karabakh and this could help just during the anti-terrorist operation. mr. volodymyr, if it was so, then it turns out that moscow really woke up armenia, let's do it this way, step by step. well, the conditions are like this after the 44-day war, that is, one of the results, in addition to the undisputed victory of azerbaijan in that phase of the war, as i call it for karabakh, now they say there, the third phase, the fifth, they are carrying, we all see, was the condition of placing russian military on the territory of azerbaijan in karabakh, so there are no options in the current ones conditions without communication, no matter how offensive it sounds to someone, like it or not, without communication with the so-called rmk, without certain negotiations, pressure on them, whatever, in principle, any military operation of azerbaijan cannot be recognized.

perhaps i will say generally seditious things now, and coordination with the russians, if we take it for granted that the non-escalation option was already impossible, then from the escalation scenarios, now you are showing the footage, i will return to them, it was the most optimal from the point of view view of loss minimization as peaceful the population and the so-called combatants from illegal armed armenian formations on the territory of karabakh, further, in relation to the transfer of coordinates to the russians, well here, i do not quite agree with this, why, well there tvd is such and azerbaijan has such intelligence capabilities, there all these positions were visible through binoculars, there was no need to transmit anything, on the other hand, what was the communication like, well, listen, these illegal armed formations from the 20th year, when the russians entered there, they were under the full operative command of the command

rmk, not armenia, the armenian general staff, despite the fact that armenia receives these troops, money was added there, the entire budget of the so-called , no longer existing nkr, it was supported by armenia, but in operational subordination, they carried cartridges and shells from position to position , accompanied by russian convoys, peacekeepers and so on, this annoyed azerbaijan very much and because of this the checkpoint appeared, because azerbaijan pressed, this was not in the agreement, it simply pressed and there were problems with the russians, so now it is not about the transfer of coordinates goes, and the fact that the russians they informed me, believe me, even... through their channels, their subordinates, if you will, in the positions that there will be one, two, three, and i don't think this is bad, because those frames, even as you are now showing, there, the infrastructure, positions, equipment, even the pppo equipment was crumbling, that’s good , but there were practically no personnel there, and now there are a lot of streams, disinformation of various kinds, where i would not like to speculate, but on the topic of casualties and the civilian population, this one but believe me, they could be a lot. worse, let's call it that, and well

such are our realities, and even under such conditions of moderation, please note, without failures , without disruptions, according to various sources, six russian, so-called peacekeepers, two deputy commanders, among them this russian rmk, were killed in a firefight, azerbaijan admitted, that they are myzerbaijani, the apology has already gone and so on, there is unconfirmed information that two more were shot by the armenians themselves, and here... the events will be very interesting, it is not a fact that we will be told about it, but russia will definitely invite an indulgence for killing his own peacekeepers, and this is almost inconsistent, the azerbaijani expert environment does not always publicly say that the situation with the downed russian helicopter, literally at the end of the 44-day war, is a very similar situation, as a certain case of beli, so that azerbaijan is more, let's say so.

the kremlin moderates were conciliatory, now, well, as far as it was obvious , russian peacekeepers are dying demonstratively, there is a very important moment for ukraine, there the deputy of some flotilla of submarines, of the russian federation, died there, he was on at the resort, he probably made money, and we had such a meme, remember, a submarine in the steppes of ukraine, now the submariner died in the mountains of karabakh, this is not a joke. i just wanted to ask you what kind of submariner he was, but although you know, he is this one, zampolit, zampolit, he is a deputy from what is it called in our country, i don’t remember, some kind of social and educational work there in ukrainian realities, zampolit, the deputy was, from ampolitus was definitely on the flotilla, and here was one of the deputies, and this is recognized , and you can imagine the level of non-public communication, on the other hand, we need to deal with moscow

, because this is to some extent a precedent and that the russians will roll out there in the future, well, as per the classics, their concepts are wise, maybe they will ask that the military base that is there now remain after the 25th year , if there are any other issues regarding the restoration of the contract, they can get financial things in the same karabakh, that is, what will they roll out, well, we will see, not everything is smooth, even in such and such, in such moderation and in such relations, but the main thing the question is that azerbaijan really creates a precedent in the post-soviet space for other countries to de-occupy their own territories, regarding the restoration of justice - this is true, but if we go down to the details, then it is not true at all, because other countries, well, armenia was not directly attacked and russia was not through vermenen acted in relation to the occupation of the territory of moldova, georgia, ukraine, and somehow yes, of course, but look, i also asked you about whether or not putin was going to armenia at that time, because

