soviet union from the union due to the aggression of the ussr against finland, e.e. the un , which now cannot stop russian aggression well, it already looks like an atavism, this is the only structure of such a scale, but it is like a catavism, because since february

24, 2022, the security system and the world in general have changed a lot due to the aggression of russia against ukraine institutions, what is happening in the world, that russia's war against ukraine is not a local war, it is russia's war against the entire civilized world well, those who really need it, we realize what we think that everyone who is in the un, this war does not apply to everyone. yes there is a bigger one part of europe - this applies to african countries, yes, they are there economically, it affects them, but there they also have interaction with the russian federation. someone continues to work with the russian federation. therefore, we must understand that this is our war and it is close to us. we feel it. but not everyone in the world feels it, and when we think that we are now in the center of the world's attention, it is not so, and even speaking , he spoke about it, and he gave, he mentioned ukraine. he said it well, but it was not

the main part of his speech. also said that there are many geopolitical problems in the world that they also have to respond to. therefore, we have to understand this and do everything ourselves to attract our allies, first of all , ukraine, who are friendly to us in order to help us and we should not expose it so that we someone is guilty of something. unfortunately, no one is to blame for anything, and all that we can do to win in this country is by informing our partners that this is really the case, that we are fighting not only for the ukrainian land, for our land, but everything is much broader that we would we are for the entire civilized world, including for democracy in our country as well. now we are for democracy in volume. this is also inside the country. and we will say yes to politics and on the battlefield. thus, it is very important. and as for the un countries, i think that for many, this organization has already become just a tool for such as the russian

federation, others, so that it would be possible to influence the international society and they and many in this organization, well, many, i think , countries would understand that if something happens to them, this the organization will no longer protect them and that their protection is up to each individual country is the work of their hands and their allies, mr. colonel, the bloomberg agency, referring to its data, writes that the representatives of the big seven during lunch on the sidelines of the un general assembly agreed that the war between russia and ukraine will probably continue in the medium or long term they talk about the fact that we are talking about six or seven years, and this is much more than western officials assumed at the beginning of the 23rd year. well, i am already silent about what

the western officials talked about in february 22nd. this war will last two or three days there or two or three months and it is clear that they are now taking a long-term perspective, this perspective is six times in our favor, they are yes yes yes in six seven years the fact that during these years, russia will exhaust its mobilization resource, because economically they are talking about the fact that russia may weaken there in the 25th, 26th year finally, and there the mobilization resource until the 30th year, if i am not mistaken, was calculated in russia that it will end well, it is difficult to say what they measure and exactly what kind of analytical data do they take for this, because it is important to understand what they mean from a military point of view , if we just take two good ones, if there are no political and diplomatic developments, then

the war can be even longer. end in a year, it can also go on for years and it can be some let's say, as we are at the front, we honestly say, it was worth it. yes, there will be front lines, not one side, but the other side cannot move. the forces accumulated are sufficient for defense from one of the another sides and it’s already like this, let’s say the artillery works and the price of every 100 m, for example, it is too high to send its soldiers into battle in such a regime, really if there are no political diplomatic ruts there , it can go on for a long time, i wasn’t there, i’m not going to talk about 6- 7 years, but what eh let's say as eh many people said in the country there i am already silent until the end of the year or eh next year the war will end exclusively with a military victory or with the help of hostilities eh i in i don't believe it. i think there should be

some kind of complex measures, i am not saying what kind of negotiations there are, or there are some movements inside the russian federation, or, for example , pressure on the russian federation in order for these movements to disconnect. completely by sanctions when it is not possible , this can affect the speed if from the point of view of military operations only, then i will say that the near end of the war was probably friends. i remind you that on youtube you can take part in the survey today we are asking you about whether you are ready for a long-term war with russia yes no and your option please write in the comments under this video right now 58%, uh , those we ask are not ready for a long-term war and 38% are ready. and please don't forget to like this video. so that our conversation with colonel kostenko and then

with the former head of the security service of ukraine , valentin nalyvaichenko, will be trending on youtube. mr. colonel , there was a lot. i'm sorry, you raised a very good question. from the point of view of whether we are ready or not. unfortunately, you know, the enemy does not ask us whether we are ready or not ready. recently, i also gave an interview there and i was asked, for example, that russia can demobilize in the fall. the gur reported that there were 700 to 7400 to 700,000 military personnel. they asked me. and what do you think, how will we react to this? well, there is logic , a certain reaction. if russia recruits troops, then we will say that we need to counteract this in some way . will it be additional mobilization? additional equipment additional what means measures inside states, it is logical. and i see in the reaction to everything that our society is starting to get tired of this. and even there, looking at the comments under it, people are already talking about it. well

