[000:00:00;00] greetings, i would like to discuss with you the latest statement of the president of the european parliament, she, roberta mytsola, she says that the formal negotiations of ukraine on membership in the european union should begin this year, and in principle it can happen before christmas, and she emphasizes at the same time that the european parliament, the european union must carry out internal reforms in order to prepare for the next waves of expansion, to start... accession negotiations, it is noteworthy that they are now talking about reforms in the european union itself, and not reforms in ukraine, because we usually talk in the context of our homework, which we are doing , but nevertheless, david rahami said the day before that the ukrainian parliament has already completed almost 99% of everything it has committed to do - committed to do in order to for these negotiations to begin, now it's up to

the government, robertalo is talking about reform to the european union itself, what exactly is it about? well, really , first of all it should be said that there is a decision of the european commission, and about the possibility of the very beginning of negotiations, respectively simply as the next stage of ukraine's integration into of the european union, what matsola is talking about is due to the fact that there has been no expansion of the european union for a long time, we remember perfectly all those discussions that were heard, yes, in the context of the fact that there was an expansion, that is, there were the voices of the same french and germans who were skeptical of the expansion and said that perhaps it should not be done now, we also remember the presence of the balkan countries, respectively , which also have the corresponding desire, well, some more, some less, c someone has more progress, someone less and still there are discussions, no, this does not

apply to moldova, right? moldova is a separate issue, and it is generally about the balkan countries that wish to become full members of the european union, respectively, this is a dialogue that the serbs are conducting there, and other countries, respectively, so there is obviously a need to agree on this within the european union , to coordinate it with those financial, let's say, infusions, yes, or there that are needed. plus again they miscalculate the impact as a whole on the european union, with the fact that a country like ukraine is quite a large country with a correspondingly large population, how will it affect in general the economic, social situation, and so on, because again, everyone is fine understand that this is a process, a process that will take some time , that will require appropriate changes on the part of ukraine, but again, it will be

stretched, let's say in time, and which of these stages will have its impact on the general situation in the european union we understand, yes, that they still feel the consequences of the covid-19 crisis, as well as the war of russia against ukraine, it also brought about appropriate changes in the socio-economic, let's say , the environment of the european union, that's why it needs an appropriate dialogue and discussion, in order to remove some cautions and some certain problematic issues and to have a really consolidated... decision , that is, a consensus, regarding the parameters of the entry, respectively, of ukraine and the understanding that this will affect the future of the european union, because on the one hand we have a valuable dimension that is perfectly understood, yes, in fact, ukraine defends, let's say, europe, including eastern european countries that are already part of the european union, in terms of precisely the relevant security component, the threats posed by the russian federation, but there is another question along with this of an economic

nature. we have a situation with a grain problem, yes, let's say that it has arisen, well, there are many other points that can also have an impact, so european, let's say , diplomacy and the european union, it requires consideration and calculation of all certain threats and, accordingly, their minimization, but at what stage will we meet this skepticism as much as possible, and what is hungary worth , because we know that they will certainly not support us, and what can we say, if we have recently heard statements from the minister of agriculture of poland that they will be against us becoming part of the european union, because we will be part of these free markets, and it is not yet clear how each of the countries will now protect their national interests, well look at the statements from poland, they are more dictated by the electoral cycle, that is,

the elections. which exactly on october 15 will take place there and with that schedule of forces, which is also the sociology that we directly have , because to poland, i think, we will be able to find a suitable common language here, and they were and remain: one of such advocates of the accession of ukraine to the european union and, accordingly, to nato. as for hungary, well, hungary will really try to use the issue of ukraine's accession as something to play on and get the maximum number of benefits, yes, that is, they bargain with something, somewhere they will slow down something, but in general, as practice shows, hungary is subject to certain pressures, yes, well, sometimes with a whip, sometimes with a gingerbread man, but still yes to the general decisions of the european union, so i think that here too it will be possible to find relevant influences in order to minimize this risk, a separate track is again the balkan countries, since there, well, let's say, they have long since declared their

