tv [untitled] September 22, 2023 9:00pm-9:31pm EEST
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[000:00:00;00] i believe and i put an end to this and wish you all good health. take care of yourself and your loved ones. goodbye, group of seven. i welcome you today from ukraine to the studio in london . for the next 15 minutes, we are talking about the visit of volodymyr zelenskyi to the united states, so why does the ukrainian president not volodymyr zelenskyy managed to get the military aid package he was counting on already in canada after difficult negotiations with the us, from where he carries assurances of support for the new aid package, but without the promise of american the parties will provide such long-range missiles as needed for the attack. why the ukrainian president did not get everything washington expected, the analysis of bbc correspondents
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and experts, so after the united states, where zelensky and his wife spent four days, they went to canada with an unannounced visit, the first since the full-scale invasion of russia there he met with canadian prime minister justin trudeau and spoke in parliament, the canadian government assured ukraine that they would support ukraine as long as necessary, so this is not the first time when at the beginning of a full-scale invasion, volodymyr zelenskyy is visiting the united states, and although, as some experts assure, the level of support for ukraine in the states is decreasing , this time the ukrainian president managed to agree on a new military aid package with details from washington. about anti-aircraft defense , which president
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zelenskyy called for, as well as more ammunition, in particular for the powerful himers missile systems more as well as abrams tanks for ground operations in ukraine, which, as far as we know, will arrive from next week, but the package does not include long-range atakamps missiles . president zelensky called for them to be provided. he noted that they will be necessary especially for the intention to return the territory in crimea. so what is this visit to the usa differed from the previous ones and in what atmosphere were the meetings of president zelensky in new york and washington , public correspondent olena kurenkova shares her observations volodymyr zelenskyy ended his visit to the united states of america, saturated and generally pale. first, two and a half days in new york to participate in the 88th session of the un general assembly and the meeting of the security council . for the ukrainian side, the meeting was
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an opportunity to discuss the most urgent and exciting issues for ukraine. united efforts for defense support in the face of russian aggression, as well as mir zelenskyi's formula for reforming the un security council . in relation to the latter, not only the argument for why russia does not have a place in the un security council, but also to the substantive proposal of how to reform this main and decision-making body in the un, namely to expand its composition and change the approach to the right of veto. in addition, at the assembly , zelenskyi had a number of bilateral meetings with the leaders of albania, chile, romania, bulgaria , germany, and a particularly long-awaited meeting with the president of brazil, lulu and yes salt, who previously expressed controversial ideas for a peaceful resolution of the war, later in washington met with the president of the united states, joe biden, at the white house during of a full-scale invasion of russia. the main topics of the meeting, as zelenskyi later said according to its results, and we listened to this statement live in the white house, were the strengthening of the defense of the support of the united states, in particular in the aspect of air defense, the peace formula , the export of ukrainian grain, the president also
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announced that ukraine agreed on the joint production of weapons with by the united states of america, but the details of the agreement have not yet been disclosed, in addition, the president of the united states, joe biden, announced a new package of armed aid to ukraine in the amount of 325 million dollars, among its main items are missiles for air defense systems, additional ammunition for 155 mm hummers, artillery shells, anti-tank systems, javelin. will renew attacks on ukrainian critical infrastructure . was announced, but regarding the american m1 tanks, biden promised that they would be in ukraine according to plan in the coming weeks. in washington , president zelensky had other formats for articulating the most important needs of ukraine in congress and the pentagon and at the same time for thanking the americans for their support, such as a speech at the national archives of the united states
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the next stop on president zelenskyi's tour of the united states is canada, and james water house correspondents are closely following the course of the ukrainian president's visits in kyiv. says that the aid package received is not at all what volodymyr zelensky hoped for. president zelensky is warmly received in canada. this is another loyal ally who has provided military support in the country, as well as a large ukrainian community, but i think we can see that the leader of ukraine has come to a rather difficult diplomatic period. he has just visited the united states, where he was also warmly welcomed by joe biden, but there were also meetings behind closed doors, in particular, with the participation of republican politicians, among whom skepticism about the so-called unlimited check is growing for ukraine, they are also interested in what a ukrainian victory might look like. and although