look, well, i don’t think such a question is relevant, why , because in relations russia with anyone, they will acquire... anyone in any country of the post-soviet space is looked upon as a client, and what is there, well, bismarck from that world says that he did not say such a thing, but there is a famous phrase that any agreement with the russian federation is not worth the paper on which it is signed, well, armenia has now understood, that's all i can say, when, when she actually abandoned armenia, what do we mean, now, when formally, having views of azerbaijan as well, and on georgia, and on vervenia, on... all this tin transcaucasia in their logic imperial, they still call it, although for us rostov is from transcaucasia, from the south caucasus, that is, nothing has changed here, they have now surrendered to armenia, or when in 1999 the whole world of armenian politics and geopolitics was shot in the parliament and brought

karabakh clan to power, which in 20 years made armenia a client of the russian federation on paper, in reality on the ground, anywhere, and now, look, it's an interesting moment. it is necessary to speak, during the last escalation in karabakh, there was absolute silence on the armenian-azerbaijani border, and this moscow did not like it very much, because they are now campaigning on the subject of karabakh, sponsoring their people from the past, the karabakh clan, revanchists, these are the dashnaks, there, to put it very simply, due to lack of time in armenian realities, they sweep nikol pashinyan under the slogan of that he handed over karabakh to azerbaijan, moscow's entire claim to yelivan looks like what you have admitted. karabakh, azerbaijan, recognized the territorial integrity without agreeing with moscow, there on the prague square or somewhere else, that's it, all of a sudden to them, god forbid, it would have happened now nikol pashinyan will be swept away there, i don’t have any personal sympathies there, but we are talking about the chair, if

the chair is demolished, it will be called into question, the own armenian statehood at this stage, and only if another puppet comes there, then belarusianization, entry into the union state and russia is saving armenia, the armenians now understand this well, we can really wish success in these developments in practice, and not only at the level of the latest slogans there, regarding the fact that 99.9, as nikol pashinyan said, dependence in defense and security sector from of the russian federation, it was a strategic mistake, you see, well, there is nothing surprising here , these are obvious things, the only thing that is surprising is that even vermenovych is already talking about it. that's all, and now what can happen to the russian base in gyumri, it will be and this is interesting, and this is an interesting question, this is one of the points, in my opinion, not the most significant, if other processes proceed, everyone, now the question will really arise of signing of the peace treaty between armenia and

azerbaijan, against the background of the reintegration of karabakh, the population of karabakh, i do not know to what extent the lion's share of them, now there is information that already 500 have moved to armenia in an organized manner, this will be a factor in the domestic political life of armenia. at what venue will they go to this signing. moscow will do everything, either to delay the signing of this peace agreement, shaking nikol pashinyan, or for it to be signed in moscow, not with two signatures, the leaders of armenia, baku and yerevan, but with a third one with moscow, as some guarantor there, in these given the conditions, i can hardly imagine how now nikol will go to moscow on call, let's see how events develop, now a meeting is being prepared, for example, there is information that aliyev and pashinyan are supposed to meet on october 5 in granada, spain, but events are so, well, crowded, so rapidly

developing that i would not, i would not give a forecast now, will finally take place is this meeting, or not, in relation to the 102nd base, you understand, well, if there is a real reversal, they have to solve the issue of energy supply, which gazprom to armenia is completely dependent on moscow, borders, normalization of relations for... this discovery borders with azerbaijan and turkey, with in turkey, there are russian border guards of the fsb of the russian federation, that’s vileness, if tomorrow you suddenly don’t take a car from georgia , but take a plane to zvarnots, yerevan airport, you will be met by a russian border guard of the fsb, not a armenian, i’m just giving such simple examples, i.e. there, if they start turning around, well, turn it back from russia. we will all feel it, not to mention the armenians, because we, for example, also warms my heart and

soul, there was an interview of nikol pashinyan at the republic, i have already quoted one statement, they have to accept the roman statute now and will accept it, it seems to me that the first lady or the second lady of their hierarch annikan visited kyiv in the parliament and all such things, at the level of gestures to tease moscow, this is how all this happens, by the way, there are two maidans in yerevan, one under the russian embassy was that russia. against the russian influence, on armenia , russian provocateurs are heating up these processes in terms of chaos, and not only convinced people, so from the language of gestures, from the language of declarations, if the armenians move to concrete steps, no matter how long i am here nafar skeptic, we can only wish them success. uh, interesting, but tell me, please, what is happening now in yerevan, which you already started talking about, this morning i read the information that in the morning, i mean, around 11:00 , it was that

at least 140 people have already been detained at the morning rally, here is the situation in armenia itself with these rallies, protest actions, how dangerous is it, well, i won't say the explosion is dangerous, but how dangerous is it for pashinyan and for armenia? well, look, i'll repeat myself now conscious armenians, whose opinion i have now... relayed, they understand that with all, let's say, questions, they, they have accumulated a lot, a lot has accumulated before nikol pashinyan , actually vermen, now in these conditions, the demolition of nikol pashinyan, it is not a question surnames and preferences, this is a question of the destruction of state institutions, and the very existence of the armenian state is threatened, the armenians understand that, further, everything will depend on how the security and defense sector. vertical military security forces to the extent that they are subordinate to nikol pashinyan, for now, well

