[000:00:00;00] and here are the cases and simply pretending that nothing happened, that is, it looks like this. by the way, i wanted to ask what the meetings that were held with the president of zelensky hmm what happened in today's meeting with the head of sudan maybarkhana, moreover , she spoke absolutely frankly that they talked about wagner it was said officially with the commander of the armed forces, well, with the command or the armed forces, but this is essentially the military leadership of sudan, so that's what i 'm saying. in principle, this is what happened after the cnn television company reported that it was ukrainian special operation to eliminate the wagnerites in sudan ukraine can really carry out such special operations abroad and fight russia in africa no, well, if we are talking about military development, then

it is in accordance with its statutory obligations and everything else. it can to operate abroad, yes, we know how ukrainian intelligence was quite effective in afghanistan . why can’t it operate in sudan? well, it’s quite possible and it’s an interesting new experience , which, to be honest, hasn’t happened in a long, long time, that is maybe it never happened, that is, ukraine did not conduct any combat operations in africa, if this is true, then we can say that we started to follow the heels of the russians in those countries , and wagner's also fell into the small, it is also interesting why it fell, well, that is, there is a very there are many such interesting coincidences of details that indicate that yes, we are starting to work a little in africa as a counterbalance. and we can say that the ukrainian armed forces have more opportunities than, say, the french. well, i

even have opportunities, not military, but political that is, they can afford what the french cannot afford , let's say in africa. i don't understand very well what is meant, that is, it is difficult for the french to shoot at the wagnerites. well , that 's simple. that everything is in order, and how did the meeting with the prime minister of israel end with anything concrete at all? it's a big mystery. honestly, i'll say that because i absolutely didn't understand all these meetings with the zrolyatians, they end with big mysteries in a hurry. well, in principle we did our part, if we had done our part. that is, we conducted the intercession, the hasidim arrived in everything normal, that is, now it is a step behind israel . well, maybe they think that they have already fulfilled what they have already done because they stopped not

letting ukrainians into ben-gurion, well, it is quite possible, very it is difficult to speak here, of course you can use the goldemeier formula here well, but i am not that, but it is uh in this situation i don’t know how to speak with the bible provided and if i were in zelenskyi’s place, i wouldn’t know, well, that is, what about when everything has already been said many times repeated, and there is israel's position, which so far, well, it is clear that it does not change somehow. in general, they will comment, i don't know , and zelensky, natalia zelensky, all these quiet talks , walks, no comments, no such ideas. well, maybe in fact there were no comments even in the media, as it often happens the israeli press is reporting something there, we haven't seen anything, although there when it comes to contacts there with saudi arabia

or with someone else, there are a million assumptions , even if they said two words no , you know, there is usually such a thing here when they say what is this so much for the mysterious things that were discussed, it is still not possible to even do it, er, report about it, we are observing the situation, but they say that nesterny can be a mediator if there is a peace process . do you believe in this? clearly stated that we will not have intermediaries, at least as of now, we have too many intermediaries who want to be thank you mr. igor igor semelo , director of the center for middle eastern studies, we will take a break literally for a few minutes, do not

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forecasts in the project informational marathon with vitaly portnikov every sunday at 20:10 on espresso, dear friends, we are returning to avatar and in fact, while we were on a break , mr. vitaly and i were thinking about what to start, and looking at the comments that are now a podeter , our viewers are still arguing about poland who is to blame for what, who is not to blame, how to talk to the poles, how not to talk to the poles , uh, well, of course, even during the week, even on facebook, if you look at mr. vitaly, i honestly saw for the first time criticisms about the fact that portnikov always plays into zelenskyi's hands. when they don't like the position yesterday, yesterday, poroshenko, today, zelenskyi, the day before yesterday , it doesn't matter because you understand , it does matter. will not be able to attack, remember, as

a result, people who believed so much in the number there are 73%. they woke up from rocket attacks , but now 73% of cossacks there believe that russia will not attack them, the day will come when they will wake up from reality, this can also happen in their lives, so i'm honestly worried about what people there think about themselves , i think, and i'm worried about facts, but we have to deal with a simple thing, we want to be part of the european union, it's not an easy way to to become part of the european union, we signed the association agreement, our polish friends, as well as our slovak friends, all other friends were ardent supporters of this agreement, the association agreement provides for customs duties and quotas for ukrainian agricultural products, we went to these the decision is precisely because we want to become members of the european union in the future and become part of the common market that no one set me any quotas for a moment and we

