[000:00:00;00] there are other things, there are things that are very important, first of all, the war and the whole bunch of factions, like and now there is a certain thing. probably, there is a certain thing . there is a certain thing. but with a friend, it is possible to approach this a little differently, the problem is primarily a problem of interests, it is a problem of different interests here, differences of interests between poland and ukraine, if in certain areas, i mean primarily the sphere of security or the military sphere, if in this one, in this sphere here if there are no questions here

there are no doubts, no disagreements, almost no, er, maybe we are 99%, i would say that in this english security sphere , our interests are almost identical, and so who will be with us for a very, very long time, you must also understand that not you in all areas of our relations, our cooperation, not for all issues, it will always be so that our interests will be so and so, and we must keep in mind that it will be so and things will be as we will be, the topic will be discussed and maybe we will be even so, that is, it was very beautiful that quartz, well, this one, the question is, how is it, how is it now, if i’m sick, help, a portion, or polish for myself, for myself , state information about germany, well, it’s been there for a very long time, it’s been 8 years, let’s say since 2015, but here until very, very much

different ones from the polish side have been declared as well as necessary. it is also not very pleasant for the germans to read or listen to this. of course, it was also possible and must be fought in a different way . we must keep in mind that there will be more of his similarities to us and we must look for them. and you know that it is best not to - not for certain politicians within the framework of comments in the social media in the media, there is a little bit of this type of er-e chami a e tsepa to improve communication between governments and between er-e ministries between people who are responsible for this area so that mr. dario , what else do i have? the topic of the difficulty of translation, when it was said that you used the word drowner, which means that then in ukraine it was so controversially perceived in us that ukraine is

a drowner, which means that it is necessary and somehow you understand, i had the impression that something was not completed there by the presidential administration or translators at all, because on the one hand it is absolutely logical, even when we fly on a plane, we are all told first you dress and then dress the children, well, in the event of some kind of drowning, it is equally obvious that when someone drowns, you have to somehow be careful so that the two of you don't sink, but here i had thoughts that it would be possible to find a better analogy, what do you say, let's start with mr. miroslav , i want a drowned man, i want to be cool, we'll sort it out, and i was impressed because it was definitely not diplomatically

sophisticated. he said this is exactly this version, we understand what he wanted to say , what the person wanted to say, but it seems to me that this analogy was well, this is not ideal, to put it mildly, and he wanted to say what he wanted to say, that is, the president confirmed what he wanted to say today in the interview to one of the polish conservative publications, with whom he said the very following phrase, which is actually a very strong phrase in the mouth of the president, that porsche will not allow polish grain into its territory due to the fact that it is self-sufficient in terms of self-sufficiency, that is, in fact, this the position is such that we close our market is in principle not permissible according to the legislation of the european union, this is already a position here, not a difficulty in translation. because when you translate exactly what the president said

to the drowning people, it means that the polish bocidiozyom means that, in essence, this person is already lost, and her arguments should not be paid attention to at all, we have our own interests, that's why we need to leave this jerk a little aside, let him say what he wants well, that's why president zelensky's reaction was this, but i would i didn't really want to talk about e-rhetoric and so on, see the statement of prime minister morawiecki from the president in finer polish . the world media did not understand what they wanted to hear . became the hero of all the world's media, including the arab e-e honey is with the arab countries of the state that did the most to help ukraine. everyone saw last year the huge help

of simple advice to ukrainians, a touching door opened their hearts in their apartments and became an example to the whole world for all of europe , today they say that she is stopping the supply of weapons all over the world, this is what she writes. in mind, but it went like this, or we interpret the state , we take it very seriously, or no. i consider this my last remark, when the losses to the prestige of poland that occurred during the last days are simply colossal, and they do not concern relations with ukraine, but they relate to poland's presence in international politics in general, unfortunately further already you have literally half a minute because we don't have the next guests, sorry, sorry, please, i didn't want to give, but they told me that i don't have

the right myroslav the czech, polish politician , public figure, journalist, deputy, this he is in his second and third term and you are giving him a serniak , polish expert on international issues , head of the center for poland in ukraine, thank you for the rest. in the caucasus, we are in touch and we will talk, congratulations. good afternoon. hello. well, this is what the european parliament can actually do in the south caucasus . let it happen. this is also a very good question. there is a new status quo and it arises simply in principle. in this status, there is real international participation at the moment . well, first of all, the european parliament will not be able to do anything

. the councils of the european union for that from the state and the commission and the union and the parliament, i always see the role of the parliament tom in the fact that we somehow push the state so that they would move faster and better. accepted the application and after that only the commission began to develop something, the soviet began to do something, what now about azerbaijan, what the parliament says, we say that the violation of international law, the use of force and the suffering of the civilian population never it is permissible and with this, azerbaijan violates its obligations and international law