, they are tired and react very critically to it , especially there, i don't know, i am called a sofa in the army there are such a category of people who sit at home and think that someone will win the war for them, we must understand that this war is the business of the entire ukrainian people, and when we talk about mobilization , we are talking about measures aimed at ensuring the defense of the state and we will say sovereignty, therefore, here is the question. i have always said. and this continuation has rhetoric that this war on such a scale that we see has affected almost everyone. and here they are not someone's separate here. everyone should understand that it is our common business of ukrainians to defend our state. therefore, we should not speak there we have to prepare for what will come. soon there will be time to take up arms and defend our country. well, we must understand that the current war is the finale of the hundred years war of russia against ukraine. that is, we

are in the final stage of this war. because even during the last few tables, russia did everything to destroy ukraine, to destroy ukrainians , and vladimir putin has this very goal, he openly declares it, talks about the fact that ukraine never existed, the ukrainians invented it, the poles played pototsky, who else does he mention there and well, that is, it is a matter of life and death for ukrainians. that is, our progress means from uh, to me, i like it, you know, sometimes they write even there, uh, there are many people there, but you are there , where are your parents there, and where are your children, well, in me the children are still small, they are still but they are already ready to defend their state, yes, my own brother is in the army and from february 24 and before that , other brothers are fighting in the ato, their parents lost everything there in the kherson region, now there too well, my father is no longer of conscription age on it's a pity, that's why i'm fighting, my relatives are fighting and my soldiers are fighting

, that's why we will do as long as there is a war , as long as we will fight and defend our land , you make the decision, mr. colonel. over the past few months, the western press has actively commented on the course of the ukrainian counteroffensive yesterday, president zelenskyi gave an interview with anne and he said that the counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine continues. but whether there will be a big breakthrough this year is still unknown. he positively assessed the counteroffensive of the ukrainian military and confirmed that offensive actions are going slower than expected on to the question of whether a major breakthrough is possible this year, zelenskyi answered, "i think nobody really knows, but in the opinion of the president this year, it will still be possible to achieve success in some areas, at the same time, the general secretary of nato and jens stoltenberg this is how he characterizes the counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine, this is not a stalemate because the ukrainians are gaining momentum. i mean that they

push back the russians again and again, they continue to gain positions in the south and east, we are ready for a long struggle not because we can accurately predict how long the war will last, because we need to make it clear that president putin cannot wait for us, and that is why we are ready for a long struggle, mr. colonel, when stolkerberg says that we are ready for a long he is talking about the fact that we are ready with weapons for a long-term struggle, can the west and nato and the western countries, can they speed up the ukrainian counteroffensive , because there is always a question of weapons, there is always a question of airplanes, there is always a question of long-range missiles, there is always there are a lot of issues that, in principle, well, probably the north atlantic alliance could solve

much faster and speed up this counteroffensive, which they are currently assessing, well, ukrainians are fighting with what they have. well, thank god, what will happen next, what can we give and can it to speed up stoltenberg does not give answers to these questions why well, yes, we must understand that we are now advancing in a situation in which no one has ever been when the enemy outnumbers us when we speak i would say we are advancing and capturing and gnawing away at our land proportionally possible to the means that the enemy gave us and which are not the enemy but our partners and which are now in the enemy's possession, no matter how much they give us against how we now prevail in terms of forces and means , especially in technology, artillery shells, we have to understand this only what is terrestrial

conventional weapons, as we call them, plus to all this, the enemy has an advantage in the air at the expense of their newest aircraft, which they have ten times more than ours. we also don't have long-range planes, let's say they have the caliber or the x-55, which can hit the economy of the russian federation, and in these conditions we manage , let's say, to move forward is very difficult. even recently i came from zaporizhzhia, i was in the donetsk direction, in the normal donetsk direction, there is a bigger defense operation going on, our guys are coping very effectively , the drones show themselves, er, really, i know that there, er, they are sometimes underestimated, especially the generals at the top, and they really show and conduct analysis we see that they are, well, sometimes more effective than artillery, of course, no one removes artillery from er, let's say so agendas it has its own tasks, but it is precisely in russia that when there is an attack, you

point the bucket at yourself very effectively, that's why the answer to the fact that our counteroffensive was more effective, we really need not just weapons, but a different nomenclature of these weapons, and you really showed us that if we wanted us to attack quickly, these weapons would rather be with us here, the question is what we are aiming at, aiming at e slow advance as it will work or if we had otaka, that’s it now, if we already had aviation, it could be done in parallel, if we didn’t have from the tank coalition, not there , not 60 tanks, but 600, i will say that maybe these tanks were not needed in send battle to battle because it was already a weapon of deterrence, and russia will think about it when we have such a large amount of equipment. and is it necessary to continue this war, so i believe that the west does not add weapons to us to meet the expectations that they even set for themselves because we fight with the resources we have. when we are told that we

have changed something that the western media wrote about, ukraine has changed its tactics from western to its own . well, of course, because we don't have the resources to use western tactics. western tactics are all razed to the ground. is for with the help of artillery, they took control of the air, our planes support us , they completely demined everything, and only then, uh, the infantry comes, do we have such opportunities to do so now? available, we are calculating what the russians have and we are planning offensive actions with what we still have. therefore, it is difficult, but it works. therefore, the pace . yes, i agree as a military man that the pace is not high . by the end of the year it is unlikely but let's decide more, let's see ukraine