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the reception is warm, the president in zelenskyi has to fight for a lot, just look at the latest military package, it is not 24 billion including state-of-the-art missiles, which he hoped for, but much less, approximately 350 million, which includes ammunition. so this is not what he wanted, if we speak more broadly, this is a kind of test. ukraine has always said that it will not hurry with a counteroffensive, not least after losing many fighters and equipment back in june, when it began, but i think we are beginning to see a direct connection between the advancement on the battlefield and the growth of political skepticism. this is an incredibly difficult period, especially after the fallout with another ally poland over grain, so president zelensky will try to reverse this trend in canada somewhat. the united states one of the biggest allies of ukraine, especially
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in terms of of financial support since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, the united states has sent over $110 billion in aid to ukraine. this is much more than any single country. almost $50 billion was spent on military aid over 28 billion to support ukraine's economy and over 13 billion for humanitarian aid, the white house announced that more than 90% of the allocated funds had been spent and now the administration is asking congress for an additional $24 billion in aid, but the latest survey shows that support for further aid to ukraine has fallen in american society, but after meetings in the white house, both presidents made statements that were intended to demonstrate the full support of the united states, our regular dialogue is proof that
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our countries are true allies and strategic friends, therefore we greatly appreciate the vital assistance that the united states provides to ukraine in the fight against russian terror, together with our partners and allies, the american people are determined to make sure that we do everything possible so that the world supports us and this is our main goal and more about the results of volodymyr zelenskyi's visit, let's talk with pyotr burkovsky, a political scientist, an analyst of the democratic initiatives fund. i congratulate you. we just heard the statement of presidents biden and zelenskyi about the immutability of support, but the change in tone and the truth of kyiv. how do you assess the results of the visit to the usa was very important because it happened after a bowl of information scandals, that is , after the pentagon leaks, after a misunderstanding that was in connection with leaks of information about
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what biden's attitude was to zelensky in 2021 well, in the end, after such a shower of publications by the american brest about the fact that, er , the ukrainian offensive, the ukrainian counteroffensive is too slow, his response was quite critical, such harsh statements of the ukrainian leadership and the ukrainian command, what did they say on the video game, this is not a hollywood movie, this is a real war. i think that blink's visit , which happened, was unplanned, after that, zelenskyi's visit was already planned - it was a good opportunity for both sides not only to express yes such frank evaluations of each other's policies and to agree on common goals, and as we see, this is a statement about some nuances, but the only common goal was declared - it is the defeat of the russian federation, but
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zelenskyi is on the international stage for the first time said that if ukraine does not receive aid, we will lose the war during the visit . do you think that the ukrainian side has done enough to maintain the support of ukraine by the states? i think that it is enough. from the side of the congress and the senate dub e-e in the matter of approving budget expenditures for the defense of ukraine was sounded another thesis that was not publicly stated that in if russia wins, not only the united states will lose, europe and the united states can to get a new war already in the middle east, i apologize in the far east, and this tells us, the negotiations tell us about this , the negotiations between putin and how, that is , if ukraine loses, putin can choose the next vector of attack, and it can be on
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europe, it can be south korea and south korea play a big role in the strategy of the united states to contain china, so i think there were enough arguments to convince the americans of the need for further assistance to ukraine, and this year zelensky will come to the united states for the third time, where in fact the election campaign and the primaries have started, how will the elections in the usa affect aid to ukraine in the future, unfortunately, we have to admit that our ukrainian issue has already become one of the items on the agenda of the american elections , and here it is important for us not to get involved in ukraine . thank you, we seem to have lost touch. it was petro burkovsky, an analyst at the democratic
