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more than a year and a half of the war, putin never recorded the goals of this war. first there was denazification, then the protection of the people of donbas, the right to the russian language and the like. but let's recall lavrov's recent visit to the un general assembly, where he suddenly spoke about recognizing the territorial integrity of ukraine. that is, and even, by the way, there are many in the russian public and in the expert environment. er , such messages about peace, that is, they begin to feel that the russian population is tired of this war, because it is without results, it impoverished nations and essentially deprived the russian federation itself of any perspective, therefore, in this sense, in parallel with shoigu's baton waving, we are absolutely observing some ra...
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military at the front, but recently the ukrainian military destroyed the d- 44, this is a hoax that was issued 80 years ago, during the second world war, this is the first, second, this panic behavior with the choice, whether to announce mobilization or quietly contract, the debtors, and all this indicates that the kremlin... how much the clan got tangled up in their goals and in the way of getting out of this war, here they are, they are now all over their behavior, one can read the search for a model of getting out of this war, but how can you get out of this war without paying reparations to ukraine, not by returning the occupied territories, the world won't accept that.
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and most importantly, ukraine will not accept, so here they are, they are just biding their time in the hope that something will change, for example, trump will win in the states, and if trump wins in the states, it will not mean that trump will say, well, take half of ukraine, you are good guys there in moscow, and i am here, me now i'm waving my finger at the ukrainians, let them sit and wear a rag, it's impossible, so to speak, everything looks comical, well, but they, they pull, it's like, uh, well, a cancer patient , all the time invents that some shaman will help him, there is no need to go to the doctor, no need to undergo chemotherapy, it is better to wait and then some shaman will come, give one herb, and that's it, everything will change, health will return, nothing will come back, you have already mentioned lavov and his statement regarding the territorial issue
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integrity of ukraine, but there at the un general assembly, the minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation spoke about the obligations that the ukrainian state took upon itself during the adoption of the declaration of state sovereignty, that is, as of july 16, 1990, and he constantly refers to this , says: listen, well, according to the declaration, ukraine should be a non -aligned state, although lavrov does not explain that at that moment... ukraine approved this declaration regarding non-alignment, regarding the soviet union, regarding those blocs that this is not an obligation to russia, this is an obligation to the soviet union, this is the first and second, russia attacked ukraine in the 14th year, when ukraine really was a non-aligned state, he does not mention this fact, ukraine really was a non-aligned state, not only that, ukraine.
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ceded to russia, the contract for basing the black sea fleet for 50 years, i.e. in the 17th year , the russian fleet had to leave the territory of ukraine, we recall the kharkiv agreements, absolutely fraudulent, for which a lot of people have now been imprisoned, but they were planted so diligently that part of those people who voted for the kharkiv agreements are still in the verkhovna rada, and for some reason they belong to the ruling servant of the people party. , that is, how do you think moscow wants to return to the agreement that was not signed in the spring of 2022, when the negotiations were held, and this point, by the way, was quite actively discussed then, that, for example, the non-aligned status of ukraine could lead to ukraine being any warranties given
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from the side of moscow, flew to belarus, flew to istanbul, our negotiators and these negotiations were, and then suddenly, after the arrival. to kyiv, boris johnson, everyone, all the conversations simply ended and there were no more negotiations, and putin just a few months ago shook in front of journalists, here is this document, which they say the ukrainian side did not initial, they want to drive ukraine back into this negotiation process with under such conditions, and now a pause is very important to them, and what their declaration of readiness to recognize territorial integrity gives. of ukraine, this prolonging long-term negotiations with the occupation troops remaining in the territories they now control, they will deceive, the point is that it makes no sense for the russians, russia, to conclude bilateral agreements with russia, because in fact
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, russia violated a large interstate agreement, she violated it was back in 2008, when from the territory of ukraine it was under...' to raise the black sea fleet in violation of the bilateral agreement, because in this agreement there is , for example, a clause about not using each other's territory in aggression against other countries, third countries, russia violated it , russia constantly violated all agreements, that is why we cannot hold any negotiations with russia now, it seems to me that lavrov was probing the ground for the fact that they are even ready to leave the entire territory of ukraine, including crimea. to ukraine, well, for pro forma, for crushing their own population, they, they are ready to bargain for, so to speak, neutrality, but he did not emphasize it much, in fact, he tried, well, in the negotiations, there is a lot of insider information, now, lavrov probed ,
