[000:01:00;00] and it will be necessary to restore trust between the elite political elite of poland and ukraine, and secondly, that the ukrainian agricultural sector is , first of all, land holdings, it is chernozemli, and this is a long-term challenge for polish agriculture, which is dominated by small farmers who have 10 hectares and who have loans and they have more than soap and they constitute a serious political lobby, this will remain for sure and it will be necessary to... search, yes, in any case, mrs. vukashu, it came to the point that they mutually exchanged, the first and very important persons of both states are variously offensive in phrases, both from one side and from the other, about whether the ice is breaking now , after the conversation, i don't know whether it was on the phone or in what mode, but actually, between the ministers of agriculture, we

will talk literally in a moment, now i will ask you to watch the blitz of people's polls, actually about the attitude towards ukrainians and poles, and then we will continue for a while, listen together and then return to the conversation. i think so, given that those ukrainians who wanted to work and are working, it's nice to see them here, i have acquaintances with whom i keep in touch, and the women and men who stayed are working, actually working hard, earning, but those who are not working are not very happy to see them, they are not understood, they have to do something with sometimes to do, but they don't care what they do, but they have to eat something. i believe that it is a little bit like that, because at the beginning we were very open, i have heard many such situations that some, certainly not all, but some ukrainians think that they have the right to certain things, for example, we will not pay for accommodation, because we are from ukraine , it's like this

example, and therefore there may be dissatisfaction, but i know... there are a lot of beautiful people from ukraine, that they are good people, so these are rather exceptions, they argue at the top, and then go drink vodka together, and we, those who accept this is close to my heart, let's fight with each other, if someone has sense, it won't be like that, i think, we should help each other, but so that no one suffers from this, i don't live in warsaw, so i don't feel it, in that same time market. here we see that people had different opinions, but we understand that on what they say, what people think, very often is also influenced by what politicians say and how they form the image of themselves, their country, and the neighboring country, and this is very important, you just said that now

certain people will have to.. .' persons, well, or as they say in ukraine, certain scumbags will now have to look anew, how to glue together certain broken pieces of delicate relations, how much do you think it affected the mood of the polish voter, this whole discussion, the election campaign, all this high the degree to which some things are irreversible here, or vice versa the opposite, because we did not receive such pictures from the residents of warsaw, as far as... the statements affected their attitudes towards ukrainians, in particular, ukrainians, refugees whom poland graciously accepted since last year, and who will actually win as a result of this, these, let's call it disputes, so what to exacerbate the situation now, i don't yet know any public opinion polls, how which, how which would

reflect this dispute, yes, uh, provoked the ukrainians and unfortunately it came to this exchange, and they, if they will come to

power, then everything will be fine, right and justice, but there is the biggest problem to explain, because, of course, this is a party that has invested a lot of political capital in order to convince also its own hopes that the support will be and remain preliminary, and we, we, will manage, if we were to get out of

this crisis of confidence , that is, let’s wait for the actual thing, what should we wait for, i’m mr. lukash, we just don’t have enough airtime there, but it will be terribly interesting to continue this conversation when you already have on hand, and in particular, fresh sociology, so that we can see , as a society. responded to this discussion, thank you very much for participating in the program, łukasz adamski, doctor of history, political analyst, deputy director of the juliusz miruszewski dialogue center, was in touch with us, we also remember that the prime minister of poland, mateusz marwiecki, called on our president not to offend the poles, and here we understand how much the word weighs, as the poet wrote, sometimes, writers have to write the right things, because the wrong ones can lead... to such strategic mistakes, now we have a short pause in order not to make any mistakes, then we'll be back, wait

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zombies. let's counter the information attacks of the russians in the chronicles of information war project with olga len. tuesday, thursday-friday at 17:10 on espresso tv channel. well, we are back, but very briefly, because now we have yehor checherinda, our colleague and host from kyiv, on the phone. congratulations yehor. we don't see where you are today, what place you chose and who will be your guest, well that's right, it doesn't show the location, the enemies don't need to know, they don't need to, well, the only thing i'll tell the enemies is that today we are joining from the left bank, i congratulate you, dear colleagues, i was traveling here by subway and i was very worried, lest there be an air raid, as she was at night, to get to the left bank, because the metro does not run until days later. when the air alarm, well, thank god, we will talk with

taras zagorodny, our polytech expert, well , in particular, let's start, i congratulate you, mr. taras, let's start with today night shelling, mostly our southern, southern regions suffered, in particular odesa, odesa port, near-port area , the russians were fired upon with shaheds, and onyxes, rockets, and calibers, too, odesa , the naval station there and the unfinished hotel that stood there were almost completely destroyed , well, one of the symbols of this. zone, although it was not completed, but it looked nice enough before the shelling, now there is nothing, well, in general, the naval station is one of the symbols of odesa, which, well, what is the purpose of such shelling, tell me, this is such an answer for destroyed the headquarters of the black sea fleet, and how it can or not, and how it can affect the export of ukrainian grain, let me remind you, this weekend is already the second ship in the last two months, during which russia withdrew from this grain agreement , to the bosfordane