the vertical is quite stable, as we can see, vintya is quite powerful and so on, on the other hand, the armenians perfectly understand who is behind the financing and organizational resource of these protests, this is robert kocharyan, by the way , his son was detained there for a month, it seems that what forces with of the past, which are even more toxic, shall we say, well, totally toxic, are these forces pro-russian or not? you will understand how much, definitely, definitely, they are financed by one, at least one kremlin power group, with no options there according to the fsb, to things, they changed because of the so-called elections in khankend, on the eve of this counter-terrorist operation, they changed the leadership there, do n't get too involved, that is, they moderate where they can reach, you understand where their problem is, they have all the time, what i was talking about, where is the trouble in armenia? the entire domestic political life in armenia, the russians looked at it as laboratory conditions

, in some places they had more problems in the khabarovsk region or in voronezh than in armenia itself, that is, it is no secret that nikol pashinyan in the 18th year, certainly , leaning on there, on the aspirations of the people, on the protest, on the masses, he steered and steered, from various situations, cataclysms, having a rather powerful communication behind another, let's say, power wing. with moscow, now this wing can be said so, it lobby never sags in the kremlin, without it also in no way, that is why it has problems, with these protests and so on, but on the other hand, its main capital, which on the other hand, who organizes these protests, they are so toxic for the local population that he can, well, resist, unequivocally say that he as it stands now, i wouldn't do it, because for example, really, the subject of the loss of karabakh is for armenians. painful, in addition to the organizational core, let's call it that, these people from the past

, revanchists, from the karabakh clan , a certain network of protest is already appearing, let's say, students are coming out, the orchestra is working, there is a lot of finance and so on, that is, the situation is quite difficult , so that nikola, so that nikola pashinyan can keep it, on the other hand , as i see the situation, russia, god forbid, of course, russia will lose armenia, even if... what will come to the most let's say so escalating scenario of removing pashinyan there now, well, with the example of 1999, i don’t want to draw frontal parallels, but such scenarios are also being heard now regarding the past, very little time, and i still have one last question of completion, but very briefly, please tell me , and this information, which was voiced by pashinyan himself that he has information about russia's preparations for a coup d'état, it may be true, but very briefly, in armenia, we are now

observing the implementation of these attempts, yes, but i just wonder if this information could have been exactly the same , that he led, or is it? there were facts, well, did he manipulate the facts, or was it simply fear of, before losing, for example, a position , well, he is a player, nikol pashinyan is a player, he is after the 20th year, after 10 seconds, panneda, without exaggeration of a national disaster appeared in armenia, it may be an element of the game, but it is true that the cream is really wearing off nikola pashinyan now, i thank you very much, i thank you very much, mr. volodymyr, thank you for participating in today's program, volodymyr kobchak, the head of... half of the south caucasian branch of the research center armies, conversions and disarmament, talked with him about what is currently happening between armenia, azerbaijan and the return of karabakh to azerbaijan. this is the end of today, we will meet next week at the usual time on monday, on tv channel uso, do not switch now, the broadcast continues. there are discounts on amiksyn

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repeat at 12:10 p.m., state-owned property, which in every way hindered and are hindered by representatives of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, interesting processes are also taking place in the men's monastery itself , about what has been done in six months, and what is the current situation in the lavra and how many monks are ready to join the ocu, acting vicar of the monastery avraamii told in an exclusive interview with facts and vasyl safenik. the russian occupation of ukraine lasted for centuries, and in kiev-pechersk. for a long time, the ideology of ruskavamir prevailed, but in the last six months, it gradually began to change eradicate. transformations began even in such a conservative environment as

a male monastery. on march 29 , hymandrite avraamiy lotysh became the acting abbot of the lavra from the orthodox church of ukraine. before that, he was also a hieromonk. dear fathers and brothers, i urge you to stay in the lavra as part of the local orthodox church of ukraine, as you know. by the choir of his beatitude metropolitan epiphanius. now the new vicar of the lavra conducts divine services in the upper lavra, and he also calls other monks to transfer to the ocu and to remain in the orthodox sanctuary. many of you are now under great pressure, they are trying to intimidate you with lies about the local church and the future. instead, supporters of moscow responded in their own way. avraamiy's cell was robbed, and the property was destroyed, and yet , in six months , cardinal changes took place in... the guardian lavra. services in ukrainian are now heard not only in the upper part. i would say that even the lower one prays in ukrainian. calmly and confidently performing