desire, let's say to integrate, not everyone is ready to quickly perform certain household tasks, respectively, but still they have certain reservations that the entry into ukraine can happen faster, respectively. for them, this, too, requires a certain, let's say, such dialogue, well, but again, they will influence the decision to a lesser extent here, well, since they will not adopt it directly, since they are not part of the european union, well, about those countries which i am talking about, that is why, in principle, it seems to me that the decision, well, there is a common understanding, yes, that ukraine should become part of the european union, and it will happen, so i don't think there will be any discussion about it here. and here is the question of the parameters of accession, the parameters of certain obligations that ukraine can and should assume, respectively, this will be discussed, in particular, when the negotiations begin, respectively , on accession, here of course there will certainly be

wishes from the different countries, but again, this is a question of dialogue, where we can insist on something, other countries can insist on something, and always, you know, the result of a certain compromise, at one time, when the same poland joined the european union, they also had a number of requirements in terms of internal legislation and many others, and not all of them were fulfilled, but still the decision was made, it was produced you know, political motives, so there is no need to be afraid here, but here we just need a dialogue, advocacy, let's say of certain positions, and of course results according to those decisions, yes, according to those directions, according to those beacons, which will be agreed upon, and, well here is an obvious political one expediency, right now, as far as our integration into the european union is concerned, we have literally a minute left, but i can't help but ask you about the list of reforms that

the white house is now demanding from us, and for some reason it's not only being said now in the context of aid from states to us, and also in the context of european integration, why do we receive recommendations from the united states on how to reform... in order to become part of the european union, why are the states developing a road map for us in the eu? well, look, it's all among themselves in principle interconnected, yes, since in fact ukraine wants to become a full-fledged member of such a western community, and here we are not talking about tying, for example, these reforms to the help that we receive in connection, according to russia's war against ukraine , we are talking about the directions of reform, which in many respects correspond to the obligations that ukraine will take upon itself by joining the european union, plus this is again the subject of dialogue, that is, there are general, well, such directions, yes, they correlate with those

which we know very well, we are discussing, they correspond with the interests of ukrainian society, respectively, so we really need such a general road map with all our partners and, accordingly, the most important allies, that is, it is not, you know, some such... ultimate, let's say, tasks, yes, this is precisely the subject of dialogue, and it is, in principle, a normal process, for which we are, in principle , ready, which is in our interests, the most important thing is that we have the political will, yes, we understand the position of the president, we have the public will , look at sociological polls, and regarding the integration of ukraine into the eu and, accordingly, into nato, so the issue is already of an instrumental nature, it is the work of the parliament, respectively, and yes, it is a big piece, let's say what we have to do, but again, this what we are ready for, and what we have discussed in principle for a long time and understood the need to implement these measures, this is not something

new, there is something so terrible, there is already a response from the president's office, in particular mykhailo podalyak said that it is true, these wishes, they are of a recommendatory nature, that is not a requirement, i thank you, ihor petrenko, a political scientist, was with us in the telethon "edyni novyni". an increase in the minimum wage will have a positive effect on economic processes in the country, according to doctor of economic sciences , vasyl furman, who the expert now sees as grounds for improving the lives of ukrainians already next year, let's hear now. mr. vasyl, i welcome you to the broadcast of the marathon , i congratulate you, and we will discuss, discuss with you the pleasures for ukrainians, however, i would like to hear from you, as a specialist,

how this is possible. how will it affect in based on macroeconomic indicators, the minimum wage will increase in ukraine in 2024, i.e. next year, it will happen in two stages, and first, the government approved an increase in the minimum wage, from january 1, such a wage will be uah 7,100, and from april 1, it will be uah 800, however, it is now planned in the budget estimate that the deputies should vote and approve it. tell me, do we now have grounds for such an increase? thanks for the question, well if we're talking about inflation, that is what affects also the the income level of our people for price growth, then last year inflation there was 26.6% , that is, well, if we are talking about this year, well, again, there are different forecasts, if it

