[000:00:00;00] we are moving from the south caucasus to the north caucasus, precisely before echkeria, which is now called chechnya-chechnya, anzor maskhanov, the son of the ex-president of the republic of ichkeria , reminds me of it and i switch to the russian language. as i understand it, because panzor does not understand ukrainian , and nothing, i think the audience here understands russian anger language hello, nice to see you thank you for finding time for us , this is an important conversation for ukrainians ukrainians how do you know they are fighting with the russians and everything that is happening in russia is important to us and chechnya is part of it россии, well, it's so peculiar, but still, my first one can be the most important question of censorship, who will decide, no matter what, but

kadyrov is not in order, i will not take it now to speculate that a patient is healthy than a patient is than a healthy one, but it is definitely not in order, the appearance is not ideal, soft speaking, rumors are coming in, and let's assume that kadyrov is not in which city , they will decide who will be after kadyrov in the city of grozny or in the city of moscow, this is important , it will show what forces exist in the chechen elites, and will the current chechens allow the so-called elite interference of the russian federation, i.e. putin, who will say you will have ivanov , or vice versa, the chechen will say no

. we will have petrov. this is the time for the occupied part of our territory . i would like to say right away that never in history was it decided in grozny who will be the next traitor of the chechen people. it was always decided in the moscow kremlin. during the first russian chechen war , and in the kremer in the kremlin it was decided who would be their puppet they killed themselves, and instead of him, they again decided in the kremlin to put, er, this kadyrov of today, the decision always comes to the kremlin for us chechens, he

is nobody, in fact , nobody, er. - eh in something kadyrov was somehow supported by people who to this day come and procured domestic goods, that is, you are trying to avoid mobilization. here, they are telling the truth . what is happening in the occupied territories ? fruit, oh, he really turned into fruit, this is a traitor to the participation people, people are telling the truth, i haven’t seen anyone who supports him. here ’s another question, review, look at it, and there’s such a phrase that’s so popular when they talk about chechnya in ukraine, in kiev, in lviv, we are working now that in chechnya, at least half

of kadyrov's blood is blood, no one for ukrainians explains it is blood revenge, that is, this is such a personal enemy, no, this is such an abstract enemy, and this is a personal enemy, and these people say no , we do not want to live with him let's put it this way, the question is, half of them or more than half of kadyrov's blood relatives. what will happen if nikodyrova dies? 20% of the technical puppets that are there, uh, they are created by the hand of moscow, if there is no putin , this is the roof of the movement and the entire system of movement is not built by these special services of russia, that is, by putin, the whole system will collapse and already uh

, there will be nothing in the coding kryvomu can support it to be safe and as you said , it will start with bloodsuckers. yes, indeed, there are a lot of krovniks. an example of an example of a traitor to the chechen people. we have never had anything like this happen today in our occupied homeland. this is cruelty - this is treachery - this is treachery, that is, this is the only example. kadyrovtsy has never manifested itself in our history, this is what i will say briefly. well, imagine yourself in the yard

of your house, and kadyrov beats and kills people, eh, this is not a prison. you say that people are being killed in prisons in russian prisons, but here, right in kadyrov's yard, people were being killed and put up such a picture, eh, young chechen guys drink, eh , and stand around this eh price, his family is standing, that is, he is watching normally uh, people are being shot down and killed there, uh, they buried people alive. here, chechens were given as tigers to lions, heritages, that is, who have their own zoo, review, see an important question, very important. i think we discussed what will happen if

it is not coded, what will happen if it is not putin and if there is no putin, nikodyrova, chechnya will leave russia and the composition of the russian federation, these are the ideas of dudaev, even of your father, they are as if alive in chechen chechen, in the chechen people, they want to continue to think , we cannot live with these guys from moscow , and we let's create a separate country or some kind of federation, the north caucasian peoples can be a great federation , it doesn't matter, these ideas continue, of course, this idea is here in our heart, and we are waiting for that day. the idea of ​​our homeland has not died and will never die, and we will not forget what was done to us

until today, such a difficult situation. the leaders, all the leaders were killed, were killed by the russian federation during these last hands . the soldiers , this is what they wanted, what they dreamed of, what they were striving for. composition of this empire, of this barbarian country, we have always occupied us, this is always a state that is a colony of its own, and they call it chechnya, in fact, this is the chechen republic, these are the ideas that our leader adhered to, this is to build their own free independent the chechen state and we have done it. thank you very much . normaskhanov, the son of the ex-president of the republic of ichkeria, slana maskhanov, was with us. i

will allow myself to say a few words more literally because then there will be a full interview. almost 20 minutes, here it is a-a warrior a-a oh my god, they are telling me that my native language is still my native language, and that’s how i start translating from ukrainian to russian , it’s written in ukrainian, and i still speak zanzor, so i’m an officer of the national guard battalion from the call sign is a song from a centurion of the maidan to an officer, that is, from the 13th year he was on the river, still at the center of ukrainian ukrainian and ukrainian-russian events, a volunteer in the very hell in luhansk region in donetsk region and served under

