[000:00:00;00] one type of weapon in turn, that's why we assume that each delivery brings our victory closer, but there is no such delivery that we have to wait for, and it immediately guarantees victory, today the deputy head of the security council of the russian federation, dmitry medvedev stated that russia seems to be left with less and less choice except for a direct conflict with nato on the ground, which has turned into an openly fascist bloc, and there is this delusion about hitler's axes and something else, and that we must achieve the victory that was in 1945 year, that is, in its rhetoric, moscow does allow the possibility of a conflict, a direct conflict with nato on the ground, if they allow it, then you will understand, the key word in rhetoric, in rhetoric, let's not confuse their rhetoric for laughs with what they really aim for ready, in reality they know perfectly well what will happen to them in a direct

confrontation. with the nato armies, they, by the way, had custody, so to speak, they had, for example, in syria, when for some reason their internal conflicts there between the towers of the kremlin, angry, angered the wagners and gave the americans a signal on diplomatic channels , we are not there, well, they really are not there, battle battle, the only direct battle between the americans and the russians lasted about an hour, the result was 200 killed wagners, not a single american killed. this is such a big technical and technological difference between these two armies, uh, the russians know this very well, and they will just uh , say everything they need all the time with words, tell the laugher, in fact, they will do just about anything in order not to enter into a direct conflict with nato, well, unfortunately for us, in this case in the case of mutual desire, the russians are madly afraid of a direct conflict with that, but unfortunately nato for some reason is also very

afraid of this direct conflict, therefore... we live in that reality in which they help us, but we will fight ourselves. another event that has been quite actively commented on over the last week is the relationship between poland and ukraine, the grain scandal, russian propagandists are very active in commenting on the statements of polish politicians who are currently in the pre-election parliamentary campaign, who said, well, then we are not there we will supply weapons, meaning the ones that were... on the territory of poland, russian propagandists are comforted, by the way, this has already been designed, as you know, by the polish authorities, i just want to show a fragment when a politician was invited to skybieva's program analyst jacob koreib, and he highlighted all the propagandist myths on skybier's air, that is, they wanted to fuel it with this, but it turned out that everything is not as they imagine in moscow. let's see. yakub, in

short. this scandal may turn into the fact that poland will actually cut back on supplies weapons? well, first of all, over the last year and a half, ukraine has achieved an incredible result from the point of view of polish interests, and for about an hour now we have been in the area not of the implementation of a plan, but simply of the realization of a dream. ukraine has solved all our strategic problems. and in this context it is necessary. will consider all other tactical details, of course, no one will ever stop any support as long as ukraine performs the function that it performs, as long as our interests completely coincide, while that in all directions they coincide, therefore there are no prerequisites for stopping every day that

ukraine erases the forces of russia, increases the polish role in the region as a whole, changes the mechanics of international relations in the entire central and eastern region, even if skabeeva's honesty simply wiped out and after everything that this polish expert said, well, it's clear that poland needs us, by the way, it's interesting what kind of polish expert allows himself to be included... on russian propaganda channels, but at the same time, saying cuts the truth in russian, and what's more, it's just that skebieva probably didn't know what to do, how to exclude him, because he said what poland, in principle, thinks, and ukraine also understands the role of ukraine now for poland, and poland understands the role of ukraine for, well, for the entire region, of course, in connection with this, but

just to finish these conversations, we are in... waiting for a few days to discuss with international people, including, in your opinion, uh, and the role that ukraine is playing now in the region and for the eastern eastern european states. or this means that our path to nato, to which we are going, is very attractive for these countries, and they will be our lobbyists, despite all the grain, some scandals, some misunderstandings with the hungarians, something else, well, they understand perfectly well, that ukraine will be for nato, that is, it is the eastern border with russia, well, let's take hungary out of parentheses, because this is a completely different story, hungary is absolutely, practically no longer a hidden ally of the russian federation, orban is the only full-fledged ally of putin within nato is the european union, that's all another story, this is actually a country that

is formally in nato and the eu, but in fact is on the other side. as for the poles, czechs, slovaks, baltics, of course they will be our lobbyists in nato, but let me remind you that they already are. i will even recall an absolutely disgusting article, i don't remember whether it was in the washington post or the new york times, but it was in one of these two, namely the newspapers that are affiliated with the democratic party in the states, after the villeneuve summit, when one of these newspapers wrote with delight about the courage and resilience of biden, who stood his ground under the frantic, unprecedented pressure of the poles and lithuanians and did not let us go. so, well, let’s put it in parentheses now, where would it be better to apply such steadfastness of biden, but not in which direction, but exactly what, oh, oh oh, let’s say, these sullivanites, these are all the figures who

