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of the youtube channel, which means access to exclusive content, personal thanks, pinned comments, special icons and the possibility of personal communication with the espresso team. click sponsor and become part of the community with a ukrainian perspective. greetings friends, this is the worldview program on the espresso tv channel, my name is vasyl zamaya, for the next hour and 45 minutes we will talk about a very important topic, today we will talk about the war, but about this war our guest, mine, the person with whom we communicated, and he was already on the air in my opinion in the 15th or 16th year, andriy shashuk, with the call sign, a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, who has already passed, who is going to speak he has been in this war for quite a long time, and we will talk about the war with him, not from the eyes of a soldier, but an officer, as they say, without

any hesitation. or whitewashing, and many things he wants to say, first of all for the society, for the community, and it's important to hear and it's important to understand this war when you're there, mr. aniya, i'm glad to see you, congratulations. glory to ukraine to each other, glory to the heroes, i want to say that at one time, we were five years old, or was it a long time ago, 15 years ago, mr. andriy came to our studio for espresso and then he went through the battle of debaltseve, we they also talked about it, that's why mr. andrii has studied, seen, knows and feels this war, and when there is an opportunity to talk, you must listen to the people who today actually hold the sky above us and keep the enemy in the positions where the enemy is now and beat it in my head i will briefly say, well, from what happened, as well as to let you know the latest news , explosions are currently taking place in donetsk, which is occupied by the enemy, we will monitor and understand what happened there, and yesterday a large

warehouse of enemy ammunition was blown up in the city, well, what we know how krasnodon, now it already has a different name, it is luhansk region, almost on the border with the russian federation, mr. andriy, i want to start with such a question, well, it will give an opportunity to understand, perhaps better for our viewers, what is happening at the front, putin gave the order to stop the counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine, er, according to your assessment, please tell me whether the russian army is now able to stop the counteroffensive, at what stage it is at, how would you assess these efforts of the enemy, to stop, regroup, repulse, your assessment, your opinion, please , thanks, i 'll correct you a bit. first, not near dobaltseve, near donetsk airport, near donetsk airport, yes, yes, yes, at the airport itself, look, well, my assessment will be

that, in fact, to stop, russia has been saying for a long time, but they, the further, the more they, let's say, are not very successful in it, now... in short, it is, let's say, at such, excuse me, at such a stage, that our troops passed, it turns out a support strip, which is always in front of the first line of defense, which is almost the most difficult place in the defense, the enemy, these are mini fields, this fortifications, these are barricades, these are areas that can be shot through, and when we have already reached the first line of defense and occupied it, these are already occupied enemy fortifications and trenches, that is, there is a place for our infantry to gain a foothold, rest, start, well, regroup, start a new

wave , and when they reached the first line, then this is already an achievement and this is already, well, this is basically the result, because of this the enemy is worried, the enemy is getting nervous and the enemy is asking to stop this counterattack, but we will see the results later, i hope they will be even better, really, i have more a lot to say, let's say mr. andriy, we know how we will structure our conversation, then i will ask questions, well, tangential , so to speak, to what you want to tell, because again, mr. andriy, wrote to me, since i his know we decided to talk pandry wants to tell his vision, his understanding and the situation in the war, and he also has something to say to society, which today, well, one society supports our armed forces, others rest, walk and live their own lives, for them war supposedly does not exist, except

the fact that sirens sometimes sound, well, in some cities more, in other places less, but there are, and i think that we should listen, mr. andrii, we should listen to our defender, a soldier with great experience, the key points should be voiced about the war as well , then let me ask a question, and you will then say, in the course of answering this question, what you would like to say, what is important, yes, because it needs to be said, we need to hear it, and maybe we are better let's understand our fighters, and the fighters, i think, will understand better, our society is better, what i wanted, what i wanted to ask, and now there is such an information and psychological operation that is actively spreading on social networks, in particular on tiktok, i see a lot such similar videos that somewhere if on... at the beginning of october, a truce will not be reached, if this happens, then russia will start a real war, before that it was not a real war. please tell me, in your opinion, whether it is really, possible, possible , i am interested in the opinion, once again, of the military men who

today pay with their blood and lives for this, for this victory, whether any negotiations are possible, and again after all, is russia capable of starting something that it has not started before, and then you, when you answer , then you can continue to voice what you wanted to say, please, fine, thank you for understanding, look, my personal opinion, i believe that russia, in fact, the only thing that it can still use and use more than once is its own mobilization, that is, its resource, namely human, eh well, it exceeds our resources, we all understand this, and this is probably its only strategic , strategic advantage at the moment, but even after starting the mobilization, although there, putin says that there are already