will be, for example, there and then this already, the reduction occurred somewhere at the level of 26.6 + 10, i.e. 37%, therefore it is clear that during this period of time it is necessary to raise the social standards of our citizens, therefore the increase of the minimum wage in the budget of 20-24, well, yes, you are right they said, the deputies must first vote, we hope that it will happen voted, it is positive, this is a positive decision, it is clear what the minimum wage is, it is the minimum wage that the employer must pay in ukraine, the average wage, again, it is much higher in our country, if again look at the indicators of the 20-24 budget, then the average average monthly salary next year should be at the level of 21,00, 852 hryvnias on average, this is in the next year's budget, so the project that will be approved. macro forecasts, that is, if

if you look at the average monthly wage this year, it is planned to be around uah 18.18 according to forecasts, that is , the average monthly wage will increase by 20.6% next year, so what is changing is the increase in the minimum wage , that is, on the one hand a small number of enterprises pay the minimum, that is, the vast majority still pay more wages, therefore the average wages are higher, but this is a positive decision, what is: an increase in the minimum wage, that is, it means that the standards, social standards of our people are rising, this enterprise needs to increase labor productivity, increase investments, and this means that the incomes of the population will increase, well, from your words , i understood that this is still the result of inflationary processes, it is not the result of economic growth is the result of inflation, because there is a concept of a minimum salary, there is a concept of a real salary, a real salary is what a ukrainian can buy for himself with these costs. well, yes, that is, the real

salary, that is, what is there, you are right, it's just, well, how does inflation affect certain indicators there, on the one hand, but the fact that even before the war the minimum wage was raised , and significantly, twice, i remember, there were periods when it was raised, well, then there were other indicators, that is, that is why today, well, in my opinion, this is definitely the right decision, so you understand that the highest minimum wage is in switzerland in geneva, that is, it is clear that we need to go there to these indicators, i.e. still a long, long time, but the goal, of course, i.e., and everyone is also interested in what the dollar exchange rate will be, because if we have already talked about inflation, whether the hryvnia will be strong, actually since the last one, yes, the hryvnia resumed its growth on the cash market, the average dollar exchange rate in the arms market decreased to 38-20 for dollar, the euro rate fell to uah 40, 90 kopecks. it is clear that this is all situational, and in principle

there is a correlation every day, and can you predict the corridor of the hryvnia exchange rate, according to the dollar, for october? look, the national bank of ukraine, it does not give a forecast, well, this is the right decision, moreover, i would even say that no one can involve, so no one can predict today, even if you involve many economists there, because we have today, if we talk about exchange rate policy, that is, policy, we have a fixed exchange rate of 36.6 and there is an exchange rate cash, just about which you just spoke, which deviates insignificantly from the fixed exchange rate, the national bank of ukraine pays a lot of... a lot of attention to ensuring macroeconomic stability in our country, including currency stability, financial stability, i.e. this is extremely important, and the indicators we have today on and in various segments of the financial market, including the currency market, are a great work of the national bank of ukraine, inflation is decreasing in our country, if at the beginning of the year

it was 26.6, well, we have august pension indicators of 8.6%, that is, we see such a significant disinflationary trend, we have high gold and currency reserves of the national bank of ukraine - this is a guarantee that, well, if we are talking about the stability of ukrainian hryvnias, that is, they amount to more than 40 billion dollars and potentially they will grow, that is, we also have significant international financial assistance from our partners, this is a big plus, we, if we are talking about the economy, that is, if we look at the 2024 budget, there is a government macro forecast, then the planned gdp, according to the government forecast, in next year it will grow there by n. that is, this is a good indicator, even if you look at the government's macro forecast regarding inflation, then inflation there and from december to december there is at the level of somewhere, well, a little more than 10%, that is, these are low inflation indicators, that is, the national bank macro indicators, macro well he will update the indicators for next year in