, and we also say that now the relations that the european union has with azerbaijan are great. it consumes , but this is a matter in principle. what can be a state that conducts itself like this? how do you show your program ? can such a state be a partner of the euro that we propose to accept sanctions and propose to review relations , we will discuss this at the beginning of october at the previous meeting it seems to me that the most important question today is what is the situation after the integration of this region into azerbaijan for citizens or

ex-citizens or have i already confused armenian i completely agree with the origin of the armenians and theirs, because the bank has already blocked the loshin corridor when aid was no longer available to the armenians living in nagorno-karabakh, it was already a very difficult situation there, then if we still include the statements of president aliyev, where he says that armenians must or to leave or take the citizenship of azerbaijan, of course it is wrong and i think there will be another huge disaster and therefore our parliament is also able to karabakh to the international representatives of international organizations is that until now they are not allowed

there, there is temporary access only to the red cross, others can’t go there , they can’t help, they can’t help. the european union must now clearly and strongly support the example of prime minister pashinin , because now he is alone. russia abandoned him a long time ago during the second nagorno-karabakh . they don't show that they want to cooperate more. well, for example, at least they passed a military exercise with the united states, with the military , who are recognized as partners of armenia, this is a positive sign , they were trained a year ago. together with the germans, this is a positive sign. well, the armenians now have many steps that they should not take in reality in order to show, not only in words but in reality, that they want

better relations and they see their future in zapade eto and the organs of the baron organization of this customs union with belarus with russia they still have a few such red flags you simply the european union cannot cooperate with them it hurts and suffers and marina look but in general everything that we see in the south caucasus says that in politics in the international politics in world politics, power remains very important, and it can be a determining factor, yes, at the beginning of the 90s , the power was in the country of the armenians, and this is the result. and now the power is in the country of the azerbaijanis plus the turks, minus russia, and here is the picture when all these diplomacy, talks, parliaments, governments, i have the impression that until it appears, i don't know the armed forces of nato or the armed forces of the united nations. well, here i almost do not believe, nothing will change

, it will just do, will do azerbaijan for what they want to do. ah, armenians, what they can do is their own, and this is, as it were, the realities of today's 21st century . unfortunately, in my opinion, the aggression of russia against the fas against your state shows very clearly where it is headed today. and the security council, and it’s very painful to watch, armenia, i completely agree with you that the european union has done more, but they sent their observers there, exactly the same as the ones we elected to the border of georgia with abkhazia from south ossetia, so there seem to be observers there but azerbaijan does not recognize them

. and if azerbaijan is not recognized, and not only on the territory of armenia, the leg is powerless and there is no political will yet, but as they very correctly said at the highest level of political will, these situations will not change. gives advice to the un secretary on issues of destruction. we meet twice an hour. there are five permanent members of soviet security and 15 more experts, and i see what is going on there . i don't see there reviews of the events that are taking place now, and in ukraine there is no, no, there is no such expansion of support with african states from latin america. and that's why what your president is doing now is that he is turning to the global south and to gazelle and klaatinskaya america is very correct because, unfortunately, not the whole world sees russian aggression, as the visit of the european union

was too much and here again. well, it was created so that there would be peace in the world, so that there would be security and in this sense he failed the security council a long time ago, it should be reformed , well. in this situation, the leading concept is how much the international community can now prevent new conflicts in the south caucasus, because it is clear that ambitions can grow as strength increases, and here the whole question is whether the main players will now also follow the line of consideration for each other's souvenirs, or just like yesterday, armenia was not ready to respect the sovereign territorial integrity of azerbaijan. in a situation where azerbaijan operates on its internationally recognized territory but this is not forever

, you may be entitled to this internationally recognized territory of azerbaijan well, how this territory was conquered by azerbaijan wrongly according to international law, and they did not take care of negotiations themselves. i understand that it is very annoying to hold negotiations for 30 years and do not get any results. anyway , war is not permissible under any conditions, and it was a huge mistake on the part of azerbaijan, which will be seen later because i agree with you, there are no guarantees here . it seems that the minsk four works, but it also works, sometimes it does not work. there is no trust. azerbaijan is not very good. trusts the french. who is included in this four in the united states

? it will also help the states of the south caucasus because i look at it and it makes me very sad. what is happening in georgia, yes they were, they were the first state of the eastern partnership, they made reforms they were ready for anything that would join the european union, well now , unfortunately, they are not lagging behind. and if i look at the things that the government does, i don't understand them. it's not normal to accept political saigas. impeachment of the president is a law that copies the russian squad on the creation of natures. it's wrong. well, unfortunately, i see that the south caucasus today is becoming an increasingly complex and complex region, but as long as the people want democracy, we

will support it, i say how and how representatives of the truth, because we would not be there, we are now, if they did not support us, then until democratic reforms are made, i will not go , therefore , of course, we will fully support them. 2008 and there is no real support and we are afraid that this war will happen again and then those in power may find themselves in power . these are the forces that turn out to be, by the way , a very important question for us here because you already understand that the ukrainian society after the war will also be traumatized by this experience only to a hundredfold extent than the georgian one. i agree with you. this is how the european union reacted in 2008. this is wrong, and you and i talked a lot about it in moscow in 2014. again, the european union did not react adequately for some time, some

