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greetings friends, this is the worldview program on the espresso tv channel, my name is vasyl zimaya, for the next hour and 45 minutes we will talk about a very important topic, today we will talk about the war, but our guest, my, the people with whom we talked, will talk about this war. and he was already in eteriso , i think, in the 15th or 16th year, andriy. with callsign masiver, a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, who has already passed, who has been in this war for quite a long time, and we will talk about the war with him , through the eyes of a military officer, as they say, without any bleaching or bleaching, well and many things he wants to say, first of all for society, for the community, and it is important to hear, and it is important to understand this war, when you are there, mr. andriy, glad to see you, congratulations, mutual, glory. glory to the heroes of ukraine,

i want to say that we are of our time, years old five, was it a long time ago, the 15th year or when mr. andriy comes to our studio for espresso and then he went through the battle near debaltseve, we also talked about it, so mr. andrei studied, saw, knows and feels this war , and when there is an opportunity to talk, it is necessary to listen to the people who today actually hold the sky above us and hold the enemy in those positions where the enemy is now and beat this enemy, i will... briefly say, well, from that , what happened, as well as for you to know the latest news, there are currently explosions in enemy-occupied donetsk, we will monitor and understand what happened there, and yesterday a large warehouse of enemy ammunition was blown up in the city, well, which we know as krasnadon, now it already has a different name, it is luhansk region, almost on the border with the russian federation, mr. andrii, i want to start with such a question, well, it will give an opportunity perhaps

better to our viewers, what is happening at the front, putin gave an order to stop the counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine. in your opinion, please tell me whether the russian army is now able to stop the counteroffensive, at what stage it is at, how would you rate it these efforts of the enemy, stop, regroup, repulse? your assessment, your opinion, please, thank you, i will correct you a little, first, baltseva, near the donetsk airport , under the donetsk airport, yes, yes, yes, at the airport itself, look, well, my assessment will be that, in fact, stop power, russia has been expressing for a long time, but they, the further they are, the more they are, let's say, not very successful in it, now, to put it briefly, then... it is,

let's say, at such, excuse me, at such a stage , that our troops have passed, it turns out, the supply line, which is always is in front of the first line of defense, which is almost the most difficult place in the enemy's defense, these are minefields, these are fortifications , these are barricades, these are areas that can be shot through, and when they have already reached the first line of defense and occupied it, these are already occupied fortifications and trenches enemy, that is, there is a place for our infantry to establish themselves, rest, start, well, regroup, start a new wave, and when they have already reached the first line, then this is already an achievement and this is already, well, this is basically the result, because of this the enemy is worried, the enemy begins to get nervous and the enemy asks to stop this counterattack there. but we are

let's see the results later, hopefully they will be even better, really, i have a lot more to say. let's go, mr. andriy, you know, how will we build our conversation, then i will ask questions that are tangential , so to speak, to what you want to tell, because again, mr. andriy, wrote to me, since i i know, we decided to talk, mr. andriy wants to tell his vision, his understanding and the situation in the war, and he also has something to say to society, which today, well, one society, parts of society supports our armed forces, others they rest, go for a walk and live their own lives, for them war does not seem to exist. in addition to the fact that sirens sometimes sound, well, in some cities more, in other places less, but there are, and i think that we should listen, mr. andrii, we should listen to our defender, a warrior with great experience, the key points should also be voiced about war also, then, let me ask a question, and you will then say, in the course of answering this question,

what you would like to say, what is important, yes, because it must be said, we need it to hear, well, maybe we will understand our fighters better, and the fighters, i think, will understand better whether our society, what i wanted to ask about, and now there is such an informational and psychological operation that is actively spreading in social networks, in particular in tiktok, i see a lot of such videos that somewhere in the beginning of october, if a truce is not reached, if this happens, then russia will start a real war, before this it was not a real war, please tell me, in your opinion, ah, really it's possible... it's possible, i'm interested in the opinion of the military people, who today pay with their blood and life for this victory, whether it is possible to negotiate, and again, whether russia is capable of starting something, what it i haven't started yet, well then you already, when you answer this question, then you can continue voicing what