are afraid to let us go to nato, in the states that they complained about the unprecedented pressure of lithuanians and poles, this is just very revealing, those countries are already our lobbyists in nato, and i think they will remain so in the future, but with the eu again with lithuania and in general, i am baltic confident with poland here will really depend in particular on the nuances under which conditions we will join the eu, especially the economic ones, there really is a direct conflict of interests of our two agricultural sectors, ours and the polish one, and when it comes to big money, here values ​​often take a back seat, but poland itself went through this history , but in exactly the same way, when the poles joined the eu, it terribly disturbed farmers, first of all in france, they were afraid of a big competitor and there were a lot of just such serious obstacles on the path of accession and a whole series of compromises that both the eu and poland had to make, but as a result integration

took place, i think that we are just ahead on a completely logical path. thank you, mr. yevhen, for the conversation, it was yevhen dyky, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, a former battalion commander. friends, we are working live on tv channel uso, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us on youtube, we are conducting a survey, today we are asking you whether ukraine needs nuclear weapons, yes, no, your option, please write in the comments, we ask about it for a reason, because russia constantly uses nuclear weapons as a trump card in conversations with the whole world. and is constantly blackmailing nuclear weapons, so eh, purely hypothetically, if ukraine had nuclear weapons , would it be good for ukraine and ukrainians, and do you support the idea that ukraine should have nuclear weapons, vote, at the end of this

program we will we have the results of this vote, and then we are in touch with oleg katko, military expert, editor-in-chief defense express, mr. oleg, i welcome you, i am glad to see you on our air, good, thank you for the invitation. mr. olezh, the first batches of abrams tanks have already arrived in ukraine, let's listen to what the president of ukraine volodymyr zelensky said, the first american abrams tanks are already in ukraine, we are preparing them to strengthen our actions against the invaders, and this will be a significant strengthening, we are working to to get all... other weapons capabilities that we so need, this applies to the ef-16, the training of pilots and infrastructure is ongoing, this also applies to long-range weapons. at first it is about a batch of 31 tanks, and today

there was information that the white house and the pentagon are considering the possibility of sending up to three dozen m1 abrams tanks to ukraine. at one time, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, valery zaluzhnyi , spoke. about the fact that in order to return the borders to ukraine, as of february 23 , 2022, he needs 300 tanks, which are now deciding on the battlefield 30. the first abrams tanks and another 30, well, 60 abrams tanks. how does it change and does it change the situation in russian and ukrainian the front the fact is that indeed, when zaluzhnya said that 300 tanks must be sold, they were 300 tanks under the conditions that existed then, and that was all, that is, after the talks regarding the transfer of western tanks began and at first there was talk of

i was going, i’ll just remind you that the western countries, the european leopard coalition, should assemble a tank brigade, i.e. approximately 90 vehicles, but it was not done, they assembled two battalions, and let’s say this, according to the signs of what was announced later , then that on the number of leopards of the second, i.e. approximately 90 units, will probably come out only after the withdrawn supplies of machines that are being restored from storage, i.e. it turned out to be a rather long process, and thus in conditions where the usa can transfer as many rams tanks as any coalition was able to transfer leopards in the second, well, yes, it is quite a powerful force, at the same time it must be understood that, as budanov, the head of gurmov, said, he noted that their use... well, it will not be in

the form of some armored fist, which how will they break through something there in the cinema, the modern battlefield dictates completely different requirements for the use of armored vehicles, when the advance of an armored group is noticed in advance, when simply the astronomical saturation of anti-tank means, fpv drones, all this determines, well, completely different tactics for the use of armored vehicles, and it will be completely different of course, from the fact that, for example, it was demonstrated there by whom... during the operation in the storm in the desert, because then at first it was necessary to bombard the enemy's positions for 40 days, only then it is possible to do such armored breakthroughs went on in the desert for four days. well, will we have, let's say, such situations when, as budanov says, there will be very well-planned operations and only there will be these tanks, or from receipts.