agreed that this agreement is a transitional period during which our neighbors will agree to certain norms of future life will prepare for ukrainian mesh products on the market, and that is why we sell more to the poorest countries in the world , mostly to the global south, and not to europe, say, where we could successfully compete with poland or portugal conditional because we are also a very serious agricultural country, unfortunately because there is nothing good in the economy here , neither for poland nor for us, it is better for you to be a high-tech country. it could happen in 10 or 15 years, in 30 years we became members of the european union and it was somehow harmonized, but then the war began, the war began when ukraine

became absolutely er harsh er to destroy our economy, our neighbors lobbied for a solution about removing from us all restrictions on the supply of products that were stipulated in the association agreement. this was the initiative of warsaw, prague, and budapest. they all convinced the european commission to do this in order to save our economy, and that is why we now exist in the economic sense of the regime of a member state of the european union, at the same time, most of our economy has already been destroyed almost completely, and i think that agriculture can also expect the same fate in the coming years, because we see that russia has closed ukrainian ports. even if we

let's make some alternative corridor - it's not a very large volume even if we cover all of poland with our grain and destroy polish agriculture, it's not the same volume well, i'm joking, i'll never do that, because it's clear that poland will defend its market well, in any case, it doesn't solve anything, but one way or another, it's all in all a certain amount of money that goes to our budget. and by the way, i want to remind the dear viewers that the armed forces of ukraine have money from our budget all all all money received the ukrainian military is money from the state budget of ukraine, our sponsors, allies who give us money, do not give a penny to the armed forces of ukraine, they give a penny to social welfare so that ukrainians survive, and all that is given to the army is what we earn, we will not be anything we will not earn money for the army, we will simply lose this war and simply be a part of the russian federation, then the russian federation will sell our grain from the russian federation and i will not ask poland, i will

not sell to the polish market, if it will be easier for the poles and we we know that every cut of money in the ukrainian state budget is someone's death, or the death of your relative, or the death of your brother, or the death of your husband, or you just have to know for sure that something hasn't been bought , something hasn't been completed, some military hospital hasn't been created, and i absolutely agree with mr. valery, what is the need to have a coalition, that we joined nato, but somehow we have to live up to it? well, i would like people to live up to that, so that donatan would enter a territory in which there will be no men. well, it 's that simple, that's it. but that's the way it is. it's just that we understood what the taxes of the ukrainian agrosect are, because we like to talk about baryg, about the funders, the pragga corporation of poland, small farmers who pay ukrainians pennies for strawberries, they are wonderful people, we know

about their strength, i told you, i don’t argue , they are strong, the electorate, so you have to protect them, not our agricultural holdings, but unfortunately for taxes, the ukrainian budgets go from these agricultural holdings, even if you forget about farmers, and from polish strawberry farmers , taxes go to the polish budget, that's it it's a nuisance, well, it's not much because they pay a little there and ukrainians working in poland will tell you that they adhere to it, let's say their salary without any taxes, just like zlotys. this is my problem, prime minister marovetskyi, what does he have in terms of fiscal policy, let him decide it and tell the voters, not me, but in any case , he will determine it. metallurgy, do you remember that there is nothing? you have started to sell your grain, i.e. it went in transit to poland to other

countries, but some of it was bought. such as any country that is a member of the european union, and here the election campaign began and the confederation of independent poland began to say and what is this, and the polish capabilities were afraid that this confederation would take away from him votes and, god forbid, they will lose power or may enter this confederation, breath, all politics will fly to hell. they began to think about what to do, and it must be said that we went to meet them and they were thinking of other countries of central europe at the negotiating table, and i remember that the president zelenskyi went to poland, talked about it with the president before the prime minister of moravia, the results of these victories were not so great for us , we agreed that there will be restrictions until

september 15. until september 15, there will be restrictions. but after this time, poland and other countries have to prepare for this possible volumes of ukrainian grain and after which the restrictions are canceled and we live the way they wanted when they proposed to cancel the restrictions it was not us it was what they wanted it came arrived we continue even almost until september 15 the president of the russian federation vladimir vladimirovych putin speaks with his pompous appearance and says that russia is withdrawing from the black sea grain initiative, which, in my opinion, should have been done by the polish voltaire myst-marovetsky, he should have picked up the phone, nothing would have happened to him and to call the prime minister of ukraine and say, you know, russia is withdrawing from the black sea grain initiative and this means that our market may receive additional volumes of grain that we did not agree on, we are afraid of this all the more if