you wanted to say, please, okay, thank you for understanding, look, this is my personal opinion, i believe that russia in fact, the only thing she can still use at once is this its mobilization, i.e. its human resource, it exceeds our resources, we all understand this, and this is probably its only strategic, strategic advantage at the moment, but even after starting the mobilization, although there, putin does not say that he already has 300,000 more people under contract, but it seems to me that this is a bluff, firstly, and secondly, these are people who still need equipment and equipment, equipment, and firstly, this is training, and they have come now even to

uh, the theater of combat, they will not, they will play i am deciding the roles, in this current situation, and well, you are right, it is probably... the next dog, i don’t even pay attention to such and such entrances and such and such information, there was already a lot of it during these, during this time, so well, why, why even waste your time on this and talk about it, yes, they still have the opportunity to build their own, well, let’s say , weapons, their own, some kind of means, rockets, but ah, well, they are not so different , they are not so impressive even for us, it is already, well, we see from our experience, the whole world sees, sees so that's all, well, it's conversations, conversations - this

is their favorite trick, and conversations - it's not business, it's always them, they, it's facts. well, somehow, i may have answered your question, well, this is my personal opinion , that's right, mr. andriy, now let's do it, i know what you wanted to talk about about the war, what you wanted to express is very important to understand how the people who are currently at the front assess the situation, how they assess the challenges, how they assess the workload, i understand that the personnel military, like the vykrema, have a long time at the front, i even look at facebook like this, i have friends who are mobilized, and volunteers and those who are in the military, well, there are a few everywhere, their understanding and their own, their understanding of the war and their experience of these burdens and difficulties, well, there are certain nuances, of course, but i want to hear your opinion exactly how the load is experienced, which people are currently lying down for a long time without rotation, this is also, also a fact, and

you will not get anywhere from this, there are many other points, this is the first, and secondly, if we turn to society, because it is very important, for you to apply, i could also say something...' to say to people for whom war does not exist, let's say neither morally, nor mentally, nor materially at all, well, it doesn't exist, as if, we live, but, but it's a completely different matter, when the person who is on the front line in this war, on the front line, will turn. and not some kind of informational conditional or economic or cultural front, on the real front, which is one front, we don’t have other fronts, so please give me your word, to be honest, well, i don’t know how to say it more gently, but i i think that those people who don't really pay attention to it, well, it makes no sense to pay attention either, there are people who care about it, there are people who are tangential to it.

there are people who live in it, there are people who sympathize in it, there are people who don't care, there is nothing to turn to these people who don't care, they should either be ignored, or maybe, somehow, eliminated, let's say this , from, to eliminate as much as possible from the fact that they have any influence on... on our further future and in general on society, on its activities, well, somehow yes, i can express it, but to turn to them, to express some indignation there, something else, this, this is a waste of time, and it seems to me that it is pointless, i understand what you are talking about, i understand, i happen, rarely , but i visit kyiv and other big cities, and sometimes i don't feel it there. that the war is sometimes, but then the siren sounds and everyone probably

remembers it, well, for the most part, yes, young people , they, well, they want to rest, they want to have some fun and so on, some of them have a settled future, they have there some connections, there may be parents and everything else, but this is not it those people who are, say, an active faction of ours. of our people, our nation, who can create the future, and most importantly, this is the task of all other people, so that these people, in no case later, are not related to our government, you understand, these people should never come to any positions, for some ranks and so on, this is the main task, this is what i can tell people all that if you see that this person is not...' er, well, let's say, no, is concerned about our future,

was not there , in his, past, there aren't, er, any normal decent deeds, there, i don't i mean military service, well, at least there, at least some normal ones, then no, think about voting for these people someday, well, that is , everyone should understand such things, well, but i will repeat this from myself, eh, and still. .. i want to add to the fact that i also had a little, of course, of course, please, mr. andriy , yes, yes, look, i want to briefly say this, for everyone, maybe the information, maybe it has already happened more than once , but in short, it is important , now the situation at the front is such that, there is no, uh, uh, there is no great need, let's say, to spend a lot of people on those