a greater number of tanks and american and german leopards, which will allow, well, in some area to have the greatest advantage, because today piskov spoke about the fact that the situation at the front now is such that, in principle, there is no such weapon that allows neither one side nor the other to have an advantage, i.e somewhere there is this balance that has now formed at the front, whether you feel it or you see it. the number of weapons and armaments that is on that side and on our side, that we are somewhere in parity, i do not consider parity, ukraine lags as much as possible in the number of weapons units, in the number of manpower, in terms of resources, in terms of defense-industrial resources complex, for the opportunity to introduce everything else, we need to be realistic, and the fact that we are now talking to you about some so-called ukrainian military, in conditions where the enemy has

more, and on personnel techniques, absolutely insensitivity to losses , this is exclusively because of everything, so yes, when it comes to searching for some silver bullet, because well , it turned out that, well, calls, well, it turned out, or in the information space, that were they constantly looking for some samples of weapons there, there will be attacks for victory tomorrow, there will be aproms the day after tomorrow, there will be something i don’t know that there is a death star already at noon, it doesn’t work like that, the supply complex always works, both quantitative and complex composition, that is, when we talk about what is transmitted abrams, we are talking about them, they will not work like a storm in the desert, because there will not be 3,000 planes in ukraine, which will , well, in the first two days there, they will gain absolute superiority in the air, and then they will start bombing just to the state of stone of the age when just old b50 bombers.

two whole tank divisions mixed in the sand, bombardment with a column, such a situation will obviously not happen, so we are talking about a complex attack, because tanks do not fight by themselves, infantry do not fight by themselves, it all works in a complex and until those the f-16s themselves, of course, it will be extremely necessary to raise issues regarding the army's attack aircraft, attack helicopters, this is also extremely important, this is a comprehensive supply, and this is exactly what victory consists of, you have already mentioned about the tank coalition, or the armored fist that is being formed in ukraine, last week there was information that some of the weapons being transferred from ukraine, from germany are either outdated or do not work, in particular the leopards alone, the head of the ministry of foreign affairs of the federal republic of germany also spoke about this, anna lena burbok in an interview with cnn, let's hear what she said. if

you only promise and don't deliver and even deliver something that doesn't work, it doesn't help, we know that some of what we sent to ukraine at the beginning is not... functional and outdated. i understand that time is short in ukraine, but when we transfer something, it has to work, and this is one of the reasons why germany has not yet sent the long-range taurus missiles, because it wants to make sure that they work properly. here is anna alena berbuk, she talks on the one hand about tanks that are not were completely conditioned, there were up to 10 tanks that the ukrainian side refused. and on the other hand, she says that this deters us from giving taurus, is she telling the truth in this case, because taurus, they are not used missiles, in principle they can fly very far, the only thing that destroys them there is the radius of action of these missiles , as far as i understand, and how

they will be programmed, because they have to be programmed, and the germans constantly say, well, we don’t know how to pass it on to you, you have to learn it, you have to program it so that they don’t fly into the territory of russia, so that they only territory of ukraine. welcomed, where here, there is, the truth, and where there is, well, exaggeration, the fact is that the representative of the government, germany, she said other things, she said that the problems with the pods were at the beginning, obviously we are talking about situations sau pzzx 2000, and there really were problems, because they began to fail, in relation to the leopards of the first, then, first of all, this situation is, it appeared only recently, it is about the fact that the german zmi, one of quite leading, they reported that ukraine refused to accept batch of 10 machines because they are not in proper condition, they were used during training and also there are some problems with maintenance, repair, some of the machines, from the first batch that was announced in july,

there are also up to 10 machines, and- and, that is, the leopards are the first not even to the battlefield yet, and so there are problems with it, at the same time, this is a logical, expected problem with these machines, because the leopards are the first, because they are supplied, well, let's say, from a situation when there are no leopards others, and you need to transfer tanks, and yes, this is a machine that was developed, you need to understand, about what we say, the leopard i is a machine that was developed in post-war germany, in the bombed-out post-war germany in the 50s, relying on the industry that was then in germany in the 50s and the possibility of scientific thought, and appeared it's the leopard first, but to expect... that this car will be some kind of game changer and all that is difficult, because again, we are talking about a rather outdated car that has nothing to do with the leopard friend at all , either in terms of capabilities or for everything else. yes, there