300,000 there are still people contracted, but it seems to me that this is a bluff, firstly, and secondly, these are people who still need equipment and equipping, equipment, and first of all, this is training, and they have come now even to this theater of hostilities, they will not play a decisive role in this current situation, and well, you say that probably the next pso, i don’t even pay attention to such and such entrances and such and such information was already a lot during this time, so why, why even waste my time on this and talk about it, but they still have it now the opportunity to build your own, well, let's say

weapons, your own means of cancer they are not so impressive for us, we already see this from our own experience , the whole world sees, so that's all, well, it's conversations, conversations are their favorite feature, and conversations are not always about business they they... these are the facts, well somehow yes, i may have answered your question, well, this is my personal opinion, that's right, mr. andriy, now let's do this, i know what you wanted, to talk about the war, that , what you wanted to voice, it is very important to understand how people who are currently on the front evaluate the situation, how they evaluate the challenges, how they evaluate load, i understand that the personnel military, like vykrema, you have been at the front for a long time, i even look at facebook like this , i have friends who are mobilized and volunteers and

those who are personnel military, well, there are a few everywhere, my understanding and my , one's understanding of the war and one's experience of these burdens and difficulties, well , there are certain nuances here, of course, but i want to hear your opinion exactly how the burdens that people are currently experiencing, people are experiencing for a long time without rotation, this is also, also a fact , and you won't get anywhere from it, there is a lot other points, this is the first, and the second, if you address society, because it is very important that you address, i could also say something to people for whom war does not exist, let's say, at all, neither morally, nor mentally, nor materially, well, it is not there, as if we are living, but, but it is a completely different matter when a person who is on the front line of this war, on the front line, and not some kind of informational conditional or economic or cultural front, will turn to the real front, which there is one front, we don't have other fronts, that's why please tell me, to be honest, well, i don't know how to say it, myagchi.

but, i think that those people who do not really pay attention to it, well, there is no point in paying attention either , there are people who care about it, there are people who are tangential to it, there are people who live in it, there are people who sympathize with this are people who do n't care, there is nothing to appeal to these people who don't care, they need to be either, well , ignored or maybe somehow eliminated, let's say, eliminated as much as possible from having any impact on the future our future and in general on society, on its activities, well, i can express it somehow, but to turn to them, to express some indignation there, something else, this, this is a useless waste of time and it seems to me that it is of no use, i understand

, what you are talking about, i understand, i am there, rarely, but i am in kyiv, in other big cities, and well, yes, there, sometimes it does not feel that there is a war, sometimes, but then the siren sounds, and everyone probably remembers it, well, for the most part, yes, young people, they, they, well, they want to rest, they want to develop somehow. and so on, they have some the future is arranged, they have some connections there, there may be parents and everything else, but these are not the people who are, let's say, an active faction of our people, our nation, who can create the future, and the most important thing is this task of all other people, so that these people are not in any way related to our government, you know, these people should never

come to any positions, to any ranks and so on, this is the main task, this is what i can to tell people all that if you see... uh, that person is not, well, let's say no, cares about our future, was not there, in his, past, there are no normal decent deeds there, i am not saying service in the army, but at least there, at least some normal ones, then no, think about voting for these people sometime, well that is, everyone should understand such things, well, but i will repeat this, and still i want to add a little to what hurts me , of course, of course, please, mr. andriy, yes, look, i want to say this briefly such, for everyone, may be information, it may

have already been and more than once, but in short, it is important, now there is such a situation at the front that there is no, there is no great need , let's say, to spend a lot of people on those events that previously needed it, why, because the first war of drones is really going on, and everyone has already repeated this, probably, who understands this, drones are coming, air drones are coming, sea drones are coming, even ground drones are coming , and even among aerial drones, yes, there are already different directions, different categories, there, first of all, there are reconnaissance ones, bombing ones, kamikaze drones, they sometimes work much better than, even

artillery and aviation, that is, i called it that for myself, such micro-aviation, which really , now can decide, at this stage, decide, the end of this war and this in my opinion, not only mine, this is a very important component, we must pay almost all our attention to it, it is more important even in 16 and, the only thing i can say is that we are a little late with this, our volunteers and the military have also said a lot about it , but unfortunately, the previous leadership of the ministry of defense was there. it counted, wedding drones, it called it, there a year and a year ago there were still the same mavics and so on, and they didn’t want to buy them , and then already there, before his dismissal, the minister took pictures with drones and smiled and said that it was his initiative, in fact, and uh,

very- i would very much like that now, when the enemy has already begun to invest their funds and efforts in this, we can already see everything, so that we do not lag behind in this, this is a very important component, so that the same ukrabromprom, which, in fact, did not, well, do effort, to do something in this direction, so that he would do it for a fee, though prokraban prom there are very difficult and difficult experiences there, unfortunately, and maybe i will say more about it if there is time, that is, this is what i wanted to say, this is first of all, drones, drones and again drones, everyone who helps , please. and please pay attention to this already, at all levels of government, uh, mr. andriy, come on, i 'll just ask you to illustrate a little so that it's clearer to our viewers, we're not saying in which direction you're fighting, no we will clarify, well , if you want something, you yourself will give some tension, if you don't want it, then the point is not in this, you are definitely on