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herovital energy once a day there are 10% discounts in pharmacies what did military -historical reconstruction do? i bathe in history . i was the head of the rivne branch of the society for the search of victims. they were shot in the reconstruction by an artistic documentary game films. well, in this plan, that is, life was very colorful , you must be like a story, it is clear why everything is happening, that in the 13th year they give for me

at all . was attentive and from 1990 to 1991, ukraine became independent. i see very clearly that russian television says something bad about ukraine or nothing, and studying history it just all came together. the same island of tuzla is there, do you remember it it was just a reaction then was beaten in us on on on that's all it went on and then i got into patriotic youth organizations , the youth nationalist congress, if we take this as the beginning of the volunteer movement and the maidan was organized by people who passed the patriotic organizations only when we have plast organizations , alliance mmk kryzub, well, even well, there are a lot of such of organizations there, sokil there , zhuravno, that is, it was not random people, the leaders of the maidans, hundreds of them, it was not random, nor were there random people at the beginning of the voluntary movement

, it seemed to everyone, well, these people are already enough for that we lived and breathed ukraine for tens of years, it was a beautiful romantic time, we knew that we were still fighting for a european country, and in principle, i am not ashamed of any of them on the maidan, on february 20, i became a centurion of the 35th volyn sich hundred, the centurion inscribed itself into history heroic deed and after february 20, after the maidan shooting well, everything came to an end, it became obvious that the annexation of crimea began, and for me, as a historian, as a person who understood what was happening, everything fell into place and the enemy was obvious, only they could be stopped weapons, we then began to demand from the leadership there, the new leadership of the maidan and ukraine, what should a volunteer battalion do and we will go to defend crimea, but you understand

the statist approach, it is not like that, they took us to the initial center of petrivtsi, and at the base of the internal troops, they recreated the national they restored the national guard, because the previous national guard, which was withered, well, well, kuchma canceled it. it had very little, great popularity among the peoples, it was pro-ukrainian. it was very clear that it was prestigious to serve in to the national guard, we understand that sooner or later they will be for the people, not for his regime, and he destroyed it because little by little he made the internal troops obedient. the crimean lecture had already begun, he gathered who can defend ukraine with weapons, that's exactly who turned out to be 5,000 bayonets for all of ukraine, and it was mainly the internal troops who broke the shutter and said that we were ready, and it was, well, first of all

, they were not disbanded like the armed forces and secondly, well i don't know if they felt guilt or the voice of blood or simply their eyes were opened, probably on the basis of internal waxes and on the basis of our volunteer battalion of hundreds of hundreds of self-defense maidan, we created our first reserve second reserve battalion , recreated the national guard and thus we became the first volunteer battalion of the national guard restored that prestigious restoration of the national guard, you served under the leadership of kulchytskyi, can you tell me what it was like ? what kind of officer is this? here even during the confrontation on the maidan, we already knew then that there were generals who were looking for a compromise, he was not afraid to go directly to us in the top and with us

. well, you have a dialogue. come directly to us to talk that i am also for ukraine, it’s just not possible. i’m a state scandinavian. and you want to break it roughly, but we say that we, too , have no choice because you don’t give us, well, that is, the dialogue was going on. that is, we already knew about the existence of confrontation between maidanites and internal ones the troops were quite serious, there was blood between us, but well, i am a nationalist and for me ukraine is above all else, that is, ambition is everything, understanding the state is the most important thing, and the people, when we came , we saw the internal troops at the base in petrivtsi, there are internal troops written on the backs, well, militia. we are so shocked by this gender, we are so over there, we don’t need you, give us weapons and we are going to crimea and all of us , well, we were so shocked. hands behind

