[000:00:00;00] from the european budget, that is, as part of the eu's joint game policy, poland will receive significant subsidies, and for some reason, in such a case, when poland talks about banning the import of our products, they do not want to give up the subsidies they receive from the common budget. therefore, this dialogue must be developed it seems to me that there will be some kind of compromise, it's just that it won't be possible in the near future, there is a unit . i want to return to the topic of prices . we understand to what extent any problems with our grain exports affect the price of bread in ukraine. that there, the price of grain is only one of the components that form a solid however, will we see any changes or are there any reasons for this, prices are already changing, in fact, everything started back in june, in fact , every month until today

, bread prices on average in ukraine have been rising 0.608% and trends for autumn say that a-a every month this percentage can increase there within one and a half why because the grain group does not play a big role late will say so big a-a great importance in the formation of the price of bread because there are other factors, in particular energy prices, wages, and the ratio of the hryvnia to the dollar, and actually in the conditions when our energy system became more expensive today . -e costs that will be transferred to ukrainian citizens and accordingly, we will see a trend of growth, unfortunately, for bread in these months, we can say, for example, well, there

may be two hryvnias per hryvnia, this will happen to what peak no one knows yes, it is clear about the attempts of several european countries at once, and about the attempts of ukraine now, if there is no agreement, then it is really there to appeal to the world trade organization to decide. maybe at the meetings with the major powers, what will happen in new york in the coming days. despite this, what else what other mechanisms can we apply in order to solve this situation because we understand that in reality, objectively , not only ukrainian farmers are suffering , it will still be reflected in one way or another on their colleagues and in europe too a-a well there is a certain conference between us and european farmers eh. it seems to me that here again we need to develop a dialogue eh , we need to look in the direction of um, well, in terms of increasing the expert potential - this is

romania mainly because the romanian logistician is still weak there is also a rather slow turnover of wagons and in fact the railway crossings between us and romania are not used to their full potential there how to speak not only when we talk about romania not only about the port constanta but also about romanian territorial waters that is to say unloading the constant will allow to reduce the cost of logistics there by 15-20. maybe even 30 dollars 100, and this will already bring the farmers to the plus in terms of grain crops, that is why here again it is worth talking about the promotion of exports, and in our country it is not yet fully used .

the romanian direction is also interesting are the ports of the baltic countries , which are capable of transshipping up to 10 million tons of grain a year, well, how do they indicate this and it goes. this grain goes in transit through poland. and what else is missing? of our farmers from european countries regarding covering at least part of the logistics costs, it would be quite logical, taking into account the fact that some of the european countries complicate our grain supply , do you agree with these main points? export is a partial compensation from the european commission of funds for carriers because it would really be possible to expand the logistics of transportation in the baltic and adriatic, but it is not cheap to get to poland, and

to croatia is even more expensive, on average it is more 100 dollars per ton, if such financing actually took place, it would have expanded the possibilities of ukrainian exports, not stopped full -fledged exports from the territory of ukraine, those european countries that are expecting those countries that are expecting ukrainian grain could have kept it in time, and in this way we would have avoided the escalation of the process of food inflation in the world. that actually because of the grain initiative, prices have already risen for products, that is, ukraine is working to ensure that there are certain negotiations regarding the fact that the european commission allocated these funds. and now in the conditions of how they canceled the ban on imports, how will they develop with the event, we will look further from the beginning, it was on a large scale, and this is outside the framework of the so-called grain corridor, dry cargo will deliver almost 20,000 tons of wheat to

various countries, and here we must it is time to thank our partners, the armed forces of ukraine, for ensuring the safety of these ships in their passage through the black sea . what kind of signal can this be for the entire civilized world and at the same time for the uncivilized part of the country in the person of the russian mr. pavl putin's federation. what do you think? well, this is a signal that, in fact, the world does not pay attention to russia, which continues its food blackmail, but we see, unfortunately, negative trends on the part of international organizations and insurers. as we know that the london insurers are logical, they refused to insure the ships that leave the odessa brothers, but at the same time , in his letter, he pointed out

that these insurers are ready to insure russian ships in any case, and this is actually , well, not very positive for us because what if these are double standards. but it seems to me that there are private companies and there are traders who are ready to take risks and ship ukrainian grain to fairly cheap ports and , roughly speaking, make money on this risk premium, the so-called and well, that is, it will recover, but not at such a significant pace as this is what i wanted, and the prospects for the restoration of grain water is what i looked at precisely from the point of view of geopolitics, this context, that um, this restoration is unlikely because it is not profitable, in general, for the parties to this agreement