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the situation for the world to refuse to pursue war criminals, and to, well, be of a purely symbolic nature, that is, in fact, it is about them leaving ukraine, but this nazi russian regime remains, and then, i believe, when we preserve it, it will be in 5 years - 7-10 will attack, the very end of our program, i would like very briefly to talk about what happened in the parliament of canada, because last week zelenskyi was... in the parliament together with justin trudeau, and there was already a ukrainian veteran there , 98-year-old yaroslav, yaroslav gunko, and
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he was presented as a hero, and then it turned out that he fought in the sss of galicia, and a very, very big scandal in canada, a very big scandal in russia and in the world, how is this, how did it happen, what do you say, who and how it fuels this, because the speaker of the parliament resigned because of it and justin trudeau had to justify himself a lot, well, actually, this is a very strange story, because, for example, at least 50,000 ukrainians fought on the side of canada in the second world war, according to secondly, the division of sss halychyna, this is vafs, this is field, this an army division, it's not a punishment, it's not sss, sss. those classic german ones, among national minorities, so to speak, did not exist, these are exclusively german units, this wafs is a linear, infantry division that took part in
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the battles at the fords, it held out there for three days, was actually defeated, after that interno , well, i stayed in germany for some time, they are nowhere... in any documents, the nuremberg tribunal, the sss division does not appear as war criminals, so this whole scandal, of course, he cut off, so to speak, some additional, well, such media growths, that is, it is heated too much, but i think that the ukrainian community will find a mechanism to overcome this situation, especially since there are many parliamentarians, ukrainians in the current parliament. thank you, mr. volodymyr, for the conversation, it was volodymyr tsybulko, political expert, people's deputy of ukraine of the fourth convocation. friends, we are working live on tv channel as well as on our
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of the espresso tv channel and the atp tv channel, we are talking about the reintegration, de-occupation of ukrainian crimea and its liberation from the russian invaders, a lot of information about the reasons have recently been devoted to the topic of the peninsula, this applies both to the military aspect, and of course, to the civilian, purely humanitarian aspect, the situation on the peninsula. it does not get easier, but the official position of ukrainian representatives is that all those who can leave the territory of crimea should do so in view of the security challenges in connection with the imminent liberation of the peninsula and military operations related to him. as usual, i congratulate my co-host ayder muzhdabayev, ayder. salam alaikum. good morning, khrystyna, how nice it is to hear you speak the crimean language coolly, coolly, without an accent. i am improving,
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it is not easy for me, but, yes, the crimean tatar language. is now the focus of my attention, not every day, but the focus of my attention. ayder, again, a lot of informational reasons are now connected with crimea, and probably the most massive of them is the attack on sevastopol, without exaggeration, the jewelry attack on the headquarters of the black sea fleet, and this operation is called a "crab trap", because on the eve of this attack , another one actually happened, which struck the protected headquarters of the occupiers. which, and this is the first attack, actually left them with no option but to gather in the traditional city, in the center of sevastopol, and well, what actually happened there, and what were the consequences, we are gathering information now, there was a lot of speculation on the topic of did the head
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of the black sea fleet, sokolov, die, and for some reason the ministry of defense of the russian federation... wants to confidently tell everyone in the world what happened to him everything is fine, and even at the meeting with shoigu , he is present online, even the zvizda tv channel of the ministry of defense broadcasts something from his messages, so let's listen to one of these messages now. the black sea fleet confidently successfully fulfills the tasks it has set for the commanders in front of it. successfully performing the tasks of surface forces, and underwater forces, and naval aviation, and shore troops, you know that the exploits of our marines , by decree of the president of the russian federation, practically do not leave the screens of central television federation, our 810th marine brigade,
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is now not only of the ushakov and guards orders. returned not only the orders of zhukova and gvardeyskaya, but also the order of ushakova, this is probably the first in the history of the navy of the marine infantry unit that was awarded the order of lushako. it is interesting that putin signed this order, or rather, the decree on awarding this order, specifically to this brigade, on august 29, that is, this direct speech of sokolov is absolutely not a fact that is fresh. i would not like to go into some kind of necrophilia right now and figure out whether it is alive or dead. but less so aydar, the fact that the topic of crimea is becoming so active now and in terms of security, what are the moods on the peninsula, maybe you have some additional information?