and the united states of america are already at the finish line in the matter of supplying long-range missiles and other weapons . losses on the battlefield, and we are not the only ones who know that zelenskyi these days has to meet with the president of the united states of america, joseph biden, and it is obvious that there will be talk of attacks, including although western analysts say that under during this visit of zelensky to biden, a large aid package will be announced, which according to you will deter biden from providing long-range weapons to the attacks, because as the western media show, this decision has already been adopted at various committee levels, in the senate, in the congress what is holding him back from giving these missiles, he is afraid of the escalation

of the situation, he is afraid that the ukrainians will very quickly liberate crimea or something. atakamps missiles well, they are not so long-range, looking at what kind of modifications they will give us. they are 165 km, and there are 300 km if we take such a war, why? they fly at 2,000 km, i’m not talking about nuclear carriers there at 12,000, they fly there at 2,000 caliber yes, we take them at 300 and they already tell us here are long-range missiles that can even not completely sometimes reach the entire occupied territory, just like us they also said that the concepts of the latest f16 aircraft were changed planes of the 70s we also have to understand i just want us to be realistic now what weapons are also provided to us not super long-range long-range weapons are not super

modern planes yes there good bros we were talking apards these are tanks not there not in 2020 but leopard 1 - these are the tanks of the 60s. that is why they are not the most sophisticated, the most modern weapons we are talking about and they want to give them to us, but let's say so, the attacks are looking , again, what modification is there, i will say the first modification, they are 165 km and there is a deviation and they are cassette and the deviation there goes to them 200 m, but the latest version is 300 km, and the deviation goes up to 3 m, and the questions do not tell us what they tell us . they started to produce a lot now, that's why these are, let's say, yes, what are the attack missiles? the latest versions, if we get

them, and the question of the quantity, if it will be 10 20, it will not change anything, if it will be hundreds of missiles , of course we will be able to balance the situation with that. at a depth of up to 300 km the enemy forced us to do something there, we will be able to destroy the crimean bridge and this is important, and then the schedules will be completely different precisely on the left bank of the kherson region and in the crimea, this can help us if they give us the real missiles that we need why do they give uh until now, well, this is a question, in particular, for our e-e internationalists, i say once again, we are following that clearly position when they do not provide us with the entire nomenclature of weapons, but they give it, you know, raising the rates as if hinting to someone that if you do not do something what we will gradually provide ukraine well, i think the answer lies in the speech of biden, who said that he has a lot of interests in the middle east and in

south asia and in general in the pacific ocean , and ukraine is not the center for him at all what is happening, but what is being offered to us now is very good, i hope that these missiles will come, most importantly, of the right quality and in normal quantity, then the result will be single ones, of course there are tens or dozens , let’s say yes, samples will help us but they don't even match the russian federation, once again they have a lot of missiles. that's why we need these weapons to make parity with all the weapons that are provided to us. well , of course, they don't give us the opportunity to strike the russian federation, but there were hints there, but i think that it will be the same as when signing each sample of weapons by a truck driver, we received, we signed some documents there, once the minister of defense even said against the reznikovs

that we would not strike on the territory of russia federation and not to strike on the territory of the russian federation in that phase of the war that is now transitioning to the war economy, well, this is prolonging the war, because the war can stop only when the russian economy, with the help of the chances of long-range missiles, let's say internal, some uh, russian coups, russia will be uh- let's say bear the losses, mr. colonel. you have already said about the quality of the weapons that are provided to us. and just a few days ago, ukraine gave up defective german leopard 1 tanks. this is the second such case, that is, a batch of e-e tanks to ten, as reported by the mass media, they turned out to be defective, which cannot be repaired on the territory of the ukrainian state due to a lack of trained engineers , and berlin sent its technical specialists to check, recognized the problems with the tanks, it was decided to send them for repair, as

spiegel writes, the situation is inconvenient for germany , since this is the second time when technical problems arise with leopards, how often do such problems occur, considering that the equipment that comes to us is not the first of its kind. as you have already asked, the f16 planes that were built there in the 70s, i will say that i have heard of such cases and i know that this question was raised even at rammstein at one time, there often came there as if new samples of weapons, but some elements there were, shall we say, wear and tear or we delivered some elements as warehouses, one of the chiefs told me that we are so unattached to the equipment we receive , believe me, i know that we even if we see that it is faulty somewhere but we will be able to repair it on our own, i will say that on many there are three sevens or other types of weapons already have a lot of things that are made by our defense-industrial complex or our

private enterprises, when we understand that in order to repair it, we have to take it to poland or let's say wait a long time for spare parts from our partners, we have already learned how to do it , but there are really such samples that are in the amount of nata, you have 10 there, and we say, well , already and so and so, everyone already looked, no, sorry , they sent it back and told us, uh, change it there, then even after that they apologized because there really was such a condition not really but let's say with to this question , i'm saying that after climbing rammstein, it improved, well, i think it's a human factor, because decisions are made by politicians, as a rule, about the handover, and the military executes them. they said yes, give yours, you have 10 vehicles there, er, military scouts , the scouts tell you to give five. well, of course, as a good commander and patriot, i'm