minsk peace agreements were accepted, but nothing was done so that you simply stopped russia completely. so yes, i am sure that the georgian society is certainly not traumatized in them, how much 20% of their territory is occupied today, but on the other hand , they do not accept araflot, they accept russian refugees, they accept not only refugees, but they do not accept businessmen who are now going from tbilisi to batumi and here to georgia with their own finances that there are a lot of complex layers here, and it is very difficult to understand the georgian language. i just know that 80% of the georgian people want georgia to join the european union, this is a huge percentage. and that's why it's hard for me to understand why

the state and government do not do what their people ask or what their people want . why is such a halt in the democratic development of georgia the last time? the predecessor of the council of the european union, well, the highest official, so who in general can deal with such issues of international international relations, they came out of this treaty, well , it’s simple, well, you open it every month he reads the newspaper and dries up. what do they want to do there again , or are they making an example of georgia ? this is the proposal of the european commission in the future, ukraine, moldova and georgia, so here

i am, well, i am very pessimistic about myself , because there is a high probability that they will lag behind ukraine and moldova. people suffer, i opened a window for them, if they don't use this window now , nobody knows when it's possible to say something like that again . well, you say that eight percent want georgians to europe and the european union and nato, but why do they vote for people for parties that clearly do not want to join europe and when today i ask georgians in the programs and outside the programs, they will return to the next elections , too, there will be 50 for 50

, there will be fifty-fifty. then absurd at all. i don’t think it’s the election of the georgian people here. i can tell you exactly that. i’m also surprised when people say one thing and then go and choose someone else in other states where it’s needed. by this handsome expert who watched the elections to the parliament, which were held just once on election day, we did not see many violations, many violations well, it is clear that the situation is now very polarized, and the media support the opposition or uh, the government, that is, preparations for new elections are already underway there, and this situation is now becoming literally every week, every day, everything is more complicated , more complicated, more complicated, exactly the same way you talk to your vendors, again, i choose the normal thing, people in this society do not

support it as much as they come to the elections, why do they vote for him? well, this is a question i can't answer, but it should be answered by people who are much smarter than us. news well, how badly do the european union and i respond to the european parliament, as if we want them to start a war with russia , that's why we want them not to open the second front - that's not true, that's not true we never want to start a war or force someone to start a war but here's why- he says now, they are also preparing the organization for the fact that the european union is unfair, if they don't accept us, it's not our fault.

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today and in the future. during all the meetings we held, we clearly stated that we will be with ukraine as long as it is necessary . and today we strengthen our promise with our further support , we will provide support to ukraine for the following years and assure that ukraine will have the foreseeable assistance that it will need , a new package of military assistance for the next five years in the total amount of 650 million dollars that this package also includes 50 and 50 transports that will carry out the evacuation, we will also be within the framework

of the f16 joint coalition, we will provide pilot training and also provide ukraine with high-precision drones that have modern cameras, and we will also support ukraine in its transition to nato standards the minister confirmed that canada will make a financial contribution to the consortium chaired by great britain for the provision of air defense systems for ukraine, and the stability of ukraine is crucial, but their economy needs support so that they can withstand this tough fight , therefore canada understands what help can be for ukraine , so that it continues to provide services to

its people, and only we will be with ukraine until it gets a victory and it will be a prosperous country . i confirm our macroeconomic support that we will provide to ukraine in 2024. therefore, we have signed a free trade agreement that supports the economic development of ukraine and also provides canadian companies in fact, it is a privilege to create additional jobs, and that is why today we will go to toronto to meet with the leaders of the business world and we will talk about the efforts that canada can make in order to strengthen the efforts of ukrainians, we will continue take joint actions so that russia really pays for

the damage canada has caused, it will cooperate with gaben partners and involve experts who will provide advice on the freezing and use of frozen russian assets as reparations for ukraine we are also adding an additional 63 individuals and legal entities to our sanctions lists, all of which ukrainian society needs support. we will also support civil society, we will help ukrainian public organizations in order to ensure the resilience of ukrainian

society, as well as the reconstruction of local infrastructure, as well as other aspects that suffer from violence and putin, and canada now also aims to support the creation of the holodomor museum in ukraine, as well as to help all ukrainians who suffered we will also provide funding for the provision of mental health services, because it is really very important that citizens have mental well-being, even those who have been affected by hostilities, of course, you cannot start reconstruction until there is peace, and that is why, as i already said today in the parliament, god how i said during the meeting of the un security council that this peace should not be a fake peace, and there cannot be a compromise with the aggressor, we are talking

about a lasting peace that will respect the un charter and international law in order to restore territorial integrity of ukraine long live zelensky today president zelensky spoke to the parliament and tonight he will speak to canadians, including a-and addressing ukrainian canadians, such a meeting will be held in toronto, because there are millions of ukrainians in the ukrainian diaspora, and that is why our ties with ukraine are exceptional we support ukraine and our support is unique, which comes from all corners of our society, from the diaspora, from charitable organizations, from the government, because