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well, the attitude, i will say this, all normal people are delighted, and also , i am simply conveying the request, the desire, of our people in the crimea, that there would be more and more such baboons, and how they react to this, and this story from the alleged with the commanding fleet alive or dead, it is very revealing, as well as the revealing reaction of the propaganda media, well, so that our viewers understand no information on russian tv channels, which this deputy mayor mentioned. the head of the fleet, and there is no information, and if so, i completely understand, then the consequences, well, are so important for them, and there is nothing surprising here, they, i think that when he talks about the successes of the black sea fleet, well, of course, of course
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it's good that there is some order of ushako, they got someone there, some brigade there, i'll just remind you that ushakov is almost the only one known, well, apart from nakhimov, to convince a russian admiral there, because the russian fleet is a very unsuccessful project, he , was not successful since the time of peter i, and there and then there, it was strengthened, developed, catherine i, etc., but it has such a property, in the black sea, especially the fleet, it always sinks, well, that’s how it happens, i don’t know, and that’s what now, what success they have, well, in the surface fleet it becomes a submarine, this is absolutely normal, and the commander, whether alive or not alive, that is, i am not cheerful at all. i don't see it in their submission of information, that is, the fleet is intimidated, the crimean occupiers are intimidated, this is absolutely ridiculous, and
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they behave completely differently, they are hiding now, they are trying to find out there, how did it happen that they were hit during their meeting there, i don’t know the insert there , what it’s called, but it will continue, because our people are working there, intelligence is working, our air... forces gur is working, we are all working on the liberation of crimea and, i don't know, i would have already packed my bags in their place , i think they are doing that, they just don't talk about it in the interview, you said that their feeling is getting stronger, well the approach of something irreversible, not to mention fear, and in such a state they very often resort to more greater pressures and repressions on civilians on... on the active or even potentially active part of this civilian population, what we know now about possible searches, pressures on already
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imprisoned, in particular, crimean tatar activists, how about this, well, i don't have statistics , of course, and there is really increased pressure there now, and they are not only doing something publicly there , but now, in order to punish or arrest a person there. there is absolutely no need to do it publicly, well, war is war, and the pressure is crazy, in principle, well, you know, when i first heard this statement, mr. minister of foreign affairs occupied territories, about the fact that everyone should be from crimea, well, the first reaction was negative, to be honest, well, how come, well, to go from crimea, yes, it’s like that for every person from crimea, that is, people are waiting there for ukraine, and from on the other hand, i thought. that those who are threatened by, well, directly, the repressive apparatus, who are threatened by conscription into
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the so-called russian terrorist army, it is really better to hide, and this process really continues, and many people write and, by the way, help the armed forces of ukraine, or seven there they went to poland, to completely different countries, through different countries, well, this is the situation, but who decided to leave... this, he is waiting for ukraine , i mean our people, of course, and not those who are occupiers or collaborators there, and those who remain, precisely thanks to those , who stayed and who gives information, our armed forces have the opportunity to hit like this, cool and more, this will continue, that is , no one will give them security guarantees, that is , the occupied side, on the one hand, it is very important that people are preserved physically and mentally , therefore the call for evacuation during hostilities looks reasonable. on the other hand , we understand that these people are helping now and
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can help the defense forces in the future, facilitate the de-occupation, the march through the crimean peninsula and the expulsion of the russian occupiers. without this core, which already helps to carry out such operations as strikes on the headquarters of the black sea fleet. or the disposal of russian air defense and entire s-400 divisions, well, without the work of these people, it is difficult to imagine how our defense forces can remotely study crimea, so the question is, i would say, very difficult dare, and first of all i am an example, maybe a little subjective, but i stand on the topic of the fact that it is important for our people to be preserved and uh, if it can be done on the territory of the crimean peninsula, then please use all for this