, in a word, it remains to observe this situation. thank you, mr. pavly. pavlo martushev, an analyst at the center for food research and land use of the kyiv school of economics, was with us . thank you very much. in the conditions of war, it is always interesting to know what the enemy's situation is. we understand that a certain part of the grain was eaten by the enemy in the russian federation, and she even she showed some boxes of ukrainian grain to what are they called at the economic forum in st. petersburg, in fact . this is a certain amount that they take out of the occupied territories. where are they going? are there any countries that buy it directly, that is, let’s say without any gray schemes, and how can this be prevented? of course , they buy losses already for the ukrainian side of more than two billion dollars . such as some african countries that need this more than that

. let's speak frankly. there are situations that have actually been recorded on the territory of the arrival of stolen ukrainian grain in turkey. what is the truth about these ports that belong directly to the russians, but the fact remains the fact is that stolen ukrainian grain was not sold on the territory of turkey, therefore, as far as i know, certain syrian companies are sanctioned by the united states of america, in particular, regarding the impossibility of their commercial activities around the world, and unfortunately, the only thing we as a state can do today is together with by our partners to fix and form an evidence base and after the victory of ukraine in the war against russia, in fact, to set this as reparations , a form of payment for direct compensation to producers and the ukrainian state what exactly is russia going to do here? how will it proceed ? will it, i don’t know, try something there? find partners in

the middle east, and in order to arrange its own analogue of grain cordodor. how are you a bishop? believe me. in this respect, they feel quite good about russia despite the fact that there is a grain initiative or not, on the contrary , when there is no grain initiative it is even better for them, and because even in the conditions of a full-scale war and sanctions that apply to this country and last marketing year, they sold about 45 million tons of grain on foreign markets, they are the only grain importers in the world, and actually they were there, we were there, it all depends on the yield, that is, if the good one grows in our country, if it is less, then it falls. in that year, they had a good yield. season. they will also be no less at our expense. as we said, ukrainian was also stolen. ugh. actually , this does not prevent them from entering the markets where ukraine used to work, because while you and i are trying to solve problems with our

neighbors, we are already forming logistics in russia present on these markets, it already makes offers, and actually makes its offers in the conditions of the crisis that it itself created , and showing that, let's see, today you lost a partner in the form of ukraine, because it cannot move fully quickly through the black sea, but we offer you our grain and the rate of this grain is increasing. that is, the greater the problem in the world with food products, the greater the growth , the more russia will earn from it, and in these conditions it is impossible for us to speak, and it is not possible to speak, in particular, at the un assembly, that which sanctions should be lifted from this country, on the contrary, these sanctions should be strengthened and the possibility of providing arms to ukraine should be strengthened in order to form the best humanitarian logistics route through the black sea, because thanks to the armed forces of ukraine, not only in the context of the transfer of shuto, but also the fact of the formation of parity in the black sea, so that russia itself i didn't feel there. we will remind the owners of the recent actions of the armed forces of ukraine in relation to the black sea fleet, as if this is an indicator of the fact that

the only guarantor of security in the black sea despite the fact that several nato member countries have access to the black sea, only ukraine remains, so if ukraine is further strengthened with weapons, then we will need to talk about a grain agreement, we will be able to fully establish exports to them on the black sea for trade and for ukraine and all interested parties and ensure in fact , we will hope for that. thank you, mr. denis , for once again joining us in trying to explain such a difficult topic to our viewers . thank you, denis, deputy chairman of the all-ukrainian of the agrarian council joined our broadcast, we are moving on, let's talk about another of our neighbors, who actually became a guide for terrorist countries, we will continue to talk about belarus, and more precisely about belarusian dictator lukashenka . the document emphasizes that the lukashenka regime should bear responsibility for

the destruction and losses caused to ukraine and a special international tribunal for the crime aggression should receive jurisdiction to investigate not only putin and the russian leadership, but also the leaders of belarus. the country has called for finding ways to seize the financial assets of the lukashenko regime in order to direct them to the reconstruction of ukraine . in addition, the members of the european parliament have called for mirror sanctions to be applied against belarus. from belarus, for example, belarus, or rather , the lukashenka regime, prohibited the issuance of new foreign passports in embassies outside belarus, which means that belarusians who fled from the lukashenka regime, opposition citizens may find themselves in a terrifying threat because they will have to return to the interior of the country in order to update their documents, where they may face not only a fine, let's say administrative responsibility for

certain actions, but also the real imprisonment of belarusian bootleggers, in particular about this too let's talk with maxim milta, associate analyst of the center for east european studies mr. milta hello, glad to see you hello, thank you for the invitation, mr. meltov, let's start with this topic at once, and let's start anyway, what a danger is the possibility of refusing to renew documents, extend documents, including border passports outside the territory of belarus for those who fled the lukashenko regime, well, alexander lukashenko is trying to compensate for such time august 2020 and probably the only thing in this news is this event