for those events that previously needed it, why, because the first war of drones is really going on, and everyone has already repeated this, probably who understands this, drones are coming, air drones are coming, sea drones are coming, even ground drones are coming and even in the middle... there are already different directions, different categories, there, first of all, there are reconnaissance ones, there are bombers, kamikaze drones, they sometimes work much better than even artillery and aviation, that is, i called it that for myself, such micro-aviation, which can realistically now decide at this stage to decide the final of this war, and it's mine, not only mine, it's a very important

component, we have to pay almost all our attention to it, it's more important than even the f-16, and the only thing i can say is that we're a little late with this, both our volunteers and the military talked a lot about it, but unfortunately, the previous leadership of the ministry of defense there, it considered, weddings. it called it there a year ago, the same maviks were still there and so on and did not want to buy them, and then already there, before the dismissal, the minister was photographed with drones and smiled and said that this was his initiative, in fact, and uh, i really, really want that now, when the enemy has already begun to invest their funds and efforts in this, we can already see everything, so that we do not fall behind in this, this a very important component is that the same ukrabromprom, which actually did not, well, did not make an effort

, to do something in this direction, so that it would pay attention to this, although the banprom has very difficult and difficult experiences there, unfortunately, and maybe i will talk about it more i will say if there is time, that is , this is what i wanted to say, first of all, drones, drones and drones again, everyone who helps, please, and uh, please pay attention to this already, at all levels of government, uh, mr. andriy, let me just ask you to illustrate a little then, so that it will be clearer for our viewers, we we do not say in which direction you are fighting. we will not elaborate, well, if you want something there, you will give some pressure, if you don’t want it, that’s not the point, you are definitely in the direction where our front line there is more than 1000 km, so we understand that it could be luhansk region, it could be donetsk region, maybe zaporizhzhia, kherson region, and so on, but that's it so that people understand just everyday, everyday wars, this war of drones, which we often

see in videos of how these drones strike the enemy, we perfectly understand somewhere that these drones can also strike and, unfortunately, strike ours. soldiers of our fighters, so somewhere there are some opportunities to avoid, somewhere, well, but all the same, we kill, and unfortunately, they kill, kill our soldiers, also, so this, it is on the one hand, it is a double-edged sword, and we would we are, and they beat us, if we talk simply about being in positions, then you go out, russian drones, how they pester, how often they appear, how to counter them, so that we just understand how much the enemy is using now, i'm talking about the lancets , those big drones, if we're talking, and there are certainly smaller chinese drones that they use, just to have an understanding of how difficult it is in this war of drones, and how much easier it would be if , let's say, the fleet on our side was two to three times larger, at least please look, well, in short, i'll say this, that's enough the situation is changing, how the storm is going, both from our side and from

on the part of the enemy, it is practically, well, in many ways. similar situations, i.e., first of all, these maviks, reconnaissance drones, which constantly monitor the situation in the direction on which the assault is planned, hang there both day and night, and see how many are in positions, how many enter, which the number comes out, they are asked to find out what kind of weapons are there, then at a certain time there is preliminary artillery preparation , that is, it is poured into this position of the art, there, everything that is possible, er, ages, everything that can be such in in this case, well, it is necessary, it goes on,

exit, exit, a tank is moving ahead, maybe two, then several armored vehicles, on which infantry are moving , it can be inside the bmp, it can be outside, it can be, well, no... it is important, there are usually three or so units there, which are carrying infantry, the tank goes first and starts to open fire, it can reach the very positions of the enemy, or it can stop somewhere 300-500 meters beyond the landing, from which there will be direct visibility and suppress the infantry in their positions with their own guns, that is, if two tanks, that means two, at this time these three are there, let's say armored infantry, they are as close as possible drive up to the position, cover this position with the fire of their, well, there are heavy machine guns there or the same bmp guns and so on, and disembark the infantry, they shoot back as much as possible, the infantry, the infantry are allowed to take positions, stretch out, concentrate, and then turn around and

the tanks are quickly leaving there. also, it is the infantry that operates next, the infantry by itself, in an unfamiliar area, it can , let's say, not always orient itself, and here it is very important that at this time there is, it has a connection with those who see all this from above, from above drones, i.e., division commanders, platoon commanders, those who in this case give commands on the spot, they must have a picture on their phone and on their tablet that is online now above this position, he must see the movement, as well as his people and prompt them, this is very important, and this is basically, i am describing it now, it is not some kind of secret, but maybe for the people who