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measures, if it can be done only after leaving there, well, it means so, but to be honest, this institution, which sounded, i can imagine how the crimean ukrainians reflect on it, how the representatives of other nationalities in crimea also reflect on it, but it is very difficult for me... how about this call it was the crimean tatars who reacted, since they have a special attachment to this particular land, and to leave it again for any reason, for some of them, for most of them, it is quite traumatic, well, i 'll tell you so, and and to all viewers, elderly people, people who, well, i don't know, who were there, spent a long time in exile... they absolutely do not want to leave the peninsula even in these conditions and they encourage their young people there
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to hide somewhere or go , really, well listen, become part of the terrorist army, when there, well, there is such a threat, absolutely objectively, it is not the best option, to surrender as a prisoner, maybe, but it is difficult in the conditions of the front, a hot war, so this process is simple now, i know how many people, well, left there with children, but older people, they are the opposite, they want to stay and don't want to go, and for them every such operation is a holiday, i don't know, maybe there, ours, ours actually don't really hide, well, that is, everyone discusses it with each other and - they tell the occupiers, in principle, directly on the household level, well, what do you like, well, i like it, then think about what to do next, our old people are very brave and
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so... they are simply not worth counting, i know people who are 80, 70, and more, and they are not you you're absolutely right, you know, when your whole life, half your life, the best years of your life are spent in a foreign country, well, it's very difficult, i just remember my grandparents, well, i don't know what could have forced them leave the crimea, they they always said that we want to die there, well, that's clear, not that a person wants to die, but that to die, to die on our own land, well, this is our attitude towards crimea, and that is why for us this land is absolutely sacred, and by the way, some of those who left crimea also turn to the crimean tatar 48th separate security unit, and we we call them people who
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can. of course, not the old, but the young, who can and should take up arms, hoshkeldnes, we ask you to this unit , which is just now being formed, and will soon enter the battle in the southern direction, in the direction of our native crimea, and i think that every person who associates himself with crimea. not necessarily the kremlin, and other people, i see almost every day people who serve and come to the unit, they all yearn and all dream of the moment when they will cross the chongar, well , of course, before that, they will liberate, liberate the south ukraine, there is very, by the way, after this, the blowing up of the kakhovskaya dam, the situation there is very difficult, well, it is simply very difficult
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to advance, therefore... we need such means that, well, before, they were not thought about very much, well, for example, assault rifles there the boats we collect there and people carry money, transfer there, because the situation there has completely changed, that is, now we are, well, after the detonation, and now we, the military, clearly understand why the russians did it, and we have what we have, it absolutely will not stop our desire to... go to crimea, but it just takes more time and more effort, but nothing will be easy here, because it is the homeland, it is worth everything, thank you eder, let's take a short break now, after which we will add our online to the conversation guest, this will be andrii ryzhenko, captain of the first rank of the reserve, deputy chief of staff of the naval
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forces of the armed forces of ukraine. from 2004 to the 20th year, a person who is well-acquainted with the specifics of crimea, firstly, secondly, well-acquainted with the specifics, unfortunately, then of such, you know, coexistence, but not on the same territory, of the navy and the black sea fleet of the russian federation, eh, but at the same time we understand that this gives us - very specific data that we can use for our successful operations, now related to. specifically the black sea fleet and the surrounding sea as a whole crimea stay with us, we'll be back to the conversation in a few moments. i flew, flew, and the cough stopped me. cough is a symptom of a respiratory disease, so we treat it respiratoryly, we do inhalation. lord hyal is an inhalant for cough. and with the new ulivezer air plus, lorde gets right to the lungs and sputum.

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