. by the end of 2020, as well as the beginning of 2021, it was clear that they are only from the point of view of such a public discourse , the lukash film regime and those policies, which are correct in the first place. lukashenko's levity was determined by the devil, a clear line between the topics of those who express unspoken loyalty to the regime. the lukashenko regime has carried out up to now, including the so-called trials that are held in absentia very often against those who, being in the conditions of knowledge, are trying

to resist the lukashenko regime , including in relation to these tortures to which political prisoners are subjected and so on, this is only a form of the place that lukashenko directs his energy to all those who er-er dared to er-er speak out against him or all-in-6 some action against him is characteristic of belarusians in general by god mel ot tok of people from belarus has stopped or is it continuing for how long let's say the repressive machine is gaining speed or now let 's say the wheels are on the brakes i'm talking about lithuania and poland, and let's say vilnius, in which i am now, for the last two years , indeed, even in such a way , everyday life has changed noticeably, and

this change is not only related to dozens thousands of ukrainians who were forced to present the er russian war in ukraine er find those who fled, including to lithuania vynyuseno and kashatelno er many thousands of belarusians who found refuge er in belarus or three different demands for the size of the belarusian diaspora, this is the new diaspora that was formed after 2020. well , according to statistics, at least in lithuania, this number reaches about 60,000 people, which is probably not such a large number in the conditions of 10 million belarus.

under the conditions of 3 million lithuanians , this is quite a lot. in the protest in 2020, the restrictions imposed on the issuing of passports at the consular target in belarus, of course, this place carries an obvious complication in life, since they are not these people , they cannot return to belarus. they will be arrested immediately and i seem to be in prison, but on the other hand , as in lithuania, as in other countries, including poland, there is a mechanism that is very understandable administratively , in this way, i wanted these kinds of documents. i can be issued to these people, and therefore, it seems that the main the phases of belarusian migration were still 2021 and 2022. it does not seem that in 2023 the scale of belarus is being played

. first of all, they transferred their own employees to the it company in 2021-2022, i am talking about the largest belarusian players, as it were, or world gaming or flo or different other players, and in this sense it seems that now the number of belarusians living in lithuania and after that poland, but more than me, stabilized ah and probably the only such exception in this plan. these are the belarusians who work in the translogistics sphere. between belarus and lithuania or belarusians in poland, it seems that for them the threat is probably on a smaller scale due to passport restrictions. for me , for many other belarusians, let 's talk about the fact that lithuania, latvia, and estonia have banned the entry of cars into its territory with russian license plates and with the lunsky ministry of the interior, the hall of the car with such license plates will be confiscated, eh

, what we will observe in the near future. how do you think the numbers will be removed? resell what will happen or go on foot not only flew to that side, probably including poland and it seems that in finland if we look at all the countries of the european union that have a land border with russia , a little more than one, but at once, of course, it is worth indicating that the case lithuania is certain exceptions. and this exception is related to the transit of the kaliningrad region, and the conditions of the transits of the kaliningrad region are the subject of an agreement between the european union and the russian federation . they are between lithuania and the russian federation. how long was it one of lithuania's accession to the european union in 2004, so every time when we talk about the transit of some goods or cars only from the leningrad region - this is a separate question, and in this sense , the episode of the summer of

2022 comes to mind immediately eh, you probably forgot the issue of railway transit to the kaliningrad region, there was also an island to be raised at the end of june 2022, but in the end , nothing was resolved, so i honestly doubt that the cars will be confiscated on the border to such a degree, as it was expressed by the minister of internal affairs of the country, but it is obvious that the scale of e-e before the movement of cars with russian registration of the russian federation into the european union will decrease, and the simplest way to finally avoid these restrictions is including e-e question the demand for re-registration of a car, on the other hand, needs to be understood so that the number of schengen tourist visas issued to citizens of russia has significantly decreased, including restrictions that have been in place for more than a year and a half ago, the baltic countries led in relation to the non-admission of russian citizens on the basis of a tourist ticket on

the territory of the station, therefore, this decision complements the decisions that have already been introduced before this , it simply consists in the proportionality of its application, and here, i will be very surprised if it is precisely on such a scale, this decision will be a question that will be discussed in life because we have been seeing for more than a year and a half that the unprecedented scale of the sanctions that the european union has imposed on russia has not been observed. at the same time, there are still a lot of ways to avoid sanctions. you probably remember that in december, kyrgyzstan was able to export 10,000 times more wood in the country to the european union than ever. not because a lot of trees suddenly grew in kyrgyzstan. yes, because it was russian wood and partly belarusian, including that is why i am afraid that the demand for some transit numbers