quite an excellent 105 mm gun, a relatively current window control system, which is a little simplified from the leopard 24, the last modernization it underwent in 87, and yes, in the late 80s, we are already talking about ballistics ... calculators, about thermal imagers and a laser rangefinder, because these are technologies, european technologies, american technologies, which were already in the late 80s, were quite actively used, but again, this is a machine that has quite significant flaws, including in the form of ukrainian reservation, and it was decommissioned, when we are told, for example, the same abrams, the same second leopards, they were sold with formations, then from formation units where they were monitored, the fact that the first leopard is a machine that was decommissioned, including, for example, bundesfere, were sold to private companies and for the price tags that were displayed at that time, for which private companies bought these tanks, for example, swiss rau bought a tank for 500 dollars per unit, 500 dollars per tank, this directly speaks not of cheapness, it directly

speaks of his condition, and from after that these tanks, they remained directly in the warehouses of these private companies, for example, such as oip, which is belgian, and it purchased them, by the way, it was more expensive, it purchased 15-17 euros for one tank, but again, this is not the cost of a combat unit, and of course, no one serviced them, and therefore now there is a problem, that is, where to get spare parts for these machines, how to restore them, and it must be understood that if 100 tanks are conditionally transferred, then there should be significantly more sets of spare parts than 100 tanks, relatively speaking, well, these are situations in relation to this car, in relation to the taurus, here, in fact, she told the absolute truth, finally in berlin they obviously admitted , she said that, that’s right, that’s what it’s called, we want them to work, well , great, because in fact, why was

problem, 600 taures were ordered, as of the summer of this year, approximately, a member of the parliamentary defense committee of the bundestag reported that only 150 of them were in operational condition, why, because they were not serviced, because any weapon needs to be serviced, including dwarfs and rockets, and of course 150 rockets - this is taking into account the needs of the bundessphere and everything, but it’s not about anything, this is as many rockets as the russian federation, for example, could release in one day during the autumn and winter campaign, we are talking about the entire total stock of crelat missiles into the bundessphere, as many as the russian federation launched, well, not in one, in two days, well, not that number, and of course they check those missiles that they can transfer, that is, the reserve of 150, it is untouched by eyewitnesses, they admitted it , and those rockets that remained watched, are checked, and this is precisely the problem, not any... escalation, fears, all the rest, and, of course, it is not about the fact that they will somehow be additionally modernized, because ukraine is getting there, well, demodernized,

more precisely, ukraine received scalps and stormshadow, without any modernizations, there is simply a gentleman's agreement regarding the fact that ukraine will not use them on the territory of the russian federation, and this week the first batch of atakams missiles should arrive in ukraine, and zelenskyi talked about this with biden, then through newsweek , drained information about the fact that this will really be the case, but taking into account the needs, the current needs of ukraine, how many of these missiles are needed by the armed forces of ukraine, because it seems that the first batch of them will be quite small, maybe the second one too, small , if so, then how, how can it be explained that these missiles ... of which we probably need more than a hundred, maybe several hundred, to us, well, a few

dozen will come there, to be honest, i simply did not meet in the information that already transmitted, officially announced, maybe, well, let it be, that is i very much believe that, on the contrary, their transfer will be roughly accompanied by a statement from the pentagon, the next one, that during the next call for help, some high-precision weapons were transferred, according to such a standard, according to such a standard wording, according to such a standard, attacks will be hidden and they will already officially recognize that they are being transferred, when the fragments with serial numbers will appear, well, the same situation, as was the case with the harm anti-radiation missiles, which were transferred under the name of anti-radiation means, and already, when everything became clear, that is, there were already photos, there were already everything, but then, well, the usa recognized , well, they passed it there, but they were in this line , and they passed, i think it will be the same in relation to atakamsi, in relation to... needs, then very head gurmou budanov clearly said again in an interview with the drive

that it should not be about a hundred, a hundred will not fundamentally change anything, and hundreds will change, but there is such a thing as the limit resource of these missiles, which are in the united states of america, according to a declassified pentagon report from 2007, it was announced for that year, the number of attacks from the usa, taking into account the fact that ukraine. not just attacks are extremely necessary, but specific attacks with a missile that has a missile that has a range of 300 km and a cluster warhead, that is, a cluster warhead and 300 km at the same time, then according to this report in the usa in 2007 there were four , well, about 500 of these missiles, and the fact is that their production stopped in 2003, and since 2007 there have definitely been more of them, so let's say there are half a thousand missiles there, this is the maximum

