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[000:00:00;00] iryna koval and this is the summary of the week on the espresso news channel. the summary of the week every saturday at 9:00 p.m. the most espresso war in ukraine is the main topic for ukrainians. victory and loss , analysis and forecasts, politics and geopolitics , serhii rudenko and the guests of his program will talk about all this, people who have information and public opinion is formed by people who defend ukraine and create the future right now, the main and interesting thing in the verdict program is serhiy rudenko from
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monday to friday at 20:00, repeat at 12:10 glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program my name is serhiy rudenko i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health today in the program smoke covers the crimea the armed forces of ukraine hit the headquarters of the russian fleet in sevastopol the de-occupation of the peninsula is approaching a new aid package joint production of weapons and not only what zelensky biden talked about in washington ukraine is still without attacks what is preventing the usa will transfer long-range missiles, how to find an understanding, whether ukraine and poland will be able to get out of the food conflict without spoiling good
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relations, we will talk about this and other things today for the next hour today our guests will be politician, diplomat volodymyr grisko and military expert from israel david sharp. however, before starting a big conversation about the internal and foreign policy of ukraine, i suggest you watch how today the armed forces of ukraine attacked the headquarters of the black sea fleet of the russian federation in sevastopol , explosions, disruptions, explosions began in the center the city of naivazovsky is burning right next to us
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, rockets are rushing by, this is sevastopol . i think this is the sound of anti-aircraft fire , this is already the third strike of the armed forces of ukraine on the occupied crimean peninsula during last week, the first strike was on the command post near sevastopol, the second strike was on the sakakh military airfield. well, the third strike was on the headquarters of the black sea fleet of the russian federation. friends, for those who are currently watching us on youtube, we offer a survey
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. today we ask you about this, do you believe in the existence of good russians, yes, no, and your option. please write in the comments on our contact politician diplomat minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-2009 volodymyr hryskov p volodymyr i congratulate you i hope to see you on our broadcast . i congratulate you, mr. serhiy, and wish you good health, and i wish the same dear to all of ours. the president is biden and today zelenskyi is in canada, we are waiting for his speech in the canadian parliament, negotiations with the three to let's start with the un general assembly, because the speech of our president
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was announced long ago at the un general assembly and the speech consisted of two parts, the first before the un general assembly, where world leaders gathered, and the second at the un security council . zelensky proposed to reform the un regarding the use of the veto right so that it is not used by the aggressor . the right to veto the decision of the security council. well, zelenskyi proposed it. and what happens next, that is, to what extent is what zelenskyi proposes is possible and how far can it be implemented or reform the un according to the plan that mr. zelensky suggests, well, mr. serhiy, here is the question in the plan that was proposed by president zelensky or anyone else , well, he proposed his version of reforming the un, the european union, his version, er,
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verbox, his version, this, this, nothing about anything, to be honest , -he does not say because there are many of them in the plan and they have been reforming the un for almost 50 years. that is, it is a process that everyone likes and everyone wants to end it with something. well, now the truth is that the situation is completely different than when it was just talk. covers the actual and drags the participants e more and more and more countries, because i think that everyone understands the responsibility for the outcome of this war, so i think that this topic will continue, but in the form in which it is now being sold, it cannot have
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practical results, because there is no mechanism by which these proposals can be implemented, which is a great pity for us, that is, it is possible to propose , it is possible to talk about plans, but unfortunately, it is not possible to bring this social denominator, so i think that these are political statements. political so to speak ideas, but no more. now it is necessary to say something that not only russia does not want to be deprived of the right to this , the united states of america does not want it, france does not want it, britain does not want it, so why think that this will automatically remove all the problems? it's also quite naive here, the organization as it is now is impossible to change here
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. probably, at some stage we will come to the point that it will simply have to be refounded, because what we have today is not suitable for advertising. vladimir, you are talking about possible re-establishment of the united nations e-e but the predecessor of the league of nations before ceasing its activities and turning into the organization of the united nations e-e they took a very important step they expelled the soviet union from the league of nations for aggression against finland for the war 39-40 years, but in the current situation, as the head of the european council, char-michel, said about russia, the un , the criminal is in this very room, and we are all witnesses to the co-criminals or criminals, lavrov,
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nebenzia, people who are part of the team the president putin, who has a warrant issued by the international criminal court, why are they not equated with the criminal putin, and why are the doors opened to them, eh, in the organization of the united nations, they give the floor, eh, this is a correct question, mr. serhiy, eh , and we need to find answers to them, but uh, not in kyiv, uh , i think that the west does not yet want uh, decisive steps in the direction of uh , well, what you just said. security of the un, although such a mechanism exists, we already talked about it
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they have repeatedly said that it is better not to recognize the authority of the russian delegation, it will not be allowed to work at the un, but this decision has not yet found a practical solution. that is, unfortunately, we have to say that they probably still want to listen to this property carried by the russian delegation, believing that this site does not need to be changed in any way for the time being, and that it should actually be destroyed, therefore, decisions are not made , just as decisions are not made on many other important international issues, although all they understand that russia is the aggressor, that it has violated all new international laws, but for the most part, there is no political will, so it seems to me