, passed, this ship passed, and in principle, well, somehow this grain corridor is functioning, will it affect its functioning in the future, these shellings, please, well, just the shelling will show that russia already has no great influence on the grain corridor, because after of how it was destroyed well, surface ukrainian drones appeared, which actively began to destroy warships of the russian federation, well, you remember, in general , the first, the first sortie of surface drones happened last year, it was in the bay of sevastopol, it was such a scrap scrap, then our dear sbu, for to show that they had nothing to do with it at the time, they immediately leaked the video on the official website of this, and further, the build-up, judging by the reports, interviews that mr. malyuk gave to cnn, we see that the number of these drones increased dramatically, it

means that there is no possibility to block, block the grain, grain corridor in the russian federation, they are simply afraid of approaching this zone, then the black sea fleet was destroyed, then a submarine was destroyed on the territory, including many things were destroyed, and this means , that the russians in principle no longer have the opportunity to attack in any other way than this way, secondly, why, of course, that this is an attempt to intimidate the ukrainians again, this is the second reason, and the third, and since they can no longer hit other targets, they try to hit where they can get to reach odessa while they can, because they are shooting from crimea, and accordingly , since this target is not so difficult to hit, because, after all, the pppo over odessa is probably not so powerful so far, that is why they are trying to do this , will it work, well, let's see, because what is the problem, they are destroying... grain terminals, but this does not mean that transshipment cannot proceed, it

means that transshipment simply proceeds from the wheels, and not, for example, not grain accumulates in seaports in order to export it, so here are the reasons that russia is trying to implement. mr. tras, let's move on to the military topic, in particular to the military leadership of ukraine, exactly a week ago, the cabinet of ministers at its meeting, last monday, dismissed all six deputy ministers except the first deputy, and it was a surprise, i just the day before literally on saturday, the day before that monday , i talked with andrii shevchenko, there was a journalistic forum with us, then the deputy minister, he didn’t even know whether he would stay or not, but he said, well, sooner than everything, i will still work, then on monday the resignation, unexpectedly, even, as i understand it, for the deputies, the deputies have not been appointed yet, but russian propagandists, well , so-called russian journalists, in particular

volodymyr solov 'ov, who unexpectedly, as for me, wrote himself, it seems, either on twitter or in a telegram, about the fact that he is the deputy minister for television support. well-known ukrainian volunteer dana yarovak will become the minister of defense of ukraine, well and there he wrote very bad words about her, that she does not deserve it, that she is a pseudo-volunteer, well, let's not quote him, what does this show, why, well, personnel appointments are already so taken care of in our country, even at the level of deputy ministers, russian propagandists take care of them, well, because they don't want the ministry of defense to become more effective, yes, the more effective the ukrainian military machine is, the more it will destroy the enemies. less money will be spent where it is not needed and, accordingly, such a reaction in that among such propagandists already at this level, well, dana yarovava, well, she is not just a volunteer, she is a well-known specialist in tearing off the hands of various officials since the 14th year, who want to get

into the budget with their dirty hands, warm up on various purchases, and so on, therefore, of course, i can't be a better advertisement... i just can't, therefore, of course, it should be congratulated if such an appointment is made, it should be congratulated, especially since, look, after the anti-corruption council appeared in the ministry of defense, after the introduction of prozoro, when dana yarovava was present, see scanda, a member of this organization, there are no scandals regarding purchases, we have all kinds of scandals, there are eggs, jackets and so on, they actually related to one thing, it was the fall of last year, with as long as the car is fixed, when this issue has already been resolved, well, at least we don't hear scandals there, and this is a very good sign. mr. taras, what insiders do you have about who else can become, well , can she really become the deputy minister of this rova, or solovyov, where is he from

i took the information and who else can become the deputy minister of rustem omerov, have these candidates already been determined for you, well, we saw the appointment of the secretary there, he is a person who works... with him the state property funds, and others, let's see, i would welcome all after all, there are military personnel there, military personnel, preferably from the general staff, who could establish rapid communication with the ministry of defense, because after all, the main customer of everything that the ministry of defense must carry out is absolutely military, that is, the diligent general staff, that is, they determine priorities, they give orders to the ministry of defense, it must carry them out, so the specifics of military affairs, i would still like to see the military there, let's see how it will be implemented, because there is no time for rolling out, you know, traditional changes, let's go here let's see what, where, how, it's necessary that it all work from somewhere as soon as possible, and candidates, look, candidates, we must understand that they must be simply