ukraine and i am ready to go with my mother. well, i am a general, i am a professional . everything everything because ukraine above all is me from him why is honey like that well, in principle well, there were what boiled over there, who turned around and left but ukraine above all in whose soul it was, the majority remained and we believed him , he says, i will be with you personally to study and with i will personally go with you, which was in principle done by him. he very quickly gained authority because of the misunderstanding between the maidan residents and his riders, he was there even if there was a fight, they were two there plus and they would pull everything , that is, you know when the slavic blockade began. the combat general went around the roadblocks, and from the roadblock to the roadblock, it was necessary to shoot through the road , it would have been on helicopters. well, to fly there . that is, it was brave, and we saw such

care at the time. and when he, well, when he died we are so orphans speak together for a dream dreams for freedom we went on the run and you went happily, be it and you went so that the red bayonet would not be returned bloody road there are graves in the cities when the full-scale invasion began where were you careful to get on the heart it was covered with blood when it was the siege of kyiv well, ukraine is big, ukraine is the only one , we had to sit under the raisins near popasnaya and hold the defense there, one volunteer came up to me.

some volunteers accepted he says what do you want, guys, are the lyshkiv battalion doing pockets here, we are the ukrainian battalion, we will also be here izyum popasno, he is here in sviatohirsk well, tatyanut, he is this sahara , many believed that izyum is such an impregnable fortress of the occupiers in kharkiv oblast that they, what are they from there and not to be knocked out for nothing. so you fought in pijum, can you tell how difficult it was there or vice versa. it was all an illusion, a myth , but it says that the beginning of the war was , well, standard. in general, they are still where they are successful. they take a quantitative, well, tens of times quantitative advantage, and until we are under the raisin , well, until the middle, until the end of march , we just have aviation, well, with 500 kg, 200 kg bombs, we

just, well, we have mastics to bombylo and it destroyed everything there, for example, i see it as a part of yatskivka village, some kind of poorer part of the village of yaska, a plane flew in, dropping 3,500 kg of bombs and seven 200 kg pieces, well, the interior of kurig's legs. captive he goes there to one soldier he says, give me the icons, we searched it, give me the icon, we will stop you, you need the icons. well, i say, you will destroy the church , and the village will be completely leveled , what kind of kong did you go to in your head? by april 10, we already had a lot of czechoslovak pipes there, they blew weakly there for 1.5 km, but we drove the planes six kilometers up and there are already on sviatohirsk beech trees began to shoot them at a high altitude because at a high altitude and we everyone was raised by these pipes and never got hit

but we drove them up and the buks started and in the afternoon 2-3 planes, two or three planes, well, it started and caught them, they ran here along the oskol reservoir, there after a day they caught these pilots, then well, it so happened that we were still on the same rock, we took the jump remained in a bag in the cauldron there, and the commander of the crows, he just did a miracle that i was imprisoned there. we went out under the dome of the city, that is, the game was like that, we shot in this dome and came out with the entourage. can you imagine how you and the planner so that 80 people turned out like that well, the raven is a cool commander, well, match him later, uh, assistant, that is, we have clearly left and already reached the line of sosnove and yarova studs here for a month, well, they repelled infantry attacks there, they were groping there, flogging constantly, well, the advantage there is serious, there is a disturbing wagon , this is well this is still from the first world war, probably left on june 1, they made a massive offensive, well, we are there, sosnov and yarova , it just fell under the barrage of fire, well, it

is, well, from five or six points at the same time from five in the morning to five in the evening, continuous artillery here such a stuffed animal is everywhere there, in every house, this is my shit, there is a second decommunized and a third decommunized, all decommunization was successful, and they have a place in history. the 81st brigade was also forced to retreat and blew up the bridge, and we already occupied it piece by piece, and when we left, we held it . by the way, what if will be full-scale, somewhere they are being transported , there were helicopters all the time, but there were enough of us up there, they flew in there, the landing party landed , we then ran and chased them there, and

there was always the cooperation of this monastery for the monastery. with this, how did the intelligence work against us, it's clear, well, no matter who said anything , there would be ukrainian accents, the structure, they set people up against us, it's terrible, i meet a family, and you can eat, cook, and they say, well, we have a car, we have one there in the dnipro somewhere the family can leave there, i’m cool, leave. when you shoot us at the roadblock and i say that they i don’t understand at first i thought it was a joke and then you see they seriously understand and they are sitting here somewhere in the catacombs they are fed with this national guard it was not easy to kill if you leave here, i already have the documents, i couldn’t take it anymore, i’m pulling out the documents, we’re showing that well , as i say, i’m the captain of the national guard, they have such a call sign, this one, i’m telling you, i’m giving you the passwords , just take the children, i’ll just pop out through serpentine, here is serpentine mink, we constantly slip through the pantin , and i will tell you that one blockade will not meet you, blockade, as in bzs and