it happens before the elections, we will lose power , let's sell consultations let's continue these restrictions together, we will go to the european commission with a request to extend these restrictions there until november 15, so that if we have such an article by january 1 , we will determine for two or three months there for two or there we will agree with you from the european commission on the volumes with which you can sell more, let's solve this issue, what does prime minister marovetskyi say? he is not behaving like a prime minister, like a rallying politician . he goes to a rally and says poland demands an extension of the restrictions. and if the european commission does not extend the restrictions, we will lead them. unilaterally call, but they didn't call, i heard that it is interesting to prevent him from winning the election, he is not really a party of law and justice, led by mr. kachynskyi, mr. moravetskyi, mr. er duda , and indirectly, he is also the president of this

party she is simply throwing everything under the train of these elections, including the interests of ukraine , unfortunately, this is more simple , we only know about the numbers of what is happening in poland right now, i don't even want to eat breakfast in a terrible way , what does this pre-election company look like when the polish minister of defense takes a map on which is shown and the operation that nato considered as possible before buchi every year that russia attacks nato countries and it is a well-known story that russia attacks the criminal nato countries retreat there to well where where where where where to warsaw where to riga where they are retreating to vilnius, they are holding the defense until the main parts of nato are pulled up and counterattacking russia . this was the strategy of the warlords, i.e. when they saw what happened in buchi, the nato member states said no, we will not retreat anywhere because, well, it is

clear why we we will keep the defense on the borders, no matter what it is worth, in order not to let them into our territory, because they are barbarians , they will simply kill civilians, and we cannot allow that. well, let the minister of defense ply show these maps and say you understand here, i wanted to give half of poland to russia. well, this is more brutal than the history of the grain, what is the goal? and this is the minister of defense , this is not some journalist of some right-wing radical publication, and not the leader of the confederation of independent poland, it simply failed, but the prime minister did well the prime minister of poland announced this, then it means the polish government. by the way, what slovaks are flying into the hungarians? we also have to remember that the slovaks will do it out of their pre-election interests in the hungarian government. it is done as usual. it is clear what why it is doing this

viktor robert needs to be explained. i think once again they are making this decision. what does ukraine do? ukraine is submitting to arbitration at the world trade organization. why, because if the euro in kyiv, the european commission canceled restrictions on the import of our products, and foreign restrictions are adopted in the member states of the european union, this is a violation of legislative well, by and large, we apply trade norms not so much even to poland , slovakia and hungary as to the european union, because these decisions violate the decision of the european union and thus the european commission has to decide what to do or to sue us, but this is a losing process because she herself canceled the restrictions, but she is in favor of accepting our lawsuit, agreeing with it, that is , being on our side, but then taking all this money from poland, slovakia and hungary , poland, slovakia and hungary understand very well that they will lose this story, they will lose this

arbitration in court, lose the european union itself , because any representative of the world organization, you removed the restrictions and then they banned access to their products, why and how could this happen, because we need to understand again poland, slovakia and hungary are not an independent economic organism, we are because we are not members of the european union, we can ban the delivery of polish products to us. there will be even the world trade organization , we have the right, today we have one restriction, tomorrow we will have another peace, as valery rightly said, he is no one's ally, and they delegated their powers to the european commission when they joined the european union, they have no right because if they want, they must first leave the european union, and then they can all completely close their market from any products to ours , which is in german completely, but while they are in

the european union, they must fulfill these obligations, especially since they themselves initiated them, they themselves offered to on september 15, to do such a thing ourselves. it was their proposal, they canceled it themselves and it looks very funny. honestly, because that's why . by the way, we have already agreed with slovakia because slovakia understands that if it goes further , it can simply lose more money. than a slovak farmer will earn, well, that is, this is a compromise solution. i think that we also spend from him, but that is how it should be between the union and its neighbors, we will lose something and they will lose something, but as a result, slovakia will not pay as much money in fines as it paid as a result of the loss of process a we will be able to supply our task to the slovak market at some point. i hope that