from some neutral countries or from supposedly neutral countries may be one way to transport such cars, but clearly it will open some of the citizens of the russian federation are visiting the european union, and this completely coincides with the topic of expectations that do not test residents, such as expatriates, as well as poles, and it seems that in finland , therefore, the question is uhu. well, in general, here are some opposition russian, well, russian politicians who are positional to putin including the idea that crossing the border with the european union from russia across the border in one's own vehicle is, let's say, an opportunity for people who run from mobilization, including the criminal prosecution of points in military affairs, in some cases related to the discrediting of the armed forces of the occupiers, eh, so this is almost one of the important routes through which russians crossed the border, and now there are refusals to enter cars with russian license plates in general

er, how do you relate to such an argument, er, and to what extent is there really? here, there can be er, an excuse for the fact that there you are an example, there you are running away from mobilization, yes, and because of this, these countries must be softened in some way this is the legislation, i am not privileged by the fact that, first of all, the team of alexei navalny, he, in the fight against corruption, published such a public statement, they even publicly appealed in writing, really fbk yes, that’s exactly how it is, but together, i honestly don’t see the reason for the investigative connection between the restriction a carload of cars and with the desire to avoid er service, let's tell the defeated forces of the radio federation to be part of the russian military aggression in ukraine er so that i

don't have to er run away from russia putin's regime, but they are sure that i was talking about the car if i was doing it, because it seems to me that if you run , you are most likely trying to find some routes that are not the most obvious. how do you run? you run through armenia, through kyrgyzstan, through kazakhstan . because of something else and the last time i looked at the map and they saw some kind of border between, say, kazakhstan and estonia , well, that's why, most likely, if you run , at some point you inevitably move on a plane, for example, or on someone else is transported, but they are in a car, and here i am not surprised by the fact that the team of oleksiy navalny supported such a step because it seems to me that it should be evaluated first of all as a demand for a demonstration of literacy among other structures that are in opposition to putin's regime conditions of knowledge, many of them are based in other countries of the european union, and in this sense, it seems to me that it is more likely that this is who was the first of the russian

opposition politicians to putin to say такой strongly correct какой попытку ободованирование that to some extent the interests of red russia, well, in this specific question here, i think it is worth evaluating this chuck precisely from such a point of view, they are from the point of view of the relationship between the beh samokrutinsky regime and the opportunity to enter the european union in your car , if you wanted to run away from russia in your car, you had to do it in the last year and a half. the cheapest i think that this is simply worth evaluating in a different context . another question

. it is impossible, in any way, to make odious statements to alexander lukashenko, and to those new erastic pies, they were not polite, and naturally from the point of view of ideology. it is unlikely that alexander lukashenko suddenly became a supporter of chuche ideology therefore, i saw the possibility of a big, cool, honest interaction with the dprk, but in the same sense, this is just such rhetoric from inevitability, a demand to return to the information field. lukashenko differs in that he in every international event of events that have nothing to do with his situation, he tries to find a way to be privy to it, and this can be traced very often in his actions, and he rarely

succeeds, but at the same time, his staff cymization leagues by means of presence in the information field eh and in this sense eh if we look at the map of the international visit and meeting with the leaders of eh different other states that this list is very impressive lukashenko recently, for example, he met with leaders who, from the point of view of the democracy index, are in very similar positions to belarus, and in this sense, we also have some requests for lukashenko to interact, for example, with which countries venezuela in the last decade it is unlikely that we have heard at least any response, although if we remember 15 years ago, 20 years ago, it seems that alexander lukashenko and ugachavis were russian friends on the planet, similar to the interaction of belarus and early long time , let's say earlier, under the leadership of

it seems that lukashenko was also friendly, at least it demonstrates belarusian propaganda and state relations, but lately even the cars of saman , who used to gather in belarus but not on a very large scale, literally a few thousand cars per hour, and even this does not happen. well, that is the dprk in this sense. it is unlikely to become an economic partner in modern belarus in the sphere of the military industrial complex or any other issues. but this is a way that how lukashenko tries to return himself to the information school every time he went to russia right after that something, as it were, here's more, here's a loud methyl event, and i'm here , of course, yes, and this is the skill that lukashenko has been honing very well for the past 29 years, and it seems that he's doing well, even we ourselves are discussing it now

, yes, thank you for joining this discussion, the association of the maximum smilta , an associate analyst at the center for east european studies, joined our broadcast mr. miltov, thank you. well , for the last hour, kateryna derkach was with you, oleksiy gomon, and spoke in particular about what processes are taking place on our borders and not only is there a threat to us , usually from the east, but also in the north, lukashenko still plays along with the russian dictator and even gets involved in the new union that can be formed, which will include russia , the dprk, china, probably and wounds and this is the same new anti-western pole that the secretary of state e.e. blinken talked about in particular when he spoke about the fact that the new world order has already arrived after the cold war, what were the main principles, in particular, about territorial integrity, about the inviolability of borders, he is no longer working and it was vladimir putin who destroyed it with his war against ukraine and this