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that it is the lack of political will that what is happening in ukraine concerns all of us. this was announced by the minister of foreign affairs in france, catherine kolon, at the un general assembly. we will hear what she said . what is happening in ukraine affects all of us. if we allow our common principles to be ignored, they will be ignored everywhere. this act of aggression will be rewarded, there will be others in the same place or elsewhere. russian aggressive war is also an attack on the most vulnerable countries, it imposes on all of us today the duty of solidarity against this background . lavrov, who arrived at the un general assembly on the sidelines of the un general assembly, meets with the head of megathe money and tells
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er about what er he has. well, what is meant is that lavrov has his own vision of the situation around the zaporizhzhia npp and as quoted further by the news agencies of the er aggressor state money er we are considering the possibility of a visit to zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, which depends on specific circumstances , there are a lot of questions about lavrov's participation in the un general assembly, is it possible to solve this issue with lavrov, not by giving him visas to the united states of america, this is the same question once the question of whether he will be given a visa to the united states of america or not was discussed for a long time. why does the united states of america not act as a locomotive to introduce personal sanctions against the same lavrov? well
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, i am showing this continuation of our previous the press about the fact that in america the time has probably not yet come when it is given in such an even simpler way, although it seems to me that it was more elegant to simply recognize the authority of the declaration of russia as invalid and then the entire russian delegation, including lavrov and all the others , simply couldn't participate in the work of genasom, they went absolutely there to the istriler and looked at this skyscraper in which all these meetings actually take place because ... americans believe that the door to contacts with russia should be kept open and the reasons actually explain why they tolerate these propagandists, because
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the present ministry of foreign affairs of russia is called the ministry of propaganda. and we know that nazi propaganda in english was also condemned at the nuremberg trials. so i think that one way or another, this sad fate awaits lavrov and all his employees in the ministry of propaganda of russia , well, unfortunately, the time for this has not yet come, mr. volodymyr zelenskyi arrived at the congress of the united states of america yesterday, but the speaker of the house of representatives, joseph mccarthy, said about denying zelensky the opportunity to speak before the members of the chamber, the representatives say who is zelensky, he is no longer the president of the united states of america and i do not have to promise him anything, he told mccarthy , this is a republic, and part of the right wing and the republican party of the united states
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of america believe that the states give there is too much aid for ukraine, although already after the speeches in the e-e congress with the speaker of the house of representatives and the leaders of both parties e-e it became known that the congress after all supports the allocation of additional funding for ukraine in the amount of usd 24 billion, this visit is different from zelensky's previous visits, and we can see that it is obviously influenced by the election campaign, which has not yet officially started, as i understand it, but it is already underway in the united states of america, as far as definitely the influence of that company that is actually already going although it has not been announced well, but i will tell you honestly that they do not connect any politician who talks
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about the prince to statements of this kind bad education. do you understand that it is actually absolutely stupid to say that by allocating 24 billion to ukraine, out of more than 800, i think sixty billion that go to american defense, americans will be greatly affected by these tens of billions the ukrainian armed forces actually broke the backbone of the russian so-called second army of the world, and i think that if this senator was constantly explained with figures and parks in his hands that this is in the interests of the united states of america, then he would not have said such a stupid thing to the member well but
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you see, here you just need daily work in order to convince some too hot american senators, champions, that ukraine protects , including the americans, but with the help of those financial and other resources that we have transmits transmits to the united states of america yesterday zelensky met with biden and biden announced new military aid to zelensky in the amount of 325 million dollars on september 30 the budget year of the united states of america ends and this is part of the 2023 budget year at the same time biden promised the first american ambrance tanks will be in ukraine next week, or he said in a few days, and literally before the broadcast, information appeared that biden informed zelensky that the united states
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of america is sending a small number of long-range attack missiles to ukraine , the truth of official statements on this matter at the moment no, jack sullivan spoke yesterday about the fact that it is not the right time yet, and yet , considering the help that the united states of america is currently providing and the relatively restrained policy of the president of the united states of america regarding the provision of long-range missiles what what can you say that the united states of america is still trying not to accelerate the ukrainian counteroffensive because it is clear that the united states of america has enough resources to speed up and speed up the finalization of the russian-ukrainian war or is that right? unfortunately, we do not have reliable information that er controls
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these or other high-ranking officials in the usa. what are the most convincing arguments for them at the moment? but it seems to me that er the information you just said about uh, the fact that i will still get the lightest amount of ukraine, uh, uh, this is, well, almost an objective range, they talked about it in addition to the traditional overbite there, probably uh, it seems to me that in this context, uh, it played a certain certain the role of this is precisely the pre-election situation when er, well, you know what people are doing to annoy this er, very hot part of the republicans who shout that nothing should be given to ukraine, er, with such a decision, i think they decided to take a softer path, er, to announce