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initiatives foundation, and today, ukrainian forces launched a missile attack on the headquarters of the russian black sea fleet in occupied sevastopol. one russian serviceman died, then they clarified that he went missing, they confirmed the damage to the headquarters building and complained that it is a historical object and a source of the ukrainian air force and informed the bbc that the headquarters was attacked by cruise missiles from the shadow side, the ukrainian command says about the breakthrough of the first line of defense of russia in the south with the help of a map of satellite images , led places, analyzes progress on the front line , a large counteroffensive of ukraine in the south is moving forward, but how far
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have the ukrainian troops reached, or will they be able to to break through the russian defense in order to turn the tide of this war. let us remind you that the dark red zone is the territory occupied by russian troops. the purple zone is the land that ukrainian forces won back . the russian defense covers two large lines each with several rows of obstacles. this is a trench , anti-tank fortifications, mini- fields . artillery ukrainian forces had to spend most of the last three months making their way through changing fields such as this one you can see here a hidden mine it is circled here in red and ukrainian troops do this on foot sometimes at night and often also under fire and progress is slow, they also have to pass through dragon's teeth, they are designed to block tanks and armored vehicles but we have confirmed facts that ukrainian forces have already passed the first line of defense of russia, we have determined the geolocation in this area, you can see the troops are outside the first line of russian defense, but so far it is only
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ukrainian infantry, these yellow dots on the map show where the ukrainian troops managed to get in, which we do not see. yes, these are large of ukrainian armored formations breaking through the defense line and this is because they are vulnerable to russian mines drones and anti-tank missiles like this burning british challenger-2 and all this time russia is sending reinforcements this drone footage was taken by a russian airborne unit we have geo-located this area nearby from the village of verbove, but it is worth remembering that this is a battlefield of dynamos, it is constantly changing , although on the map it looks like ukraine has not progressed much in the last three months but it is steadily exhausting the russian defense. and that's where they need it. for today, look for more stories on our website. on our social media pages, we are on the air on
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, our first conversationalist on this broadcast is mykhailo samus, military expert, director of nyugoleksiiishnyi turkevich, expert center for the study of the army, conversion and disarmament , congratulations, mr. mykhailo, i congratulate you, we hear you but we don't see like that oh now we hear i hope and we see good health mr. mykhailo thank you for finding it for us listen to this the first time the new minister of defense mr. merov came to rammstein we can somehow evaluate the first visit the first negotiations the first conversation this is success - this is the norm is this shortcomings and what can we say about it, well, judging by the results, it is a success because, uh , even the fact that today, uh, according to the results of the visit of president zelensky to the united states , uh, after all, biden promised to provide us with rocket attacks in the near future er well
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and all other aid packages, this means that , in principle , the process continues, the rammstein format works and, of course, this can be called inertia, which was created by minister reznikov, but the new minister of defense pierov, in principle, proposed or announced a new approach to the implementation of the rammstein format, he stated that there was another coalition was created , the so-called kaypi library alition, which is focused precisely on the creation of the armed forces of ukraine, the defense forces of ukraine, that is, the combat capabilities of the armed forces. i want to note that precisely western doctrine does not in general, they focus on the type of ticket, not on the number of tanks or mobilized soldiers, no one focuses on this at all, they focus on capability, i.e. what can the armed forces specifically, er, affect on
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the battlefield. well, for example, f16 is one set of caps with tom shadow , who is not the only one today. by the way, the headquarters of the black sea fleet were struck by other captains who cannot only be imagined, for example, he is mobilized soldiers. this is completely different . the new minister of defense announced that rammstein will continue to work in five main clusters : aviation, armored vehicles, military, naval equipment, missile technology. well, in other directions, this means that the reformatting of this rammstein is continuing and it is turning into more of a let's say that work specifically to provide ukraine with new combat capabilities that we will need, of course, in the 24th year