october of this year, and there we will see gdp, inflation, and gold reserves. and so on, therefore, if we are talking about the exchange rate of the ukrainian hryvnia, that is, it is quite stable today and the situation in the short-term period is stable and controlled, there is no need to worry about the ukrainian hryvnia, but it is expedient, we see, by the way, that people trust the ukrainian hryvnia, the remaining funds of individuals and legal entities in the banking system in the hryvnia are growing significantly faster than in dollars, well, this is a huge plus, we see such an improvement in the inflation and devaluation expectations of our people. that is, it is clear that inflation is decreasing, that is, in the state, business, investment and entrepreneurial sentiments are improving, yes , i understand that there is a war, it is not easy, it is difficult, but at the same time business is working, developing, financing our defense, this is extraordinary is important, but, well, here anyway, for the sake of justice, it must be said that due to all our

economic processes, the red thread is now everything after all, our dependence lies on our allies, on our partners, because we are waiting, in particular... and that the united states will approve aid in the amount of 24 billion, this is critically important for us, let's say this, because president zelensky, a big number, a big number, we thank our partners, i'll just give you some numbers , just as of today, in these 19 months of war, we have received from our partners more than 60 billion in financial aid, this year, if we talk about this year , then we plan to receive 42 bln dollars, international financial aid is also planned in the budget for next year, that is, you see, we are constantly returning to the budget , there is also a deficit of 43 billion dollars, which should also be financed thanks to international financial aid, the higher political leadership of the state is doing a great job for to

get all the financing, because today we have this currency stability, inflation that is decreasing, that is, indicators that are growing, including thanks to the international financial thanks to our soldiers, who reliably hold the defense, because, for example, if we take last year, remember, there was something wrong with the hryvnia, inflation was a little high, because the national bank printed significant funds, that is, to maintain our the army, the budget, especially, it was the right decision for the period of time, because again, a big war, no one expected such a scale, that is, while work was being carried out to attract funds, then last year the national bank printed uah 400 million to support the ukrainian army, for in this the national bank has not been printing hryvnias for 2018, well, not secured hryvnias, that is, we hope that this trend continues, thank you for the conversation, vasyl furman, doctor of economic sciences,

despite everything, russia wants to keep the status it lost as a member state of the un council, believes executive director of the ukrainian helsinki union of human rights, oleksandr pavlich. is there a chance for ukrainian terrorists to regain this status? let's talk further. mr. oleksandr, i welcome you to the broadcast of the telethon. congratulations, let's talk about human rights, about rights ukrainians and how to resist the russian invasion. the russian federation plans to rejoin the un human rights council in the upcoming elections to be held in october. excluded the reports of the aggressor a year after the start of the full-scale invasion of ukraine and the bbc received a copy of the document with a statement of the position, which russia distributes among the members of the un at the request. about support, tell me, does russia have a chance to return? eh, you see, russia is trying to play with

diplomatic tools and use them to show that it seems to be a civilized, normal and even somewhat legal state, and actually they seek to retain the status they lost as a member state of this council, and in fact, they were excluded, it was such a diplomatic slap, unfortunately, the matter did not go further and they have remained and there are no mechanism tools to date to exclude them for security treason, as a core member, a permanent member of the security council, and they want and seek to return to their lost positions in the same human rights council, respectively, elections that have

to take place on october 10, they are under pressure from the russian delegation, which seeks , through bribery and other connections, to influence a number of states that have certain relations with russia, support them, and accordingly, the world is non-unipolar, and those who does not really like, let's say, the united states, for example, or some other states, they automatically go to the side of those who stand in opposition and, let's say, deny and express some arguments against this state, there, against european democracies , against nato, and accordingly, these are the states of the global south, we know these states, this is central east asia, these are the states that were supported by the soviet union and those