qualified people, i would still welcome people from the general staff and from the army, which they still know what it is about, but it doesn't matter, mr. taras, i have always supported the crimean tatars, i have supported, well , my personal opinion is that they should still be given national legislative autonomy in crimea, well, this is my personal opinion, journalist , but after the appointment of rustem umerov, i heard a lot of talk even in expert circles about the fact that perhaps representatives of the crimean tatar people's assembly should not have been appointed to the position of minister, because they are such, well, the crimean-tatar issue is sensitive, and the minister, and military, and me too. all the same, the scandal begins, it began to accelerate immediately after, do you not excuse a certain danger, i do not see any danger here, he has the function of organizing the defense of ukraine, you all know this, nationals, he is a citizen of ukraine, you know, this is me you know, this reminds me of a story, whether

it is a fable or not, when a british delegation with an orchestra came to the soviet union, and at that time, the then minister of culture... in order to prove that, as it were, in the soviet union there is no anti-semitism, she began to tell me, you see, anti-semitism was already quite strong there, they did not prohibit jews from entering universities , the fifth count, i say, you see, we have an orchestra of 100 people, and there are 10 jews there, yes, on what the director of this british orchestra said, you know, somehow it never even occurred to me to count how many jews i have in this orchestra, so we should not raise all these issues, it does not matter at all, these are all citizens of ukraine, now on different ukrainians are fighting at the front origin, there are armenians, there are many jews, so i don’t see a topic for conversation here at all, and on the contrary i see a positive, since it is possible

that the issue of the deoccupation of crimea will also be resolved, well, in a faster way, let’s say, with the appointment of a new minister, god willing , well, not only crimea, but also the entire ukrainian territory, including donbass and part of kharkiv oblast, let's talk about one more minister, oksana zholnovich, now we know the name and surname of the minister of social policy, i repent of my ignorance. of journalism did not even know who our ministers, because they often change there, she gave an interview to the ukrainian media, in which she said that it is necessary to take the ukrainian people, ukrainian citizens out of their comfort zone, well, this is almost a verbatim quote, because it is necessary to reduce their social welfare, social protection during the war, well, you wrote about it in social networks, how do you evaluate such initiatives to remove the comfort zone and what should be the response of the minister, prime minister, prime minister denys shmegalyan. similar statements, well, such statements should be dismissed resignation, because look, the state fund has the fund

, well, this ministry has all the functionality to see who abuses social benefits and who doesn't, social care is the task of the state, you know, it reminds me of tritsyakov, they say, that they are still girlfriends who told me that there are good, good, poor quality children and so on, well, this is an absolutely marismistic attitude towards people , there must be protection, not everyone can help themselves, look where there is social protection, there are all the same people they go, they all go to europe they are going, and not to us, then, well, i read there that she has not yet said, she didn’t say that, she, like tretyakov, is now starting to discuss whether veterans should be given benefits, she seriously wrote, look at that interview, you know, it may or may not give, that they will come there and open a business, dear zhalnovich, i tell you personally, you are to blame for these people and simply these feet should be kissed, that they will still

remain intact, and they will also have to support their children, including, society is to blame to these people, all that freedom with their lives, and to support these people, it is simply the obligation of society, not only children, but also their families, to give education to children and so on, so saying that giving or not giving benefits is not discussed at all, it is clear, yes, let's ask one more question , i am talking about personnel changes, we spoke on friday with victor shlinchak, and according to his information, after the return of the president and his team from america, personnel disturbances are expected both in his office and in the cabinet ministers, according to mr. shlinchak's insider information, including the prime minister can resign, what kind of information do you have, do you have a minute literally, do you have such intentions. i have long been in favor of pansch shmigal resigning, because he is in... i generally think that shmigal lives in a world where there is no war, nothing happens to him, this is the last conflict with

poland, which came out like this, this is 60% mr. shmyhal's right, because his task was to go to warsaw and solve this issue , yes, and not to threaten the poles, brothers, i almost don't know, there you know, brothers in fact, to lobby for the interests of the agroboronni cup, who want drop the grain instead of going and smoothing relations with poland, because there it is the fault of our government specifically, it was that they did not ensure control, including, and did not talk to private companies so that they behave as they are used to in ukraine, in poland, it doesn't work that way, because the poles protect their interests, you have to learn from them. thank you, taras zagornii was with us, well, we will follow the course of events, personnel disturbances both in the office and in the cabin, whether they will really happen. thanks for inclusion, thank you, mr. taras, colleagues, i give you the floor.

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forever. we summarize the informational morning in ukraine on the air of the news, khrystyna parubiy works in the studio. three injured and one killed as a result of the russian attack on berislav , kherson region. moscow in the morning. dropped four aerial bombs on the city, one of them hit zheka's building, another bomb completely destroyed an apartment building. sorting of debris is still ongoing, there may be people there - the regional prosecutor's office reports. also , the russians hit the villages of olhivka and lviv with aircraft, the information about the victims is being clarified. they hit the sea station and the hotel building. russians at night with