pereslavyansk and if you say me there , you will say the password, everything well, i know that you are there , don't even ask, because there will be people traveling with children. do you understand this and they jumped out. this family on my second day. well, there i was on the field of miracles. on the second day, i had 8-7 the little commander who gives permission to leave so that he would not be shot and this is not a joke. you understand that it was not it's so funny if you don't want to cry and this well, it's true, that is, what's inside there, what kind of anti-ukrainian atmosphere is there, that's the story, i can tell a lot about this place. how do you feel about the fact that the moscow patriarchate is still sitting here? and here in a monument stands 100 m from this lavra this tnr do you understand this, this symbolizes victory over us and this is the disgrace with this, this is artem , uh, he is not even artem

, his name is not even that, he was engaged in experimentation, he went to wealthy peasants there between bakhmut and popasna and stupidly engaged in combing here his base was because of that, he was looted here, he is the organizer of the holodomor of 21-22, he is one of the organizers of the holodomor of 21-22 under the guise of a red gang, and when he was caught by the haidamaks of bakhmut and got there , they lost him there for because of what he was engaged in agro-running, organized the holodomor, and having such a majestic monument in such a sacred city, this mother has a piece of victory over us all the time to boast. it is wrong, you know that the war started from this monastery here, and on april 13, 2014, 39 green men came here disguised with the head of their rifles, here came nelya shtepa, chief of police, chief of the sbu, the whole elite betrayed the traitorous elite

, undressed, they took off, they took off their turbans, took off the green, all the uniforms, weapons, and from here on the 14th they went, they will announce the dpr, they went there , everything was paid for, because the war left slavyansk, you understand, everything has personal protection, it consisted of the spiritual scenarios of anarchs and the novels of the svyatogorsk lavra, completely down to the last person, it was not very big , but it was not eto byly u us uh, one of the subordinates of the slavic brigades, the novice command of all-takovsky, i know that our soldiers sat down very well on these mountains and very kindly below you are the rashists who put their combat equipment all over the world , well, you understand. already us

there was no such thing as constant skirmishes, skirmishes, er. well, i thought that in principle they would go in an assault. well, i, er, as soldiers of the defense line. well, i don’t know . more than that . i think that there will be an assault and an attack. i was already thinking about where it is possible to get entrenched like that and leave. well, somehow, all the same, well, understanding that there will be another barrage of fire, but he didn't come. i didn't know that the hymers had already appeared, that three axes had appeared, we didn't know that, i was sitting here on the mountain somehow it started to be strange like that well i think they already knew what three-by-three axes were, she was there, there was a bz, and it went on and on and on , they shot at the american cannon three times in a day , that’s all, and then it goes on for days without stopping. it will continue. and how about us? well, after the news, you already say that kharkiv drove there and when they drove only kupyan there and well

, the order came to us to prepare for an assault, and we will not give it in the same place. demosplav means were sent by ivantsov and the string was pulled. i was beaten there by a steamer, well, but what kind of fight i was not strong enough to fight already. well, they became the second way, that is, the sweep went, you know, in general, war is there, the death of a soldier is there, cowardice is there. fear, er, when you spend a long time, you simply understand that fear just mixes and war itself chooses for me there, da vinci he died there he comes out of the water from which of the strongest special operations passes through the encirclement and fire passes and kills accidental arrival, that is, i know such people , gifted, a man of war, she knew everything she breathed, she knew where to stop, bang, until it goes again, that is, you know, dig out an eye all professionals breathes living war and kills. accidental flight there, for example, or what, that is, the war itself chooses what

to hit you in the leg, or puts you alive, or puts you, well, for victory, and the conclusion is definitely one well, we do not belong to ourselves, and we do not lie in our future. therefore, everything in in the hands of god and we are simply afraid because you are just doing your job and he will choose us himself i congratulate you this is freedom life on radio freedom we have already come to the change itself the following shots may shock you news from the scene of events live and kamikaze drones political analysis objectively and meaningfully there is no political season exclusive interviews reports from the hottest points of the front freedom life frankly and impartially draw

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