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about the fact that the support provided for these 300 million dollars will be later 24 billion dollars have been taken into account for aid to ukraine, and already later, in this more calm and gentle version , at least a certain number of 10-15-20 missiles will certainly not be resolved. which one do we need to decide why? because i am referring to the opinion of our military here, we need er, in total, about 500 such missiles, which means that they should be all the combined centers of america, because we also have other partners who have such missiles and we know who they are, two countries have already provided us
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they are france and britain, and now if the usa and germany do it, then in total we can count on exactly this number, why do we have our hands? well, because the use of these missiles is at key points that need to be destroyed. as it happened today with the strain of the so-called black sea fleet, these measures will be able to disrupt moscow's plans and force it, including the black sea fleet , to either go to novorossiysk or cease its existence. it will be about the key points that are placed on today on the crimean peninsula. so this is really a solution to the problem, but here again we return to the concept of political
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will, so there is something that does not allow the americans to take this very decisive step today, and i think that it is the same er. well, the threat of the so-called escalation which well, they continue to trick us in moscow by threatening nuclear weapons, well, this is the only thing that actually seems to me to be the reason for such a slow delivery of the necessary weapons to us . volodymyr zelenskyi also spoke about the results of the meeting with biden, let's listen to what
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said the president of ukraine , there is a new defense package, artillery, projectiles, engineering means and a long-term agreement. of the peoples of ukraine will be able to produce, in particular , ppu and joseph biden with the announcement of the first abrams in ukraine next week, the first american abrams tanks will be delivered to ukraine we are also focused on strengthening ukraine's air defense capacity to protect the critical infrastructure that provides heat and light during the coldest and darkest days of the year, this includes providing a second battery of the hawks air defense system with constant deliveries of additional batteries and other systems every month during the winter, as well as interceptor installations to protect ukrainian
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elevators, hospitals, schools and power plants this will help save the lives of ukrainians at the session of the un general assembly zelenskyy said about the fact that we know that there are some behind-the-scenes negotiations with the russian federation, who did he have in mind, can the united states of america communicate with each other and discuss what is happening in ukraine and somehow articulate the situation to each other or explain what will happen next, we we we we to the point that countries communicate and discuss certain issues without asking the permission of those countries or discuss such
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problems as they want, that is, it is in principle maybe, but for some reason it seems to me that this is clearly not about the united states americans here today, i once again looked at and smiled at the face of the minister of foreign affairs of hungary, who was firmly shaking the hand of that russian propagandist number one , with whom i do not completely rule out that they sat and discussed things that are absolutely anti-ukrainian ukrainian anti-ukrainian direction and discussed how else hungary can put wheels in ukraine uh by declaring its neutrality there and the like and so on
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, that is, there are definitely such possibilities. they look at theirs strategically, it seems to me that, in principle , it cannot be like this before. yes, earlier, when the situation was not so critical, there were conversations, and we knew about it and we know, but now it is necessary it should be divided into two parts : the world that defends democracy and the world that is fighting for democracy . it seems to me that such ad hoc negotiations about the fate of ukraine are absolutely impossible, mr. volodymyr, against the background of this week's foreign policy events , the verbal sparring between
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warsaw and kyiv between the leaders of the states between the prime ministers regarding ukrainian grain and how poland, poland , slovakia and hungary should act, they believe that ukrainian grain should not go to these countries because they say it contradicts with all their wishes and all their expectations, although the decision of the european commission on this matter is in principle no one is claiming the entire polish market or the slovak market. how do you assess what is happening now between poland and ukraine ? because there are too many different statements too many accusations, a lot of sharp words were said. it was this week that what the two sides should do in this situation is clear that ukraine
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says that we will go to the court of the world trade organization and defend our right, which is completely legal, and the poles say, well, listen . we have farmers and well they don't say that they have elections soon, but they also care about getting the ruling parties or getting the support of farmers in the next parliamentary elections in poland. i think that the rightists are not pro-ukrainian grain, it's about and uh, well, look, there are three weeks left until what a polish pro-government politician will allow himself to say that ukrainians are in principle right, they act according to the rules , we ourselves told them that it is impossible to spontaneously change
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trade relations as someone wants, if you want something, please inform the other party in advance, sit down you start working at the negotiating table, that is, you understand from a formal point of view , the truth is definitely on our side, and more than that. such and such well, you have to invent very much and have a huge fantasy about such a thing to come, but uh, in the same way, and on our part, we don't need to do things that uh, well, actually, uh, well, they play, again, not in our favor, don't we understand why question these strategic eyes, this is really the right word, the relationship between ukraine and poland
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is to play for the benefit of those who sit in the kremlin and rejoice when ukrainians and poles quarrel with each other , so it seems to me that now there is only one thing to do calm down stop making statements and sit down at the negotiating table, and it seems to me that from what we have heard already after all the statements , it seems to me that it is inadequate from both sides that there are already correct signals regarding the fact that the parties will find an understanding and reject these absolutely secondary things to the side and they will look at what is called the basic strategy of their relations , because in a different way, i repeat again, i will buy champagne in the kremlin, rubbing my hands and
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