there will be the same agreement with poland, or after , i don't know, before the elections, they will have enough common sense, but it must be such an agreement that would allow poland to fulfill our obligations to the european union and we were allowed to sell grain but together with under would not have put polish farmers in a tragic situation whose tragic situation is still compounded by the fact that restrictions were introduced until september 15, if poland was preparing for this they received billions of millions of subsidies from the european union, that is, polish farmers earned a lot for all these stories in order to prepare for ukrainian agricultural products, and they were also told that they would continue to pay you can do otherwise, not giving them money is also an option, stop giving them money to polish farmers, slovak farmers, hungarian farmers, bulgarian farmers who have now blocked the roads to bulgaria. and give money to our

farmers because the bulgarian prime minister told them absolutely honestly that you owe to european subsidies and not at all to your own, not only your hard work because you lost the competition a long time ago and the fact that europe gives you money is what saved you as farmers in general actors of poland well, therefore, if the european commission makes certain decisions , then you should do the running simply because you have obliged them. i say that there is another result , take the money from them, let them rush to their own fertile lands, and he is fertile, she is very infertile, that's why there are subsidies and give them to us and give them to us, this also has one option, which can divide these subsidies between polish ukrainian farmers, not only remove the restrictions, transfer them to the european union regime, but also give our agricultural holdings and our farmers the money that the polish cotton farmer receives a very good idea. you can simply submit it to the borovetskyi match. you can offer

it to the farmers at any pre-election rally. i give it to him as well as the day . ugh, i won't say now whether the president should have said that from the rostrum of the un general assembly or not, but the poles were actually offended not by what he said from the rostrum of the un general assembly, but what he said to the un general assembly because he mentioned them and because he compared their positions with russia's and it was very rude from their point of view, but if you don't want to be compared to moscow, you don't have to behave like russian politicians . the president of the russian federation appears and says that russia is withdrawing from the black sea grain initiative russia begins to shell the infrastructure of odessa russia is shelling the infrastructure of rainy ismail and our other danube ports in order to destroy

ukrainian agriculture this is a consequence his decision is practical. at the same moment, the prime minister of poland appears. god bless him, our great union, which helped us a lot even in rome. thank you for everything he did for us, together with the president of poland, together with mr. kaczyński, thank you very much. and he says at this moment that poland is leading restrictions on ukrainian agricultural products , the real result of these restrictions is also the collapse of ukrainian agriculture, that is, i am not going to compare poland with russia in a nightmare, russia is an aggressive terrorist the state of poland is a democratic european state putin is a dictator and criminal kaczyński duda and moraveski democratically elected politicians electoral politicians who protect the interests of their own people and putin does not protect the interests of even his own people

you can't even compare it like comparing sweet and wet ugh i don't even have such an opinion kaczynski was a member of solidarity and putin was a kgb. if you tell me , i am comparing kaczynski. and puzin is just blasphemy. for the sake of freedom from a free poland, i say this absolutely seriously, but the results are the same, the results of the decisions are the same, what do dictators from a terrorist state have, what do people i respect from a democratic country close to ukraine, why can't you tell them that they have the same result, let them think. if we have the same results with putin, maybe we can do something face-to-face and not in front of everyone but they

make public statements about grain , they were also public, i also started to tell you , maybe it should have been done face-to-face what moravetskyi who do you know who was the first to start in such a situation maybe it was necessary to talk to president zelenskyi with the prime minister shmygale uhu maybe it was necessary for everyone to call like now the ministers of agriculture are calling when it smelled like roasting maybe it should have been done and after that speak at rally and say that we have protected the interests of poland's agriculture, we have agreed with the ukrainians that they will not supply grain to our market now, we have reached a compromise of restrictions as a commission for poland will act there, it is not yet known. jumps, how long there are two months, it does not matter, the test grain, which ukrainian will go, it does not, it will not interfere with this, listen to a lot of things, it is not me who writes the speeches of maty shumlyanskyi, he has a wonderful professional rush, now what do we

have on the one hand, we have e- this russian -ukrainian russian-ukrainian-polish conflict is very unpleasant. the second one has a bad reputation in poland. i don't see any crime in the statement, the prime minister said absolutely logical things, we handed over our old weapons to the ukrainians, and now we have received and are purchasing new weapons in order to arm our army, because we gave away our weapons, and these weapons are just as they were , we are arming our army we are not going to give it to anyone, that is, he voiced it for the internal audience , but he did not think about the fact that it sounds like this or how it will be perceived. that means all the publications of the world. everyone if they saw this situation and that means how it looks in essence poland stops supplying