see, so that they understand how this is all happening, at best in these with all this, not a single car will blow up there on eh, on the temka on a mine, there when leaving, let’s say, well, that is... usually it is possible that one of the machines blows up, the infantry, well, in this case , they are almost always not there, they do not suffer, but, well, we understand, yes, the machines are still it's also a pity, that is, these are such assaults, now they go almost along the entire line of bolknovenie, but with different, with different frequency, that's theft. i wrote this for everyone so that it would be clear and so on what we need to do, we need to understand that drones, drones, it is clear that we need more, the enemy has, well, gadgets and

he has a lot of them, well, he doesn’t have that either somehow a secret, he has powerful rap tools, he develops them a lot, and the whole world knows that , well, he has good experience in this, we don't have enough of that, that is, at this time when people are storming positions there, uh, uh, the enemy is trying to suppress uh , communication channels as much as possible, to disrupt communication with drones, to blind, well, our fighters who go on assaults, that's why it's important to always have spare drones, there should be a lot of them on an assault, there should always be many, many pilots, in addition, during an assault, it can also be involved komikadz and eh, well, different types of drone drones, that’s it in a nutshell, now let’s take a short break and then we will return to the conversation and we will continue to talk about and about and about the war and , as they say, about life, and we will also discuss the political and military a little more, because also

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ukraine is the main topic for ukrainians. wins and losses, analysis and forecasts, politics and geopolitics, serhii rudenko and the guests of his program will talk about all this. people who have information and shape public opinion, people who defend ukraine and create the future right now, are the main and interesting things in the verdict by serhii rudenko program. from monday to friday at 20:00, repeat at 12:10 , we return to the conversation with us on the link andriy shyshuk with pozin sever , a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine. mr. henry, you were a major, now you have the same rank? i'm sorry, you got a little confused again, i'm not a military personnel, i am i wasn't a major, yes, i was a volunteer, this time i also came, i was somehow convinced that you were a major, well that's it, it's already

my sin, forgive me then. mr. andriy, yes, i want to say that on february 24 of last year i was in the nearest part and mobilized there, and well, that is, i am not a military personnel, maybe, but you have already gone through the war, already, i think that this experience of yours, which you have passed, you can already count towards the fact that being a soldier is like your profession, i know, i have literally 18 minutes left, i want to have time to ask something, what is important for you to say about it and maybe people understand, you know, and it is possible to learn more, it is better to understand the people on the front, because right now, this is not this, this is not a watershed and no and not some kind of chasm, well, but there is a limit there is a certain difference between the people who live here in society, more or less in peace, well, it is not a peaceful life, but without it, it is not, well, i am not talking about the cities on the front line, this is one life, war is another life, and i was a little saddened by the sociology that was

seen sociologically by the rating agency that trust in the military in society fell there up to 72%, well, it was almost 90, it’s supposed to be more than 50% trust, but this dynamic is negative, it upset me, why, why does this happen, i honestly don’t understand why, and this is where the story begins, but the military will return, and they will be other people, and they will be inconvenient for someone, and dangerous for someone, and they need to be treated, and psychologists are needed, and rehabilitation is needed. and this is what a person who lives in his own world, which is more or less calm and clear, thinks to himself, and something incomprehensible will come from the front and threaten me, and things like that, i want you know, to understand how it really is, and i want you to say, how do you understand this return, it will happen sooner or later, well, all the more so the military now on rotation, who return and live , in live in everything in society outside the war, and

what is the danger here, if... it is meetings and coexistence later with people who were on the real front and people who were not there, is it possible that this is an imaginary problem, its at all no? no, in fact, everyone understands that this problem is not imaginary, and such a problem should be, but i think that everything takes its time, i have already returned twice, it can be said that i have to get my third ubd, in this case, well it no no not so important, uh, this problem, it is uh, well, of a different nature and it is of a different importance than the, well, threat that exists now and during the war, and well, yes, there is this syndrome, there are people , who, let's say, don't control themselves, there is a percentage who, uh, don't...