the duties of the chief orthodox vicar of the monastery of ukraine tells about what was done in six months to cleanse the shrine of the russian spirit. the lavra will become, no longer the center of the russian world, as it was before, but will become a truly ukrainian and orthodox shrine. and the ukrainian people. in the current situation, the most important thing is that, despite all the accusations and manipulations coming from the moscow patriarchate, as well as russian propagandists, everyone understood that there was, is, and always will be a men's monastery in the lavra. let there be three, four, 7, 10 monks, yes, but they will be monks pro-ukrainian, these are monks who will not call for russian peace, but pray for ukraine. no more than 60 monks remain on the territory of the lower lavra, some of them, on the instructions of the moscow patriarchate, are waiting for the completion of court cases, others intend to stay in

the sanctuary. understanding them, i know that there is no trust between them, in each other, everyone is afraid to say something, express their opinion, position. at the same time, the great influence of the leadership of the moscow patriarchate remains on the monks. we watched them try for six months pretend to be martyrs, although no one kills them, no one tortures them, no one forces them to renounce christ, but all this is played out, the main demand for monks is to stop serving the russian orthodox church, whose patriarch kirill blesses the killing of ukrainians, renounces the moscow patriarchate, that's all , nothing more and nothing less, but as we can see, they are holding on to the last, avraamiv believes that the final court decision to evict supporters of the ukrainian orthodox church from the lavra can change everything. the moment of truth will come when they need it

or leave the monastery or make the right choice in who they stay with, whether with the moscow patriarchate or the ukrainian church. to this day, in addition to the monks who live in cells, there are four dozen believers staying in the three hotel buildings. orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate. even despite the decision of the commercial court of kyiv, they did not leave the territory of the lower lavra. the law enforcement officers received their personal data, and i hope that further actions will already be determined by the law enforcement officers regarding these persons, due to the fact that people refuse to leave these premises, the lower territory of the lavra remains closed and access to all the shrines of the lower territory of the lavra is still limited. when both the reserve and the monastery are fully operational, avraamiy intends to organize an orphanage in the lavra for the children of fallen defenders of ukraine. our church, in particular the lavra from

the ukrainian people, as well as with those children who have been left behind by this parental care and attention, therefore i think that the lord, through the prayers of our monks, will help to implement this of mine such a dream vasyl sefyaniuk, yevhen zuzulya, ictv fact, edyni news. well, we believe in god, and even more so in the armed forces, we support them and bring victory closer. glory to ukraine. chevorons approaching victory, the enemies

thought that regardless. for us it's just a word, but from the first steps on our land, they were convinced that we have been defending our independence for centuries and are ready to fight for it again. the defense forces of ukraine, stubbornly, relentlessly, step by step, win, gnaw, squeeze out of the enemy's claws our land, our will, our independence, we thank you, for every moment, and for this day, independence, we prove it every day, offensively and defensively, day and night, boldly and confidently, they pave the way to our victory with armor, tank troops...

the pride of the armed forces of ukraine. glory to the tankers of the armed forces of ukraine. it's normal to be afraid. and admitting your fear is brave. we need brave people, update the data in tsk. courage conquers fear. more than 1,070 war crimes committed by the russians after the start of the full-scale invasion have already been recorded in the office of the prosecutor general of ukraine. when it comes punishment for these crimes. we are talking about this with olga aivazovska, the head of the board of the opor civic network, who is in our studio today. mrs. olga, i congratulate you. i congratulate you. this figure of 107 war crimes is shocking. but, given the scale of the crimes, what

russians. are committed on the territory of ukraine, as far as it reflects them, are most of the crimes recorded, or just some small field, well, i am convinced that even if we take mariupol as a separate case, as a city of tragedy, which at some point was under russian occupation, we saw visually , the scale of the bombings, the witnesses who managed to escape the occupation, in fact there were not many of them, talk about an incredible number of facts... murders, deaths, bodies that they saw on the streets of the city, that is, frankly speaking, 107, if even compared to the scale of the tragedy in mariupol, this is hardly a relevant number, it is hardly a number that really reflects the scale, again of the crimes committed by the russian military and the russian senior leadership, which made the decision to launch a full-scale invasion, 107 is about those

stories that became public, that is... i am not sure that 107 interviews, for example, were conducted, or investigative actions with thousands of witnesses, most likely we are talking about a huge number of cases obtained due to the fact of available information in open sources, for example, a photo of a dead body published in an anonymous telegram channel, is a reason for the general prosecutor's office and, in principle, investigators to start a pre-trial investigation into this fact, so we have very large data, but they obviously do not correspond to the real scale of the tragedy in in ukraine, crimes against children, in particular the deportation of children, are those cases that at the international level, at least seem to have the most progress, so the international criminal court issued an arrest warrant for putin, lviv and bilova, his human rights commissioner, precisely because dp