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, this is before the occupation of crimea, this is the completion of the de-occupation of other territories. read and when they say a limited amount and how much is needed in general well, here i am sitting, i am not an expert, i do not understand anything, but , relatively speaking, it is necessary to damage or completely disable the kerch bridge, something is also needed, yes, for this, you do not need 50 or 100 for you need 3 5 10 15 what is a small number i can this is a military secret i don't ask how many will be there 12 or 14 but what is a small number well i would definitely like a million to let it go once and that 's it all all the russians died on that's all the war is over, but what is so small, what is so big, what numbers can we talk about? well, here it is an interesting story, that is, at first and in the press. in general , there were comments during zelenskyi’s visit to the united states that in fact there will be no atakams, that is, there will be no amitactics, and there will be no misales
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uh, for ukraine, but then after the actual meeting between zelenskyi and biden, maybe some more discussion work was carried out, and so on, it was announced about a small amount, after that it was clarified that it would be cluster , that is, cluster uh, munitions, then warheads for these missiles, there will be not a single warhead, but a warhead with cluster munitions, this means that this missile will be able to cover large areas, and it is well, from the point of view of ukraine, the advancing side of the armed forces of ukraine - this is very, very important, and i think that it is just possible that we are talking about some kind of trial batch, how will everything go when the ukrainians learn to use it. by the way, the same missiles are used from himars and mls installations , that is, there is no need to deliver new installations , only these own missiles must be delivered
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put them on the same hymars and the same hymars crews well, i think after a certain small training there actually on the application to all rockets, the whole thing is indicated and so on, they will already be used, that is, it is quite fast here and it can be delivered exactly this small number of missiles is possible in order to see how it will go. and after that there will be more parties about how much we need. now germany is trying to transfer its air-based cruise missiles , there are discussions there because it turned out that all of germany they want to keep 400 of these missiles for themselves, and the ukrainians say give us a couple of hundred. and here it turns out that there is a british stompshed, there is a french stingray, there will be german taurus and there will be american attacks, and the first three are air-based missiles that we use from our su-24m aircraft and attacks, all land-based missiles, operational-tactical complexes. the more the better, we
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actually need hundreds of such missiles to destroy, for example, all the important targets of the occupation in crimea. and it is necessary to destroy the bases of the naval depot airfields, logistics headquarters in crimea, there are quite a lot of such objects and places. this crimean place is not the only such objects that will have to be destroyed in order to ensure, firstly , the blockade of crimea, and secondly, such conditions are created when the contingent of the russian occupation who will remain there, he will not be able to fight against our ground forces, which will, in principle, come to clear the territory already after launching all these missile and, i hope, air strikes with the help of our su-24m and plus possibly f16, but indicate , in principle, when you you name it the number of weapons of different countries, and each army works with its own weapons, there, french, german, british, and all of a sudden, in the ukrainian army
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, all of this is found, as you know, in the constructor , how easy is it to logistically manage such a large number of various weapons, which have different characteristics, different types computer control different approaches maybe there are different moments at the time of launch when there how much there is an interval between for between preparation for launch launch well, it's like having different devices there, of course if so just to say which ones have their own instructions for use, but if you mix up the instructions, it just won’t fly there , how does it happen, let’s say there is coordination of all these weapons, and within the framework of one military unit, within the framework of the same armed forces well, here is actually a paradox these are the most advanced missile systems of the taurus tom shadow, er, the scalp is actually a storchad scalp, er, they are very similar, that is, which is the european mbda company and which
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has absorbed, let’s say, the former e divisions or the former independent company of great britain france, germany, italy, etc. and in this european company mbd there are different directions, for example, there is the british mbidiy , there is the french nba, there is mbd, which works in italy and so on, therefore, in principle, as far as the guard and scalt are concerned, there are no problems here, because they are very they are similar there, only a certain cut taurus is also a development of the same product let’s say so , but with its own features, but what is the paradox here, again, these air -launched missiles are, er, they are actually programmed by the missile itself, that is, why did it become possible to use this missile from the soviet su-24m aircraft is that it is not integrated into the aircraft, but is actually programmed on the ground, that is, the entire indication is made on the ground, that is, the targets that will be hit and