old ties that were developed, and weapons, and trade, and support for those regimes, in part even created that soviet union, it all works today in the global world, and we see that the war that russia unleashed in ukraine actually illuminates all the processes as such, an amplifier, an indicator, actually requires a decision, or everything will take place according to the same developed standards and the procedures that were already established and worked for decades, and in fact, they do not reproduce the reality and veracity of the situation, and this is exactly what russia is trying to achieve. the russian federation, using these mechanisms, or there will be reformatting of all these procedures and

even clear prohibitions will be established, not only because, say, the state is an aggressor, which is officially recognized by the decision of the general assembly of the united nations, but also because of possible some more radical decisions made, even from suspension. status membership in the organization, let me remind you that , for example, such decisions were made at the level of the council of europe, and decisions, for example, of the parliamentary assembly of the committee of ministers, regarding the inconsistency of the same third article of the statute, for example, of the council of europe, a violation of the principle of the rule of law, if it was not observed, the state was either with suspended membership , or could be, could be withdrawn, the united nations organization does not have such safeguards, and in fact... it remains hostage to this situation, so

the question of whether russia can hypothetically to acquire this membership and be elected, hypothetically so, but in fact , most likely, this will not happen and it will again be a certain diplomatic slap to russia, which should once again confirm its status as an aggressor state and one that, let's say, should undergo constant emphasis of this status. but over there in the un human rights council, there are currently two seats and albania and bulgaria are also claiming them, and the russian federation, it’s a kind of game of chairs, yes, someone third is superfluous, it’s just hard to imagine what after one and a half years full-scale war in ukraine, war against ukraine, there will still be those who will support russia among the three.

this is true, but we understand the assessment from the position of ukraine from the position of democratic states, and i would like to remind you that not all states, and this position, and these positions, and therefore, taking into account that russia still has, exerts a certain influence on the nature of the states , this is diplomatic, this is economic influence, we are already talking about the fact that russia , even with its presence in african states, is supporting certain undemocratic governments at bayonet, and this also creates for them, additional opportunities for these governments to actually act ex officio. position on very official sites, which is the united nations organization itself. actually, this is all the reality of today, which, in my opinion, should also be reevaluated from the point of view of the formation of this international mechanism, ensuring security at the global level, and this is the process we are talking about with you, the return of russia, or

the return, possible election as a member... of the human rights council, the united nations, this actually, in fact, it is as if a certain consolidation, as a more or less civilized normal state, in which everything is in order with human rights, which can itself act as a certain evaluator, ensuring human rights in another, in other states, but we understand that there, after russia, only north korea can be chosen, and then everything will be so to speak... it will be completely filled with the most democratic states on this planet, well, there are also a number of other states where there is also a big problem with this, but we are talking about the fact that a certain and

a filter so that its individual states cannot even think about the fact that they can be candidates or even be nominated for such positions, if this is true, there will be, let's say, an institution that will ensure, will ensure the appropriate level of monitoring, control , observance of human rights at the global level. 104,000 war crimes have already been registered in the office of the prosecutor general of ukraine, these are crimes against ukraine against ukrainians committed by the russian federation, and for now our cooperation with the international criminal court intensified, we have had a field office of the iss for almost a week, tell us that this representation is located here, what does it give us and in what way does it speed up the moment of truth, the moment of justice for us? in relation to accelerates, perhaps, it is still too early to speak, therefore analysis, and compliance, with those

requirements of proving crimes, in accordance with those procedures. which are established at the level of the international criminal court, and this is, on the one hand, a rather difficult matter, let's say, because it requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt, that is, there were no doubts and the decision could not be appealed , accordingly, in the case of a decision by the international criminal court, i remind you, there is no appeal or cassation instance there, that is, it is a single decision that is not subject to appeal. that is, it is not about speed, it is about quality, it is about quality, it is about standards. and this is about training the ukrainian side, ukrainian prosecutors, investigators, to those labor standards that are actually developed and applied at the level of the international criminal court, this is the first and second - agree, agree, and the second - it is, after all, a deeper immersion of them in all the material and access for all to the entire database and