limit resource that the usa has at its disposal , but again, when we talk about any weapon, including and especially about missiles , it is necessary to understand that they have certain periods of operation, and the period of operation by attack is 10 years, after 10 years the missile goes to pour solid fuel, for the maintenance of the replacement of electronic components, that is, for such a maintenance repair with an increase in the service life. in the usa they are currently, well, this work was carried out under the sleep program, and quite often these missiles were converted into a unitary missile part, there the weight of 227 kg is objective, well, to understand what 227 kg is, here is 450, well , there is a certain difference in efficiency, and thus , well, let's hope that, after all, in the usa , relevant work was carried out, there is almost half a thousand atakams in cassette version with a range of up to 300 km, and they will be gradually transferred to ukraine. zelensky, returning from washington, said

that a decision had been made. on the joint release of weapons and defense systems with the americans, and this decision is historic what was an absolute fantasy, which has recently become a reality , the president of ukraine declared, and what he is still talking about the production of weapons and the pppo systems that are so necessary for ukraine, let's listen to the supreme commander of the armed forces of ukraine to close the entire territory of our . the state needs more systems than we currently have, the best thing is that we can produce pppo and other advanced weapons, this is indispensable in order to guarantee the security of ukraine, and we will produce step by step, we will build all necessary production, and by the way, we already see a very clear interest of the world to work with us, for the sake of a new defense force, not

only of ukraine, but also of our partners. mr. olezh, in order to guarantee security, ukraine needs weapons, and in order to guarantee the safety of the production of these weapons, it is necessary to make sure that the russians cannot hit the production structures that produce weapons, because today oleksiy danilov, in an interview told the spanish newspaper abc that the russian invaders during one of the attacks they hit the place where ukrainian missiles were manufactured, so part of the production was transferred from ukraine, what is currently happening in the defense complex, the military-industrial defense complex in ukraine, in what way, the state will produce weapons and move towards joint production, including with the united states states of america, will it be on the territory of states neighboring ukraine, or in

what way? in fact, you need to understand what the creation of a new localization company is. the production of any equipment, for example, if well, without imagination, but simply that to take direct examples, for example, now there is an order for infantry fighting vehicles in romania, they announced that they are ready to do it, announced the budget and terms, and according to this program, roughly speaking, only for the branching of the production itself after signing the contract, two years, it's actually quite fast, and in fact, these times will be in the blink of an eye. the exercise should be applied there, but the terms should be understood to be approximately the following, that is, from the moment of the beginning of the agreements, that is the beginning of the works and the first there, the first experience, well, the first sample, which was produced on the new the enterprise will succeed in at least two years, these are real terms, usually it is even longer, but here you just need to understand that there are two separate tasks, i.e. the first task

is a weapon for victory and the second task is a weapon that will be in the armed forces ukraine , after the victory, and these are two separate programs, which , in my opinion, should not be mixed, because otherwise, well, it is simply possible not to do one or the other. in this situation, the main task of the ukrainian defense industry is obviously to repair, restore, the equipment that is now is transferred to ukraine, a reduction of precisely such logistical moments, when, for example, now the leopard-2 tanks, which were damaged during hostilities, are going to poland for repair, well, it is quite logical that, well, as much as possible, this process should be more actively involved ukrainian defense enterprises to repair them in ukraine and thereby reduce a certain technological cycle, well, at least for transportation, and of course the acquisition of new competences and all the rest, this process is obviously already going on and going quite successfully.

the next aspect is the production of those weapons, which is the development of new modernizations of the existing ones, and, of course, in a situation where every piece of ukrainian... land is under the sights of the long-range missile weapons of the russian federation, then, well, this is where the aspects related to transferring production begin , there are some moments on the territory of the partner countries, and it is very wonderful that the partner countries do not provide such opportunities, and the third aspect is precisely the beginning of the creation of production, for example, the licensed production of armored vehicles, as you know, for example, the situation regarding the desire to produce this bmp, the swedish, systems company is an international giant, one of the top-five to at least the top-10 companies in the world of defense, but again, we provide a certain time, which is simply necessary to to start having already signed a firm agreement, to start building technological cycles and everything else, so, well, most likely, such a process will