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the pilot just needs to launch it. and it is already on its own er, you know the target and it is possible to illuminate it, of course, er , from airplanes, satellites, from drones, but actually the pilot of the plane has to go to a certain border and apply it , but the biggest problem with logistics , again, we have armed equipment, er, well, the military they call themselves a zoo when there is one there are soviet tanks, there are soviet tanks, but there are polish modifications, there are czech modifications, we even have slovenian modifications of soviet tanks, and there are also leopards. now more abrams will come. and there are also light armored vehicles. we already have more than a dozen types, that is, this is really not a problem. imagine there is a person who is responsible in one military unit for equipment, it is necessary to organize not only its use, repair , provision of spare parts, and this is all in combat conditions
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. i've been asking you such a theoretical question lately, maybe the last week or so, i've been observing that all the experts and ukrainians, well, westerners, it's clear and very openly, very directly , they tell the plans. then now we don't have recruiting jobs now it's now it's such openness everything says that we are absolutely convinced that is, we are the general staff we that the russians no longer have enough strength to concentrate where there there where they would like and therefore we can tell where we are going
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we are advancing, it will not change anything on the part of the russians, they are not capable of hindering the ukrainian advance, your version, and to be honest, i am also against such openness, because well , in any case, if you imagine that now we are in the very units that are preparing another operation with storming the positions, and here on tv they say that they are sitting now and preparing this operation and will go in the same direction, look. we will now show it live on the air. of course, this is information for the russians, for the russian artillery, which can us cover i would not like to be there now with such coverage of the event, but on the other hand, it could really mean that, in principle , the situation is so clear, it seems that there are , for example, two main active directions of our offensive, this is the bakhmut direction, where ukrainian troops are now crossing the railway, again, we we know in detail that there is a railway between gorlivka and bakhmut, and right now, literally at this very moment
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, ukrainian troops are storming this railway. these lines are sorovitina and all this is actually happening online, this can be another explanation that the ukrainian troops are actually operating in other directions at this moment, but informational exposure is being opened . these directions are so that the russians and everyone pay attention to this place. we cannot have such an explanation because i wouldn't want to just really, well, believe that it's really the idea of the general staff. it's on these two directions, and we're saying live where our guys are going to go now, it's wrong from the point of view of military science and of logic and it could just be that mr. luzhny is fooling gerasimova talking about the main blow there and in fact, all this happened several times during the war, i saw it when everyone starts shouting in unison, let's run to the left , and for luzhny, he advances to the right, and the russians believe what's on the left well, in short
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, yes, mykhailo samus. thank you, a military expert from dire network expert of the army research center for armament conversion was in touch with us. and now we will move elegantly to the city of new york, where the session of the general the assembly, where we are waiting for our zigreisenberg, professor of yursky university, congratulations, mr. ihor. congratulations to all the viewers, and thank you, let's start with the results of the american visit of the president of ukraine, on the one hand , a meeting with the president of the united states, a speech at a session of the un general assembly, a visit to the congress, on the other hand, frankly, he the speaker of the house of representatives refused to speak at the congress at the session of the congress . before this meeting with zelenskyi, the speaker of the house of representatives spoke quite strongly about the fact that the congress would
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ask him for a report on how the american the money was included, how to sum up the results of this trip, was it successful or not? i think it was successful and the same. by the way, those who comment on the united states, let's say in the media, are considered the command of nato forces in europe well, let the trip go well because the president of ukraine had the opportunity to communicate with the president of the united states, and in the white house it is the united states in the administration, it was so demonstratively done that the meeting took place outside the general assembly in new york, namely, officially in the white house, he met with almost the entire composition of the senate , that is, all the senators who wanted to meet with him - this is the vast majority, except for a few ultra-right senators there, they met with him and he spoke before them and they he was asked questions, he answered them , it is very important that he meets with
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