in that direction, where our front line there is more than 1000 km, so we understand that it could be luhansk region, it could be donetsk region, it could be zaporizhia. kherson region and so on, but so that people understand just everyday, everyday wars, this war of drones, which we often see on video, how these drones strike the enemy, we understand very well somewhere that these drones can strike and strike, unfortunately , our soldiers, our fighters, so somewhere there are some opportunities to avoid, somewhere, well, but still, we kill, and unfortunately, they kill, they kill our soldiers, also, that's why it, it's from on the one hand, it's a double-edged sword, and we hit, and they hit us, to put it simply...' here he is in positions, here you go, russian drones, how they annoy, how often they appear, how to oppose them, so that we simply understand how much the enemy is using now, i am talking about lancets , these big ones, what kind of drones are there, if we are talking, and there are of course smaller chinese drones that they use, which was just

an understanding, how difficult it is in this war of drones and how much easier it would be if, let's say, the fleet on our side was two to three times more, at least, please look, well, in short, i will tell you such a fairly clear situation, how the assault is going, both from our side and from the enemy’s side, it is practically, well, in many ways, a similar situation, that is, at first these maviks are hanging , reconnaissance drones that constantly monitor the situation in the direction in which the assault is planned, they hang there both day and night, and look at how many are in positions, how many are entering, how many are leaving, asking to detect which the weapons are there, the next one goes at a certain time, and the previous one goes

artillery preparation, i.e. is poured into this position, arta, there, everything that is possible, er , agesy, everything that can be like this in this case, well, it is necessary, next, goes, exit, exit, a tank is going ahead, maybe two, then several armored vehicles, on which the infantry is moving, it can be inside the bmp, it can be on... it can be outside, well, it doesn’t matter, there are usually three or so units that carry the infantry, the tank goes first and starts opening fire, he can reach the very positions of the enemy, or he can stop somewhere 300-500 m away in a landing, from which he will direct visibility and suppress the infantry in the position with their own guns, that is, if there are two tanks, then it means two, at this time, let’s say there are three infantry armored vehicles, they drive as close as possible to the position, cover

this position with their fire, well there kruptokaniz machine guns there or there, the same bmp guns and so on, and the infantry land, they fire at the maximum, the infantry allow the infantry to take up positions to spread out, disperse, and then they turn around and quickly leave... there, the tanks also move, the infantry is the next to act , er, infantry, itself to herself, in an unfamiliar area, she may not always find her way around, let's say, and here it is very important that at this time she has a connection with those who see it all from above, from above, from drones, that is, with the commanders departments, the commanders of the platoon, those who in this case give on the spot... the command they should almost have a picture there on their phone there and on their tablet there,

which goes online now above this position, and he should see the movement of both the enemy and his own people and prompting them, this is also very important basically, i'm describing it now, it's not some kind of secret, but maybe for people who see it, so that they understand how it all happens. in the best case, with all this, no car will blow up there on temka on a mine, there when leaving , let’s say, well, that is, it is usually possible that one of the cars is blown up, the infantry is almost always there, no, it does not suffer, but we understand, yes cars... still it’s also a pity, that is, these are such assaults, now they go almost along the entire

line of bolknovenia, but with different, with different frequency, that’s it in a nutshell, this is how i described it for everyone, so that it is clear and so on what we need to do, we need to understand that drones, drones, it is clear that we need more , there is an enemy, well, he has tools and he has them, well, this is not a secret either, he has powerful... rap tools, he develops them a lot and he knows this very well, he has good experience in this, we don't have enough of it, that is, at this time when people are storming the positions of, er, the enemy, trying to suppress the uh, communication channels as much as possible to disrupt communication with the drones to blind our fighters who go on an assault, so it is important to always have spares. drones, there should be a lot of them on an assault, there should always be many, many pilots, in addition,

kamikazes and various types of drones can be used during an assault, that’s how mr. andriy is, we, we will now take a short break and then we will return to the conversation and we will continue to talk about and and about and about the war and, as they say, about the political and military life , we will discuss a little more, because it is also important to understand how the military reacts to certain political things, a scandal, how much it affects, how important it is that there should be order in the country, at least in the minds and actions of individual individuals in the kyiv pechersk hills, andriy shyshuk syever stays in touch with us. we will return to the conversation in just a few minutes and continue our worldview, stay with us. no matter what ukrainians think about, no matter what they talk about, war still comes first. war and our victory. only on espresso, from monday to sunday, completely different spheres of human activity. sports, health, politics, return crimea, military analytics. nine presenters, journalists, experts, opinion leaders.

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12:10. we return to the conversation, andriy shishuk is in touch with us. armed forces of ukraine. mr. andriy, you were a major, are you now in the same rank? you, i'm sorry, you are a little they got confused again, i'm not a regular soldier, i wasn't a major, yes, i was a volunteer, and this time i also came 20 that you're a major, well, it's already, it's already my sin, forgive me then, mr. andriy, yes, i want to say that on february 24 of last year i was in the nearest part and was mobilized there, and well... that is, i am not a personnel soldier, maybe, but, but you have already gone through the war, already, i think that this experience of yours, which you have passed, you can already be enrolled in the fact that being a soldier is like your profession, i know, i am now literally 18 minutes left, i want to have time to ask something, what is important for you to say about this, and it is important for people to understand, you know, and